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User:FalseAlias

2023-11-20T14:04:38Z

FalseAlias: Update.

I am FalseAlias.

I joined the [[boylove community]] on November 14th, 2015, and I have never regretted that decision.

I was an administrator at [[Boyland]] between December 21, 2017, and November 25, 2019.

I was a member of the [[Ethos]] team from December 2016 to April 2020. I was Editor on issue 2, Chief Editor from issues 3 to 6, Content Manager from issues 7 to 12, and Assistant Director in issue 12.

I was a Boyland Representative at [[BoyPlanet.net]] from February 2018 through to November 2019. In November 2019, I took on the role of BoyPlanet.net Technician following my resignation from Boyland. I retained this role until April 13, 2021, when I became BoyPlanet.net's Director. I resigned as Director and returned to the Technician role on November 20, 2021. I held this role until BoyPlanet.net shut down on August 8, 2023.

I am no longer active.

BoyPlanet

2023-08-10T08:02:06Z

FalseAlias: BoyChat post showing original closure notice.

'''BoyPlanet''' (other names: BoyPlanet.net, Boy Planet, BPN, BPn) was an [[online message board]] primarily for [[boylover]]s founded in November 2017. It was noted to have an almost identical landing page to [[BoyLover.net]].

Unlike traditional boards, BPN did not permit the use of emails at any point. Members who register could not enter in or utilise an email account. As a result of this both password recovery and username changes were not available to any board member, including staff.<ref>[https://boyplanet.net/bpn/index.php?action=register Registration Agreement] Retrieved on April 27, 2018</ref>

There were various forums in the main board for subjects of interest to boylovers, in addition to galleries. The site featured forums in several languages, including German and Spanish. There was also a small section of forums dedicated to [[girllover]]s, titled GirlPlanet (though this was removed due to lack of interest in late 2022).

While BoyPlanet shared a theme very similar to that of the now-defunct [[BoyLover.net]], the two sites are not associated with one another.

On August 10, at 1:14am U.K. time, it was announced via partner board Boyland that the site would not be returning.

==History==

The original BoyPlanet.net was created in 2009 as a space-themed boylove forum. It was short-lived and shut down within the year by its owner, who was using an unknown alias at the time.<ref name="interview_damien">[https://boyplanet.net/bpnmd/interview.php?with=Damien%202019-11 Interview with Damien > BPNMD]</ref>

In late 2017, BPN's founder recognised a need for another board in the community and decided to recreate his former site. In doing so, he decided to borrow the theme of BoyLover.net. It was proven to work, owing to BLN's success, and would be familiar for older community members. The new site started development on October 24, 2017, and was released to the public on December 1, 2017, after just over a month of development work by Damien, Underdog, and several other BPN staff members.<ref name="interview_damien /> Most of this period of time was spent setting up the forums and themes to closely match those of BLN, and removing all email functionality from the forum software.

BPN appeared on [[BoyLinks]] on December 31, 2017.

On March 9, 2018, BPN started hosting a status checker developed by FalseAlias for Ethos Magazine. Though initially developed for Ethos, in April 2020 Ethos discontinued its hosting of the status checker as the project was shut down.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> Ethos re-opened later in 2020, but no longer hosted a status checker.<ref name="revive">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Re: Ping Zoomzoom4 re ETHOS 2020-July-13 17:48:53, Monday] Retrived January 29, 2021. [http://web.archive.org/web/20210129174546/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Archived January 29, 2021]</ref> The status checker network currently consists of two status checkers, with the other hosted by [[boyland_on_line|boylandonline.com]].

In December 2018, BPN changed its minimum age requirement from 16 to 18.

On January 12, 2022, BPN was taken offline by the hosting provider. In response, Boyland hosted a status page for members of BPN to safely find updates on the site's downtime.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c1">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585224.htm BoyChat notice of BoyPlanet's downtime]</ref><ref name="downtime_2022_1_c2">[https://boylandonline.com/boyplanet/ Boyland's downtime status page for BoyPlanet]</ref> On January 25, it was confirmed that the hosting provider for the site had terminated the hosting account.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c3">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585958.htm BoyChat posting re. hosting status of BoyPlanet]</ref>

On February 5, BPN announced new hosting had been arranged though gave no information on when the site would reopen.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c4">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220208145150/https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet Site Index (via Web Archive 2022-02-08)]</ref>

On August 8, 2023, BPN went offline for unknown reasons. An initial investigation into this was started by the site's technician but was unable to find the source of the problem and escalated the matter to the site's host. The host did not respond. In the early hours of August 10 U.K. time, notice was posted at by Damien at Boyland informing that BPN was permanently closing and cited that the host had been seized under copyright law (DMCA). A copy of the notice was posted at BoyChat around 9am the same day<ref>[https://boychat.org/messages/1615867.htm BoyPlanet.net Closure (BoyChat post)]</ref>.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==

*[[BoyLover.net]]

==External links==

*[https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet's website]

[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Websites]]

BoyPlanet

2023-08-10T07:56:52Z

FalseAlias: BPN closure.

'''BoyPlanet''' (other names: BoyPlanet.net, Boy Planet, BPN, BPn) was an [[online message board]] primarily for [[boylover]]s founded in November 2017. It was noted to have an almost identical landing page to [[BoyLover.net]].

Unlike traditional boards, BPN did not permit the use of emails at any point. Members who register could not enter in or utilise an email account. As a result of this both password recovery and username changes were not available to any board member, including staff.<ref>[https://boyplanet.net/bpn/index.php?action=register Registration Agreement] Retrieved on April 27, 2018</ref>

There were various forums in the main board for subjects of interest to boylovers, in addition to galleries. The site featured forums in several languages, including German and Spanish. There was also a small section of forums dedicated to [[girllover]]s, titled GirlPlanet (though this was removed due to lack of interest in late 2022).

While BoyPlanet shared a theme very similar to that of the now-defunct [[BoyLover.net]], the two sites are not associated with one another.

On August 10, at 1:14am U.K. time, it was announced via partner board Boyland that the site would not be returning.

==History==

The original BoyPlanet.net was created in 2009 as a space-themed boylove forum. It was short-lived and shut down within the year by its owner, who was using an unknown alias at the time.<ref name="interview_damien">[https://boyplanet.net/bpnmd/interview.php?with=Damien%202019-11 Interview with Damien > BPNMD]</ref>

In late 2017, BPN's founder recognised a need for another board in the community and decided to recreate his former site. In doing so, he decided to borrow the theme of BoyLover.net. It was proven to work, owing to BLN's success, and would be familiar for older community members. The new site started development on October 24, 2017, and was released to the public on December 1, 2017, after just over a month of development work by Damien, Underdog, and several other BPN staff members.<ref name="interview_damien /> Most of this period of time was spent setting up the forums and themes to closely match those of BLN, and removing all email functionality from the forum software.

BPN appeared on [[BoyLinks]] on December 31, 2017.

On March 9, 2018, BPN started hosting a status checker developed by FalseAlias for Ethos Magazine. Though initially developed for Ethos, in April 2020 Ethos discontinued its hosting of the status checker as the project was shut down.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> Ethos re-opened later in 2020, but no longer hosted a status checker.<ref name="revive">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Re: Ping Zoomzoom4 re ETHOS 2020-July-13 17:48:53, Monday] Retrived January 29, 2021. [http://web.archive.org/web/20210129174546/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Archived January 29, 2021]</ref> The status checker network currently consists of two status checkers, with the other hosted by [[boyland_on_line|boylandonline.com]].

In December 2018, BPN changed its minimum age requirement from 16 to 18.

On January 12, 2022, BPN was taken offline by the hosting provider. In response, Boyland hosted a status page for members of BPN to safely find updates on the site's downtime.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c1">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585224.htm BoyChat notice of BoyPlanet's downtime]</ref><ref name="downtime_2022_1_c2">[https://boylandonline.com/boyplanet/ Boyland's downtime status page for BoyPlanet]</ref> On January 25, it was confirmed that the hosting provider for the site had terminated the hosting account.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c3">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585958.htm BoyChat posting re. hosting status of BoyPlanet]</ref>

On February 5, BPN announced new hosting had been arranged though gave no information on when the site would reopen.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c4">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220208145150/https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet Site Index (via Web Archive 2022-02-08)]</ref>

On August 8, 2023, BPN went offline for unknown reasons. An initial investigation into this was started by the site's technician but was unable to find the source of the problem and escalated the matter to the site's host. The host did not respond. In the early hours of August 10 U.K. time, notice was posted at by Damien at Boyland informing that BPN was permanently closing and cited that the host had been seized under copyright law (DMCA).

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==

*[[BoyLover.net]]

==External links==

*[https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet's website]

[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Blsafety.net (2018)

2022-07-07T18:05:48Z

FalseAlias: Small adjustments and a history update

'''blsafety.net''' (stylised as BLSAFETY.NET on-site) is a community resource oriented towards providing advice for [[boylover|boylovers]] seeking better security and privacy practices whilst abiding by laws of their local jurisdictions. There are very few places where boylovers can find lots of advice tailored to these subjects, and fewer where such advice is collated and organised in this manner.

This iteration of blsafety.net should not be confused with the former boylove forum [[BLSafetyNet]], which was in operation from late 2002 to early 2004. Though the sites use the same domain, blsafety.net makes note that it is distinctly separate.<ref>[https://blsafety.net/?questions#itsrtt22bbb Questions — BLSAFETY.NET], section "Is this site related to the 2002-2004 boylove board BLSafetyNet?"</ref>

During early 2022, blsafety.net encountered hosting problems and was relocated to a temporary area on Boyland's website. The site has been functioning on its normal domain since mid-March 2022.

==See also==
*[[BLSafetyNet]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
[https://blsafety.net/ BLSAFETY.NET]

[https://boylandonline.com/blsafety.net/ BLSAFETY.NET (hosted at Boyland)]

[[Category:Online history]]

BoyPlanet

2022-02-08T15:04:20Z

FalseAlias: Should indicate it's 2022

'''BoyPlanet''' (other names: BoyPlanet.net, Boy Planet, BPN, BPn) is an [[online message board]] primarily for [[boylover]]s founded in November 2017. It is noted to have an almost identical landing page to [[BoyLover.net]].

Unlike traditional boards, BPN does not permit the use of emails at any point. Members who register cannot enter in or utilise an email account. As a result of this both password recovery and username changes are not available to any board member, including staff.<ref>[https://boyplanet.net/bpn/index.php?action=register Registration Agreement] Retrieved on April 27, 2018</ref>

There are various forums in the main board for subjects of interest to boylovers, in addition to galleries. The site features forums in several languages, including German and Spanish. There is also a small section of forums dedicated to [[girllover]]s, titled GirlPlanet.

While BoyPlanet shares a theme identical to that of the now-defunct [[BoyLover.net]], the two sites are not associated with one another.

==History==

The original BoyPlanet was created in 2009 as a space-themed boylove forum. It was short-lived and shut down within the year by its owner, who was using an unknown alias at the time.<ref name="interview_damien">[https://boyplanet.net/bpnmd/interview.php?with=Damien%202019-11 Interview with Damien > BPNMD]</ref>

In late 2017, BPN's founder recognised a need for another board in the community and decided to recreate his former site. In doing so, he decided to borrow the theme of BoyLover.net. It was proven to work, owing to BLN's success, and would be familiar for older community members. The new site started development on October 24, 2017, and was released to the public on December 1, 2017, after just over a month of development work by Damien, Underdog, and several other BPN staff members.<ref name="interview_damien /> Most of this period of time was spent setting up the forums and themes to closely match those of BoyLover.net, and removing all email functionality from the forum software.

BPN appeared on [[BoyLinks]] on December 31, 2017.

On March 9, 2018, BPN started hosting a status checker developed by FalseAlias for Ethos Magazine. Though initially developed for Ethos, in April 2020 Ethos discontinued its hosting of the status checker as the project was shut down.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> Ethos re-opened later in 2020, but no longer hosted a status checker.<ref name="revive">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Re: Ping Zoomzoom4 re ETHOS 2020-July-13 17:48:53, Monday] Retrived January 29, 2021. [http://web.archive.org/web/20210129174546/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Archived January 29, 2021]</ref> The status checker network currently consists of two status checkers, with the other hosted by [[boyland_on_line|boylandonline.com]].

In December 2018, BPN changed its minimum age requirement from 16 to 18.

On January 12, 2022, BoyPlanet was taken offline by the hosting provider. In response, Boyland hosted a status page for members of BoyPlanet to safely find updates on the site's downtime.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c1">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585224.htm BoyChat notice of BoyPlanet's downtime]</ref><ref name="downtime_2022_1_c2">[https://boylandonline.com/boyplanet/ Boyland's downtime status page for BoyPlanet]</ref> On January 25, it was confirmed that the hosting provider for BoyPlanet has terminated the hosting account for the site.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c3">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585958.htm BoyChat posting re. hosting status of BoyPlanet]</ref>

On February 5, BoyPlanet announced new hosting had been arranged though gave no information on when the site would reopen.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c4">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220208145150/https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet Site Index (via Web Archive 2022-02-08)]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==

*[[BoyLover.net]]

==External links==

*[https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet's website]

[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Websites]]

BoyPlanet

2022-02-08T15:03:55Z

FalseAlias: update re. downtime

'''BoyPlanet''' (other names: BoyPlanet.net, Boy Planet, BPN, BPn) is an [[online message board]] primarily for [[boylover]]s founded in November 2017. It is noted to have an almost identical landing page to [[BoyLover.net]].

Unlike traditional boards, BPN does not permit the use of emails at any point. Members who register cannot enter in or utilise an email account. As a result of this both password recovery and username changes are not available to any board member, including staff.<ref>[https://boyplanet.net/bpn/index.php?action=register Registration Agreement] Retrieved on April 27, 2018</ref>

There are various forums in the main board for subjects of interest to boylovers, in addition to galleries. The site features forums in several languages, including German and Spanish. There is also a small section of forums dedicated to [[girllover]]s, titled GirlPlanet.

While BoyPlanet shares a theme identical to that of the now-defunct [[BoyLover.net]], the two sites are not associated with one another.

==History==

The original BoyPlanet was created in 2009 as a space-themed boylove forum. It was short-lived and shut down within the year by its owner, who was using an unknown alias at the time.<ref name="interview_damien">[https://boyplanet.net/bpnmd/interview.php?with=Damien%202019-11 Interview with Damien > BPNMD]</ref>

In late 2017, BPN's founder recognised a need for another board in the community and decided to recreate his former site. In doing so, he decided to borrow the theme of BoyLover.net. It was proven to work, owing to BLN's success, and would be familiar for older community members. The new site started development on October 24, 2017, and was released to the public on December 1, 2017, after just over a month of development work by Damien, Underdog, and several other BPN staff members.<ref name="interview_damien /> Most of this period of time was spent setting up the forums and themes to closely match those of BoyLover.net, and removing all email functionality from the forum software.

BPN appeared on [[BoyLinks]] on December 31, 2017.

On March 9, 2018, BPN started hosting a status checker developed by FalseAlias for Ethos Magazine. Though initially developed for Ethos, in April 2020 Ethos discontinued its hosting of the status checker as the project was shut down.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> Ethos re-opened later in 2020, but no longer hosted a status checker.<ref name="revive">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Re: Ping Zoomzoom4 re ETHOS 2020-July-13 17:48:53, Monday] Retrived January 29, 2021. [http://web.archive.org/web/20210129174546/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Archived January 29, 2021]</ref> The status checker network currently consists of two status checkers, with the other hosted by [[boyland_on_line|boylandonline.com]].

In December 2018, BPN changed its minimum age requirement from 16 to 18.

On January 12, BoyPlanet was taken offline by the hosting provider. In response, Boyland hosted a status page for members of BoyPlanet to safely find updates on the site's downtime.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c1">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585224.htm BoyChat notice of BoyPlanet's downtime]</ref><ref name="downtime_2022_1_c2">[https://boylandonline.com/boyplanet/ Boyland's downtime status page for BoyPlanet]</ref> On January 25, it was confirmed that the hosting provider for BoyPlanet has terminated the hosting account for the site.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c3">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585958.htm BoyChat posting re. hosting status of BoyPlanet]</ref>

On February 5, BoyPlanet announced new hosting had been arranged though gave no information on when the site would reopen.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c4">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220208145150/https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet Site Index (via Web Archive 2022-02-08)]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==

*[[BoyLover.net]]

==External links==

*[https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet's website]

[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Websites]]

BoyPlanet

2022-01-25T03:03:11Z

FalseAlias: Downtime starting Jan 12

'''BoyPlanet''' (other names: BoyPlanet.net, Boy Planet, BPN, BPn) is an [[online message board]] primarily for [[boylover]]s founded in November 2017. It is noted to have an almost identical landing page to [[BoyLover.net]].

Unlike traditional boards, BPN does not permit the use of emails at any point. Members who register cannot enter in or utilise an email account. As a result of this both password recovery and username changes are not available to any board member, including staff.<ref>[https://boyplanet.net/bpn/index.php?action=register Registration Agreement] Retrieved on April 27, 2018</ref>

There are various forums in the main board for subjects of interest to boylovers, in addition to galleries. The site features forums in several languages, including German and Spanish. There is also a small section of forums dedicated to [[girllover]]s, titled GirlPlanet.

While BoyPlanet shares a theme identical to that of the now-defunct [[BoyLover.net]], the two sites are not associated with one another.

==History==

The original BoyPlanet was created in 2009 as a space-themed boylove forum. It was short-lived and shut down within the year by its owner, who was using an unknown alias at the time.<ref name="interview_damien">[https://boyplanet.net/bpnmd/interview.php?with=Damien%202019-11 Interview with Damien > BPNMD]</ref>

In late 2017, BPN's founder recognised a need for another board in the community and decided to recreate his former site. In doing so, he decided to borrow the theme of BoyLover.net. It was proven to work, owing to BLN's success, and would be familiar for older community members. The new site started development on October 24, 2017, and was released to the public on December 1, 2017, after just over a month of development work by Damien, Underdog, and several other BPN staff members.<ref name="interview_damien /> Most of this period of time was spent setting up the forums and themes to closely match those of BoyLover.net, and removing all email functionality from the forum software.

BPN appeared on [[BoyLinks]] on December 31, 2017.

On March 9, 2018, BPN started hosting a status checker developed by FalseAlias for Ethos Magazine. Though initially developed for Ethos, in April 2020 Ethos discontinued its hosting of the status checker as the project was shut down.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> Ethos re-opened later in 2020, but no longer hosted a status checker.<ref name="revive">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Re: Ping Zoomzoom4 re ETHOS 2020-July-13 17:48:53, Monday] Retrived January 29, 2021. [http://web.archive.org/web/20210129174546/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Archived January 29, 2021]</ref> The status checker network currently consists of two status checkers, with the other hosted by [[boyland_on_line|boylandonline.com]].

In December 2018, BPN changed its minimum age requirement from 16 to 18.

On January 12, BoyPlanet was taken offline by the hosting provider. In response, Boyland hosted a status page for members of BoyPlanet to safely find updates on the site's downtime.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c1">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585224.htm BoyChat notice of BoyPlanet's downtime]</ref><ref name="downtime_2022_1_c2">[https://boylandonline.com/boyplanet/ Boyland's downtime status page for BoyPlanet]</ref> On January 25, it was confirmed that the hosting provider for BoyPlanet has terminated the hosting account for the site.<ref name="downtime_2022_1_c3">[https://boychat.org/messages/1585958.htm BoyChat posting re. hosting status of BoyPlanet]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==

*[[BoyLover.net]]

==External links==

*[https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet's website]

[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Websites]]

User talk:Dandelion

2021-11-23T02:09:50Z

FalseAlias: /* A quick apology re. requested edits */ new section

'''Welcome to ''BoyWiki''!'''
We hope you will contribute much and well.
You will probably want to read the [[:Category:Help|help pages]].
Again, welcome and have fun! [[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 02:08, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

==Images==
Dandelion would you like to be the person to work on uploading images? I just can't seem to get to it. If so, I will explain what you need to do. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 13:30, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

: I would be glad to help. However, if other users are going to contact me, I'll need a BoyWiki email address, as I would prefer not to use a personal account. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 19:07, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
::I have changed you status so you can upload images. Free Spirits email is a bit wonky right now and I prefer to use the internal system for requesting image uploads. [[BoyWiki:Requests for file uploads]]--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 14:12, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
::: Thank you very much. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 20:00, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
:::: Quick note: When you upload an image, please try to indicate how the picture is licensed or if it is in the public domain ( something that indicates that it is free to use). You should also try to indicate the author if known, so they are credited for their work. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 20:18, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
::::: Understood. Thanks for the advice. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 00:00, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

== BLSB ==

What does that mean? Thanks. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 02:49, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
: I think it's Boylove Sourcebook (see [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Boylove_Sourcebook https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Boylove_Sourcebook]) [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 03:39, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
:: Indeed. The acronym was added to the titles of the pages in that category in order to distinguish them from regular wiki articles, since their format and type of content are different. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 21:52, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

== Request for image upload ==

Hi Dandelion, I wrote a message to Etenne a couple of days ago but I'm not sure if he still visits here, so I thought to ask you, since you have permission to upload images. I'd like to add a picture of this podcast's logo to this article: [[https://www.boywiki.org/en/MAPs_irl MAPs irl]].

[[User:Hikari-again|Hikari-again]] ([[User talk:Hikari-again|talk]]) 04:37, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:Hello, Hikari. Is there a URL for the image? [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 19:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

::Dandelion, not sure if [https://ton.twitter.com/i/ton/data/dm/1157169031670976516/1157169025123680256/3bq61Yul.jpg:medium this link] will work but if not I can email it to you. [[User:Hikari-again|Hikari-again]] ([[User talk:Hikari-again|talk]]) 06:06, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
:::I checked the Twitter account for the podcast. Is [https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1085257494530789381/J7wJfGYu.jpg this picture] OK? [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 22:51, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
::::Yup, that works. [[User:Hikari-again|Hikari-again]] ([[User talk:Hikari-again|talk]]) 05:56, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
:::::[https://boywiki.org/media/File:MAPs_irl_Podcast_logo.jpg Done]. Sorry for the delay. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 00:54, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
::::::Thank you, no problem! [[User:Hikari-again|Hikari-again]] ([[User talk:Hikari-again|talk]]) 23:16, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

== Anglosphere ==

Hey Dandelion, do we have any more info about the [[anglosphere]], the non-[[anglosphere]], and the differences between them that are relevant to boylove and boylovers, and the reasons why they are the way they are, with regard to those topics? Currently there's not a lot of info in those articles, but it seems like I've read more about it elsewhere, I just can't remember where. Thanks, [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 20:54, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, Lysander. Sorry for the late reply, I had a problem with my computer. I recommend that you seek advice from BoyChat users who may be acquainted with the relevant literature. Edmund, Kit, Filip30, Sick Rose, Shy Guy and Pharmakon are some names that come to mind. Hopefully they can provide you with the titles of articles and books, if not with links or quotations. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 06:18, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'm banned from BoyChat so I guess that won't be happening. Seems someone did write an article awhile ago on this topic, though. Oh well. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 12:03, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Much appreciate the texts and links on Islamic boys. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 23:48, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:Hello, Wanker. I'm glad that you found those posts interesting. The credit for digging up the recent couple of texts (as well as several others that I repost here), goes to Edmund and his website [https://greek-love.com/|Greek Love Through the Ages], an excellent source of information on the history of pederasty. Have a nice day. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 06:42, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

== could you help me understand how i should use this wiki and discuss a project with me? ==

it seems like you're the only active user. hopefully i can change that and you'll be only half of the active users :p

if you're willing to, add me on discord (halos#7621) or wickr (cliscute).

the project is copying the research pages from newgon.net (formerly newgon.com) so that i can expand on them here, as newgon is just an archive now. https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Research
:Nice to meet you, Halos, and welcome to BoyWiki. Sorry for not replying sooner, but I'm currently taking a little break from editing (at least until I find new content to post). In order to get acquainted with the site and its format, I recommend that you take a look at the articles in https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Help, particularly https://www.boywiki.org/en/Help:Editing_BoyWiki_101.

:Etenne comes here sporadically to create accounts for new users and to delete pages, but contacting him through BoyWiki or email is difficult, so you probably won't interact much with him. However, there is more frequent activity from other posters, such as FalseAlias, who may provide you with help or advice.

:Your project seems like a good addition. Personally, when I edit or create pages that are different in content from normal "wiki-style" articles, such as essays and reviews, I make new, distinct categories, with names such as "Boylove Essays" or "Boylove Reviews", and add the names of those categories between parentheses at the beginning of the titles of the pages, like in the articles here https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Boylove_Book_Reviews. In this case, perhaps you could create the category of "Boylove Research Compilations" or something similar, and keep the titles of the original pages from Newgon.

:Please, let me know what you think of the idea. Best wishes. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 12:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

::i think that's a great idea uwu. i'll do that. thanks for the advice - [[User:halos|halos]]

==Pictures==
I take it the stuff in the delete folder is stuff you want deleted? Just making sure.
[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 01:47, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
:Hi, Etenne. Yes, I would appreciate it if you could delete them. Sorry for the trouble. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 08:02, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

== Boylove Documentary Sourcebook ==

I added some links to this to the category header and to the main page under Content listings and gave you a neat little graphic that you can use for identifying your pages if you want. Can you tell me more about what you goal is and how to describe what you are working on? Maybe in the future you could create a Portal for this category? [[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 20:43, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
:Hello, Etenne. I'm very flattered by the changes. The graphic is lovely, and I feel that the picture of the medieval scribe, a figure associated with the preservation and spread of knowledge, represents quite well the purpose intended for the category: to provide visitors of BoyWiki with easy access to the relevant portions of the literature available in English, in a way as substantial, concise and objective as possible.

:My hope is that through the excerpts in the sourcebook, boylovers, especially those who have just realized their attraction and are in need of guidance (since contemporary society and media, in their far-reaching and demoralizing hostility, scarcely allow the presence of even neutral boylove portrayals, not to mention positive role models), get at least a "snapshot", a preliminary sense of the history of boylove across the world, of its place in the spectrum of human sexuality, and of boylovers' social, cultural and artistic contributions. Edmund has undertaken a similar project on a much bigger scale with his website Greek Love Through the Ages, which is a main source of inspiration for the category.

:These pages are my grain of sand in BoyWiki, a token of gratitude to it, as one of the first websites that I found when first researching the topic of boylove, and hopefully it will also help to increase the number of its readers and editors among the new generation. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 04:17, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

== Upgraded right ==

I changed your user rights today so now you should have the ability to remove your unwanted redirects etc... let me know if it works.[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 12:50, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
:Thank you very much, Etenne. I really appreciate your trust in me.
:I'm well aware of the hassle entailed in dealing with all the traces left by my bouts of OCD, so this new upgrade makes things convenient for both of us. Hopefully it will lighten some of your workload as an administrator.
:I've yet to find the delete button, though. In what part of the page should it appear? [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 09:20, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

::Under page tools on the sidebar it should say:
Page tools
Delete
Move

[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 13:15, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
:::Hi, Etenne. The "delete" option doesn't show to me. The sidebar just has the "move" option. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 21:17, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Now you should for sure.
[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 21:27, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
:::Yes, I can already see it. Thank you. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 21:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

== A quick apology re. requested edits ==

Hi Dandelion,

I recognise you'd requested I perform some activities earlier in the year and that I didn't do them. Though it does not necessarily excuse my inaction, much of my time had become occupied by things both elsewhere in the boylove community and off-board in my personal life. To a degree, it still is. I should have made some time to assist you per the request made, and I apologise for not doing so.

I hope you're well. Stay safe.

[[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 02:09, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

User:FalseAlias

2021-11-20T00:19:23Z

FalseAlias:

User:FalseAlias

2021-04-13T14:50:39Z

FalseAlias:

User:FalseAlias

2021-03-14T18:31:54Z

FalseAlias:

BoyLover.net

2021-03-01T06:08:33Z

FalseAlias: Minor correction regarding details of BLN server seizure. It was never raided by FBI due to jurisdiction. Other touchups too.

'''BoyLover.net''' (other names: BLN, BLn, bl.net) was one of the world's largest online [[Boylove community|boylover communities]], and was the largest [[online message board]] for [[boylover]]s. It was started in 2002, and shut down when the server was seized as part of Operation Rescue in 2009.

Note: As of January 2021, the Wayback Machine has blacklisted searches for the boylover.net domain. Previously, these sources were accurate and displayed content accurate to what is being cited by each link.

==History==
BLN was started and run by LostBoy for its lifespan, starting on May 1, 2002, and ending November 25, 2009. Within a few months of its initial creation, the site underwent a major redesign and restructure after it "became a battle zone for interpersonal flaming, insult, and damage."<ref name="lf2009">[http://web.archive.org/web/20090514050607/http://www.boylover.net:80/reference/index.php?page=our-look-and-feel BL.net: The Reference Shelves - Our Look and Feel (Internet Archive, 2009-05-14 05:06:07)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref> The redesign gave the board a friendlier feel and allowed it to better progress into a supportive environment. Language-specific forums, as well as a room for under 18s, were features of the site.

On July 27, 2003, BLN established BoyLoverLinks.net as a "worldwide directory for the internet boylove community."<ref name="hist2009">[http://web.archive.org/web/20090514050637/http://www.boylover.net:80/reference/index.php?page=the-board-s-history BL.net: The Reference Shelves - The Board's History (Internet Archive, 2009-05-14 @ 05:06:37)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref>

===Server transfer, tech issues, and FBI seizure===

Somewhere in 2004, the BLN server was transferred from one location to another resulting in minor downtime. During this time an IP address was provided for users to visit the board with.<ref name="2004_001">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041114041452/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-11-14 @ 04:14:52)] Accessed November 23, 2018.</ref> The reason for the server relocation is unknown.

On November 18, one of the BLN hard drives powering the site failed resulting in unexpected downtime. The IP address that previously granted access was disabled and the site, as well as BoyLoverLinks.net, both went offline. Emails were also unable to be sent to either BLN or BoyLoverLinks, and LostBoy provided a gmail address. During the incident, it was stressed that no data was lost due to the failure. <ref name="2004_002">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041119021654/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-11-19 @ 02:16:54)] Accessed November 23, 2018.</ref>

Between November 18 and December 2, the FBI seized the server hosting BoyLover.net and BoyLoverLinks.net as part of an investigation into the websites regarding their legality. BLN Relations Admin Joecool4218 had informed users via [[BoyChat]] that BLN had been taken offline due to a pending FBI investigation in response to a comment by another BoyChat poster.<ref name="fbi_2004_01">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041119021654/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-11-19 @ 02:16:54] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref><ref name="fbi_2004_02">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041212053514/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-12-12 @ 05:35:14)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref><ref name="fbi2004_03">[https://www.boychat.org/bcd/2004/878548.htm BC Digest - Re: Boylover.net servers seized by FBI (December 2, 2004, Joecool4218)] Accessed November 10, 2018.</ref> At the time of the seizure, the site had 15,000 registered users.<ref name="fbi2004_04">[https://www.boychat.org/bcd/2004/879737.htm BC Digest - BLnet and Individual Tragedies Lead to Progress? (December 6, 2004, Curtis)] Accessed November 10, 2018.</ref> BLN was back online by mid-January 2005 with user data allegedly not compromised. Two weeks of data was lost due to the sudden nature of the incident.<ref name="fbi2004_05">[http://web.archive.org/web/20050120024829/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2005-01-20 @ 02:48:29)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref>

===Site shutdown===
''Main article: [[Operation Rescue]]''

On November 25, 2009, a complex international investigation being run by Europol seized the BoyLover.net server and arrested some of the site's senior members of staff. Joecool4218 and JagDawg were arrested by ICE, and LostBoy was arrested by Dutch police. In New Zealand Loren was also raided but was never arrested. [[BoyZoom]], Loren's site, was temporarily closed while his access was removed, but the board announced permanent closure on December 1.<ref name="fbi2009_01">[http://web.archive.org/web/20091212191232/https://www.northfulton.com/articles-c-2009-12-07-181049.114126-sub_international_child_porn_ring_tied_to_roswell_cumming.html International child porn ring tied to Roswell, Cumming (Internet Archive, 2009-12-12 @ 19:12:32] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref><ref name="bz_2009_01">[https://secure.boychat.org/messages/1190351.htm I got this news from the BZ... (BoyChat) 2009-11-25 19:38:56 EST] Accessed December 1, 2018.</ref><ref name="bz_2009_02">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1191168.htm Re: B/Z down to? (BoyChat) - 2009-12-1 12:00:46 EST] Accessed December 1, 2018.</ref>

On March 2011, a press conference held by Europol following the conviction of LostBoy provided details of the three-year investigation named Operation Rescue. It was announced that there were 184 arrests and 670 suspects were identified and investigated. They also stated that, at the time of the conference, 4202 intelligence reports had been distributed to over 30 countries.<ref name="europol1">[https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/europol-in-action/operations/operation-rescue Operation Rescue | Europol] Accessed December 1, 2018.</ref>

==Features==
BLN was run through the Ultimate Bulletin Board software and had forums for a variety of languages including Spanish, Dutch, Russian, and Hungarian. There were also various forums for entertainment threads and pictures or videos in addition to literature forums and an area specifically for members under 18 years of age (where those over 16 were not permitted). In December 2005, the most popular forums were The Porch and The Entry, with The Poolside following in third. Of the foreign forums, Das Deutsche Zimmer and El Caurto Hispano were the two most popular with 91212 and 79998 posts respectively.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20051206004603/http://www.boylover.net:80/ubb/ultimatebb.php BoyLover.net (Internet Archive, 2005-12-03 @ 00:46:03)] Accessed November 10, 2018.</ref>

Site design heavily featured: large, illustrative photographs; strong use of bright colors; and a multitude of icons. Color scheme was occasionally transformed, in recognition of significant or tragic events, to a monochromatic theme.{{cite}}

Members were categorized according to their post count, with a member starting as "New Kid" and eventually becoming "Elder Brother" at 5000 posts. While this made it simple to tell oldtimers from newbies, it often led to members posting playfully in order to increase their post count, and hence their status.<ref name="ranks2009">[http://web.archive.org/web/20090514050642/http://www.boylover.net:80/reference/index.php?page=the-membership-journey BL.net: The Reference Shelves - The Membership Journey (Internet Archive, 2009-05-14 @ 05:06:42] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref>

Site management was highly organized, and a team of Buddies were responsible for welcoming and guiding new members of the community. Highly respected members were sometimes named Mentors. Only one member, Friend, had been named Mentor.{{cite}}

The site also featured a free online magazine called [[Modern Boylover Magazine]] which started in 2006. The latest issue of MBM was published in December 2015.

==Security==
BoyLover.net's rules and guidelines were intended to safeguard the site's legality according to [[United States]] law. A complex, three-tiered organization of nearly 100 volunteers served users of the site and enforced site policy.

Site administrators were been criticized for taking a cavalier attitude toward security problems.{{cite}}

Some portals had warned against BoyLover.net on grounds that the site allowed off-site image links, making [[IP harvesting]] relatively simple. Due to this, visitors were advised to turn off images when loading BoyLover.net forums if they are worried about their surfing habits being analyzed by unknown and potentially hostile parties.{{cite}}

BoyLover.net's privacy policy was visually lengthy, and within that it was clearly stated that they collected IP addresses. Further, it was stated that they (BoyLover.net administration) would share personal information of members to comply with law enforcement or to protect the board. At the time, this was intended as a protection measure to ensure the site remains online and functioning within the law, and these practices were used out of necessity rather than of choice.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090907171206/http://www.boylover.net/info/privacy.php BoyLover.net Privacy Statement (Internet Archive, 2009-09-07 @ 17:12:06)] Accessed June 13, 2018</ref>

==Mission statement==
The following was taken from BoyLover.net's home page:

:BoyLover.net provides a safe, supportive, and legal environment where boylovers, boys, and others interested in boylove can share thoughts, opinions, feelings, and experiences. Its forums are online meeting places where questions, advice, and debate take place freely in an atmosphere of comfort and mutual respect, and where educational material and information about boylove can be shared.

==References==
{{reflist}}
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Online history]]

User talk:FalseAlias

2021-02-19T16:50:52Z

FalseAlias: /* A request to make some edits in my stead */

'''Welcome to ''BoyWiki''!'''
We hope you will contribute much and well.
You will probably want to read the [[:Category:Help|help pages]].
Again, welcome and have fun! [[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 20:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

== Why I am leaving Boywiki for good ==

Hello, FalseAlias. First of all, I may have prejudged Boywiki. I don't really see anything that condones adult-child sexual activity. Boywiki is fine the way it is. Don't take any of what I am about to say personally, I have nothing against the people who edit here. One of the reasons that I am leaving Boywiki is that I don't personally agree with the political beliefs dominant on Boywiki. I am sorry. The second reason is that I don't want to associate myself with any political movement or controversial opinions online. I also don't want to do anything that would possibly make people suspicious of me and I '''don't''' want to '''look like''' I am working against the law, or for people to think or accuse me of doing unlawful activities, even if it's '''not true'''. '''I have always fully supported the law 100% and I will always follow and obey the law completely, no mater what.''', So I don,"t want any reason for people to think otherwise. I originally signed up to Boywiki to help contribute to Wikis with diverse viewpoints. I didn't realize that it could be unsafe for me to do so, So for this reason, I would like to leave Boywiki permanently. I am very sorry.
:It's okay to choose to leave, and I'm not going to object to your ability to decide whether or not you wish to be a member. The only reason I questioned your decision is because it looked like you were leaving because you felt content was biased and electing to leave rather than to try fix the issue. To be clear, I didn't take any of this personally either. It was strange for me to read that you were choosing to leave while also having the power to fix what appeared (at the time of my reading) to be wrong.
:That said, I do still wish to know what on BoyWiki (in your opinion) suggests that BoyWiki contributes towards a political movement or what might make people view you as a person who works against the law. If there is Wiki content which might appear to advocate for changes in existing laws those pieces should be edited (though I must state that there is a difference between the articles some users submit and the Wiki articles, which are to remain unbiased and objective in nature). I've no doubt that there are some parts of the wiki which were left with biased opinions or non-objective views (some of which I patched, but still many more to go), and I'll do my best to patch those as and when I find them. Pointers will be super helpful. If it's wiki content, and if I have that ability, I'll rewrite what's necessary to make it objective and non-advocative.
: I understand your decision entirely, and completely respect it. While I think that contributing is safe, I understand how it could misrepresent a person by association. I don't have any ability to do anything with your account, that'll be something that Etenne has to do, but I understand and respect your decision. If you can help towards de-biasing Wiki articles before you go, that'll be extremely useful too (even if that's just pointing us to where edits need to be made). [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for understanding. By the way, my views fall more onto the line of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] which are: '''"Sexual activity between an adult and a child is always wrong"''', and I '''"oppose legalizing adult/child sexual activity or making it in any way more accepted"''', though I am '''not''' a pedophile myself. '''These are my beliefs, which I will always have'''. I also support what organizations like the American Psychological Association, have to say about pedophilia. It would be good to include the views of Non-Contact Minor Attracted Persons (NOMAPS) such as the views of this group to some of your articles, as well as pedophiles who view pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder and believe they need to be treated for it, so maybe their views could be represented on Boywiki, If you agree with that. I think that your article on [[pedophilia]] is well-balanced and scientific, though [[Wikipedia]]'s article is a great guideline ( see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia). Also, I would like to know if going on to, making an account, and contributing to Boywiki is legal Outside of the U.S. (eg. Canada). [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:38, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
::: I've no idea whether or not BoyWiki and/or contributing to it represents any legal issues in Canada. I think that depends largely on exactly what you contribute and for what purpose the contribution is being used for (as might be the case in most places). I wish I could say I was a legal expert but I am quite far from it. I try to know what I need to about what is and is not okay in the most common countries that boylovers originate from.
::: To address the line regarding content nature: I don't disagree with your views as much as you think. Personally, I don't believe all sexual contact between adult and children is harmful, but that is different to whether or not it is right or wrong. I think it's less up to the adult in those situations, that it is solely the child's choice only if they have all the information necessary to make a decision, but that's my personal opinion. I do, however, oppose any sort of legalisation or normalisation of sexual contact between adults and children without substantial research performed with large sample sizes evidencing that there are considerably more positive benefits from the contact than there are negative. To me, the notion that it should be normal in today's society is silly and unfounded in its entirety, and to make such a claim without having unbiased research to support such claims would be the demise of such a person socially, and potentially legally in some places.
::: With the above said, a wiki such as this is for the representation of known factual information (except for personal articles, which differ visually from primary wiki content so far as I am aware). If wiki content leans towards a particular viewpoint or unfairly represents factual information to bias it towards any view whether for or against contact, that content must be edited so that it is objective and presents only the factual information known to be correct (ideally this information can be cited, unless it does not need to be). If you want to direct me to wiki content that is in desperate need of revisions regarding objectivity, I will do my best to rework it so that it is objective and not attempting to advocate for anything other than understanding. I think that if opinions are represented in articles, the opinions on all sides need to be shown and not just the side we happen to relate the most to.
::: If it is of any help, we may be able to get in contact with one another external to here in which you pass me information on content which you feel needs editing for objectivity purposes or to remove biases, and I make those edits to the best of my ability thereby leaving your name out of things entirely. The contributions would be listed as mine, and since our communications would be private and encrypted you can remain safe knowing that both 1. I won't violate your right to privacy, and 2. your name will not come up as the author of an edit, keeping your name "clean". [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:39, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
::::O.K. Thank you very much for offering, but I am not comfortable in doing this. I made some changes to the article for Virtious Pedophiles. Please let me know what you think of it. ''In regards to your statement, "I don't believe all sexual contact between adult and children is harmful." you would '''never''' actually physically engage in sexual contact with children yourself, right? You were just '''stating your personal beliefs''' and '''never''' touched a child. By the way, I '''don't''' want you to think I am accusing you of doing anything wrong, which I am '''not'''.'' To clarify, in regards to Boywiki, the fact that it included views that state that adult-child romantic feelings towards children by adults is O.K. and normal, rather than inappropriate( which I think, '''make it seem ok to engage in inappropriate sexual behaviour'''), or saying that the age of consent should be lowered or abolished (the two views that I '''strongly oppose'''), made me '''falsely''' think in then past that Boywiki promoted or said these things are O.K., which I thought, meant that Boywiki thought inappropriate adult-child sex was o.k., which it doesn't, although '''"is holding the view that adult-child sex as o.k. or any form of Pedophile Advocacy legal in Canada?''' . Other than that, as a pointer, it would be good to include the opinions of Non-Offending Pedophiles (NOMAPS), '''who's views I strongly support''', and explain their point-of-view on Boywiki maybe. I '''strongly oppose''' groups like NAMBLA for their beliefs. Unrelated, I also wanted to say that I '''oppose''' attempts and arguments to lower the age of consent or to normalize Adult-Child '''romantic''' relationships (NOT sexual in nature), and I view pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder (like Bipolar disorder or OCD) as opposed to a sexual orientation. I am sorry. I also strongly believe that children can '''never''' give consent to romantic or sexual relationships and they can '''never''' give appropriate consent and it would be '''wrong and immoral''' to state or convince people otherwise, as well as '''all''' forms of sexual activity with children cause them '''harm'''. '''I have always believed these things.''' I'm sorry, but I now choose to no longer contribute to Boywiki. Thank you for your '''understanding''' that you shared me. Please let [[Etenne]] know this as well. Lister34 (talk) 23:47, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::To clarify your italics paragraph: At present, I would not engage in any type of sexual conduct with a child. This would put myself at risk, in addition to potentially ruining that person's life and the various lives of people I know and trust both online and offline. My personal belief is only that it is not inherently harmful for a child to be sexually active with themselves, with another child, or with an adult. I acknowledge that it can be harmful, but I don't believe that it is always harmful. That's simply a belief. Nothing more.
:::::For the pointers: I'd do better with article names, because BoyWiki has a lot of content on many subjects and I can only guess on search terms and hope I come across what you're talking about. I did some going through things yesterday (mostly by the Random Page button) looking for things that might be non-objective or may only contain views from one side and not the other. I didn't find too much but I did come across some pages that I feel need deletion or various revisions. I don't mind if you don't want to point out what specific parts of the article need changing, or for what reason(s). I'll probably find those out myself anyway after enough staring at it. Specific article names/links would go pretty far in at least starting the process. Your choice in that though. I'll still be going over things by pressing Random Page for a while yet.
:::::Don't apologize for your beliefs. It's okay to have different beliefs, and I'm not going to crucify you for disagreeing with me. I respect that your views are different than mine, and I'm fairly confident that I would understand your beliefs if I knew the reasons behind them, but I don't need to know those reasons in order to respect your beliefs. I recognise too that your beliefs are why you are leaving, and that is okay. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:42, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::O.K. Thank you very much for understanding. I respect your beliefs as well. I don't need to know the reasons behind your beliefs in order to respect them, either. Here is the link to the [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] page that I worked on. Also, I believe that any kind of inappropriate sexual contact with a child will always be "child sexual abuse" and I would '''never''' touch a child in an inappropriate way or anything else to mentally harm a child. I could help you make Boywiki more neutral before I go, but personally, I don't feel comfortable editing or having an account on Boywiki because of the risks involved. I am sorry, but I feel that I should part ways with Boywiki. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 21:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

== Articles I plan on doing something with ==

I've decided I'd be better making a list here of articles I feel need a clean-up of some description. Some may: contain blatantly false claims, make claims without sufficient citations, are not objective, or otherwise need revisions to bring it in-line with what is expected on a wiki such as this. Note: I only briefly looked at each article. I did not go through everything in the article. I will do that when I get to revising the articles.

*https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyLover_child-abuse_narrative - Various claims without citations, some non-objectivity.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Misconceptions_about_pedophiles%27_sexual_activities_with_young_people Language cleanup. Maybe other.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Anal_intercourse Some cite errors.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mental_disorder Objectivity.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sex_offender I think this whole article needs a fairly big rewrite.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sexually_violent_predator As above. Better definition needed.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Juvenile_sex_offender Needs some revisions. The article is extremely small, and should be labelled as a fledgling.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Ronan_Parke Debating whether this needs objectivity edits or not.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Indecent Some expansion perhaps.

*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Consent Imo, needs a rewrite. Consent is a deeper subject than two paragraphs.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Objectify Uncited claims regarding objectification. Imo needs an objectivity rewrite. How ironic.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Betrayal_of_trust Objectivity, and structure. The opening few paragraphs aren't particularly fact-based, and what claims are made are not supported.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sex I've no idea what this article is supposed to be. It needs a rewrite.

Additional useful link(s) (not on the to-edit list): https://www.boywiki.org/en/Help:Editing_BoyWiki_101

Didn't realise there was a category for this. https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Articles_requiring_cleanup

Maybe I should be using that.

Other things for me to look at if/when I get time: https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Fledglings

This list will be edited in future. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 02:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

== Why I stated my beliefs and an apology ==

::O.K. Sorry for preaching. I have nothing against Boywiki or any of it's users. Please disregard what I said earlier about trolls and sorry if that alarmed anyone. It was just me being overly cautious. Please forgive me. '''I respect your beliefs just as much as my own, even if I don't agree with them.''' [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Imo, you've nothing to be forgiven for. You were stating beliefs, and that isn't a crime. I was only slightly annoyed because you were rather excessively persistent about stating them in almost every message (at which point, I thought "I know this now, why do you keep saying it?"). I can understand ones desire to distance themselves from us especially if they don't share any paedophilic/hebephilic/ephebophilic desires. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 12:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
::::O.K. Thank you for understanding. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 23:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

==Thank you for forgiving me==

Thank you for forgiving me. Sorry again for my past behavior. I won't do that again. I respect your beliefs as much as my own, even if I don't personally agree with them. I would like to leave here on good terms and not upset anyone. Goodbye. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 22:37, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

== Just one more thing. ==

To clarify, when I say that I respect your beliefs, I understand your feelings behind them, but for me, I ''value people more than I value beliefs and ideas''. Beliefs can be imperfect and in error, but ''people mean everything''. I don't mean to be disrespectful by saying this and if it seems like I am, please let me know. ''With my above statement in mind, I don't support all beliefs and ideas, but I value those who believe in those ideas as human beings apart from their beliefs. ''Ultimately, even if I were not to respect one's beliefs, '''I still respect that person in that I value the one who holds those beliefs as a human being ''separate'' from their beliefs. I have always believed this, and I always will.''' And I am sorry to say this, but I can't respect the beliefs that you stated earlier, while '''I respect you in that I value you as a human being apart from your beliefs'''. I just wanted to say this before I finally leave for good.[[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:39, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
:I think this had been cleared up already. Most people are aware that respecting a person isn't synonymous with respecting their beliefs. People respect Trump for following through with some of his policies, but they still disagree with the policy itself.
:I had prepared a different response but you have since modified your wording, thus rendering most of my response meaningless.
:[[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 15:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

::O.K. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that most people thought that respecting a person isn't the same as respecting their beliefs. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 15:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

== About the content of Boywiki ==

When I stated, "I don't really see anything that condones adult-child sexual activity" in my earlier post, the material here can create an atmosphere that makes people more likely to offend, since many of the articles share the view that adult-child sexual activities are not always harmful. This isn't true, I am sorry to say this. I don't want to have anything remotely to do with this viewpoint. That's why I want to have nothing to do with Boywiki. I just wanted to clarify myself. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
:This view is incorrect. The material here does not make people more likely to offend at all. No one is going to go out and have sex with a minor, and when questioned say "I read on BoyWiki that it's not always harmful so I thought I'd give it a go." People aren't that stupid, and your belief that they are is quite frankly offensive to every BL who has self-control. The content here is primarily factual, and your choosing not to believe them is a display of not being open-minded. There is a study out of Switzerland that concluded the use of child pornography does not encourage contact-offences ([https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-9-43 Source]). I suggest you read it and then re-evaluate how the content here could make people more likely to offend when child pornography doesn't.
:You have had since October to discontinue logging in, when you first stated your intentions to leave. You keep returning, so evidently either you want some sort of discussion or you like trying to shut us down by telling us we're wrong about something you have no evidence to support. I understand your beliefs, and I respect you for sticking to them. Now you should hold yourself to your word and leave, since you've made clear you want nothing to do with us. The best way you can achieve having nothing to do with us is by not logging in and not responding to messages further to your latest. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 22:51, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
::I will make sure to keep to my word. I just wanted to say one more thing before I go. Sorry for my ignorance. You are right. The content here won't make it more likely for people to offend and I was wrong to think that. Please forgive me. And sorry for being rude. In what I said before (where I was wrong), I was not accusing Boywiki of doing anything wrong, nor did I want to try to shut down Boywiki. After this, I'm leaving for good. I have nothing against anyone here and I am sorry that I offended you. and thank you for being patient and understanding to me when I wasn't always. After this, I will say nothing more. Lister34 (talk) [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]])

== A request to make some edits in my stead ==

Hello, FalseAlias. I hope you're doing well. Normally I would make these edits myself, but, long story short, this alternative seems better than dealing with my OCD at the current time.

I would be very thankful if you could do me the favor of changing the title of the following page by adding the words "Medieval" and "Persian", so that it reads "(BLSB) - The Medieval Persian Sufi Ritual Practice..." and so on.

https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Sufi_Ritual_Practice_of_%22Sh%C4%81hid-B%C4%81z%C4%AB%22,_the_Contemplation_of_Handsome_Beardless_Youths,_as_Featured_in_Two_Anecdotes_from_the_Anonymous_Hagiography_of_Fakhr_al-D%C4%ABn_%CA%BFIr%C4%81q%C4%AB

Also, it would be great if you could create a page with the following title:

(BLSB) - The Categories of Same-Sex Male Eroticism in Ottoman Turkish Literature, as Featured in 'Repeller of Sorrows and Remover of Cares' by Deli Birader Gazali

The content of it would be the following (I will add the excerpt itself later):

From "From the Pervert, Back to the Beloved: Homosexuality and Ottoman Literary History, 1453–1923" by Abdulhamit Arvas, in The Cambridge History of Gay and Lesbian Literature, edited by E. L. McCallum and Mikko Tuhkanen (Cambridge; New York: Cambridge University Press, 2014). Footnote omitted.

Thanks for your attention, and sorry for the trouble. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 08:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

:: Hi Dandelion, I echo the well wishes back to you as well. I hope you've been doing okay.
:: Per your request, I've renamed the Sufi Ritual page to add Medieval Persian to its title and have created the page on categories of same-sex male eroticism in Ottoman Turkish literature. For convenience, I'll link the new page below to make it a little faster for you to get to when you're ready to insert the excerpt.
:: https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Categories_of_Same-Sex_Male_Eroticism_in_Ottoman_Turkish_Literature,_as_Featured_in_%27Repeller_of_Sorrows_and_Remover_of_Cares%27_by_Deli_Birader_Gazali
:: It was no trouble, so don't worry about it. Thank you for feeling me an appropriate person to approach on this. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 19:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

::: A belated thank you for the assistance, FalseAlias. I really appreciate it. I may not interact much in BoyWiki, but I'm available in case you need help as a fellow editor. I have just added the excerpt to the page you created for me, so I invite you to take a look. Have a nice weekend. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 12:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
:::: Hello again, FalseAlias. At the risk of overstepping the mark, since you have already been quite helpful with my previous requests, I ask you for another favor, hoping that it will not take much of your time. I would really appreciate it if you could create a new page with the following title:

::::(BLSB) - The Categories and Dynamics of Same-Sex Male Eroticism in Ottoman Turkish Literature, as Featured in 'Repeller of Sorrows and Remover of Cares' by Deli Birader Gazali

::::with the content of said page being cut-and-pasted from the previous one that you created for me (this older page would be left blank):

::::https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Categories_of_Same-Sex_Male_Eroticism_in_Ottoman_Turkish_Literature,_as_Featured_in_%27Repeller_of_Sorrows_and_Remover_of_Cares%27_by_Deli_Birader_Gazali

::::I ask for the creation of a new page instead of simply changing the name of the original one, as I would prefer not to have pages with redirect links (after the new page is created, I will put the original one, now blank, in the category of "Articles proposed for deletion"). I know that this a strange request, but, as you can notice by looking at the "Recent changes" in BoyWiki, whenever I try to correct certain mistakes or create new pages, I often end up doing a lot of repetitious edits against my better judgment. Therefore, in order to avoid prolonging this situation, I once again appeal to your kindness. Have a nice day. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 09:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

:::::Per your request, page has been relocated to the name you've provided and the original page has been left pseudo-blank. Since you are going to mark the original as for deletion anyway, I felt it likely to save a little time on your part if I put the delete tag in there in advanced.

:::::The request doesn't present itself as strange. A large number of redirect pages can feel unusual, and takes up space that does not need taking if the redirect pages are unlikely to be used.

:::::I know there's times where I've made multiple repetitious edits on the same page(s) to correct small mistakes or add minor details skipped out in other previous edits, so I know the feeling of wanting to avoid doing such.

:::::A link, for convenience, to the new page: https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Categories_and_Dynamics_of_Same-Sex_Male_Eroticism_in_Ottoman_Turkish_Literature,_as_Featured_in_%27Repeller_of_Sorrows_and_Remover_of_Cares%27_by_Deli_Birader_Gazali

:::::I hope you've been doing well. You have yourself a nice day too. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

User talk:FalseAlias

2021-02-19T16:50:22Z

FalseAlias: /* A request to make some edits in my stead */

'''Welcome to ''BoyWiki''!'''
We hope you will contribute much and well.
You will probably want to read the [[:Category:Help|help pages]].
Again, welcome and have fun! [[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 20:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

== Why I am leaving Boywiki for good ==

Hello, FalseAlias. First of all, I may have prejudged Boywiki. I don't really see anything that condones adult-child sexual activity. Boywiki is fine the way it is. Don't take any of what I am about to say personally, I have nothing against the people who edit here. One of the reasons that I am leaving Boywiki is that I don't personally agree with the political beliefs dominant on Boywiki. I am sorry. The second reason is that I don't want to associate myself with any political movement or controversial opinions online. I also don't want to do anything that would possibly make people suspicious of me and I '''don't''' want to '''look like''' I am working against the law, or for people to think or accuse me of doing unlawful activities, even if it's '''not true'''. '''I have always fully supported the law 100% and I will always follow and obey the law completely, no mater what.''', So I don,"t want any reason for people to think otherwise. I originally signed up to Boywiki to help contribute to Wikis with diverse viewpoints. I didn't realize that it could be unsafe for me to do so, So for this reason, I would like to leave Boywiki permanently. I am very sorry.
:It's okay to choose to leave, and I'm not going to object to your ability to decide whether or not you wish to be a member. The only reason I questioned your decision is because it looked like you were leaving because you felt content was biased and electing to leave rather than to try fix the issue. To be clear, I didn't take any of this personally either. It was strange for me to read that you were choosing to leave while also having the power to fix what appeared (at the time of my reading) to be wrong.
:That said, I do still wish to know what on BoyWiki (in your opinion) suggests that BoyWiki contributes towards a political movement or what might make people view you as a person who works against the law. If there is Wiki content which might appear to advocate for changes in existing laws those pieces should be edited (though I must state that there is a difference between the articles some users submit and the Wiki articles, which are to remain unbiased and objective in nature). I've no doubt that there are some parts of the wiki which were left with biased opinions or non-objective views (some of which I patched, but still many more to go), and I'll do my best to patch those as and when I find them. Pointers will be super helpful. If it's wiki content, and if I have that ability, I'll rewrite what's necessary to make it objective and non-advocative.
: I understand your decision entirely, and completely respect it. While I think that contributing is safe, I understand how it could misrepresent a person by association. I don't have any ability to do anything with your account, that'll be something that Etenne has to do, but I understand and respect your decision. If you can help towards de-biasing Wiki articles before you go, that'll be extremely useful too (even if that's just pointing us to where edits need to be made). [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for understanding. By the way, my views fall more onto the line of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] which are: '''"Sexual activity between an adult and a child is always wrong"''', and I '''"oppose legalizing adult/child sexual activity or making it in any way more accepted"''', though I am '''not''' a pedophile myself. '''These are my beliefs, which I will always have'''. I also support what organizations like the American Psychological Association, have to say about pedophilia. It would be good to include the views of Non-Contact Minor Attracted Persons (NOMAPS) such as the views of this group to some of your articles, as well as pedophiles who view pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder and believe they need to be treated for it, so maybe their views could be represented on Boywiki, If you agree with that. I think that your article on [[pedophilia]] is well-balanced and scientific, though [[Wikipedia]]'s article is a great guideline ( see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia). Also, I would like to know if going on to, making an account, and contributing to Boywiki is legal Outside of the U.S. (eg. Canada). [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:38, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
::: I've no idea whether or not BoyWiki and/or contributing to it represents any legal issues in Canada. I think that depends largely on exactly what you contribute and for what purpose the contribution is being used for (as might be the case in most places). I wish I could say I was a legal expert but I am quite far from it. I try to know what I need to about what is and is not okay in the most common countries that boylovers originate from.
::: To address the line regarding content nature: I don't disagree with your views as much as you think. Personally, I don't believe all sexual contact between adult and children is harmful, but that is different to whether or not it is right or wrong. I think it's less up to the adult in those situations, that it is solely the child's choice only if they have all the information necessary to make a decision, but that's my personal opinion. I do, however, oppose any sort of legalisation or normalisation of sexual contact between adults and children without substantial research performed with large sample sizes evidencing that there are considerably more positive benefits from the contact than there are negative. To me, the notion that it should be normal in today's society is silly and unfounded in its entirety, and to make such a claim without having unbiased research to support such claims would be the demise of such a person socially, and potentially legally in some places.
::: With the above said, a wiki such as this is for the representation of known factual information (except for personal articles, which differ visually from primary wiki content so far as I am aware). If wiki content leans towards a particular viewpoint or unfairly represents factual information to bias it towards any view whether for or against contact, that content must be edited so that it is objective and presents only the factual information known to be correct (ideally this information can be cited, unless it does not need to be). If you want to direct me to wiki content that is in desperate need of revisions regarding objectivity, I will do my best to rework it so that it is objective and not attempting to advocate for anything other than understanding. I think that if opinions are represented in articles, the opinions on all sides need to be shown and not just the side we happen to relate the most to.
::: If it is of any help, we may be able to get in contact with one another external to here in which you pass me information on content which you feel needs editing for objectivity purposes or to remove biases, and I make those edits to the best of my ability thereby leaving your name out of things entirely. The contributions would be listed as mine, and since our communications would be private and encrypted you can remain safe knowing that both 1. I won't violate your right to privacy, and 2. your name will not come up as the author of an edit, keeping your name "clean". [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:39, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
::::O.K. Thank you very much for offering, but I am not comfortable in doing this. I made some changes to the article for Virtious Pedophiles. Please let me know what you think of it. ''In regards to your statement, "I don't believe all sexual contact between adult and children is harmful." you would '''never''' actually physically engage in sexual contact with children yourself, right? You were just '''stating your personal beliefs''' and '''never''' touched a child. By the way, I '''don't''' want you to think I am accusing you of doing anything wrong, which I am '''not'''.'' To clarify, in regards to Boywiki, the fact that it included views that state that adult-child romantic feelings towards children by adults is O.K. and normal, rather than inappropriate( which I think, '''make it seem ok to engage in inappropriate sexual behaviour'''), or saying that the age of consent should be lowered or abolished (the two views that I '''strongly oppose'''), made me '''falsely''' think in then past that Boywiki promoted or said these things are O.K., which I thought, meant that Boywiki thought inappropriate adult-child sex was o.k., which it doesn't, although '''"is holding the view that adult-child sex as o.k. or any form of Pedophile Advocacy legal in Canada?''' . Other than that, as a pointer, it would be good to include the opinions of Non-Offending Pedophiles (NOMAPS), '''who's views I strongly support''', and explain their point-of-view on Boywiki maybe. I '''strongly oppose''' groups like NAMBLA for their beliefs. Unrelated, I also wanted to say that I '''oppose''' attempts and arguments to lower the age of consent or to normalize Adult-Child '''romantic''' relationships (NOT sexual in nature), and I view pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder (like Bipolar disorder or OCD) as opposed to a sexual orientation. I am sorry. I also strongly believe that children can '''never''' give consent to romantic or sexual relationships and they can '''never''' give appropriate consent and it would be '''wrong and immoral''' to state or convince people otherwise, as well as '''all''' forms of sexual activity with children cause them '''harm'''. '''I have always believed these things.''' I'm sorry, but I now choose to no longer contribute to Boywiki. Thank you for your '''understanding''' that you shared me. Please let [[Etenne]] know this as well. Lister34 (talk) 23:47, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::To clarify your italics paragraph: At present, I would not engage in any type of sexual conduct with a child. This would put myself at risk, in addition to potentially ruining that person's life and the various lives of people I know and trust both online and offline. My personal belief is only that it is not inherently harmful for a child to be sexually active with themselves, with another child, or with an adult. I acknowledge that it can be harmful, but I don't believe that it is always harmful. That's simply a belief. Nothing more.
:::::For the pointers: I'd do better with article names, because BoyWiki has a lot of content on many subjects and I can only guess on search terms and hope I come across what you're talking about. I did some going through things yesterday (mostly by the Random Page button) looking for things that might be non-objective or may only contain views from one side and not the other. I didn't find too much but I did come across some pages that I feel need deletion or various revisions. I don't mind if you don't want to point out what specific parts of the article need changing, or for what reason(s). I'll probably find those out myself anyway after enough staring at it. Specific article names/links would go pretty far in at least starting the process. Your choice in that though. I'll still be going over things by pressing Random Page for a while yet.
:::::Don't apologize for your beliefs. It's okay to have different beliefs, and I'm not going to crucify you for disagreeing with me. I respect that your views are different than mine, and I'm fairly confident that I would understand your beliefs if I knew the reasons behind them, but I don't need to know those reasons in order to respect your beliefs. I recognise too that your beliefs are why you are leaving, and that is okay. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:42, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::O.K. Thank you very much for understanding. I respect your beliefs as well. I don't need to know the reasons behind your beliefs in order to respect them, either. Here is the link to the [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] page that I worked on. Also, I believe that any kind of inappropriate sexual contact with a child will always be "child sexual abuse" and I would '''never''' touch a child in an inappropriate way or anything else to mentally harm a child. I could help you make Boywiki more neutral before I go, but personally, I don't feel comfortable editing or having an account on Boywiki because of the risks involved. I am sorry, but I feel that I should part ways with Boywiki. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 21:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

== Articles I plan on doing something with ==

I've decided I'd be better making a list here of articles I feel need a clean-up of some description. Some may: contain blatantly false claims, make claims without sufficient citations, are not objective, or otherwise need revisions to bring it in-line with what is expected on a wiki such as this. Note: I only briefly looked at each article. I did not go through everything in the article. I will do that when I get to revising the articles.

*https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyLover_child-abuse_narrative - Various claims without citations, some non-objectivity.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Misconceptions_about_pedophiles%27_sexual_activities_with_young_people Language cleanup. Maybe other.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Anal_intercourse Some cite errors.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mental_disorder Objectivity.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sex_offender I think this whole article needs a fairly big rewrite.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sexually_violent_predator As above. Better definition needed.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Juvenile_sex_offender Needs some revisions. The article is extremely small, and should be labelled as a fledgling.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Ronan_Parke Debating whether this needs objectivity edits or not.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Indecent Some expansion perhaps.

*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Consent Imo, needs a rewrite. Consent is a deeper subject than two paragraphs.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Objectify Uncited claims regarding objectification. Imo needs an objectivity rewrite. How ironic.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Betrayal_of_trust Objectivity, and structure. The opening few paragraphs aren't particularly fact-based, and what claims are made are not supported.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sex I've no idea what this article is supposed to be. It needs a rewrite.

Additional useful link(s) (not on the to-edit list): https://www.boywiki.org/en/Help:Editing_BoyWiki_101

Didn't realise there was a category for this. https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Articles_requiring_cleanup

Maybe I should be using that.

Other things for me to look at if/when I get time: https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Fledglings

This list will be edited in future. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 02:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

== Why I stated my beliefs and an apology ==

::O.K. Sorry for preaching. I have nothing against Boywiki or any of it's users. Please disregard what I said earlier about trolls and sorry if that alarmed anyone. It was just me being overly cautious. Please forgive me. '''I respect your beliefs just as much as my own, even if I don't agree with them.''' [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Imo, you've nothing to be forgiven for. You were stating beliefs, and that isn't a crime. I was only slightly annoyed because you were rather excessively persistent about stating them in almost every message (at which point, I thought "I know this now, why do you keep saying it?"). I can understand ones desire to distance themselves from us especially if they don't share any paedophilic/hebephilic/ephebophilic desires. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 12:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
::::O.K. Thank you for understanding. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 23:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

==Thank you for forgiving me==

Thank you for forgiving me. Sorry again for my past behavior. I won't do that again. I respect your beliefs as much as my own, even if I don't personally agree with them. I would like to leave here on good terms and not upset anyone. Goodbye. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 22:37, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

== Just one more thing. ==

To clarify, when I say that I respect your beliefs, I understand your feelings behind them, but for me, I ''value people more than I value beliefs and ideas''. Beliefs can be imperfect and in error, but ''people mean everything''. I don't mean to be disrespectful by saying this and if it seems like I am, please let me know. ''With my above statement in mind, I don't support all beliefs and ideas, but I value those who believe in those ideas as human beings apart from their beliefs. ''Ultimately, even if I were not to respect one's beliefs, '''I still respect that person in that I value the one who holds those beliefs as a human being ''separate'' from their beliefs. I have always believed this, and I always will.''' And I am sorry to say this, but I can't respect the beliefs that you stated earlier, while '''I respect you in that I value you as a human being apart from your beliefs'''. I just wanted to say this before I finally leave for good.[[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:39, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
:I think this had been cleared up already. Most people are aware that respecting a person isn't synonymous with respecting their beliefs. People respect Trump for following through with some of his policies, but they still disagree with the policy itself.
:I had prepared a different response but you have since modified your wording, thus rendering most of my response meaningless.
:[[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 15:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

::O.K. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that most people thought that respecting a person isn't the same as respecting their beliefs. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 15:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

== About the content of Boywiki ==

When I stated, "I don't really see anything that condones adult-child sexual activity" in my earlier post, the material here can create an atmosphere that makes people more likely to offend, since many of the articles share the view that adult-child sexual activities are not always harmful. This isn't true, I am sorry to say this. I don't want to have anything remotely to do with this viewpoint. That's why I want to have nothing to do with Boywiki. I just wanted to clarify myself. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
:This view is incorrect. The material here does not make people more likely to offend at all. No one is going to go out and have sex with a minor, and when questioned say "I read on BoyWiki that it's not always harmful so I thought I'd give it a go." People aren't that stupid, and your belief that they are is quite frankly offensive to every BL who has self-control. The content here is primarily factual, and your choosing not to believe them is a display of not being open-minded. There is a study out of Switzerland that concluded the use of child pornography does not encourage contact-offences ([https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-9-43 Source]). I suggest you read it and then re-evaluate how the content here could make people more likely to offend when child pornography doesn't.
:You have had since October to discontinue logging in, when you first stated your intentions to leave. You keep returning, so evidently either you want some sort of discussion or you like trying to shut us down by telling us we're wrong about something you have no evidence to support. I understand your beliefs, and I respect you for sticking to them. Now you should hold yourself to your word and leave, since you've made clear you want nothing to do with us. The best way you can achieve having nothing to do with us is by not logging in and not responding to messages further to your latest. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 22:51, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
::I will make sure to keep to my word. I just wanted to say one more thing before I go. Sorry for my ignorance. You are right. The content here won't make it more likely for people to offend and I was wrong to think that. Please forgive me. And sorry for being rude. In what I said before (where I was wrong), I was not accusing Boywiki of doing anything wrong, nor did I want to try to shut down Boywiki. After this, I'm leaving for good. I have nothing against anyone here and I am sorry that I offended you. and thank you for being patient and understanding to me when I wasn't always. After this, I will say nothing more. Lister34 (talk) [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]])

== A request to make some edits in my stead ==

Hello, FalseAlias. I hope you're doing well. Normally I would make these edits myself, but, long story short, this alternative seems better than dealing with my OCD at the current time.

I would be very thankful if you could do me the favor of changing the title of the following page by adding the words "Medieval" and "Persian", so that it reads "(BLSB) - The Medieval Persian Sufi Ritual Practice..." and so on.

https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Sufi_Ritual_Practice_of_%22Sh%C4%81hid-B%C4%81z%C4%AB%22,_the_Contemplation_of_Handsome_Beardless_Youths,_as_Featured_in_Two_Anecdotes_from_the_Anonymous_Hagiography_of_Fakhr_al-D%C4%ABn_%CA%BFIr%C4%81q%C4%AB

Also, it would be great if you could create a page with the following title:

(BLSB) - The Categories of Same-Sex Male Eroticism in Ottoman Turkish Literature, as Featured in 'Repeller of Sorrows and Remover of Cares' by Deli Birader Gazali

The content of it would be the following (I will add the excerpt itself later):

From "From the Pervert, Back to the Beloved: Homosexuality and Ottoman Literary History, 1453–1923" by Abdulhamit Arvas, in The Cambridge History of Gay and Lesbian Literature, edited by E. L. McCallum and Mikko Tuhkanen (Cambridge; New York: Cambridge University Press, 2014). Footnote omitted.

Thanks for your attention, and sorry for the trouble. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 08:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

:: Hi Dandelion, I echo the well wishes back to you as well. I hope you've been doing okay.
:: Per your request, I've renamed the Sufi Ritual page to add Medieval Persian to its title and have created the page on categories of same-sex male eroticism in Ottoman Turkish literature. For convenience, I'll link the new page below to make it a little faster for you to get to when you're ready to insert the excerpt.
:: https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Categories_of_Same-Sex_Male_Eroticism_in_Ottoman_Turkish_Literature,_as_Featured_in_%27Repeller_of_Sorrows_and_Remover_of_Cares%27_by_Deli_Birader_Gazali
:: It was no trouble, so don't worry about it. Thank you for feeling me an appropriate person to approach on this. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 19:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

::: A belated thank you for the assistance, FalseAlias. I really appreciate it. I may not interact much in BoyWiki, but I'm available in case you need help as a fellow editor. I have just added the excerpt to the page you created for me, so I invite you to take a look. Have a nice weekend. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 12:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
:::: Hello again, FalseAlias. At the risk of overstepping the mark, since you have already been quite helpful with my previous requests, I ask you for another favor, hoping that it will not take much of your time. I would really appreciate it if you could create a new page with the following title:

::::(BLSB) - The Categories and Dynamics of Same-Sex Male Eroticism in Ottoman Turkish Literature, as Featured in 'Repeller of Sorrows and Remover of Cares' by Deli Birader Gazali

::::with the content of said page being cut-and-pasted from the previous one that you created for me (this older page would be left blank):

::::https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Categories_of_Same-Sex_Male_Eroticism_in_Ottoman_Turkish_Literature,_as_Featured_in_%27Repeller_of_Sorrows_and_Remover_of_Cares%27_by_Deli_Birader_Gazali

::::I ask for the creation of a new page instead of simply changing the name of the original one, as I would prefer not to have pages with redirect links (after the new page is created, I will put the original one, now blank, in the category of "Articles proposed for deletion"). I know that this a strange request, but, as you can notice by looking at the "Recent changes" in BoyWiki, whenever I try to correct certain mistakes or create new pages, I often end up doing a lot of repetitious edits against my better judgment. Therefore, in order to avoid prolonging this situation, I once again appeal to your kindness. Have a nice day. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 09:22, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

:::::Per your request, page has been relocated to the name you've provided and the original page has been left pseudo-blank. Since you are going to mark the original as for deletion anyway, I felt it likely to save a little time on your part if I put the delete tag in there in advanced.

:::::The request doesn't present itself as strange. A large number of redirect pages can feel unusual, and takes up space that does not need taking if the redirect pages are unlikely to be used.

:::::I know there's times where I've made multiple repetitious edits on the same page(s) to correct small mistakes or add minor details skipped out in other previous edits, so I know the feeling of wanting to avoid doing such.

:::::I hope you've been doing well. You have yourself a nice day too. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

BoyLover.net

2021-02-08T04:30:30Z

FalseAlias: BLN blacklisted by Web Archive.

'''BoyLover.net''' (other names: BLN, BLn, bl.net) was one of the world's largest online [[Boylove community|boylover communities]], and was the largest [[online message board]] for [[boylover]]s. It was started in 2002, and shut down by an FBI raid in 2009.

Note: As of January 2021, the Wayback Machine has blacklisted searches for the boylover.net domain. Previously, these sources were accurate and displayed content accurate to what is being cited by each link.

==History==
BLN was started and run by LostBoy for its lifespan, starting on May 1, 2002, and ending November 25, 2009. Within a few months of its initial creation, the site underwent a major redesign and restructure after it "became a battle zone for interpersonal flaming, insult, and damage."<ref name="lf2009">[http://web.archive.org/web/20090514050607/http://www.boylover.net:80/reference/index.php?page=our-look-and-feel BL.net: The Reference Shelves - Our Look and Feel (Internet Archive, 2009-05-14 05:06:07)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref> The redesign gave the board a friendlier feel and allowed it to better progress into a supportive environment. Language-specifics forums, as well as a room for under 18s, were features of the site.

On July 27, 2003, BLN established BoyLoverLinks.net as "a worldwide directory for the internet boylove community."<ref name="hist2009">[http://web.archive.org/web/20090514050637/http://www.boylover.net:80/reference/index.php?page=the-board-s-history BL.net: The Reference Shelves - The Board's History (Internet Archive, 2009-05-14 @ 05:06:37)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref>

===Server transfer, tech issues, and FBI seizure===

Somewhere in 2004, the BLN server was transferred from one location to another resulting in minor downtime. During this time an IP address was provided for users to visit the board with.<ref name="2004_001">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041114041452/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-11-14 @ 04:14:52)] Accessed November 23, 2018.</ref>

On November 18, 2004, one of the BLN hard drives powering the site failed resulting in further unexpected downtime. The IP address access was pulled and the site, as well as BoyLoverLinks.net, were both offline. It was stressed that no data was lost due to the hard drive failure. Emails were also unable to be sent to either BLN or BoyLoverLinks, and LostBoy provided a gmail address.<ref name="2004_002">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041119021654/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-11-19 @ 02:16:54)] Accessed November 23, 2018.</ref>

Between November 18 and December 2, 2004, the FBI seized the server hosting BoyLover.net and BoyLoverLinks.net as part of an investigation into the websites regarding their legality. BLN Relations Admin Joecool4218 had informed users via [[BoyChat]] that BLN had been taken offline due to a pending FBI investigation in response to a comment by another BoyChat poster.<ref name="fbi_2004_01">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041119021654/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-11-19 @ 02:16:54] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref><ref name="fbi_2004_02">[http://web.archive.org/web/20041212053514/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2004-12-12 @ 05:35:14)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref><ref name="fbi2004_03">[https://www.boychat.org/bcd/2004/878548.htm BC Digest - Re: Boylover.net servers seized by FBI (December 2, 2004, Joecool4218)] Accessed November 10, 2018.</ref> At the time of the seizure, the site had 15,000 registered users.<ref name="fbi2004_04">[https://www.boychat.org/bcd/2004/879737.htm BC Digest - BLnet and Individual Tragedies Lead to Progress? (December 6, 2004, Curtis)] Accessed November 10, 2018.</ref>

BLN was back online by mid January 2005 with no compromised user data. Two weeks of data was lost due to the sudden nature of the downtime.<ref name="fbi2004_05">[http://web.archive.org/web/20050120024829/http://www.arleigh-burke.info:80/lostboy/ BoyLover.net Emergency News Page (Internet Archive, 2005-01-20 @ 02:48:29)] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref>

===Site shutdown===
''Main article: [[Operation Rescue]]''

On November 25, 2009, a complex international investigation being run by Europol seized the BoyLover.net server and arrested some of the site's senior members of staff. Joecool4218 and JagDawg were arrested by ICE, and LostBoy was arrested by Dutch police. In New Zealand Loren was also arrested. [[BoyZoom]], Loren's site, was shut down by other members of its administration temporarily. On December 1, BoyZoom announced its permanent closure.<ref name="fbi2009_01">[http://web.archive.org/web/20091212191232/https://www.northfulton.com/articles-c-2009-12-07-181049.114126-sub_international_child_porn_ring_tied_to_roswell_cumming.html International child porn ring tied to Roswell, Cumming (Internet Archive, 2009-12-12 @ 19:12:32] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref><ref name="bz_2009_01">[https://secure.boychat.org/messages/1190351.htm I got this news from the BZ... (BoyChat) 2009-11-25 19:38:56 EST] Accessed December 1, 2018.</ref><ref name="bz_2009_02">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1191168.htm Re: B/Z down to? (BoyChat) - 2009-12-1 12:00:46 EST] Accessed December 1, 2018.</ref>

On March 2011, a press conference held by Europol following the conviction of LostBoy provided details of the three-year investigation named Operation Rescue. It was announced that there were 184 arrests and 670 suspects were identified and investigated. They also stated that, at the time of the conference, 4202 intelligence reports had been distributed to over 30 countries.<ref name="europol1">[https://www.europol.europa.eu/activities-services/europol-in-action/operations/operation-rescue Operation Rescue | Europol] Accessed December 1, 2018.</ref>

==Features==
BLN was run through the Ultimate Bulletin Board software and had forums for a variety of languages including Spanish, Dutch, Russian, and Hungarian. There were also various forums for entertainment threads and pictures or videos in addition to literature forums and an area specifically for members under 18 years of age (where those over 16 were not permitted). In December 2005, the most popular forums were The Porch and The Entry, with The Poolside following in third. Of the foreign forums, Das Deutsche Zimmer and El Caurto Hispano were the two most popular with 91212 and 79998 posts respectively.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20051206004603/http://www.boylover.net:80/ubb/ultimatebb.php BoyLover.net (Internet Archive, 2005-12-03 @ 00:46:03)] Accessed November 10, 2018.</ref>

Site design heavily featured: large, illustrative photographs; strong use of bright colors; and a multitude of icons. Color scheme was occasionally transformed, in recognition of significant or tragic events, to a monochromatic theme.{{cite}}

Members were categorized according to their post count, with a member starting as "New Kid" and eventually becoming "Elder Brother" at 5000 posts. While this made it simple to tell oldtimers from newbies, it often led to members posting playfully in order to increase their post count, and hence their status.<ref name="ranks2009">[http://web.archive.org/web/20090514050642/http://www.boylover.net:80/reference/index.php?page=the-membership-journey BL.net: The Reference Shelves - The Membership Journey (Internet Archive, 2009-05-14 @ 05:06:42] Accessed November 22, 2018.</ref>

Site management was highly organized, and a team of Buddies were responsible for welcoming and guiding new members of the community. Highly respected members were sometimes named Mentors. Only one member, Friend, had been named Mentor.{{cite}}

The site also featured a free online magazine called [[Modern Boylover Magazine]] which started in 2006. The latest issue of MBM was published in December 2015.

==Security==
BoyLover.net's rules and guidelines were intended to safeguard the site's legality according to [[United States]] law. A complex, three-tiered organization of nearly 100 volunteers served users of the site and enforced site policy.

Site administrators were been criticized for taking a cavalier attitude toward security problems.{{cite}}

Some portals had warned against BoyLover.net on grounds that the site allowed off-site image links, making [[IP harvesting]] relatively simple. Due to this, visitors were advised to turn off images when loading BoyLover.net forums if they are worried about their surfing habits being analyzed by unknown and potentially hostile parties.{{cite}}

BoyLover.net's privacy policy was visually lengthy, and within that it was clearly stated that they collected IP addresses. Further, it was stated that they (BoyLover.net administration) would share personal information of members to comply with law enforcement or to protect the board. At the time, this was intended as a protection measure to ensure the site remains online and functioning within the law, and these practices were used out of necessity rather than of choice.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090907171206/http://www.boylover.net/info/privacy.php BoyLover.net Privacy Statement (Internet Archive, 2009-09-07 @ 17:12:06)] Accessed June 13, 2018</ref>

==Mission statement==
The following was taken from BoyLover.net's home page:

:BoyLover.net provides a safe, supportive, and legal environment where boylovers, boys, and others interested in boylove can share thoughts, opinions, feelings, and experiences. Its forums are online meeting places where questions, advice, and debate take place freely in an atmosphere of comfort and mutual respect, and where educational material and information about boylove can be shared.

==References==
{{reflist}}
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Online history]]

User talk:FalseAlias

2021-02-05T19:34:24Z

FalseAlias: /* A request to make some edits in my stead */

'''Welcome to ''BoyWiki''!'''
We hope you will contribute much and well.
You will probably want to read the [[:Category:Help|help pages]].
Again, welcome and have fun! [[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 20:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

== Why I am leaving Boywiki for good ==

Hello, FalseAlias. First of all, I may have prejudged Boywiki. I don't really see anything that condones adult-child sexual activity. Boywiki is fine the way it is. Don't take any of what I am about to say personally, I have nothing against the people who edit here. One of the reasons that I am leaving Boywiki is that I don't personally agree with the political beliefs dominant on Boywiki. I am sorry. The second reason is that I don't want to associate myself with any political movement or controversial opinions online. I also don't want to do anything that would possibly make people suspicious of me and I '''don't''' want to '''look like''' I am working against the law, or for people to think or accuse me of doing unlawful activities, even if it's '''not true'''. '''I have always fully supported the law 100% and I will always follow and obey the law completely, no mater what.''', So I don,"t want any reason for people to think otherwise. I originally signed up to Boywiki to help contribute to Wikis with diverse viewpoints. I didn't realize that it could be unsafe for me to do so, So for this reason, I would like to leave Boywiki permanently. I am very sorry.
:It's okay to choose to leave, and I'm not going to object to your ability to decide whether or not you wish to be a member. The only reason I questioned your decision is because it looked like you were leaving because you felt content was biased and electing to leave rather than to try fix the issue. To be clear, I didn't take any of this personally either. It was strange for me to read that you were choosing to leave while also having the power to fix what appeared (at the time of my reading) to be wrong.
:That said, I do still wish to know what on BoyWiki (in your opinion) suggests that BoyWiki contributes towards a political movement or what might make people view you as a person who works against the law. If there is Wiki content which might appear to advocate for changes in existing laws those pieces should be edited (though I must state that there is a difference between the articles some users submit and the Wiki articles, which are to remain unbiased and objective in nature). I've no doubt that there are some parts of the wiki which were left with biased opinions or non-objective views (some of which I patched, but still many more to go), and I'll do my best to patch those as and when I find them. Pointers will be super helpful. If it's wiki content, and if I have that ability, I'll rewrite what's necessary to make it objective and non-advocative.
: I understand your decision entirely, and completely respect it. While I think that contributing is safe, I understand how it could misrepresent a person by association. I don't have any ability to do anything with your account, that'll be something that Etenne has to do, but I understand and respect your decision. If you can help towards de-biasing Wiki articles before you go, that'll be extremely useful too (even if that's just pointing us to where edits need to be made). [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you very much for understanding. By the way, my views fall more onto the line of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] which are: '''"Sexual activity between an adult and a child is always wrong"''', and I '''"oppose legalizing adult/child sexual activity or making it in any way more accepted"''', though I am '''not''' a pedophile myself. '''These are my beliefs, which I will always have'''. I also support what organizations like the American Psychological Association, have to say about pedophilia. It would be good to include the views of Non-Contact Minor Attracted Persons (NOMAPS) such as the views of this group to some of your articles, as well as pedophiles who view pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder and believe they need to be treated for it, so maybe their views could be represented on Boywiki, If you agree with that. I think that your article on [[pedophilia]] is well-balanced and scientific, though [[Wikipedia]]'s article is a great guideline ( see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia). Also, I would like to know if going on to, making an account, and contributing to Boywiki is legal Outside of the U.S. (eg. Canada). [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:38, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
::: I've no idea whether or not BoyWiki and/or contributing to it represents any legal issues in Canada. I think that depends largely on exactly what you contribute and for what purpose the contribution is being used for (as might be the case in most places). I wish I could say I was a legal expert but I am quite far from it. I try to know what I need to about what is and is not okay in the most common countries that boylovers originate from.
::: To address the line regarding content nature: I don't disagree with your views as much as you think. Personally, I don't believe all sexual contact between adult and children is harmful, but that is different to whether or not it is right or wrong. I think it's less up to the adult in those situations, that it is solely the child's choice only if they have all the information necessary to make a decision, but that's my personal opinion. I do, however, oppose any sort of legalisation or normalisation of sexual contact between adults and children without substantial research performed with large sample sizes evidencing that there are considerably more positive benefits from the contact than there are negative. To me, the notion that it should be normal in today's society is silly and unfounded in its entirety, and to make such a claim without having unbiased research to support such claims would be the demise of such a person socially, and potentially legally in some places.
::: With the above said, a wiki such as this is for the representation of known factual information (except for personal articles, which differ visually from primary wiki content so far as I am aware). If wiki content leans towards a particular viewpoint or unfairly represents factual information to bias it towards any view whether for or against contact, that content must be edited so that it is objective and presents only the factual information known to be correct (ideally this information can be cited, unless it does not need to be). If you want to direct me to wiki content that is in desperate need of revisions regarding objectivity, I will do my best to rework it so that it is objective and not attempting to advocate for anything other than understanding. I think that if opinions are represented in articles, the opinions on all sides need to be shown and not just the side we happen to relate the most to.
::: If it is of any help, we may be able to get in contact with one another external to here in which you pass me information on content which you feel needs editing for objectivity purposes or to remove biases, and I make those edits to the best of my ability thereby leaving your name out of things entirely. The contributions would be listed as mine, and since our communications would be private and encrypted you can remain safe knowing that both 1. I won't violate your right to privacy, and 2. your name will not come up as the author of an edit, keeping your name "clean". [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:39, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
::::O.K. Thank you very much for offering, but I am not comfortable in doing this. I made some changes to the article for Virtious Pedophiles. Please let me know what you think of it. ''In regards to your statement, "I don't believe all sexual contact between adult and children is harmful." you would '''never''' actually physically engage in sexual contact with children yourself, right? You were just '''stating your personal beliefs''' and '''never''' touched a child. By the way, I '''don't''' want you to think I am accusing you of doing anything wrong, which I am '''not'''.'' To clarify, in regards to Boywiki, the fact that it included views that state that adult-child romantic feelings towards children by adults is O.K. and normal, rather than inappropriate( which I think, '''make it seem ok to engage in inappropriate sexual behaviour'''), or saying that the age of consent should be lowered or abolished (the two views that I '''strongly oppose'''), made me '''falsely''' think in then past that Boywiki promoted or said these things are O.K., which I thought, meant that Boywiki thought inappropriate adult-child sex was o.k., which it doesn't, although '''"is holding the view that adult-child sex as o.k. or any form of Pedophile Advocacy legal in Canada?''' . Other than that, as a pointer, it would be good to include the opinions of Non-Offending Pedophiles (NOMAPS), '''who's views I strongly support''', and explain their point-of-view on Boywiki maybe. I '''strongly oppose''' groups like NAMBLA for their beliefs. Unrelated, I also wanted to say that I '''oppose''' attempts and arguments to lower the age of consent or to normalize Adult-Child '''romantic''' relationships (NOT sexual in nature), and I view pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder (like Bipolar disorder or OCD) as opposed to a sexual orientation. I am sorry. I also strongly believe that children can '''never''' give consent to romantic or sexual relationships and they can '''never''' give appropriate consent and it would be '''wrong and immoral''' to state or convince people otherwise, as well as '''all''' forms of sexual activity with children cause them '''harm'''. '''I have always believed these things.''' I'm sorry, but I now choose to no longer contribute to Boywiki. Thank you for your '''understanding''' that you shared me. Please let [[Etenne]] know this as well. Lister34 (talk) 23:47, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::To clarify your italics paragraph: At present, I would not engage in any type of sexual conduct with a child. This would put myself at risk, in addition to potentially ruining that person's life and the various lives of people I know and trust both online and offline. My personal belief is only that it is not inherently harmful for a child to be sexually active with themselves, with another child, or with an adult. I acknowledge that it can be harmful, but I don't believe that it is always harmful. That's simply a belief. Nothing more.
:::::For the pointers: I'd do better with article names, because BoyWiki has a lot of content on many subjects and I can only guess on search terms and hope I come across what you're talking about. I did some going through things yesterday (mostly by the Random Page button) looking for things that might be non-objective or may only contain views from one side and not the other. I didn't find too much but I did come across some pages that I feel need deletion or various revisions. I don't mind if you don't want to point out what specific parts of the article need changing, or for what reason(s). I'll probably find those out myself anyway after enough staring at it. Specific article names/links would go pretty far in at least starting the process. Your choice in that though. I'll still be going over things by pressing Random Page for a while yet.
:::::Don't apologize for your beliefs. It's okay to have different beliefs, and I'm not going to crucify you for disagreeing with me. I respect that your views are different than mine, and I'm fairly confident that I would understand your beliefs if I knew the reasons behind them, but I don't need to know those reasons in order to respect your beliefs. I recognise too that your beliefs are why you are leaving, and that is okay. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 01:42, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::O.K. Thank you very much for understanding. I respect your beliefs as well. I don't need to know the reasons behind your beliefs in order to respect them, either. Here is the link to the [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] page that I worked on. Also, I believe that any kind of inappropriate sexual contact with a child will always be "child sexual abuse" and I would '''never''' touch a child in an inappropriate way or anything else to mentally harm a child. I could help you make Boywiki more neutral before I go, but personally, I don't feel comfortable editing or having an account on Boywiki because of the risks involved. I am sorry, but I feel that I should part ways with Boywiki. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 21:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

== Articles I plan on doing something with ==

I've decided I'd be better making a list here of articles I feel need a clean-up of some description. Some may: contain blatantly false claims, make claims without sufficient citations, are not objective, or otherwise need revisions to bring it in-line with what is expected on a wiki such as this. Note: I only briefly looked at each article. I did not go through everything in the article. I will do that when I get to revising the articles.

*https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyLover_child-abuse_narrative - Various claims without citations, some non-objectivity.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Misconceptions_about_pedophiles%27_sexual_activities_with_young_people Language cleanup. Maybe other.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Anal_intercourse Some cite errors.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mental_disorder Objectivity.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sex_offender I think this whole article needs a fairly big rewrite.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sexually_violent_predator As above. Better definition needed.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Juvenile_sex_offender Needs some revisions. The article is extremely small, and should be labelled as a fledgling.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Ronan_Parke Debating whether this needs objectivity edits or not.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Indecent Some expansion perhaps.

*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Consent Imo, needs a rewrite. Consent is a deeper subject than two paragraphs.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Objectify Uncited claims regarding objectification. Imo needs an objectivity rewrite. How ironic.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Betrayal_of_trust Objectivity, and structure. The opening few paragraphs aren't particularly fact-based, and what claims are made are not supported.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Sex I've no idea what this article is supposed to be. It needs a rewrite.

Additional useful link(s) (not on the to-edit list): https://www.boywiki.org/en/Help:Editing_BoyWiki_101

Didn't realise there was a category for this. https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Articles_requiring_cleanup

Maybe I should be using that.

Other things for me to look at if/when I get time: https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Fledglings

This list will be edited in future. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 02:14, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

== Why I stated my beliefs and an apology ==

::O.K. Sorry for preaching. I have nothing against Boywiki or any of it's users. Please disregard what I said earlier about trolls and sorry if that alarmed anyone. It was just me being overly cautious. Please forgive me. '''I respect your beliefs just as much as my own, even if I don't agree with them.''' [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Imo, you've nothing to be forgiven for. You were stating beliefs, and that isn't a crime. I was only slightly annoyed because you were rather excessively persistent about stating them in almost every message (at which point, I thought "I know this now, why do you keep saying it?"). I can understand ones desire to distance themselves from us especially if they don't share any paedophilic/hebephilic/ephebophilic desires. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 12:27, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
::::O.K. Thank you for understanding. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 23:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

==Thank you for forgiving me==

Thank you for forgiving me. Sorry again for my past behavior. I won't do that again. I respect your beliefs as much as my own, even if I don't personally agree with them. I would like to leave here on good terms and not upset anyone. Goodbye. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 22:37, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

== Just one more thing. ==

To clarify, when I say that I respect your beliefs, I understand your feelings behind them, but for me, I ''value people more than I value beliefs and ideas''. Beliefs can be imperfect and in error, but ''people mean everything''. I don't mean to be disrespectful by saying this and if it seems like I am, please let me know. ''With my above statement in mind, I don't support all beliefs and ideas, but I value those who believe in those ideas as human beings apart from their beliefs. ''Ultimately, even if I were not to respect one's beliefs, '''I still respect that person in that I value the one who holds those beliefs as a human being ''separate'' from their beliefs. I have always believed this, and I always will.''' And I am sorry to say this, but I can't respect the beliefs that you stated earlier, while '''I respect you in that I value you as a human being apart from your beliefs'''. I just wanted to say this before I finally leave for good.[[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:39, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
:I think this had been cleared up already. Most people are aware that respecting a person isn't synonymous with respecting their beliefs. People respect Trump for following through with some of his policies, but they still disagree with the policy itself.
:I had prepared a different response but you have since modified your wording, thus rendering most of my response meaningless.
:[[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 15:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

::O.K. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that most people thought that respecting a person isn't the same as respecting their beliefs. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 15:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

== About the content of Boywiki ==

When I stated, "I don't really see anything that condones adult-child sexual activity" in my earlier post, the material here can create an atmosphere that makes people more likely to offend, since many of the articles share the view that adult-child sexual activities are not always harmful. This isn't true, I am sorry to say this. I don't want to have anything remotely to do with this viewpoint. That's why I want to have nothing to do with Boywiki. I just wanted to clarify myself. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:44, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
:This view is incorrect. The material here does not make people more likely to offend at all. No one is going to go out and have sex with a minor, and when questioned say "I read on BoyWiki that it's not always harmful so I thought I'd give it a go." People aren't that stupid, and your belief that they are is quite frankly offensive to every BL who has self-control. The content here is primarily factual, and your choosing not to believe them is a display of not being open-minded. There is a study out of Switzerland that concluded the use of child pornography does not encourage contact-offences ([https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-9-43 Source]). I suggest you read it and then re-evaluate how the content here could make people more likely to offend when child pornography doesn't.
:You have had since October to discontinue logging in, when you first stated your intentions to leave. You keep returning, so evidently either you want some sort of discussion or you like trying to shut us down by telling us we're wrong about something you have no evidence to support. I understand your beliefs, and I respect you for sticking to them. Now you should hold yourself to your word and leave, since you've made clear you want nothing to do with us. The best way you can achieve having nothing to do with us is by not logging in and not responding to messages further to your latest. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 22:51, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
::I will make sure to keep to my word. I just wanted to say one more thing before I go. Sorry for my ignorance. You are right. The content here won't make it more likely for people to offend and I was wrong to think that. Please forgive me. And sorry for being rude. In what I said before (where I was wrong), I was not accusing Boywiki of doing anything wrong, nor did I want to try to shut down Boywiki. After this, I'm leaving for good. I have nothing against anyone here and I am sorry that I offended you. and thank you for being patient and understanding to me when I wasn't always. After this, I will say nothing more. Lister34 (talk) [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]])

== A request to make some edits in my stead ==

Hello, FalseAlias. I hope you're doing well. Normally I would make these edits myself, but, long story short, this alternative seems better than dealing with my OCD at the current time.

I would be very thankful if you could do me the favor of changing the title of the following page by adding the words "Medieval" and "Persian", so that it reads "(BLSB) - The Medieval Persian Sufi Ritual Practice..." and so on.

https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Sufi_Ritual_Practice_of_%22Sh%C4%81hid-B%C4%81z%C4%AB%22,_the_Contemplation_of_Handsome_Beardless_Youths,_as_Featured_in_Two_Anecdotes_from_the_Anonymous_Hagiography_of_Fakhr_al-D%C4%ABn_%CA%BFIr%C4%81q%C4%AB

Also, it would be great if you could create a page with the following title:

(BLSB) - The Categories of Same-Sex Male Eroticism in Ottoman Turkish Literature, as Featured in 'Repeller of Sorrows and Remover of Cares' by Deli Birader Gazali

The content of it would be the following (I will add the excerpt itself later):

From "From the Pervert, Back to the Beloved: Homosexuality and Ottoman Literary History, 1453–1923" by Abdulhamit Arvas, in The Cambridge History of Gay and Lesbian Literature, edited by E. L. McCallum and Mikko Tuhkanen (Cambridge; New York: Cambridge University Press, 2014). Footnote omitted.

Thanks for your attention, and sorry for the trouble. [[User:Dandelion|Dandelion]] ([[User talk:Dandelion|talk]]) 08:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

:: Hi Dandelion, I echo the well wishes back to you as well. I hope you've been doing okay.
:: Per your request, I've renamed the Sufi Ritual page to add Medieval Persian to its title and have created the page on categories of same-sex male eroticism in Ottoman Turkish literature. For convenience, I'll link the new page below to make it a little faster for you to get to when you're ready to insert the excerpt.
:: https://www.boywiki.org/en/(BLSB)_-_The_Categories_of_Same-Sex_Male_Eroticism_in_Ottoman_Turkish_Literature,_as_Featured_in_%27Repeller_of_Sorrows_and_Remover_of_Cares%27_by_Deli_Birader_Gazali
:: It was no trouble, so don't worry about it. Thank you for feeling me an appropriate person to approach on this. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 19:34, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

BoyPlanet

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FalseAlias: /* History */ Updated citation and info Re. status checker and generic history.

'''BoyPlanet''' (other names: BoyPlanet.net, Boy Planet, BPN, BPn) is an [[online message board]] primarily for [[boylover]]s founded in November 2017. It is noted to have an almost identical landing page to [[BoyLover.net]].

Unlike traditional boards, BPN does not permit the use of emails at any point. Members who register cannot enter in or utilise an email account. As a result of this both password recovery and username changes are not available to any board member, including staff.<ref>[https://boyplanet.net/bpn/index.php?action=register Registration Agreement] Retrieved on April 27, 2018</ref>

There are various forums in the main board for subjects of interest to boylovers, in addition to galleries. The site features forums in several languages, including German and Spanish. There is also a small section of forums dedicated to [[girllover]]s, titled GirlPlanet.

While BoyPlanet shares a theme identical to that of the now-defunct [[BoyLover.net]], the two sites are not associated with one another.

==History==

The original BoyPlanet was created in 2009 as a space-themed boylove forum. It was short-lived and shut down within the year by its owner, who was using an unknown alias at the time.<ref name="interview_damien">[https://boyplanet.net/bpnmd/interview.php?with=Damien%202019-11 Interview with Damien > BPNMD]</ref>

In late 2017, BPN's founder recognised a need for another board in the community and decided to recreate his former site. In doing so, he decided to borrow the theme of BoyLover.net. It was proven to work, owing to BLN's success, and would be familiar for older community members. The new site started development on October 24, 2017, and was released to the public on December 1, 2017, after just over a month of development work by Damien, Underdog, and several other BPN staff members.<ref name="interview_damien /> Most of this period of time was spent setting up the forums and themes to closely match those of BoyLover.net, and removing all email functionality from the forum software.

BPN appeared on [[BoyLinks]] on December 31, 2017.

On March 9, 2018, BPN started hosting a status checker developed by FalseAlias for Ethos Magazine. Though initially developed for Ethos, in April 2020 Ethos discontinued its hosting of the status checker as the project was shut down.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> Ethos re-opened later in 2020, but no longer hosted a status checker.<ref name="revive">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Re: Ping Zoomzoom4 re ETHOS 2020-July-13 17:48:53, Monday] Retrived January 29, 2021. [http://web.archive.org/web/20210129174546/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1547433.htm Archived January 29, 2021]</ref> The status checker network currently consists of two status checkers, with the other hosted by [[boyland_on_line|boylandonline.com]].

In December 2018, BPN changed its minimum age requirement from 16 to 18.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==

*[[BoyLover.net]]

==External links==

*[https://boyplanet.net/ BoyPlanet's website]

[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Talk:Cebuano language

2020-12-22T05:50:37Z

FalseAlias: /* Page deletion? */ keep forgetting discussion signature.

==Useful phrases==
That is inappropriate for BoyWiki. You should know that! This is your first and last warning! --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

== Page deletion? ==

This page serves no purpose on BoyWiki. It adds nothing relevant to boylove and has no place here. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 05:50, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Cebuano language

2020-12-22T05:50:23Z

FalseAlias: /* Page deletion? */ new section

Talk:Main Page

2020-12-22T05:46:28Z

FalseAlias: /* Featured Article re. IBLD */

"submit your entry it by" S/B "submit your entry by"

== This link to "New pages" is not working. ==

I can prove to you (if you don't believe that I am an "authority," and if you ''insist'' that I take time out from much more important things to do so) that the following link is ''not'' being followed very often (or perhaps, not at all) by visitors to BoyWiki.
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/Special:NewPages

I suggest that it should go higher up on the page, maybe just under the "Featured article" link, or the link should be made more prominent in some other way. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

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On the main page: https://www.boywiki.org/en/Main_Page

If you try to click on the internal links found on the left hand side menu, they can not be clicked on, the font is a little smaller than in other pages. This only happens on the main page, after you move to other pages it all works fine, it appears as if the template for the main page had a small error somewhere (I use the Brave browser based on Chrome). --[[User:Eskimo|Eskimo]] ([[User talk:Eskimo|talk]]) 07:22, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

== Featured Article re. IBLD ==

Perhaps the dates it displays (Dec 15, Dec 21) would be better if they were accurate. This year's Saturday date was Dec 19, not Dec 15. However, the Solstice date was correct. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 05:46, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page

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FalseAlias: /* Featured Article re. IBLD */ new section

International Boylove Day

2020-12-22T02:33:31Z

FalseAlias:

[[File:82857621092e2d72.gif|600 px|center|]]


{| align="right" class="prettytable" summary="Overview of upcoming IBLD dates"
|+Upcoming IBLD Dates
|-
! colspan="2" | June 2021
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 21 June 2021
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''19 June 2021'''
|-
! colspan="2" | December 2021
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 21 December 2021
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''18 December 2021'''
|-
|}


'''International Boylove Day''', commonly referred to as '''IBLD''', is celebrated by many [[boylover]]s in the [[online boylove community]]. The celebrations began in 1998 with participants from [[Free Spirits]] and [[SafeHaven]] and is now being observed by most of the online BL communities from the [[:Category:Community|various boards and sites]]. It is a day for boylovers to come together in solidarity, to remind each other of our good and loving natures, and a day for remembrance. IBLD falls on the summer and winter solstices but in recent years is also commonly observed on the following Saturday in June and the proceeding Saturday in December.

== IBLD activities ==
[[Image:IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|175 px|right]]
The originally suggested way of observing IBLD was to leave a small blue candle in a window or a public place with a small note explaining why the candle was there. Sending anonymous notes to local newspapers was also a popularly suggested activity.

Aside from these activities, IBLD has always been a day to celebrate in personal ways. Many boylovers get together with their young friends or with other BLs for some special activity. Others spend the day online with friends, or write poems or stories. Many take the time to light a blue candle in public or in private. Others reflect on past BL friends and the boys who were once in their lives, or who are presently in their lives. Another popular suggestion for the winter solstice was to donate boy's toys to underprivileged boys or make other similar charitable donations. There is no right or wrong way to observe IBLD.

In some places, boylovers use the day to meet up and celebrate together. In the Netherlands, 50 boylovers met up at a tavern for the 2005 observance, which was a huge record.

===What Does the Blue Candle Symbolize?===
Since the 1940's, the color blue has come to represent boys of all ages.

In general, blue candles represent:

<blockquote>Communication, truth, peace, calm, wisdom, understanding, protection, harmony, inspiration, patience, health and happiness, luck, loyalty, peaceful, cooling, contentment, healing, idealism, harmony, devotion, meditation.</blockquote>

However in connection with IBLD, the blue candle can be interpreted to have several different meanings. Etenne's IBLD website (1999) stated that the blue candle symbolically represents the "dispelling of the darkness". Others have suggested that the blue candle represents the love that they feel for boys. Ultimately, the blue candle signifies whatever meaning you personally choose to assign it. Dave Riegel's IBLD web site states that with "each succeeding observance of IBLD will find us closer to that day when the present ignorance, malice, and gross injustice now accorded to loved boys and boylovers will be replaced with understanding, compassion, and fairness, a day when love will be honored and approved between any two human beings." Perhaps each blue candle lit on IBLD simply marks the time until that day.

{{clr}}

== IBLD history ==

=== Beginnings ===
[[Image:IBLD Animation1 BoyChat.gif|left|thumb|This candle image was used on BoyChat to mark the first several observances of IBLD]]
In May or June 1998, the concept of a boylove day was proposed on [[BoyChat]] and SafeHaven by [[TPKA]] [[bit]] to a mixed reception. The idea had activist overtones which has always met with resistance in the Free Spirits community. [[Babel-17]] brought it up again and eventually [[Sparks]] took up the cause and began determinedly advocating the idea of an International Boy Love Day. [[Loren]] suggested the summer solstice, which is the longest day of sunlight in the northern hemisphere. The idea was discussed on SafeHaven for a time, and the decision was made to celebrate on both solstices so that people in each hemisphere could have an equal chance of having good weather. On BoyChat there continued to be controversy over the idea even as the solstice arrived. But as stories of the first observances began to be posted, the mood changed into one of solidarity. [[IBLD Art by Scruffy Lad|Scruffy Lad presented the first of his many IBLD cards]]. On an [[Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] network, [[Ed]] invited BLs to chat in a dedicated channel for the 48 hours it was [[December 21]], [[1998]] somewhere in the world.

[[File:Etenne's IBLD page.jpg|thumb|200px|Etenne's IBLD Page ca. 2002]]
It was around this time that [[Etenne]] created an official International Boy Love Day Web site, which gave some advice on how to celebrate IBLD and also provided the actual dates of the upcoming solstice, which can vary each year between the 20th, 21st, and 22nd of June and December.

===Calculating the date===
International Boylove Day is traditionally held on the summer and winter solstice. However, many boylovers prefer to observe the day on a Saturday.

‡ In June, the Saturday date for IBLD is either on the summer solstice, or the first Saturday after it. However in December to avoid conflict with the other holidays, the Saturday date is observed either on the solstice or the first Saturday before the winter solstice.

===Disagreement===

[[Dave Riegel]], who was the principal moderator at SafeHaven, established the first IBLD site at IBLD.net on 1 July 1998, which some feel stressed the activism possibilities of the holiday. Between the December 1998 observance and June of 1999, Etenne also put up an IBLD site. IBLD continued to be primarily celebrated by a small number of boylovers who visited BoyChat and SafeHaven. Over time, there began to be disagreements about when and how IBLD should be observed.

By 2002, some boylovers felt that using the solstice was awkward because its date could change every year. Discussion during the IRC marathons was focused on IBLD, and the idea of observing on the Saturday nearest the solstice was brought up. Proponents of this idea noted that the solstice often fell on a weekday when it was difficult to plan activities with young friends and harder to get together with other BLs due to work and school. Others felt that this was prejudiced against boylovers who had no young friends, and no agreement was reached. So by December 2002 some boylovers were celebrating IBLD on the solstice and some were celebrating on the nearest Saturday. After a year, it was generally agreed upon by Saturday-celebrators to celebrate only on the Saturday following the solstice.

Some also felt that celebrating twice a year was too often, confusing, and hindering acceptance of the holiday, and wanted to change the observance to once a year. In June 2002, serious discussions about this were held during the IRC marathon. No definitive record of the result exists but it is most likely that the number of supporters of once- and twice-a-year celebrations was very close. Afterward, Dave Riegel reported that the majority of people in IRC wanted only one celebration a year during the "summer solstice" and changed his IBLD web site to reflect a single annual June celebration. This alienated both boylovers who preferred twice a year or December dates and boylovers living in the southern hemisphere, as well as posters on BoyChat who had not taken part in the IRC marathon or been informed that there would be a vote to change the celebration dates.

The controversy settled down until October 2002, when Etenne posted to BoyChat and asked whether his page should be changed to agree with the IBLD.net site for the sake of unity, or whether the community favored the tradition of celebrating on both solstices. He posted on BoyChat, [[La Garçonnière]], [[Jongensforum]], and the [[Christian Boylove Forum]] to gather votes. The results from Free Spirits boards showed that a large majority wanted to keep both days a year.
[[File:Connor YourIBLD MainPage 842x921.JPG|thumb|200 px|link= YourIBLD|[[YourIBLD]] - MainPage, Dec. 2012]]
More controversy arose around [https://www.boychat.org/messages/853891.htm 2004] and [https://www.boychat.org/messages/951399.htm 2005] on [[BoyChat]], mostly due to Etenne's IBLD site being inactive at that time, leaving Dave Riegel's IBLD.net as the only IBLD site of note left standing. The issue of whether IBLD should be celebrated on the actual solstice days, the Saturday beforehand or the Saturday following each solstice, was hotly debated once again, and the issue of whether IBLD should be limited to one day a year or two was also debated thoroughly during this time. During this time, Dave Riegel's site only recognized the Saturday following the June solstice until a poll conducted on that site in the late summer of 2005 indicated that a majority of those expressing a preference wanted the twice-a-year observance. Riegel's IBLD site was changed to reflect and explain this change.

In the ashes of this debate, BoyChat poster [[Holden]] devised a new IBLD site with help from fellow poster [[Connor]] called, "'''[[YourIBLD]]'''". The site was hosted on DareToSpeak.net and professed to be an all-inclusive site dedicated to IBLD, boylovers and boylove culture. It did not advertise an over-arching philosophy or ideology as Holden, Connor and many others felt Riegel's IBLD.net site did and advertised itself as "neutral" in these various debates, though Connor and Dave Riegel did engage in several contentious debates on BoyChat soon after the site's announcement. Unfortunately, the departure of Connor in late 2006 for unknown personal reasons, as well as the departure of Holden from active posting on BoyChat sometime before that, caused the site to be neglected until it was purged from the internet entirely after DareToSpeak.net closed its doors.

[https://www.boywiki.org/fr/Journée_internationale_de_l’amour_des_garçons#Évolution_des_règles_de_calcul The French-speaking BoyWiki mentions] a much simpler and more accurate method of calculation for the IBLD dates, that was first proposed in 2016:

:'''“The Saturday date for IBLD is the Saturday nearest from 21 June or December.”'''

With this easy and regular method, the IBLD dates always fall between 18 and 24 June or December, and as close as possible to the solstice (but never on Christmas).

==White candle protests==
A white candle, whose color represents the [[innocence of children]],<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/help-protest-ibld-june-24-2006/</ref> is sometimes used by antis in protest against IBLD.<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/in-support-of-childrens-innocence/</ref> Despite their best efforts, our candles continue to bring light to the darkness long after theirs have faded into nothingness.

==IBLD Videos==
{{Video|source=IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix.mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD candle5.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix'''}}

{{Video|source=IBLD_A_GAELIC_BLESSING_JOHN_RUTTER,_(Version_II_of_film).mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD Video:A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir'''}}

== External links ==

* [http://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-ibld-index/#top IBLD pages at Our Love Frontier]
* [http://www.boychat.org/bcd/bcd9812.html BoyChat Digest for December 1998]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2J7AXRIA-U IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8MKEpXqGko A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.

===Historical links===

* <nowiki>http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/</nowiki> - Etenne's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20030401162150/http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/
* <nowiki>http://www.etenne.8m.net/</nowiki> - Ancient IBLD Mirror belonging to Etenne. ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20070326122730/http://etenne.8m.net/
* <nowiki>http://www.ibld.net/</nowiki> - Dave Riegel's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20050410074353/http://www.ibld.net/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.nfshost.com/</nowiki> - International BoyLove Day! ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20160110004707/http://ibld.nfshost.com/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.fpc.li/</nowiki> - Let there be light by Scruffy Lad ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20080414170841/http://ibld.fpc.li/
* <nowiki>http://www.daretospeak.net/ibld/</nowiki> - Holden's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') (Not crawled copy exists in Archive.org)

==References==

{{reflist}}

[[de:IBLD]]
[[fr:Journée internationale de l’amour des garçons]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Activism]]
[[Category:Holidays]]

International Boylove Day

2020-12-22T02:33:11Z

FalseAlias: December 2021 dates.

[[File:82857621092e2d72.gif|600 px|center|]]


{| align="right" class="prettytable" summary="Overview of upcoming IBLD dates"
|+Upcoming IBLD Dates
|-
! colspan="2" | June 2021
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 21 June 2021
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''19 June 2021'''
|-
! colspan="2" | December 2020
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 21 December 2021
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''18 December 2021'''
|-
|}


'''International Boylove Day''', commonly referred to as '''IBLD''', is celebrated by many [[boylover]]s in the [[online boylove community]]. The celebrations began in 1998 with participants from [[Free Spirits]] and [[SafeHaven]] and is now being observed by most of the online BL communities from the [[:Category:Community|various boards and sites]]. It is a day for boylovers to come together in solidarity, to remind each other of our good and loving natures, and a day for remembrance. IBLD falls on the summer and winter solstices but in recent years is also commonly observed on the following Saturday in June and the proceeding Saturday in December.

== IBLD activities ==
[[Image:IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|175 px|right]]
The originally suggested way of observing IBLD was to leave a small blue candle in a window or a public place with a small note explaining why the candle was there. Sending anonymous notes to local newspapers was also a popularly suggested activity.

Aside from these activities, IBLD has always been a day to celebrate in personal ways. Many boylovers get together with their young friends or with other BLs for some special activity. Others spend the day online with friends, or write poems or stories. Many take the time to light a blue candle in public or in private. Others reflect on past BL friends and the boys who were once in their lives, or who are presently in their lives. Another popular suggestion for the winter solstice was to donate boy's toys to underprivileged boys or make other similar charitable donations. There is no right or wrong way to observe IBLD.

In some places, boylovers use the day to meet up and celebrate together. In the Netherlands, 50 boylovers met up at a tavern for the 2005 observance, which was a huge record.

===What Does the Blue Candle Symbolize?===
Since the 1940's, the color blue has come to represent boys of all ages.

In general, blue candles represent:

<blockquote>Communication, truth, peace, calm, wisdom, understanding, protection, harmony, inspiration, patience, health and happiness, luck, loyalty, peaceful, cooling, contentment, healing, idealism, harmony, devotion, meditation.</blockquote>

However in connection with IBLD, the blue candle can be interpreted to have several different meanings. Etenne's IBLD website (1999) stated that the blue candle symbolically represents the "dispelling of the darkness". Others have suggested that the blue candle represents the love that they feel for boys. Ultimately, the blue candle signifies whatever meaning you personally choose to assign it. Dave Riegel's IBLD web site states that with "each succeeding observance of IBLD will find us closer to that day when the present ignorance, malice, and gross injustice now accorded to loved boys and boylovers will be replaced with understanding, compassion, and fairness, a day when love will be honored and approved between any two human beings." Perhaps each blue candle lit on IBLD simply marks the time until that day.

{{clr}}

== IBLD history ==

=== Beginnings ===
[[Image:IBLD Animation1 BoyChat.gif|left|thumb|This candle image was used on BoyChat to mark the first several observances of IBLD]]
In May or June 1998, the concept of a boylove day was proposed on [[BoyChat]] and SafeHaven by [[TPKA]] [[bit]] to a mixed reception. The idea had activist overtones which has always met with resistance in the Free Spirits community. [[Babel-17]] brought it up again and eventually [[Sparks]] took up the cause and began determinedly advocating the idea of an International Boy Love Day. [[Loren]] suggested the summer solstice, which is the longest day of sunlight in the northern hemisphere. The idea was discussed on SafeHaven for a time, and the decision was made to celebrate on both solstices so that people in each hemisphere could have an equal chance of having good weather. On BoyChat there continued to be controversy over the idea even as the solstice arrived. But as stories of the first observances began to be posted, the mood changed into one of solidarity. [[IBLD Art by Scruffy Lad|Scruffy Lad presented the first of his many IBLD cards]]. On an [[Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] network, [[Ed]] invited BLs to chat in a dedicated channel for the 48 hours it was [[December 21]], [[1998]] somewhere in the world.

[[File:Etenne's IBLD page.jpg|thumb|200px|Etenne's IBLD Page ca. 2002]]
It was around this time that [[Etenne]] created an official International Boy Love Day Web site, which gave some advice on how to celebrate IBLD and also provided the actual dates of the upcoming solstice, which can vary each year between the 20th, 21st, and 22nd of June and December.

===Calculating the date===
International Boylove Day is traditionally held on the summer and winter solstice. However, many boylovers prefer to observe the day on a Saturday.

‡ In June, the Saturday date for IBLD is either on the summer solstice, or the first Saturday after it. However in December to avoid conflict with the other holidays, the Saturday date is observed either on the solstice or the first Saturday before the winter solstice.

===Disagreement===

[[Dave Riegel]], who was the principal moderator at SafeHaven, established the first IBLD site at IBLD.net on 1 July 1998, which some feel stressed the activism possibilities of the holiday. Between the December 1998 observance and June of 1999, Etenne also put up an IBLD site. IBLD continued to be primarily celebrated by a small number of boylovers who visited BoyChat and SafeHaven. Over time, there began to be disagreements about when and how IBLD should be observed.

By 2002, some boylovers felt that using the solstice was awkward because its date could change every year. Discussion during the IRC marathons was focused on IBLD, and the idea of observing on the Saturday nearest the solstice was brought up. Proponents of this idea noted that the solstice often fell on a weekday when it was difficult to plan activities with young friends and harder to get together with other BLs due to work and school. Others felt that this was prejudiced against boylovers who had no young friends, and no agreement was reached. So by December 2002 some boylovers were celebrating IBLD on the solstice and some were celebrating on the nearest Saturday. After a year, it was generally agreed upon by Saturday-celebrators to celebrate only on the Saturday following the solstice.

Some also felt that celebrating twice a year was too often, confusing, and hindering acceptance of the holiday, and wanted to change the observance to once a year. In June 2002, serious discussions about this were held during the IRC marathon. No definitive record of the result exists but it is most likely that the number of supporters of once- and twice-a-year celebrations was very close. Afterward, Dave Riegel reported that the majority of people in IRC wanted only one celebration a year during the "summer solstice" and changed his IBLD web site to reflect a single annual June celebration. This alienated both boylovers who preferred twice a year or December dates and boylovers living in the southern hemisphere, as well as posters on BoyChat who had not taken part in the IRC marathon or been informed that there would be a vote to change the celebration dates.

The controversy settled down until October 2002, when Etenne posted to BoyChat and asked whether his page should be changed to agree with the IBLD.net site for the sake of unity, or whether the community favored the tradition of celebrating on both solstices. He posted on BoyChat, [[La Garçonnière]], [[Jongensforum]], and the [[Christian Boylove Forum]] to gather votes. The results from Free Spirits boards showed that a large majority wanted to keep both days a year.
[[File:Connor YourIBLD MainPage 842x921.JPG|thumb|200 px|link= YourIBLD|[[YourIBLD]] - MainPage, Dec. 2012]]
More controversy arose around [https://www.boychat.org/messages/853891.htm 2004] and [https://www.boychat.org/messages/951399.htm 2005] on [[BoyChat]], mostly due to Etenne's IBLD site being inactive at that time, leaving Dave Riegel's IBLD.net as the only IBLD site of note left standing. The issue of whether IBLD should be celebrated on the actual solstice days, the Saturday beforehand or the Saturday following each solstice, was hotly debated once again, and the issue of whether IBLD should be limited to one day a year or two was also debated thoroughly during this time. During this time, Dave Riegel's site only recognized the Saturday following the June solstice until a poll conducted on that site in the late summer of 2005 indicated that a majority of those expressing a preference wanted the twice-a-year observance. Riegel's IBLD site was changed to reflect and explain this change.

In the ashes of this debate, BoyChat poster [[Holden]] devised a new IBLD site with help from fellow poster [[Connor]] called, "'''[[YourIBLD]]'''". The site was hosted on DareToSpeak.net and professed to be an all-inclusive site dedicated to IBLD, boylovers and boylove culture. It did not advertise an over-arching philosophy or ideology as Holden, Connor and many others felt Riegel's IBLD.net site did and advertised itself as "neutral" in these various debates, though Connor and Dave Riegel did engage in several contentious debates on BoyChat soon after the site's announcement. Unfortunately, the departure of Connor in late 2006 for unknown personal reasons, as well as the departure of Holden from active posting on BoyChat sometime before that, caused the site to be neglected until it was purged from the internet entirely after DareToSpeak.net closed its doors.

[https://www.boywiki.org/fr/Journée_internationale_de_l’amour_des_garçons#Évolution_des_règles_de_calcul The French-speaking BoyWiki mentions] a much simpler and more accurate method of calculation for the IBLD dates, that was first proposed in 2016:

:'''“The Saturday date for IBLD is the Saturday nearest from 21 June or December.”'''

With this easy and regular method, the IBLD dates always fall between 18 and 24 June or December, and as close as possible to the solstice (but never on Christmas).

==White candle protests==
A white candle, whose color represents the [[innocence of children]],<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/help-protest-ibld-june-24-2006/</ref> is sometimes used by antis in protest against IBLD.<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/in-support-of-childrens-innocence/</ref> Despite their best efforts, our candles continue to bring light to the darkness long after theirs have faded into nothingness.

==IBLD Videos==
{{Video|source=IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix.mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD candle5.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix'''}}

{{Video|source=IBLD_A_GAELIC_BLESSING_JOHN_RUTTER,_(Version_II_of_film).mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD Video:A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir'''}}

== External links ==

* [http://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-ibld-index/#top IBLD pages at Our Love Frontier]
* [http://www.boychat.org/bcd/bcd9812.html BoyChat Digest for December 1998]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2J7AXRIA-U IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8MKEpXqGko A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.

===Historical links===

* <nowiki>http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/</nowiki> - Etenne's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20030401162150/http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/
* <nowiki>http://www.etenne.8m.net/</nowiki> - Ancient IBLD Mirror belonging to Etenne. ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20070326122730/http://etenne.8m.net/
* <nowiki>http://www.ibld.net/</nowiki> - Dave Riegel's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20050410074353/http://www.ibld.net/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.nfshost.com/</nowiki> - International BoyLove Day! ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20160110004707/http://ibld.nfshost.com/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.fpc.li/</nowiki> - Let there be light by Scruffy Lad ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20080414170841/http://ibld.fpc.li/
* <nowiki>http://www.daretospeak.net/ibld/</nowiki> - Holden's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') (Not crawled copy exists in Archive.org)

==References==

{{reflist}}

[[de:IBLD]]
[[fr:Journée internationale de l’amour des garçons]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Activism]]
[[Category:Holidays]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-12-19T15:44:41Z

FalseAlias: misplacement of section, corrected.

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community. It is currently the only boylove related magazine in publication.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9 released on December 15, and superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.

===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and reworks before a design was agreed on.

Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news that would be updated every Saturday. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethos-online.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-12-19T15:42:55Z

FalseAlias: Relevant portions of history should not be removed, Zoom. Fix it before I do.

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community. It is currently the only boylove related magazine in publication.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9 released on December 15, and superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.

===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and reworks before a design was agreed on.

Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news that would be updated every Saturday. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethos-online.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

International Boylove Day

2020-12-19T15:38:52Z

FalseAlias: June 2021 dates.

[[File:82857621092e2d72.gif|600 px|center|]]


{| align="right" class="prettytable" summary="Overview of upcoming IBLD dates"
|+Upcoming IBLD Dates
|-
! colspan="2" | June 2021
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 21 June 2021
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''19 June 2021'''
|-
! colspan="2" | December 2020
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 21 December 2020
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''19 December 2020'''
|-
|}


'''International Boylove Day''', commonly referred to as '''IBLD''', is celebrated by many [[boylover]]s in the [[online boylove community]]. The celebrations began in 1998 with participants from [[Free Spirits]] and [[SafeHaven]] and is now being observed by most of the online BL communities from the [[:Category:Community|various boards and sites]]. It is a day for boylovers to come together in solidarity, to remind each other of our good and loving natures, and a day for remembrance. IBLD falls on the summer and winter solstices but in recent years is also commonly observed on the following Saturday in June and the proceeding Saturday in December.

== IBLD activities ==
[[Image:IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|175 px|right]]
The originally suggested way of observing IBLD was to leave a small blue candle in a window or a public place with a small note explaining why the candle was there. Sending anonymous notes to local newspapers was also a popularly suggested activity.

Aside from these activities, IBLD has always been a day to celebrate in personal ways. Many boylovers get together with their young friends or with other BLs for some special activity. Others spend the day online with friends, or write poems or stories. Many take the time to light a blue candle in public or in private. Others reflect on past BL friends and the boys who were once in their lives, or who are presently in their lives. Another popular suggestion for the winter solstice was to donate boy's toys to underprivileged boys or make other similar charitable donations. There is no right or wrong way to observe IBLD.

In some places, boylovers use the day to meet up and celebrate together. In the Netherlands, 50 boylovers met up at a tavern for the 2005 observance, which was a huge record.

===What Does the Blue Candle Symbolize?===
Since the 1940's, the color blue has come to represent boys of all ages.

In general, blue candles represent:

<blockquote>Communication, truth, peace, calm, wisdom, understanding, protection, harmony, inspiration, patience, health and happiness, luck, loyalty, peaceful, cooling, contentment, healing, idealism, harmony, devotion, meditation.</blockquote>

However in connection with IBLD, the blue candle can be interpreted to have several different meanings. Etenne's IBLD website (1999) stated that the blue candle symbolically represents the "dispelling of the darkness". Others have suggested that the blue candle represents the love that they feel for boys. Ultimately, the blue candle signifies whatever meaning you personally choose to assign it. Dave Riegel's IBLD web site states that with "each succeeding observance of IBLD will find us closer to that day when the present ignorance, malice, and gross injustice now accorded to loved boys and boylovers will be replaced with understanding, compassion, and fairness, a day when love will be honored and approved between any two human beings." Perhaps each blue candle lit on IBLD simply marks the time until that day.

{{clr}}

== IBLD history ==

=== Beginnings ===
[[Image:IBLD Animation1 BoyChat.gif|left|thumb|This candle image was used on BoyChat to mark the first several observances of IBLD]]
In May or June 1998, the concept of a boylove day was proposed on [[BoyChat]] and SafeHaven by [[TPKA]] [[bit]] to a mixed reception. The idea had activist overtones which has always met with resistance in the Free Spirits community. [[Babel-17]] brought it up again and eventually [[Sparks]] took up the cause and began determinedly advocating the idea of an International Boy Love Day. [[Loren]] suggested the summer solstice, which is the longest day of sunlight in the northern hemisphere. The idea was discussed on SafeHaven for a time, and the decision was made to celebrate on both solstices so that people in each hemisphere could have an equal chance of having good weather. On BoyChat there continued to be controversy over the idea even as the solstice arrived. But as stories of the first observances began to be posted, the mood changed into one of solidarity. [[IBLD Art by Scruffy Lad|Scruffy Lad presented the first of his many IBLD cards]]. On an [[Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] network, [[Ed]] invited BLs to chat in a dedicated channel for the 48 hours it was [[December 21]], [[1998]] somewhere in the world.

[[File:Etenne's IBLD page.jpg|thumb|200px|Etenne's IBLD Page ca. 2002]]
It was around this time that [[Etenne]] created an official International Boy Love Day Web site, which gave some advice on how to celebrate IBLD and also provided the actual dates of the upcoming solstice, which can vary each year between the 20th, 21st, and 22nd of June and December.

===Calculating the date===
International Boylove Day is traditionally held on the summer and winter solstice. However, many boylovers prefer to observe the day on a Saturday.

‡ In June, the Saturday date for IBLD is either on the summer solstice, or the first Saturday after it. However in December to avoid conflict with the other holidays, the Saturday date is observed either on the solstice or the first Saturday before the winter solstice.

===Disagreement===

[[Dave Riegel]], who was the principal moderator at SafeHaven, established the first IBLD site at IBLD.net on 1 July 1998, which some feel stressed the activism possibilities of the holiday. Between the December 1998 observance and June of 1999, Etenne also put up an IBLD site. IBLD continued to be primarily celebrated by a small number of boylovers who visited BoyChat and SafeHaven. Over time, there began to be disagreements about when and how IBLD should be observed.

By 2002, some boylovers felt that using the solstice was awkward because its date could change every year. Discussion during the IRC marathons was focused on IBLD, and the idea of observing on the Saturday nearest the solstice was brought up. Proponents of this idea noted that the solstice often fell on a weekday when it was difficult to plan activities with young friends and harder to get together with other BLs due to work and school. Others felt that this was prejudiced against boylovers who had no young friends, and no agreement was reached. So by December 2002 some boylovers were celebrating IBLD on the solstice and some were celebrating on the nearest Saturday. After a year, it was generally agreed upon by Saturday-celebrators to celebrate only on the Saturday following the solstice.

Some also felt that celebrating twice a year was too often, confusing, and hindering acceptance of the holiday, and wanted to change the observance to once a year. In June 2002, serious discussions about this were held during the IRC marathon. No definitive record of the result exists but it is most likely that the number of supporters of once- and twice-a-year celebrations was very close. Afterward, Dave Riegel reported that the majority of people in IRC wanted only one celebration a year during the "summer solstice" and changed his IBLD web site to reflect a single annual June celebration. This alienated both boylovers who preferred twice a year or December dates and boylovers living in the southern hemisphere, as well as posters on BoyChat who had not taken part in the IRC marathon or been informed that there would be a vote to change the celebration dates.

The controversy settled down until October 2002, when Etenne posted to BoyChat and asked whether his page should be changed to agree with the IBLD.net site for the sake of unity, or whether the community favored the tradition of celebrating on both solstices. He posted on BoyChat, [[La Garçonnière]], [[Jongensforum]], and the [[Christian Boylove Forum]] to gather votes. The results from Free Spirits boards showed that a large majority wanted to keep both days a year.
[[File:Connor YourIBLD MainPage 842x921.JPG|thumb|200 px|link= YourIBLD|[[YourIBLD]] - MainPage, Dec. 2012]]
More controversy arose around [https://www.boychat.org/messages/853891.htm 2004] and [https://www.boychat.org/messages/951399.htm 2005] on [[BoyChat]], mostly due to Etenne's IBLD site being inactive at that time, leaving Dave Riegel's IBLD.net as the only IBLD site of note left standing. The issue of whether IBLD should be celebrated on the actual solstice days, the Saturday beforehand or the Saturday following each solstice, was hotly debated once again, and the issue of whether IBLD should be limited to one day a year or two was also debated thoroughly during this time. During this time, Dave Riegel's site only recognized the Saturday following the June solstice until a poll conducted on that site in the late summer of 2005 indicated that a majority of those expressing a preference wanted the twice-a-year observance. Riegel's IBLD site was changed to reflect and explain this change.

In the ashes of this debate, BoyChat poster [[Holden]] devised a new IBLD site with help from fellow poster [[Connor]] called, "'''[[YourIBLD]]'''". The site was hosted on DareToSpeak.net and professed to be an all-inclusive site dedicated to IBLD, boylovers and boylove culture. It did not advertise an over-arching philosophy or ideology as Holden, Connor and many others felt Riegel's IBLD.net site did and advertised itself as "neutral" in these various debates, though Connor and Dave Riegel did engage in several contentious debates on BoyChat soon after the site's announcement. Unfortunately, the departure of Connor in late 2006 for unknown personal reasons, as well as the departure of Holden from active posting on BoyChat sometime before that, caused the site to be neglected until it was purged from the internet entirely after DareToSpeak.net closed its doors.

[https://www.boywiki.org/fr/Journée_internationale_de_l’amour_des_garçons#Évolution_des_règles_de_calcul The French-speaking BoyWiki mentions] a much simpler and more accurate method of calculation for the IBLD dates, that was first proposed in 2016:

:'''“The Saturday date for IBLD is the Saturday nearest from 21 June or December.”'''

With this easy and regular method, the IBLD dates always fall between 18 and 24 June or December, and as close as possible to the solstice (but never on Christmas).

==White candle protests==
A white candle, whose color represents the [[innocence of children]],<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/help-protest-ibld-june-24-2006/</ref> is sometimes used by antis in protest against IBLD.<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/in-support-of-childrens-innocence/</ref> Despite their best efforts, our candles continue to bring light to the darkness long after theirs have faded into nothingness.

==IBLD Videos==
{{Video|source=IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix.mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD candle5.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix'''}}

{{Video|source=IBLD_A_GAELIC_BLESSING_JOHN_RUTTER,_(Version_II_of_film).mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD Video:A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir'''}}

== External links ==

* [http://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-ibld-index/#top IBLD pages at Our Love Frontier]
* [http://www.boychat.org/bcd/bcd9812.html BoyChat Digest for December 1998]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2J7AXRIA-U IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8MKEpXqGko A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.

===Historical links===

* <nowiki>http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/</nowiki> - Etenne's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20030401162150/http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/
* <nowiki>http://www.etenne.8m.net/</nowiki> - Ancient IBLD Mirror belonging to Etenne. ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20070326122730/http://etenne.8m.net/
* <nowiki>http://www.ibld.net/</nowiki> - Dave Riegel's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20050410074353/http://www.ibld.net/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.nfshost.com/</nowiki> - International BoyLove Day! ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20160110004707/http://ibld.nfshost.com/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.fpc.li/</nowiki> - Let there be light by Scruffy Lad ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20080414170841/http://ibld.fpc.li/
* <nowiki>http://www.daretospeak.net/ibld/</nowiki> - Holden's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') (Not crawled copy exists in Archive.org)

==References==

{{reflist}}

[[de:IBLD]]
[[fr:Journée internationale de l’amour des garçons]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Activism]]
[[Category:Holidays]]

International Boylove Day

2020-05-31T22:16:12Z

FalseAlias: IBLD dates 2020.

[[File:82857621092e2d72.gif|600 px|center|]]


{| align="right" class="prettytable" summary="Overview of upcoming IBLD dates"
|+Upcoming IBLD Dates
|-
! colspan="2" | June 2020
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 20 June 2020
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''20 June 2020'''
|-
! colspan="2" | December 2020
|-
| Solstice Date:
| 21 December 2020
|-
| Saturday Date:
| [[International_Boylove_Day#Calculating_the_date|‡]]'''19 December 2020'''
|-
|}


'''International Boylove Day''', commonly referred to as '''IBLD''', is celebrated by many [[boylover]]s in the [[online boylove community]]. The celebrations began in 1998 with participants from [[Free Spirits]] and [[SafeHaven]] and is now being observed by most of the online BL communities from the [[:Category:Community|various boards and sites]]. It is a day for boylovers to come together in solidarity, to remind each other of our good and loving natures, and a day for remembrance. IBLD falls on the summer and winter solstices but in recent years is also commonly observed on the following Saturday in June and the proceeding Saturday in December.

== IBLD activities ==
[[Image:IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|175 px|right]]
The originally suggested way of observing IBLD was to leave a small blue candle in a window or a public place with a small note explaining why the candle was there. Sending anonymous notes to local newspapers was also a popularly suggested activity.

Aside from these activities, IBLD has always been a day to celebrate in personal ways. Many boylovers get together with their young friends or with other BLs for some special activity. Others spend the day online with friends, or write poems or stories. Many take the time to light a blue candle in public or in private. Others reflect on past BL friends and the boys who were once in their lives, or who are presently in their lives. Another popular suggestion for the winter solstice was to donate boy's toys to underprivileged boys or make other similar charitable donations. There is no right or wrong way to observe IBLD.

In some places, boylovers use the day to meet up and celebrate together. In the Netherlands, 50 boylovers met up at a tavern for the 2005 observance, which was a huge record.

===What Does the Blue Candle Symbolize?===
Since the 1940's, the color blue has come to represent boys of all ages.

In general, blue candles represent:

<blockquote>Communication, truth, peace, calm, wisdom, understanding, protection, harmony, inspiration, patience, health and happiness, luck, loyalty, peaceful, cooling, contentment, healing, idealism, harmony, devotion, meditation.</blockquote>

However in connection with IBLD, the blue candle can be interpreted to have several different meanings. Etenne's IBLD website (1999) stated that the blue candle symbolically represents the "dispelling of the darkness". Others have suggested that the blue candle represents the love that they feel for boys. Ultimately, the blue candle signifies whatever meaning you personally choose to assign it. Dave Riegel's IBLD web site states that with "each succeeding observance of IBLD will find us closer to that day when the present ignorance, malice, and gross injustice now accorded to loved boys and boylovers will be replaced with understanding, compassion, and fairness, a day when love will be honored and approved between any two human beings." Perhaps each blue candle lit on IBLD simply marks the time until that day.

{{clr}}

== IBLD history ==

=== Beginnings ===
[[Image:IBLD Animation1 BoyChat.gif|left|thumb|This candle image was used on BoyChat to mark the first several observances of IBLD]]
In May or June 1998, the concept of a boylove day was proposed on [[BoyChat]] and SafeHaven by [[TPKA]] [[bit]] to a mixed reception. The idea had activist overtones which has always met with resistance in the Free Spirits community. [[Babel-17]] brought it up again and eventually [[Sparks]] took up the cause and began determinedly advocating the idea of an International Boy Love Day. [[Loren]] suggested the summer solstice, which is the longest day of sunlight in the northern hemisphere. The idea was discussed on SafeHaven for a time, and the decision was made to celebrate on both solstices so that people in each hemisphere could have an equal chance of having good weather. On BoyChat there continued to be controversy over the idea even as the solstice arrived. But as stories of the first observances began to be posted, the mood changed into one of solidarity. [[IBLD Art by Scruffy Lad|Scruffy Lad presented the first of his many IBLD cards]]. On an [[Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] network, [[Ed]] invited BLs to chat in a dedicated channel for the 48 hours it was [[December 21]], [[1998]] somewhere in the world.

[[File:Etenne's IBLD page.jpg|thumb|200px|Etenne's IBLD Page ca. 2002]]
It was around this time that [[Etenne]] created an official International Boy Love Day Web site, which gave some advice on how to celebrate IBLD and also provided the actual dates of the upcoming solstice, which can vary each year between the 20th, 21st, and 22nd of June and December.

===Calculating the date===
International Boylove Day is traditionally held on the summer and winter solstice. However, many boylovers prefer to observe the day on a Saturday.

‡ In June, the Saturday date for IBLD is either on the summer solstice, or the first Saturday after it. However in December to avoid conflict with the other holidays, the Saturday date is observed either on the solstice or the first Saturday before the winter solstice.

===Disagreement===

[[Dave Riegel]], who was the principal moderator at SafeHaven, established the first IBLD site at IBLD.net on 1 July 1998, which some feel stressed the activism possibilities of the holiday. Between the December 1998 observance and June of 1999, Etenne also put up an IBLD site. IBLD continued to be primarily celebrated by a small number of boylovers who visited BoyChat and SafeHaven. Over time, there began to be disagreements about when and how IBLD should be observed.

By 2002, some boylovers felt that using the solstice was awkward because its date could change every year. Discussion during the IRC marathons was focused on IBLD, and the idea of observing on the Saturday nearest the solstice was brought up. Proponents of this idea noted that the solstice often fell on a weekday when it was difficult to plan activities with young friends and harder to get together with other BLs due to work and school. Others felt that this was prejudiced against boylovers who had no young friends, and no agreement was reached. So by December 2002 some boylovers were celebrating IBLD on the solstice and some were celebrating on the nearest Saturday. After a year, it was generally agreed upon by Saturday-celebrators to celebrate only on the Saturday following the solstice.

Some also felt that celebrating twice a year was too often, confusing, and hindering acceptance of the holiday, and wanted to change the observance to once a year. In June 2002, serious discussions about this were held during the IRC marathon. No definitive record of the result exists but it is most likely that the number of supporters of once- and twice-a-year celebrations was very close. Afterward, Dave Riegel reported that the majority of people in IRC wanted only one celebration a year during the "summer solstice" and changed his IBLD web site to reflect a single annual June celebration. This alienated both boylovers who preferred twice a year or December dates and boylovers living in the southern hemisphere, as well as posters on BoyChat who had not taken part in the IRC marathon or been informed that there would be a vote to change the celebration dates.

The controversy settled down until October 2002, when Etenne posted to BoyChat and asked whether his page should be changed to agree with the IBLD.net site for the sake of unity, or whether the community favored the tradition of celebrating on both solstices. He posted on BoyChat, [[La Garçonnière]], [[Jongensforum]], and the [[Christian Boylove Forum]] to gather votes. The results from Free Spirits boards showed that a large majority wanted to keep both days a year.
[[File:Connor YourIBLD MainPage 842x921.JPG|thumb|200 px|link= YourIBLD|[[YourIBLD]] - MainPage, Dec. 2012]]
More controversy arose around [https://www.boychat.org/messages/853891.htm 2004] and [https://www.boychat.org/messages/951399.htm 2005] on [[BoyChat]], mostly due to Etenne's IBLD site being inactive at that time, leaving Dave Riegel's IBLD.net as the only IBLD site of note left standing. The issue of whether IBLD should be celebrated on the actual solstice days, the Saturday beforehand or the Saturday following each solstice, was hotly debated once again, and the issue of whether IBLD should be limited to one day a year or two was also debated thoroughly during this time. During this time, Dave Riegel's site only recognized the Saturday following the June solstice until a poll conducted on that site in the late summer of 2005 indicated that a majority of those expressing a preference wanted the twice-a-year observance. Riegel's IBLD site was changed to reflect and explain this change.

In the ashes of this debate, BoyChat poster [[Holden]] devised a new IBLD site with help from fellow poster [[Connor]] called, "'''[[YourIBLD]]'''". The site was hosted on DareToSpeak.net and professed to be an all-inclusive site dedicated to IBLD, boylovers and boylove culture. It did not advertise an over-arching philosophy or ideology as Holden, Connor and many others felt Riegel's IBLD.net site did and advertised itself as "neutral" in these various debates, though Connor and Dave Riegel did engage in several contentious debates on BoyChat soon after the site's announcement. Unfortunately, the departure of Connor in late 2006 for unknown personal reasons, as well as the departure of Holden from active posting on BoyChat sometime before that, caused the site to be neglected until it was purged from the internet entirely after DareToSpeak.net closed its doors.

==White candle protests==
A white candle, whose color represents the [[innocence of children]],<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/help-protest-ibld-june-24-2006/</ref> is sometimes used by antis in protest against IBLD.<ref>https://antipaedo.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/in-support-of-childrens-innocence/</ref> Despite their best efforts, our candles continue to bring light to the darkness long after theirs have faded into nothingness.

==IBLD Videos==
{{Video|source=IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix.mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD candle5.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix'''}}

{{Video|source=IBLD_A_GAELIC_BLESSING_JOHN_RUTTER,_(Version_II_of_film).mp4 ‎|largeur=40%|position= gauche|poster=IBLD Blue candle2.jpg|control=1|'''IBLD Video:A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir'''}}

== External links ==

* [http://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-ibld-index/#top IBLD pages at Our Love Frontier]
* [http://www.boychat.org/bcd/bcd9812.html BoyChat Digest for December 1998]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2J7AXRIA-U IBLD 2008 Video Beautiful Day Remix (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8MKEpXqGko A Gaelic Blessing by John Rutter, Performed by the Cambridge Choir (YouTube)] - Google tracking! Best viewed in Incognito window.

===Historical links===

* <nowiki>http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/</nowiki> - Etenne's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20030401162150/http://www.fpc.net/sites/ibld/
* <nowiki>http://www.etenne.8m.net/</nowiki> - Ancient IBLD Mirror belonging to Etenne. ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20070326122730/http://etenne.8m.net/
* <nowiki>http://www.ibld.net/</nowiki> - Dave Riegel's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20050410074353/http://www.ibld.net/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.nfshost.com/</nowiki> - International BoyLove Day! ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20160110004707/http://ibld.nfshost.com/
* <nowiki>http://ibld.fpc.li/</nowiki> - Let there be light by Scruffy Lad ('''no longer active''') See: https://web.archive.org/web/20080414170841/http://ibld.fpc.li/
* <nowiki>http://www.daretospeak.net/ibld/</nowiki> - Holden's IBLD homepage ('''no longer active''') (Not crawled copy exists in Archive.org)

==References==

{{reflist}}

[[de:IBLD]]
[[fr:Journée internationale de l’amour des garçons]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Activism]]
[[Category:Holidays]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-04-18T03:49:17Z

FalseAlias: removal of new issue notice. there are no more new issues, ever. : (

'''Ethos Magazine''' was an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community. It ran from September 2016 to April 2020.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9 released on December 15, and superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.

On April 11, 2020, Ethos announced its immediate shutdown following the resignation of an unnamed member of staff.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> The website was disabled the following day in response to this announcement, and five days later an archive of the Ethos website, along with all issues of Ethos, MBM, and Barrilete, was made available via [[BoyPlanet]] on April 17.

===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and reworks before a design was agreed on.

Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news that would be updated every Saturday. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

On April 11, Ethos announced that there will be no further issues as the magazine would be shutting down.<ref name="shutdown" />

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website] | Currently down 2020-04-12
*[https://boyplanet.net/ethos/ Official Ethos archive] hosted on BoyPlanet.net
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-04-18T03:48:44Z

FalseAlias: various changes, plus archive link

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' was an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community. It ran from September 2016 to April 2020.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9 released on December 15, and superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.

On April 11, 2020, Ethos announced its immediate shutdown following the resignation of an unnamed member of staff.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref> The website was disabled the following day in response to this announcement, and five days later an archive of the Ethos website, along with all issues of Ethos, MBM, and Barrilete, was made available via [[BoyPlanet]] on April 17.

===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and reworks before a design was agreed on.

Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news that would be updated every Saturday. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

On April 11, Ethos announced that there will be no further issues as the magazine would be shutting down.<ref name="shutdown" />

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website] | Currently down 2020-04-12
*[https://boyplanet.net/ethos/ Official Ethos archive] hosted on BoyPlanet.net
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

User:FalseAlias

2020-04-18T03:35:50Z

FalseAlias: links

User:FalseAlias

2020-04-12T19:28:06Z

FalseAlias: grammar

I am FalseAlias.

I joined the [[boylove community]] on November 14th, 2015, and I have never regretted that decision.

I was an administrator at Boyland between December 21, 2017, and November 25, 2019.

I was a member of the Ethos team from December 2016 to April 2020. I was Editor on issue 2, Chief Editor from issues 3 to 6, Content Manager from issues 7 to 12, and Assistant Director in issue 12.

User:FalseAlias

2020-04-12T19:27:54Z

FalseAlias: updates

I am FalseAlias.

I joined the [[boylove community]] on November 14th, 2015, and I have never regretted that decision.

I was an administrator at Boyland between December 21, 2017, and November 25, 2019.

I was an member of the Ethos team from December 2016 to April 2020. I was Editor on issue 2, Chief Editor from issues 3 to 6, Content Manager from issues 7 to 12, and Assistant Director in issue 12.

Ethos (magazine)

2020-04-12T19:20:48Z

FalseAlias: /* History */ forgot a year

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' was an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community. It ran from September 2016 to April 2020.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.

On April 11, 2020, Ethos announced its immediate shutdown following the resignation of an unnamed member of staff.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref>

===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.<ref name="shutdown" />

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

On April 11, Ethos announced that there will be no further issues.

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website] | Currently down 2020-04-12
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-04-12T19:19:57Z

FalseAlias: shut-down

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' was an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community. It ran from September 2016 to April 2020.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.

On April 11, Ethos announced its immediate shutdown following the resignation of an unnamed member of staff.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref>

===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.<ref name="shutdown" />

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

On April 11, Ethos announced that there will be no further issues.

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website] | Currently down 2020-04-12
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-04-12T19:19:34Z

FalseAlias: Ethos shutdown

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' was an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community. It ran from September 2016 to April 2020.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.

On April 11, Ethos announced its immediate shutdown following the resignation of an unnamed member of staff.<ref name="shutdown">[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Ethos is Done - BoyChat 2020-April-11 10:40:00, Saturday] Retrived April 12, 2020. [http://web.archive.org/web/20200412191758/https://www.boychat.org/messages/1540764.htm Archived April 12, 2020]</ref>

===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.<ref name="shutdown" />

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

On April 11, Ethos announced that there will be no further issues.

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

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|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website] | Currently down 2020-04-12
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

User:FalseAlias

2020-04-10T16:00:03Z

FalseAlias: change of status

I am FalseAlias.

I joined the [[boylove community]] on November 14th, 2015, and I have never regretted that decision.

I was an administrator at Boyland between December 21, 2017, and November 25, 2019.

I worked with Ethos for issue 2 as an Editor, and issues 3 up to 12 as Chief Editor/Content Manager.

Talk:Etenne

2020-02-19T04:12:30Z

FalseAlias: /* Status of BoyChat, BoyLinks, and FreeSpirits sites */

==Subpages==
*[[Talk:Etenne/subpage1]]
*[[BoyWiki:Etenne's Palaestra]]
* [[User:Etenne/temp/MBM]]

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==To all users==
It would be a good idea to review this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view

In short, the neutrality of point of view leads to an objective, "scientific" discourse, whereas non-neutrality leads to one-sided views and propaganda.

An important point is perhaps to understand that specific sympathies are not incompatible with a neutral point of view: you can like a country, a person, an amorous preference, and nevertheless be able of an objective discourse about it.

Only objectivity is credible. That's why it is vital for BoyWiki. We don't "promote", we explain and illustrate. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 12:25, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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# '''Dose this have a cultural or historical [[BoyWiki:Relevance policy|relavance to boylove]]?'''
# '''By posting this are you going to make Etenne lose sleep?'''

== To all BoyWiki users:Naming ==

The convention for naming pages is that articles should be singular whereas categories should be plural.

*Names of topics and topic categories should be singular, normally corresponding to the name of a BoyWiki. article. Examples: "Law" (which represents a body of knowledge), "France", "George W. Bush".

*Names of set categories should be plural. Examples: "Writers", "Villages in Poland".

However, I am willing to hear counter arguments to this practice or suggestions before deciding what the policy should be --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 13:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

:Just yesterday I noticed that Wikipedia has categories with a singular title, e.g. [[wikipedia:Category:Vagina]]. Also, there are some plural article titles, e.g.[[wikipedia:Jews]]. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 15:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

::You can't figure out what those two (obvious, at least, to me) errors are due to? Uh... You certainly make up in glibness what you lack in perspicacity. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Enlighten me. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 03:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
::::Hey! You didn't enlighten me about what those two errors are due to. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 04:10, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

== Adding a review ==

I'm about to type in a review of Show Me! In the journal Family Counselor, off of JStor. Before putting in that effort, I wanted to be sure you had no problem with it. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 16:39, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
:So long as it is not a copyright violation and appropriately referenced, it shouldn't be a problem. You can add excerpts etc... --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 18:21, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

It is a copyright violation. Including the Show Me! preface is one. I suspect I could easily find more. I'm pretty knowledgable about copyright and my recommendation is to just ignore it, especially since you have no commercial purpose. The worst that could happen is someone sends a letter asking that something be taken down. They aren't going to use their lawyers' time with a nonprofit individual user with no money who's not selling anything. It's not worth it to them. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 02:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

== Sex offender risk assessment ==

Can you please restore [[sex offender risk assessment]] to my userspace? Maybe it can eventually be improved to a point where it's suitable for mainspace. Thanks, [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 19:47, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

== Please fix categories for Child Rescue Coalition ==

I can't figure out what I did wrong. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 12:20, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:You used the wrong brackets. I have done that before too--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 12:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

== Relevance of CPS-related issues to boylove ==

Hey Etenne,

The anti-CPS movement doesn't have a wiki yet. To what extent, if any, would you consider [http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Miscellany:Transcript_of_CPS_Whistleblower_Carlos_Morales_at_Liberty_Fest_NC this type of content] relevant to boylove? (Currently it's hosted at Mises Wiki, which will eventually go defunct because the Mises Institute's unspoken policy is to neither maintain nor destroy the wiki, and it's gradually rotting as the code becomes more and more outdated and begins to malfunction, an example being the InstantCommons which no longer works after Wikimedia's shift from http to https.)

The way I look at it, CPS is going to have a chilling effect on free speech as they take away the kids of anyone who is too outspokenly opposed to the age of consent, or who admits to having pedophilic desires. An example would be [http://nathania.org/w/images/c/c1/Piper_Morgan_Sparrow_Faye_amended_petition.pdf this petition] stating, "It has been reported that Father has pedophilic desires. . . . It is alleged that Father has posted numerous online material expounding justifications for sexual relations between adults and children, placing the welfare of the subject Child at risk. . . . Father admits his pedophilic desires".

The site asks, "Please ask yourself before hitting the save button Does this have a cultural or historical relevance to boylove?" Culture consists of values and norms, so could potentially extend into the political and legal realms. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 17:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

== "Village pump"? ==

Di we have a page here for wiki-related discussions? __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:28, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

:Yes, https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora [[BoyWiki:Agora]] We are kind of into the ancient Greek culture :)--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 13:42, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

::You are, huh? Who'd have thunk… ;-) __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

== Uploading? ==

Hello,

How can I upload a picture or two? [[User:Haiduc|Haiduc]] ([[User talk:Haiduc|talk]]) 17:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

:[[BoyWiki:Requests for file uploads]] --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 18:03, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

== Exempt regulars from CAPTCHA ==

I wonder if regulars could be exempted from having to fill out the CAPTCHA all the time? See [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:$wgAutopromote]] for more info on how to accomplish that. I was thinking that maybe editors who have, say, 1,000 edits and have been here for 100 days could be exempted from the CAPTCHA. Thanks. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 17:50, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

== Geez ==

These days, BoyChat is starting to have almost as much downtime as GirlChat. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:09, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
:Yeah, but it is good to have a break now and then..... I personally plan to get quite drunk tonight. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 22:29, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

== A vicious cycle ==

I want to donate to Free Spirits to help defend against DDoS attacks, but I guess the attackers took down the donation page too! [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 04:13, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:Yes, and I do not know for how long it will be down. I will know more maybe by Monday. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 04:51, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
::[[wikipedia:List_of_Charlie_and_the_Chocolate_Factory_characters#Veruca_Salt|But I want BoyChat to be back up NOW!]] [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 15:52, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:::The Tech. people are working on that but I have been given no ETA on when they will finish. When you are a BL, you learn to be patient :) --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 16:21, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
:::: BC will be back sometime on Monday, after the new security features are added. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:37, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
:::::BoyChat is now back online--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 20:22, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
::::::The donation page still [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1466753.htm isn't working] beyond the first step of the pledge process though. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:30, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

== The donation page still isn't working! ==

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 04:10, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

:Yes, I know. I have no idea when it will be up and running again. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 12:41, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
::Is BoyChat going the way of Newgon? [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
::: No, just a minor annoyance. We BL's move slowly but we keep moving..... if you knew how many times BoyChat was in real danger of dying, you'd be amazed that we are still here 20 years later. Someday the antis may win but that day is not today or anytime soon. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

== NEVER GIVE UP ==

[http://childwiki.org/w/images/3/35/Screencapture-fsco-freespirits-info-fundraiser-pledge-1456191002922.png THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE THAT YOUR DREAMS CAN BECOME A REALITY]. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
:Yeah, I am not sure that is going to work but we will see. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:45, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
::Especially since I forgot my pledge number and never got an email, so now I have to do a new pledge. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 10:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

== Hi. I'm alive, and, well... ==

I've been very very busy preparing materials for uploading. Of course, having lost my Internet connection several months ago did put a small crimp in my uploading style. Now dozens of books are in the pipeline, most simply waiting for final proofreading...

Well, I'm "Internetized" again, as of about two hours ago. But I'm still too busy to contribute much here... sorry about that...

Anyway, I'm just saying "hello". I hope you're OK. You may have been wondering if I was still alive...

BTW-- I don't remember much of the Wiki coding that I had learned, so expect errors for awhile in anything I do contribute...

Cheers! À bientôt

[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:09, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

:I am glad you are doing well and look forward to your future contributions to BoyWiki. I suppose that wiki code is rather like riding a bike [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] ... --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 17:52, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

::Nice! What other "smileys" do we have available?

::[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 13:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
:::That and just the regular one [[File:Face-smile.png|30 px]] are the only ones I have added so far. I just happened to like that one and decided to add it to my signature (until I get bored with it) Collecting BL related graphics is a hobby. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] 14:10, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

== Problems with User4 ==

I have been working on the article on Browser security, which I think I know something about both technically and socially. (I went through having my computer seized and searched.) He comes in and puts in things that are just wrong, such as "TOR is secure". We're having a low key edit war and I'm pretty frustrated about it. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 01:26, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

: I wish I had an easy answer for you or could say what is right but that is way beyond my area of expertise. I am sorry you are feeling frustrated. Sometimes it is difficult to work together when both people believe deeply that they are right. I don't have an answer. I do appreciate how you must be feeling and the work you do here --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] 02:48, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

== What to work on ==

Where would my finite efforts be most useful? I have a Ph.D. In history/literature; also very good at English and editing. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 01:54, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

:Hard to answer as I am not sure what your areas of interest are... my advice is to write about what you are passionate about. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px]] 02:41, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

== You might want to help out some BLs by posting ==

My article (it's pretty much finished--I've picked my brain for everything I could think of), "BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction" to the BC thread:

BCers convicted of crime: How did you get caught? - qwolk 2016-March-23 22:58:54, Wednesday (13)

https://www.boychat.org/messages/1469554.htm

Or, then again, you might ''not'' want to. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:28, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

== Something for the French BoyWiki, perhaps? ==

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kkMGFcTJ8fIJ:http://mo.michelonfray.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Le-cheval-de-Vincennes1.pdf%2B%22Une+erotique+puerile%22+filetype:pdf&hl=en&gbv=1&filter=0&&ct=clnk

http://mo.michelonfray.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Le-cheval-de-Vincennes1.pdf

[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 19:19, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

== How do I "edit" an Agora entry to reply? ==

Your last entry was, "The only advice on that I can give is that it maybe..." but I see no way to edit that entry to reply. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:58, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
:Yeah, that thing works with JS (don't blame me... yell at Conner) you are going to have to go to the page directly [[BoyWiki:Agora/3_April_2016]] I believe. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:01, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

== I need a really small favor ==

I need to know if archive.org ''actually caches'' .PDF files, or if it simply ''links'' to the website. If they ''actually cache'' the .PDF files, then those files will be permanently available, even if that keepandshare account is closed. If the .PDF files are ''not'' cached, then--if the account is closed--the files will be lost.

If you click the following link, my question will be answered. Thanks! (You don't have to actually save the file when given the choice--just click on the link, then close the "save as" popup, and then close the browser window.)

https//www.marti2u.keepandsare.com

Let me know if you ''do'' do me this favor, OK?, because otherwise I won't know how archive.org is handling things... Thanks [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 14:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
:It seems to work. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 15:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

::I'm checking out to see what actually happened... I don't know yet... Thanks much for your help! (put another URL above, so no-one will accidentally repeat your test and screw things up...) [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:41, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

:::Well, it looks like it was a "failure," meaning that archive.org ''does not'' cache the actual .PDF files themselves, but it just caches the ''links'' to them at keepandshare. That's a real shame... if the "marti" sites close, then the files will be lost forever... Now I'm really discouraged... I don't know what to do... :-( [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:34, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

== Hi. I know you're very busy, but I'd just like to point out that you haven't yet responded to a comment about Agora that I made ==

https://www.boywiki.org/en/User5/Draft/Agora_without_Javascript Thanks. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

== I made a sample "Here's some help" page for Buster's user page. ==

I think you can probably find it. Oh, where is everybody today? I'm feeling lonely, here all by myself... [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 04:16, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
:I am sorry you were feeling lonely but some days, I actually have to do real work.( which I am paying for today) I have a number of jobs that I have to get done (and several little jobs I want to get done) but unfortunately, the weather this year has been less then cooperative. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 13:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

== The Main Page of BoyWiki looks very nice! ==

I just wanted to let you know my opinion of it. You put a lot of work into it, I know. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:38, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

== User4 ==

Can't you just block him for a month or something? He's not that bad of a guy. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:15, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
:Yes, I wish that were possible however he refuses to take direction, he does things that I ask him not to do. Right now, I can't be around to monitor BoyWiki as often, as it is my busy time of year (which was the major factor in my decision). I simple can't trust him to be responsible. If he would stick to writing about books and other things of interest, I would not have a problem (so long as he did so within the copyright laws) but he has made it very clear to me that he will not do that and he doesn't care what I think and is going to do what he pleases... and that being the case, he is now more of a liability then an asset. The bottom line is that he can think that I am wrong all he likes, he can think I am an asshole, but he needs to understand that I am the person in charge and when I say don't do it then don't do it! I have always thought that User4 had a good deal to offer BoyWiki (and still do) but if he can't work within the structure, it is pointless to continue. I am done arguing, I am done fighting. I simple don't have the time or energy to do it. I have never thought user4 was "that bad of a guy" but BoyWiki is highly structured (i.e. it is not a message board) and the type of writing that is required is also structured (formula writing) and is not something that is in everyone's wheelhouse. Sometimes you have to work inside the proverbial box and user4 has proven to me that he is either unwilling or unable to do that. However, I will think about it and maybe when I am feeling less pressed and overwhelmed, my heart will be less hardened on this subject. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 02:51, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
::"it is my busy time of year" 3-6 months block, then? If this were Wikipedia, he would probably just create another account and edit using that, but it isn't possible here. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 10:03, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

== English ==
Home page is two words.

Degrees of anonymity exist in English. Doing somethng, you can be more anonymous than before. What user4 calls anonymity we would call "total anonymity". So it's not that you have to choose between anonymity and non-anonymity. Changes made in TOR, which is far from totally secure, and browser security. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 22:22, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

==user4 is dangerous==
His inaccurate changes to articles on computer security - basically portraying things as better and safer than they are - are putting boylovers in danger. I suggest you block him.

Do you want references on Tor's lack of security?

Computers become rapidly more powerful (Moore's Law). Thus they are more and more able to penetrate encryption. For more info, look up prime numbers under Cryptography.

You may not know whether to believe me or not, but isn't it safer to assume I'm right? [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 22:50, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
:User4 is currently banned.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 13:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

== Deletion of [[Internet security tutorial]] ==

I believe this article should be archived (deleted). It was written in 2009, is full of outdated and other misinformation (and grammar/spelling mistakes), and I don't think it's worth the effort to edit and update it. The very concept of a security tutorial which, if followed, will make you secure is a big miThe situation changes significantly at least every year, sometimes several times a year. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 11:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

== Suggest deletion of [[What if Astrologers took over the government?]] ==

Another User4 article, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing (a quote from Macbeth by Shakespeare).

I made a mistake referring to prime numbers. I should have said factorials. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 11:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

== Ottoman picture ==
I have some nineteenth-century ones that must be public domain. But how do I get them to you? In fact one would be good for the article. But I have no idea what the next step is.

I have more to do on the computer security articles. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 12:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
:Ether email picture to me at etenne@boywiki.org or post it some place where I can download it. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 13:41, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

:: I cannot figure out how to do this without leaving a trail back to my IP. Is there no direct way to upload a file to Boywiki? [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 14:18, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
:::No, most people email them to me or provide me the URL where I can retrieve them. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 14:25, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4794/396/1600/kocek.0.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_01.jpg/200px-Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_01.jpg

This is hand-colored:
http://babayagamusic.com/Encyclopedic-Dictionary-Ethnic-Arts/images/Ottoman-kocek-dancer-late-nineteenth-century-320x504.jpg

This says "danseuse" (female dancer, male is "danseur") but that can't be right. A female wouldn't wear this type of outfit. The kocek dancers were all male.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_02.jpg [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 17:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
:Some of these we already have: https://www.boywiki.org/media/File:Turkish_-_Dancing_Kocek_-_Late_19th_c_-_wiki.jpg
https://www.boywiki.org/media/File:Turkish_19th_century_kocek_dancer_01.jpg
--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:56, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

== Government ccontact ==

Do you receive hate mail? Get contacted by any type of government body? Not just law enforcement.

I'm concerned about security. I guess there's at least one sheriff deputy among the users?

You have let an identity detail slip. Is there a way I can tell you other than posting it here (which I'm not going to do)..[[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 19:01, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
:''Do you receive hate mail?'' NO, I never get hate mail. ''Get contacted by any type of government body? Not just law enforcement'' No, I have never been contacted by any agency of any government or any agency of law enforcement.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 19:48, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

== Being offline ==

Is there anyplace I can read what happened? [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 07:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
:I am not sure what you mean... you mean about the outage?--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 18:50, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

::Yes I mean about theoutage. [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 20:30, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

== Thanks so much for putting up zethos ==

Sure missed boywiki while it was gone! [[User:Wanker|Wanker]] ([[User talk:Wanker|talk]]) 20:29, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

== Can we have a page about BoyChat's current status? ==

E.g. how to get to it? [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 21:05, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
: I updated the BoyChat page now with two ways to get to it. [[User:Hikari-again|hikari-again]] ([[User talk:Hikari-again|talk]]) 1:23:45 AM Monday, August 28, 2017 (UTC)
:: I was told what was going on today and really the problem could be a result of many different issues... my guess is that there is a cable loose. However as this is Free Spirits, first we have to identify the person with the tech. skills to plug in a cable and the person with the authority to tell him to go plug it back in. This should go relatively quickly. I only anticipate that it will take a dozen or so meetings.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 02:41, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

== Is there an article about boys' hitting on men? ==
I know there's http://www.childwiki.nathania.org/wiki/Testimony:_CSA_(Children%27s_Sexual_Advances)
[[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 05:26, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

== Dost thou? ==

Just asking.

H.
:Not understanding what you are asking --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 13:59, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

::J'ai essaye de t'ecrire. Tu sais ou me trouver. [[User:Haiduc|Haiduc]] ([[User talk:Haiduc|talk]]) 14:06, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

== Got any info concerning feminist involvement in the 1977 federal child porn legislation? ==

[[Nancy Whittier]] claims, "All congressional hearings that addressed pornography between 1977 and 1983 did so through the lens of child abuse". She also says, "between 1982-1988, feminists and conservatives were both highly mobilized on the issue and gained extensive congressional attention, federal action, and discursive change. Pornography sparked widespread response from the federal government in the Attorney General's Commission on Pornography, numerous congressional subcommittee hearings, and expanded enforcement divisions within several federal agencies. During this period, feminist frames emphasizing harms to women gained ground and legal obscenity enforcement grew." [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:00, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

== How do I leave Boywiki? ==

I am sorry, but I would like to leave Boywiki. I oppose what it teaches. To me, the harm Adult/child sexual relationships do to children is a good reason to oppose this kind of activity. I am very sorry. Please don't be upset with me. How do I leave Boywiki? I wish the best for you all. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 00:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:I assume that you could just stop posting and I am not sure BoyWiki "teaches" anything and is simply a record or archive.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 10:27, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

::O.K. Just one more question. Is Boywiki legal in Canada? [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 19:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:::'''I am not an expert on Canadian law and can't give legal advice.''' Can you be arrested for having a dissenting or unpopular opinion in Canada? Ex: In Russia and other European countries, you can't support gay rights or anything that promotes homosexuality in their opinion. Socrates was convicted of "both corrupting the minds of the youth of Athens and of impiety (asebeia, "not believing in the gods of the state"),and as a punishment sentenced to death" for questioning the established belief system. He subsequently drank a mixture containing poison hemlock rather than go into exile. I suppose it depends on what risks a person is willing to take. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 23:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

:Why leave, rather than to try make the appropriate edits to ensure BoyWiki does not appear to be advocating either stance? You have the ability to make edits to content so that it does not encourage or "approve" of sexual contact with children, yet choose not to? BoyWiki is volunteer-run. What articles suggest that adult-child sexual relations are positive? [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 00:21, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

== Making Boywiki more nuteral ==

Hi, [[Etenne]], I am still planning on leaving Boywiki, but I was talking to [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] and I suggested ways to make Boywiki more neutral. I said, "It would be good to include the opinions of different groups relating to pedophilia: (Virtuous pedophiles supporting and Anti-Contact MAPS), '''groups I strongly support'''," and explain their point-of-view on Boywiki. What do you think? Also, is holding the view that adult-child sex as o.k. or any form of Pedophile Advocacy legal in Canada? [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 18:08, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
:I don't have a problem with that other then the use of the word Pro-contact which is a derogatory term. I am not pro-contact, I am pro-love.You can replace that word with ''others who hold various differing opinions''. Again, I am not a legal expert and can not give advice on Canadian law. Plus, it is a very bad idea to take legal advice over the internet. If you have questions, contact a competent legal professional. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|40 px|link=Etenne]] 11:37, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
::O.K. Thank you very much. I won't use the terms Pro-contact and Anti-contact in editing articles. Unfortunately, I don't feel comfortable editing or having an account on Boywiki. Please don't take this personally. I am sorry, but I feel that I should part ways with Boywiki. Thank you for helping me. [[User:Lister34|Lister34]] ([[User talk:Lister34|talk]]) 21:46, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

== Hey, still around? ==

Hey Etenne, are you still around? I'd like to add a picture to the [[https://www.boywiki.org/en/MAPs_irl MAPs irl]] article I created here, and I don't have permission to upload files.

[[User:Hikari-again|Hikari-again]] ([[User talk:Hikari-again|talk]]) 05:57, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

:Echoing hikari's question: you still around? [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 22:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

:Bump. [[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 20:43, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
::Kind of, sort of..... I check in everyday but I haven't been doing that much.

== Message for Dragonlover ==

Hey Etenne, hope you're doing alright. Dragonlover's having trouble logging into his BoyWiki account and can't reset his password as he's not receiving a reset email. Would you know how to help him?
Thanks,
Hikari
[[User:hikari-again|hikari-again]] ([[User talk:hikari-again|talk]]) 22:45, 27 Dec 2019 (UTC)

== Status of BoyChat, BoyLinks, and FreeSpirits sites ==

Hi Etenne, and hopefully others.

I've observed that BoyChat, BoyLinks, and the main FreeSpirits site, are all currently non-functional. Could we know what's going on with these sites? Should we be concerned?

Thanks.
~FA, and presumably other concerned persons.
[[User:FalseAlias|FalseAlias]] ([[User talk:FalseAlias|talk]]) 04:12, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Etenne

2020-02-19T04:11:40Z

FalseAlias: /* Status of BoyChat, BoyLinks, and FreeSpirits sites */ new section

BLSafetyNet (2002 - 2004)

2020-02-14T05:31:38Z

FalseAlias: Citation changes plus opening date.

'''BLSafetyNet''' (also known as '''BLS''') was a short-lived [[message board]] started by [[Anson]] on December 21, 2002.<ref>[http://www.blsafety.net/register.php BLSafetyNet Registration Page] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20030621204026/http://www.blsafety.net/register.php Web Archive 2003-06-21 20:40:26]). Page indicates 6 month anniversary date, and thus the start date.</ref> Soon after launch it became an area where posters who were disgruntled with [[BoyChat]] were able to create and carry out agendas against [[Free Spirits]] and BoyChat at will. While Anson did not create his board with that specific purpose in mind he did allow [[Pokemon]] to become a moderator who then began to use the forum for his own agenda. The board quietly closed on January 16, 2004, about a year after it began. In his closing message, Anson expressed disappointment in how his project had turned out.<ref>[http://www.blsafety.net/gallery.php?gal=3 BLSafetyNet closure notice] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20040215132847/http://www.blsafety.net/gallery.php?gal=3 Web Archive] 2004-02-15 13:28:47).</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
Snapshots of BLSafetyNet from the [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive Wayback Machine]:
*[http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.blsafety.net Main page]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20030608121011/www.blsafety.net/forum.php Forum on 8 June 2003]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/*re_/http://www.blsafety.net* All archived pages (including some gallery pictures)]

[[Category:Online history]]
[[Category:Message boards]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-01-05T02:09:13Z

FalseAlias: /* History */ Correction of year.

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2019, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.
===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

The next release of Ethos has been confirmed to be December 15, 2019, via an advertisement uploaded to the ads directory of the Ethos website.<ref>[https://ethosonline.net/ads/Ethos%20issue%2012%20ad%202.jpg Ethos issue 12 ad 2.jpg] Retrieved December 9, 2019</ref>

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-01-04T02:28:26Z

FalseAlias: The previous line remove failed?

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2020, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.
===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

The next release of Ethos has been confirmed to be December 15, 2019, via an advertisement uploaded to the ads directory of the Ethos website.<ref>[https://ethosonline.net/ads/Ethos%20issue%2012%20ad%202.jpg Ethos issue 12 ad 2.jpg] Retrieved December 9, 2019</ref>

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-01-04T02:15:28Z

FalseAlias: /* History */ date found.

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, the Ethos website had migrated to a new host and was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018. To remember all three of them, Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 27, 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1525781.htm Ethos Disclaimer Change - Boychat] Retrieved January 4, 2020</ref>

On March 31, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2020, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.
===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

The next release of Ethos has been confirmed to be December 15, 2019, via an advertisement uploaded to the ads directory of the Ethos website.<ref>[https://ethosonline.net/ads/Ethos%20issue%2012%20ad%202.jpg Ethos issue 12 ad 2.jpg] Retrieved December 9, 2019</ref>

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2020-01-04T00:51:32Z

FalseAlias: /* History */ Correction of date of disclaimer change.

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, 2018, Ethos was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018, and to remember all three Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27, 2018.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

During late March 2019, the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to. The older policy dictated that contributors give the submission and all rights to Ethos.

On March 31, 2019, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, 2019, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2020, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.
===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

The next release of Ethos has been confirmed to be December 15, 2019, via an advertisement uploaded to the ads directory of the Ethos website.<ref>[https://ethosonline.net/ads/Ethos%20issue%2012%20ad%202.jpg Ethos issue 12 ad 2.jpg] Retrieved December 9, 2019</ref>

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2019-12-31T04:57:10Z

FalseAlias: /* History */ Ethos 12 release

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

During 2017, Ethos received permission to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]]. As such, all issues of the magazine were made live on the site.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, 2018, Ethos was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018, and to remember all three Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27, 2018.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, and was notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced at that time. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

During mid-September 2018 the Ethos disclaimer was amended to allow authors to retain rights to their submissions. Instead of giving Ethos the submission in whole, authors now give Ethos a full copy of the submission with all usage rights. In exchange, Ethos agrees to attribute the original author. The original author retains all rights to their submission separate to Ethos, so they may publish it elsewhere if they want to.

Ethos 9, released December 15, superseded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

On March 31, 2019, the Ethos website started hosting all known issues of [[Barrilete]], a Spanish boylover magazine created as a Spanish-language accompaniment to MBM between 2008 and 2011.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, 2019, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.

Ethos 12 release on December 15, and contains 54 page cover-to-cover. As of the end of 2020, Ethos 12 was the largest issue of Ethos produced. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 12. Since Ethos 11 indicated increased foreign readership, a text-only copy of Ethos 12 was produced.
===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

The next release of Ethos has been confirmed to be December 15, 2019, via an advertisement uploaded to the ads directory of the Ethos website.<ref>[https://ethosonline.net/ads/Ethos%20issue%2012%20ad%202.jpg Ethos issue 12 ad 2.jpg] Retrieved December 9, 2019</ref>

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

User:FalseAlias

2019-12-30T02:01:51Z

FalseAlias: Removal of word.

Boyland

2019-12-28T04:57:02Z

FalseAlias: /* History */ Note to mention an admin resigning.

<center>[[File:Blol.png]]</center>

'''Boyland''' (other names: Boylandonline, Boyland Online, BLOL) is an [[online message board]] for [[boylover]]s founded by Mark Baker in December 2006. It was hacked in August 2008 resulting in a loss of all user data<ref name="BLOL_2008_hack1">[https://web.archive.org/web/20080914030926/http://boylandonline.com:80/whathappend.html What Happened with BLOL.com (Internet Archive, 2008-09-03 @ 13:02:01)] Retrieved on April 23, 2018</ref><ref name="BLOL_2008_hack2">[https://web.archive.org/web/20080903130201/http://www.boylandonline.com:80/ BLOL.com (Internet Archive, 2008-09-14 @ 21:37:11)] Retrieved on April 24, 2018</ref>, and in 2011 it was forced to reset resulting in a second loss of data. In 2017, Boyland released a large board upgrade and made the old board a read-only archive only accessible to previously registered members.

The main board contains discussion forums for various subjects in English as well as French, Spanish and German, in addition to some image galleries. A chatbox (requires JavaScript) is also operational on the site homepage.

Boyland regularly makes efforts to ensure that it is safe, and informs members when new security problems that may affect them are discovered. The site operates using an SSL image proxy and secure link redirector, to preserve member privacy when dealing with external content or links. They also regularly communicate with the board owners of other message boards in order to share information about security to make sure one another's board is properly protected. This collaboration has already resulted in removing and reducing threats to the community.

Boyland is in active partnership with [[BoyPlanet|BoyPlanet.net]] and [https://www.boywiki.org/de/Jungs.wtf Jungs.wtf].

==History==

Boyland was founded by Mark Baker in 2007, who sadly passed on December 27, 2011. When Boyland first opened, the following text was overlayed on top of an image on their homepage: <ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070103213711/http://boylandonline.com:80/ BLOL.com (Internet archive, 2007-01-03 @ 21:37:11)] Retrieved on April 23, 2018</ref>

{{Quotation|{{Cquote|
Welcome... 
To a board that offers Friendship and Guidance. 
A board that offers a chat room, 3 galleries, an arcade and much more... 
Welcome to... 
BoyLand
}}}}

On August 18, 2008, Boyland was hacked. All user info was lost and the board databases crashed. The IP addresses of users were not compromised, and all past users had to re-register at Boyland in order to continue participating. An announcement regarding this was posted on the Boyland homepage on September 3, 2008, after the board was rebuilt by staff.<ref name="BLOL_2008_hack1" /><ref name="BLOL_2008_hack2" />

Since 2011, Boyland has been run by three administrators from different parts of the world who keep the spirit of the founder alive and at the same time implement new features.

Starting on December 7, 2017, and extending onwards for several weeks, Boyland administrators started building a new board for Boyland in order to keep up to date with Internet standards and to ensure that user data was the most secure it could be. Prior to this was four weeks of careful planning and discussions amongst the administration and management team in order to determine which direction to go and what board software would be best suited to the needs of Boyland.

On December 19, 2017, Boyland administrators announced a fourth administrator joining them in maintaining and operating Boyland.

On December 22, 2017, Boyland released a major site update which included a large scale visual redesign of the main forums. Old members were required to re-register at the new board, and four weeks later the old board was turned into a read-only archive. Registrations on the old board were disabled, thereby ensuring a truer read-only nature.

On May 24, 2018, Boyland administrators updated the site-wide privacy policy in order to become more transparent in response to GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) laws coming into effect across Europe. The content of the policy was not modified, but its wording was expanded on considerably.

On November 25, 2019, Boyland announced the resigning of one of its administrators.

==Security and privacy==

Boyland has been strict with their concern regarding member privacy, dedicating to a privacy policy which states that they collect absolutely no information about their users, except for what they provide in registration. While the registration form asks for a birthdate, it is noted that this birthdate is not kept and is used to verify that users are older than 16 years of age as per their membership requirements. <ref>[https://boylandonline.com/privacy/ Boyland Privacy Policy] Retrieved on June 13, 2018</ref>

A note at the end of the Social Experience section of the Boyland rules states that IP addresses are not logged to any database or logfile. Social Rule 4 prohibits the posting of any information which could be used to identify a member (including pictures), and and Social Rule 6 forbids any member asking for personal information or images of any member under the age of 18. <ref>[https://boylandonline.com/guidelines/ Boyland Rules and Guidelines] Retrieved on April 23, 2018</ref>

A status checker for boylove resources hosted by Boyland lists various security-related features regarding site safety. In this, it is stated that Boyland forces any externally loaded pictures through an image proxy, safely handles external links, has a minimum age of 16, and does not block any Tor or VPN users from using their site. Additionally, Boyland runs with an active SSL certificate and encryption.<ref>[https://boylandonline.com/status/ Boyland Status Checker] Retrieved on April 23, 2018</ref>

==Miles the owner and administrator of Boyland interview on WEIRD Radio==

We miss those who died; we keep on as they would want it.

Boyland is alive. Become a member today! ;D

 
{{Audio | source=Intermiles2.mp3 |position=gauche |control=1 |boucle= |autoplay= |'''Miles the owner and administrator of Boyland interview on [[WEIRD Radio]]''' from April 9, 2016}}

==See also==
*[[Message_board|Message board]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==

Today I am happy to announce that
*[https://boylandonline.com/ Boylandonline's website]

[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Message boards]]
[[Category:Websites]]

BoyPlanet

2019-12-28T04:55:22Z

FalseAlias: Various changes. Mostly on history.

Ethos (magazine)

2019-12-28T04:40:17Z

FalseAlias: /* Website */ internal link correction

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, 2018, Ethos was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018, and to remember all three Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27, 2018.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, 2018, and is notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superceeded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, 2019, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, 2019, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.
===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

During 2017, Ethos received permissions to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylover Magazine]].

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

The next release of Ethos has been confirmed to be December 15, 2019, via an advertisement uploaded to the ads directory of the Ethos website.<ref>[https://ethosonline.net/ads/Ethos%20issue%2012%20ad%202.jpg Ethos issue 12 ad 2.jpg] Retrieved December 9, 2019</ref>

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Ethos (magazine)

2019-12-17T18:36:33Z

FalseAlias: Ethos 12.

<center>'''[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 Issue 12] of Ethos Magazine is available'''
</center>

'''Ethos Magazine''' is an online magazine published independently by members of the [[boylove]] community.

==History==
Formed by Kermie in 2016, Ethos released issue one on September 15, 2016, and proceeded to release every three months up until early 2018 where problems with the Ethos host and unrelated staff issues caused issue 7 to be released two months late. The name of Ethos was chosen primarily because of its dictionary definition{{cite}}: "The fundamental character or spirit of a culture".<ref>[http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethos Dictionary definition of Ethos]</ref> The self-defined goal of Ethos is to "portray what is true about the orientation of Boylove" as part of "an effort to make society aware of the facts about REAL Boylovers".<ref name="Issue1Notation">[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005130355im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/1/ethos-issue-1-p03.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 1 page 3] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref>

On October 6, 2016, Kermie passed away and ownership of Ethos was transferred to Dragonlover. The magazine continued to release going forward, despite the loss of its founder. An entry in Ethos 2 was dedicated to remembering Kermie.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124850im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p01.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 cover] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125021im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p16.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 15] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref><ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125006im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/2/ethos-issue-2-p17.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 2 page 16] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Following several months more of releases, Ethos ownership changed further when Dragonlover elected to place Zoomzoom4 as owner while he stepped back from the Ethos scene.

At the beginning of February, 2018, the Ethos graphics manager left Ethos and the wider boylove community. Shortly later, [[Enchanted Island]] communicated to Ethos that they were going to close and that Ethos should backup all of the website data. Within 24 hours of Enchanted Island going down on March 3, 2018, Ethos was back online. Unfortunately, Enchanted Island was one of three boards to go down within the first three months of 2018, and to remember all three Ethos published a piece at the beginning of Issue 7.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005125716im_/https://ethosonline.net/issues/ethos/jpg/7/ethos-issue-7-p05.jpg Ethos Magazine, issue 7 page 4] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> Due to the issues which had impacted the community following the closure of three boards, in addition to the departure of the Ethos graphics manager and subsequent hiring of a new one, Ethos 7 was released later than the usual date (which would've been March 15). Instead, Ethos 7 was released May 27, 2018.

Ethos 8 released on August 27, 2018, and is notable primarily because it had been identified as the largest issue that Ethos has produced. Most issues of Ethos are within 20 to 30 pages, while issue 8 came to 44 cover to cover.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005124854/https://ethosonline.net/issues/?pub=ethos Issues > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

Ethos 9, released December 15, superceeded Ethos 8 as largest Ethos issue produced with 50 pages cover to cover. 12 authors are credited with content in Ethos 9.

Ethos 10 released on April 15, 2019, totalling 46 pages. 10 authors are credited with content in Ethos 10. An article in Ethos 10, titled Ethos News, highlighted a change in Ethos submission guidelines that removed the condition of content being non-biased on the contact debate.

Ethos 11 released on August 15, 2019, and contains 39 pages cover-to-cover. There are 13 contributors involved with Ethos 11, including an extract used with permission by Tom O'Carroll on the late [[David_Riegel|David L. Riegel]]. Early feedback received for Ethos 11 indicated an increased readership in non-English speaking countries, so a text-only copy of Ethos 11 was produced for use in translation engines.
===Website===
Initially, Ethos did not have a website for issues 1 and 2. A website was produced prior to issue 3 being released at the domain ethosmagazine.net, with several overhauls and redesigns before a design was agreed on. Due to technical issues and downtime on July 19, 2017, the website moved from this domain to ethosonline.net, with the ethosmagazine.net domain continuing to be disused. It took three days for the move to be completed, with the site fully operational again by July 22, 2017.

Unfortunately, the downtime caused some BBN stories to be lost despite backups being able to restore most of them.

During 2017, Ethos received permissions to host all existing issues of [[Modern Boylove Magazine]].

===Blue Boy News===
On February 19, 2017, the Ethos website started hosting a section titled "Blue Boy News", a small area dedicated to boy-related and boylover-relevant news. This was maintained by news correspondents up until Christmas 2017, where it fell into a state of disuse. This disuse caused the feature to be removed from the site in April 2018.

The logo used for BBN advertised new stories every Saturday.

==Release schedule==
Since Ethos started, it was noted to have released on the 15th of every third month (March, June, September, December). When Ethos had to migrate host in March 2018, a decision was made to amend the publication schedule to every fourth month (April, August, December).{{cite}}<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005123910/https://ethosonline.net/about.php About us > Ethos] Retrieved October 5, 2018</ref> The May 2018 and August 2018 issues are the only two to have not been released on the 15th of release month.

The next release of Ethos has been confirmed to be December 15, 2019, via an advertisement uploaded to the ads directory of the Ethos website.<ref>[https://ethosonline.net/ads/Ethos%20issue%2012%20ad%202.jpg Ethos issue 12 ad 2.jpg] Retrieved December 9, 2019</ref>

==Volunteer driven==
In the opening of issue 1, Dragonlover writes that "We are not professional writers",<ref name="Issue1Notation" /> and Ethos has been known to periodically advertise for content submissions from the wider community. The ads are usually images accompanied with text. On the Ethos website is additionally a page informing users of the types of content accepted and a non-exhaustive list of what will be rejected.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20181005131728/https://ethosonline.net/ad.php Content wanted > Ethos] Retriever October 5, 2018</ref>

==Previous issues==
{|
|[[File:Ethos 1.jpg|thumb|140px|Ethos 1 cover September 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/1 - Issue 1]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-2 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 2 cover December 2016
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/2 - Issue 2]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-3 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 3 cover March 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/3 - Issue 3]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-4 big.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 4 cover June 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/4 - Issue 4]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-5.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 5 cover September 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/5 - Issue 5]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-6-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 6 cover December 2017
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/6 - Issue 6]]]

|-
|[[File:Ethos-issue-7-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 7 cover May 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/7 - Issue 7]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-8-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 8 cover August 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/8 - Issue 8]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-9-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 9 cover December 2018
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/9 - Issue 9]]]

----
|[[File:Ethos-issue-10-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 10 cover April 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/10 - Issue 10]]]

----

|[[File:Ethos-issue-11-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 11 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/11 - Issue 11]]]
|[[File:Ethos-issue-12-p01.jpg|thumb|120px|Ethos 12 cover August 2019
----
[https://ethosonline.net/issues/?ethos/jpg/12 - Issue 12]]]
|}

==Contact and submissions==
If you wish to contribute to Ethos Magazine, please use their [https://ethosonline.net/submit/ submission form]. If you wish to contact Ethos for any other reason, you can use their [https://ethosonline.net/contact.php contact form].

Ethos Magazine is volunteer-driven and everyone is in invited and offered the opportunity to submit their work for publication, as Ethos does not maintain it's own staff of professional writers.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Portal:Boylove News Channel/Art and Entertainment]]
*[[The Birth of New BoyLove Venues]]
*[[Enchanted Island]]
*[[WEIRD Radio]]
*[[BL choice awards 2016]]

==External Links==
*[https://ethosonline.net/ Official Ethos website]
*[[Ethos Magazine No.1]] (hosted by BoyWiki)
[[Category:Newspapers and magazines]]
[[Category:Community]]
[[Category:Websites]]

Talk:Etenne

2019-12-09T20:43:48Z

FalseAlias: /* Hey, still around? */