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Rookiee Revolyob/WikipediaUserTalk

2009-10-09T09:22:57Z

ImaginaryBoy:

Can you please explain what your plan is for the re-arrangement of article on [[sex offender]], [[child sex offenduiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is citing categories, biased, NPOV, etc, etc... uiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting er]], etc? -[[User:Willmcw|Willmcw]] 21:26, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:That's currently what I'm trying to figure out. There seems to be a HUGE convolution of terms, entries, categories, biased, NPOV, etc, etc... uiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is citing references, either, which needs to change. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee]] 21:36, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

: ... And now [[sex offender]] got reverted back and altered... I categories, biased, NPOV, etc, etc... uiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is citing categories, biased, NPOV, etc, etc... uiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is citing categories, biased, NPOV, etc, etc... uiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is citing categories, biased, NPOV, etc, etc... uiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is citing categories, biased, NPOV, etc, etc... uiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is citing realized that some pages talking about different sex offenders had already been created, so I thought it would be proper to split up the pages for each type. I just created a new page for "Child Sex Offender".... which is now ALSO reverted...

: I think the problem with attempting to categorization of sex offenders is it combines "psychology" with "crime", hence [[criminology]]. Maybe that's the category we should put it under. Whatcha think? --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee]] 21:46, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::What I think is that you should discuss major changes on talk pages before making them, and if you are doing a major restructuring then you should have some plan in place. Yes, unless you provide some explanations, prefereably in the article talk pages, your major changes may be reverted. -[[User:Willmcw|Willmcw]] 21:59, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

:::I wasn't originally planning on making large structural changes. It just ended up happening the more and more I found suspect entries and reverts. I figured the only way to combat that is to simply change them. So, tell me, once I put it on the discussion page, how do I ensure that the changes are followed through on?

:::Also, why is [[Talk:Child sexual abuse]] forwarding to [[Talk:Sexual abuse]]? --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee]] 22:05, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

::::After you've made your proposal on the talk pages, and dealt with any issues that are raised there, then you or another eitor can make the changes. Regarding the talk page redirects, that would be a vestige of various page moves. -[[User:Willmcw|Willmcw]] 22:08, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

Wow... you have copied all of my userboxes, even presenting them in the same order and using the same wording in the customized boxes. Could you at least move them around/change some of the wording so that people don't think you're a just carbon-copy of me? I find to believe that you share every single one of my interests, including TV shows. Why not hunt around wikipedia through the userbox categories and choose some that reflect your own personality? -[[User:195.93.21.99|195.93.21.99]] 12:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

==Unblock me==

<nowiki>{{unblock}} </nowiki>

On behalf of Rookiee. "Pedophile trolling" is not a criterion for blocking- and where did he even troll? He was dismayed because Wikipedia was discriminating against him because he's a pedophile. He was just trying to act in good faith and contribute, but he wasn't allowed, and so he wished to protest this. That's NOT grounds for a block. --<strike>''[[User:Rory096|Rory]]''[[WP:EA|0]]'''[[User talk:Rory096|96]]'''</strike> 22:23, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Ongoing discussion [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Please_unblock_Rookiee|here]] --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]([[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]) 22:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>{{unblock}}</nowiki>

I've emailed the admins regarding this with no response.
I've emailed Neutrality regarding this with no response.

I have yet to receive '''any''' type of official response from '''anyone''' regarding my ban.

Why have I been banned? "Pedophile trolling"? What does "Pedophile trolling" mean? What '''specific''' actions did I make to commit ''any'' kind of trolling, much less "pedophile" trolling? Did I troll pedosexuals? No. I ''am'' a pedosexual! If anything, the offense was committed '''against''' me! I have been singled out because of my sexual orientation and barred from being allowed to give my POV into Wikipedia articles because of this growing and transparent bias amongst Wikipedia's administration.

What are the '''specific differences''' between "pedophile trolling" vs. "non-pedophile trolling"? The modern definition of "pedophile" means "someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children". Merely having a sexual attraction, however subjectively offensive to the average American Joe, does '''not''' constitute an action much less an offense. "Pedophile" is a noun, not a verb. It means to posess a characteristic. Are you banning me because of a characteristic I claim to posess? If so, how is that not discriminatory? Are you assuming that because of this characteristic, I am somehow lesser of an individual, uncapable of being held to the same standard of respect as is the rest of Wikipedia's users? Are you treating me as a second-class Wikipedian? If not, why the need for the qualifier of "pedophile" before "trolling"? Could you ''just possibly'' be accusing me of "I-think-he's-a-sick-pervert trolling"?

Some classify my orientation as a "sickness" while others actively dispute the claim. Even some who are ''not'' pedosexuals actively dispute it. Some assert that pedosexuality is not a protected sexual orientation because it is listed under the [[DSM-IV|DSM]] as a mental illness. May I remind everyone here that '''homosexuality''' once was also on the DSM as a mental illness? Do you know that pedosexuality and homosexuality were once considered synonymous? Is it then Wikipedia's official position that homosexuals are hereby disallowed from editing its pages because of their once-held position as "sick" people? Would they have been banned from Wikipedia 30 years ago for "homosexual trolling"? Why isn't there "ephebophile trolling" or "teleiophile trolling" or "audiophile trolling"? Why not "heterosexual trolling"? Why isn't there "individual who walks his dog in the morning trolling"? I'll tell you why. Because it's stupid! You don't hold these people to a different standard because you think they're ''normal!'' (Or at least somewhat more normal.) ''That'' by its very definition '''is''' discrimination!

I got news for everyone: '''I am pedosexual, and I am PROUD to be pedosexual.''' I am a childlover. I am a boylover. I am a girllover. And I got news for ya: I am a homosexual male. I am a bisexual male. I am a heterosexual male. Yep! I find dem women's attractive too! '''I am a human being.''' I have skin. I have blood. I eat pizza. I love classical music. I (usually when I'm not wasting my time on here) have a job. I have a family. I have loved ones I come home to. AND... I am DEFINATELY not going to allow any nameless admin who purports to be "NEUTRAL" to tell me otherwise because of a single aspect of my life which my society I live in considers taboo.

'''To prohibit someone from editing Wikipedia due to their sexual orientation is against Wikimedia's very own [http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Non_discrimination_policy Non-Discrimination Policy].'''

Furthermore, I have not trolled a damn soul on this website.

Unblock me.

Anyone who wishes to comment to me in private can reach me through my email address on my [http://rookiee.blogspot.com/ blog], otherwise, I invite people's comments here. Thank you. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 10:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

As per above this has been discussed [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Please_unblock_Rookiee|here]], this covers your concern regarding sexual orientation. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]([[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]) 17:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
: That discussion hardly demonstrates a consensus that a block was correct. [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 18:31, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:: I've removed it again, please do not undo my admin actions, I am an admin who has reviewed his reqeusted and is denying it. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]([[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]) 18:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
::: No need to get all huffy! It is not at all clear to a number of us at this point whether this user has been blocked legitimately. This block needs further review. [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 18:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
:::: Replied on your talk. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]([[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]) 19:05, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

You have been unblocked. [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 08:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 10:18, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

:Errr.... it's still saying I'm blocked. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 10:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

::Try now? [[User:NSLE|NSL]][[WP:EA|E]] ([[User_talk:NSLE|T]]+[[Special:Contributions/NSLE|C]]) at 10:23 [[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]] ([[2006-03-15]])

:::Yep, it's working now. Thanks, guys. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 20:33, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

== Userboxes ==

Wow... you have copied all of my userboxes, even presenting them in the same order and using the same wording in the customized boxes. <strike>Could you at least move them around/change some of the wording so that people don't think we're carbon copies? I find it hard to believe that you share every single one of my interests, including TV shows.</strike> Why not hunt around wikipedia through the userbox categories and choose some that reflect your personality more? -[[User:Neural|Neural]] 12:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Check out these good userbox pages: :)

*[[User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes]]
*[[User:Tal642/my userboxes]]
*[[User:Disavian/Userboxes]]
*[[User:MiraLuka/Userboxes]]

There are many different categories to look for among that lot. :-)

Thanks - I just don't want people to think we're laboratory clones... :)

[edited].......Ok, I've had a tinker with the order and changed one or two words. I also added in the name of your blog in the userbox about your [[blog]]. Wikipedia is a free country, a'course: you can change them back if you like. Have fun with all the userboxes, seek out some more, and have fun on wikipedia.

-[[User:Neural|Neural]] 12:20, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

:Yeah, I was going to leave you a message about that... I couldn't believe how many things you had that I ended going, "Huh.. ok.. that's me, too.. I'll just keep it."... over and over and over :) Sorry if I freaked ya out. I'm going to have to watch JAM now that you've made me aware of it. ;D --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 19:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

:I made some additional changes on my userboxes... I had to maintain some form of subject relationships so my brain wouldn't explode. I hope it's dissimilar enough for you. ;) --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 19:23, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[[Jam (TV series)|JAM]] is well worth a look if the idea of ultra-surreal (sometimes disturbing) dreamlike sketches appeals to you. I think it skirts the line between comedy-of-the-absurd and horror somewhat, but the main quality is the surrealism. [[Chris Morris (satirist)|Chris Morris]] was sifting through the strangest recesses of his imagination when he concocted this one... -[[User:Neural|Neural]] 03:59, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

==Sensitive personal material==
You have included sensitive personal material on your user page which is unacceptable. To put it bluntly, you are playing an ass. You may remove it or accept an indefinite block. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 03:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:'''A)''' Sensitive? What exactly on my userpage is sensitive? Could you be more specific?
:'''B)''' Who the hell are you and what right do you have to make such arbitrary demands?
::Let's just say, I'm your friend, but I'm into mercy killing, and you are a baby playing on the freeway. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 12:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:This is a democracy, remember? --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 04:46, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::You are badly mistaken. This is most emphatically ''not'' a democracy. [[User:The Epopt|➥the Epopt]] 04:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Ahh, so it's a dictatorship, yes? :) Still haven't answered my initial question. What exactly is "sensitive" on my userpage? --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 04:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Scratch that. Actually, you failed to answer either of my questions. I'm not a mind-reader, although I try. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 05:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The sensitive personal material on your user page is that you apparently advocate criminal behavior. You cannot do that here. The damage you are doing to Wikipedia's public image is very great. You cannot continue to do this. Think it over. Do you want to edit here or not? [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 12:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
: Maybe I'm just missing it, but I only see lots of aesthetically-unappealing userboxes; I do not see anything which advocates criminal behaviour. What specifically are you referring to, Fred? [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 12:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::Page has been blanked by an anonymous editor. The offending material was in the section "My bias". [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 13:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::: Should Rookiee restore his old page, I would strongly suggest he removes the links to the various pedophile blogs and websites. Wikipedia userpages should not be a tool for advocacy, and advocacy for pedophilia is something we're going to be particularly strict about (for obvious reasons). As regards Rookiee stating who he his, what his biases are and discussing what his purpose is in editing Wikipedia, I don't see any problem with those; that's what a userpage should be used for. [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 14:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Advocacy of criminal activity is unacceptable. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 14:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::::: Assuming that, it's not at all clear to me that Rookiee's old user page contained anything in the way of advocacy of criminal activity. Again, maybe I missed something, but here's a less emotive analogy: on my user page, I say that "Information wants to be free". That doesn't mean that I'm advocating copyright or patent infringement (even though I do think people should be able to copy information freely, and I would personally like to be able to do things that IP laws prevent me from doing). [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 15:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
There is a difference between copyright violation and fucking children. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 17:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
: There's a difference between crime and [[thoughtcrime]]. [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 18:02, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

:(edit conflict) There's also a difference between fucking children and ''advocating the legalization of'' fucking children. [[Thoughtcrime]], anyone? He is, at most, guilty of a borderline infraction of [[WP:USER]], but even that can be justified, as disclosures of personal bias are frameable as related to Wikipedia. Fred Bauder, so long as he does not break policy in his article edits your threat of indefinite block is baseless and [[WP:CIV|incivil]]. --[[User:Tjstrf|tjstrf]] 18:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

::Not a threat, FACT (from ''[[Chisum]]'', John Wayne speaking). [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 18:15, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Charmed, I'm sure. Forgive my bluntness, but I'm asking for a policy-grounded justification here, old movie quotes are useless. --[[User:Tjstrf|tjstrf]] 18:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::If I may, I think the content of this guy's user page go well beyond a disclosure of personal bias. I'm all for a statement in big bold letters on his user page that says "THIS USER IS A WANNABE PEDERAST" or something equally damning so that everyone knows just where his biases lay. The actual content, however, although practically screaming the very concept I quoted, is obviously unacceptable. While I think Fred could be a bit clearer on the motivations and reasons why it's unacceptable, I don't think he's wrong in saying that it is. [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] [[User talk:LtPowers|T]] 18:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::: I have edited Rookiee's user page to remove A) links to off-site pro-pedophile material, and B) the section about "His dream", which is not related to Rookiee's work on Wikipedia or a disclosure of his biases. Will this suffice? [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 18:55, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes, those were the objectionable parts. But then, it's not up to me. [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] [[User talk:LtPowers|T]] 18:57, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
:We need Rookiee himself to come around. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 21:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::" if user page activity becomes disruptive to the community or gets in the way of the task of building an encyclopedia, it must be modified to prevent disruption.", [[WP:USER#What_can_I_not_have_on_my_user_page.3F]].
:::The page remains very far from satisfactory. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 21:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

:::It didn't disrupt a thing until you started whining about it. It's not getting in the way of building an encyclopedia. If there's one thing we should have learned from the userbox wars, it's that disruption which is artificially induced by a single editor is not a CSD, let alone a block criteria. --[[User:Tjstrf|tjstrf]] 21:49, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
For reference, see http://www.perverted-justice.com/opinions/?article=14 and http://www.perverted-justice.com/opinions/?article=11
:I find it quite interesting that people assume that when I have a userbox saying, "This user wants a boyfriend" that people assume it means an underaged boy! Especially since that I've publicly stated that I've never had sex with anyone under the age of consent and that all my past boyfriends were adults! That means the entire premise of their hate-filled accusations is totally unfounded. I'm currently looking through PJ's article and I plan on making a response to it later. It's full of innaccurasies, biased terms, and I also argue that it's inciting violence and cyberstalking amongst the online community simply based that I'm attracted to minors. It's dangerous when a gang of thugs considers themselves the righteous gestapo of the 21st century. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 22:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::That aside, what do you intend to do here? We are tired of trying to explain user pages like yours to the national media. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 22:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
::I don't think the userbox is the major source of objection. More likely the passage (now removed) that started "In my dreams, I'd have a special young friend to love and help him through his boyhood..." Obviously, to you, this is an honest expression of your desires, whether acted on or not. But to the public, this is the statement of a pedophile who's being given safe haven on Wikipedia. [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] [[User talk:LtPowers|T]] 22:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

(4x edit conflict) On the articles mentioned: someone (aka PeeJ) doesn't understand how wiki-projects work, and addressing most of their complaints would go against our principles. It would also be reactionary and prove that Wikipedia could be shoved around. Also note their horrid habit of jumping to assumptions, they had to make no less than 4 corrections and apologies in [http://www.perverted-justice.com/opinions/?article=11 this article] for what would be WP:NPA violations here.

So long as Rookie can keep himself in line article-wise, I fail to see why Perverted Justice's article columns should have much impact here. His changes that I've seen, most of which I've opposed, have been less than disruptive, and he's been quite good about following process and proposing his changes through talk. Compared to the rants that the pedophilia pages draw, I'd call him a good contributor though a definite activist. Matt's changes should have addressed the majority of your concerns, and the presence of pro-anything-and-everything advocates is to be expected on Wikipedia.

My advice to Rookie is that he tone his user page down a bit more to avoid future complaints. --[[User:Tjstrf|tjstrf]] 22:09, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

: It would help if Fred Bauder would outline exactly what he thinks can and cannot be included on Rookiee's page, and what he still sees as problematic. However, I don't think it would be right to demand that Rookiee refrain from identifying himself as pedophile/pro-pedophila (on pain of being indef-banned), regardless of what hysterical sites like PeeJ are saying. Using his userpage for advocacy is a separate issue, and I think the current version has got rid of most, if not all, of that. [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt Crypto]] 22:40, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

It's amazing... I'm not even allowed the dignity to remove the "objectionable" material on my own after a matter of due process. I had not even been officially informed by anyone from the Wikimedia Foundation that any of my content on my userpage (which I thought was ''supposed'' to be my little "home" here) is objectionable, and it seems that everyone on here is kind of deciding my fate for me while I'm AFK.
:Your page was vandalized. I just did not restore it. Please fix it to suit yourself, but leave out material about having sex with boys. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 13:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Is having a dream of being able to live a normal, happy lifestyle objectionable? Would people have found my comment so objectionable if it were dealing with a more common heterosexual or homosexual orientation? I did not even mention the word "sex" in that passage, did I? Having a young boy to mentor and be a friend to in a loving, caring relationship is suddenly criminal? Or is this simply the clenching proof of the prejudice which I face elsewhere on the net?

:I like boys too, but I would certainly call the police if a boy I liked fell under your influence. Pedophilia is a crime. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 13:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

::Pedophilia is an attraction, not a crime. It does not have a magic property which renders someone unable to conform their behavior to the requirements of the law. Law-abiding pedophiles have just as much right to express their opinion on issues, and publicly announce they are pedophiles, without being harrassed, as people of other attractions do. If a 15 year old girl gets a clerical job in an office, we don't run and call the police because her boss is a "heterosexual", do we? It doesn't mean she is in iminent danger of being raped, does it? [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 00:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

My userpage or that passage was (is) not an act of violation of Wikimedia's terms of service. It is an inflection in what I as a person hope and dream for. I am not inciting violence, hate, bigotry, or even illegal material by stating it. By removing it, it is illustrating the struggle in which I and tens.. hundreds of thousands of like-minded people are facing each and every day of their lives.

:Activity which damages Wikipedia is not acceptable, whether or not there is some explicit list of all the ways you can seriously damage Wikipedia. You are doing it. Please conduct yourself so that you don't. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 13:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The only ones making my userpage an "activist" page is yourselves. --[[User:Rookiee|Rookiee Revolyob]] 06:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

:Blame the victim. [[User:Fred Bauder|Fred Bauder]] 13:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

: ''"Would people have found my comment so objectionable if it were dealing with a more common heterosexual or homosexual orientation?"'' No, they wouldn't have. ''"I did not even mention the word 'sex' in that passage, did I?"'' Yes, you did. Well, the word "sexuality", actually, but that's close enough. [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] [[User talk:LtPowers|T]] 13:23, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's some POV from a card carrying Parent Teachers Association member:
As a parent and as an educator, why must I wait? I have seen enough of the skewed and slanted pedophilic propaganda to know that this is not trolls from outside. Why should I care if there is any truth to the conspiracy theories, when all the evidence is there at Wikipedia of their own self defacement for whatever motive they have- Wikipedia allows their admin pedophiles too much administrative control over content to the point where it is in my opinion, unsafe for children to be exposed to this dis-information. As a parent and a concerned citizen, for the safety of my children and others children I feel it is my duty to warn others, and I believe that these news articles, whether truth or propagandist agenda, have some foundation in people being injuried by Wikipedia and not the other way around. The absolute power of influence over peoples lives, safety, and reputations by so called "thought crimes" like libel, enticement, and propaganda being most definitively in the hands of any media or man that dares to allign itself with what we conceive as a neutral source of truth, like a trusted teacher to a student, like an adult to a child, or like an encyclopedia to the masses.

Here is the bias: The laws relating to child sexual abuse are there to protect children from random male 'situational offenders' doing that to their own kids, someone elses kids, or semantically anybody but a poor persecuted pedophile, and that laws governing Age of Consent are just religious dogma prosecuting thought crimes and persecuting pedophiles and the rights of children and pedophiles to have sexual thoughts about eachother for their obviously historically world wide accepted sexual orientation./sarcasm

When does "thought" cease to be thought and become "communication" and 'enticement"? Thoughts are no longer just thoughts when they are typed out to be read online, or on paper when spoken out loud to a child, or even in imagery, drawings and photos. Wikipedia readers, some of whom may be children, are not reading people's minds- these are communications not just thoughts. These articles and User Talk pages are held to the higher standard that applys to communications under the laws of the State of Florida and federal law with regard to Title 18 (see U.S.C. 2242b)

If an Wikipedo-admin wants to tell my 12 year old daughter in California to come meet him in Utah for sex, that he thinks it is ok for men to fuck little girls as long as its done lovingly, and he tells her to read about this lovely "child love" theory in Wikipedia and to go see other "girls" extolling the virtues of fellatio with men in GirlChat and links to it from his User Talk page, then he has broken the law in all 50 states as well as federal statute on "solicitation of a minor for sex".

Under [[child sexual abuse]] Wikipedia had a subtopic on [[Age of consent]] and simple or informed consent. Someone wanted to add this fact to the section "At this time, there is overwhelming consensus in the US that it should be illegal for minors to have sex, as all 50 states in the US have an Age of Consent Law", a simple statement of fact easily linked and referenced, sounds like it might apply to some of this content correct? Rookiee and other Wikipedo admins wouldn't allow the references to stay- not for a week not for ten minutes- not very encyclopedic, IMO.

:::The laws vary widely. All make illegal sex between young children and adults, but not all criminalize sex between minors, and many are graduated, and do not criminalize sex unless the age difference is more than a certain number of years. Thus your statement that the existence of such laws proves a majority want sex to be illegal for minors is not factual. [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 04:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Rookiee, although not alone, is one of the worst offenders of the pro-pedophile POV content within any Wikipedia articles, period. He represents a deviant societal view that is non-factual, dangerous and unwelcome in polite company, especially where children may be present. He is leading a charge to have his deviance and advocacy of criminal behavior viewed with sympathy and equality with the rights of children, the very victims of his 'would be' crime.

The wolves in sheeps clothing are exposed.

Should parents wait to see why content remains unsafe for children for years on Wikipedia before they decide to block their children from exposure to the source? Nope.

If Wikipedia wishes to be a resource for school age children,

:::Perhaps you have Wikipedia confused with Disney-Pedia. :) [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 04:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

then those who use Wikipedia to advocate "child sexual abuse" as a civil rights issue and to encourage this to be accepted as a world view should be banned. The influence of their bias against the best interests of children is both obvious and subtle, but appears glaringly to those who are actually concerned parents and educators of children. It comes down to whom you are willing to alienate, parents and teachers of children or admitted pedophiles? Your choice.

:::I've always said if pedophilia didn't exist, parents and unionized public school teachers would have invented it, because it is the tactical nuclear weapon in their arguments that kids shouldn't have any civil rights. [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 04:44, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but [[User:69.76.224.95]] just claimed Rookiee was an admin. Which he isn't. If he were an admin, he probably wouldn't be taking this sort of random flak from people, or at least not other Wikipedians. Of course, it would be all the more reason for our oh-so-neutral Perverted Justice people to hate him and us, but whatever.

Frankly, in my view Child Sexual Abuse is a horrible crime, but Pedophilia is just another damn fetish, and they have as much a right to a balanced article as anyone else. If you want your kids to be "safe online", you really shouldn't be letting them online unsupervised in the first place. Wikipedia's about as tame as the internet ever gets. Forget pedophilia, have you read our articles on [[BDSM]] yet? --[[User:Tjstrf|tjstrf]] 06:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

==Fair-use image removed from your user page==

Hello, Rookiee. I've removed [[:Image:BLogo.jpg]] from your user page, as it is a copyrighted, unlicensed image that is being used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. Unfortunately, by Wikipedia policies, no fair-use images can be used on user pages; please see the ninth item of the [[Wikipedia:Fair use#Policy|Wikipedia fair-use policy]] and [[Wikipedia:Removal of fair use images]]. This image has not been deleted from any articles. If you have any questions, please let me know. —[[User:Bkell|Bkell]] ([[User talk:Bkell|talk]]) 01:30, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

:The designer of the BL logo released it for any use by anyone in any context as long it is not BL-negative. As such, characterizing it as a "non-free" image to which fair use applies is incorrect. Having a BLogo on your user page is legally no different than having a small Israeli flag on your user page, or any other public image one might use to indicate a special interest. [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 22:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

::A restriction that prohibits negative uses is un-free for Wikipedia purposes. This has been gone over time and again and is a settled matter. Such images can only be used in a Fair Use context. [[User:Morven|Matthew Brown (Morven)]] ([[User talk:Morven|T]]:[[Special:Contributions/Morven|C]]) 00:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

:::While this may be true of articles, which must be perpetually free and modifiable, use of the BLogo on Rookiee's user page, for the express purpose for which it was designed, is certainly not the use of a restricted image under "Fair Use", but rather a use for which the designer has given explicit permission. [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 01:19, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

::::The goal of Wikipedia is to be free for anyone to use for any purpose. This applies to user pages as well as articles; they are also part of Wikipedia. Moreover, there is even less justification for using non-free images on user pages than in articles. Hence it is [[Wikipedia:Fair use#Policy|Wikipedia policy]] to disallow all images on user pages that are not in the public domain or available under a free license. ("Used with permission" is not valid on Wikipedia; if an image is not in the public domain, and it has not been released under a free license, then it is considered to be a copyrighted, unlicensed image which can only be used under a claim of fair use.) Please remember that [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a blog, webspace provider, or social networking site|Wikipedia is not a webspace provider]], and Wikipedia user pages are not personal Web pages. —[[User:Bkell|Bkell]] ([[User talk:Bkell|talk]]) 02:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

== How is this not clearly harassment? ==

How is the vandalism currently going on here any different from what [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_in_popular_culture#Vandalism_of_Wikipedia.2C_in_popular_culture Stephen Colbert] tried to pull awhile back? [http://www.perverted-justice.com/opinions/?article=14 Perverted Justice] for political reasons has begun an attack on Mr. Revolyob solely on the basis of his sexual orientation. This is what they [http://nydailynews.com/front/story/450143p-378782c.html do] and since Mr. Revolyob is suffering from now. How is this any different than neo-nazis or Ku Klux Klan members harassing a wikipedia member by reason of their colour or nationality? Or complaining that a Jewish wikipedia editor had links to the Anti-Defamation League? While Mr. Revolyob should probably have documented his permission to use the images on his User Page, I fail to see how this other random and unsubstantiated edits being made here are anything other than outright ''harassment'' by Perverted Justice!

Or is this a case of everyone at Wiki being equal, just some others being slightly more ''equal''? I seem to recall this isn't the first time sexual orientation was used to go outside the '''established proceedures''' with regard to this person.

[[User:24.80.170.125|24.80.170.125]] 09:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)I*Love*Green*Olives, [http://ilgo.blogspot.com Defending the Paederotic] (Also being slammed in these recent attacks by Perverted Justice)

**Perhaps it's simply a matter of someone with such distorted views of the world editing things in a likewise distorted manner. Maybe that's it.—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Mytreasurz|Mytreasurz]] ([[User talk:Mytreasurz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mytreasurz|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.

::If we are going to ban views that are more than a specified number of standard deviations away from the center, in either direction, Perverted-Justice is a far larger target for being expunged than Rookiee is. I really get tired of organizations which try to silence their opponents instead of debating them, and try to incite violence against their opponents, and try to incite public pressure against companies that don't discriminate against their opponents. Also, isn't it getting a bit tiresome to hear these people claim that any view to the left of center constitutes "advocating and promoting" criminal activity? If I opppose the death penalty for littering, I'm not promoting littering, I'm opposing unreasonable penalties for littering, which are not the same as those for comparable non-littering crimes. Doesn't make me a litter-o-phile. [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 22:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Are you comparing littering to fucking kids? [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] [[User talk:LtPowers|T]] 22:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
::::Not that I am aware of. [[User:Hermitian|Hermitian]] 23:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

== Blocked... again.... ==

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==External Links==

* [http://eng.anarchopedia.org/Rookiee_Revolyob/WikipediaUserTalk "Rookiee Revolyob/WikipediaUserTalk"] (Original Anarchopedia Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Talk:Rookiee Revolyob/WikipediaUserTalk

2009-10-09T09:20:16Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Anarchopedia has recently been purging itself of CL related articles I thought this one may be informative for some BL and it would be a shame if it got deleted so I transferred it. Howeve...

Anarchopedia has recently been purging itself of CL related articles I thought this one may be informative for some BL and it would be a shame if it got deleted so I transferred it. However I apologize if this is inappropriate. - ImaginaryBoy

Rookiee Revolyob/WikipediaUserTalk

2009-10-09T09:12:42Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Can you please explain what your plan is for the re-arrangement of article on sex offender, [[child sex offenduiukjblkjblkjbkjbkjblkbting people's wording and data. Hardly anyone is ci...

User talk:Bigham

2009-08-21T12:12:37Z

ImaginaryBoy:

My apologies I had not thoroughly read many of the articles I submitted. I totally understand what you mean though and definitely don't want to get anyone in trouble for defamation or giving the appearance that we are using our enemies disgusting tactics. I will stick to less controversial subjects. Thanks for the warning. [[User:ImaginaryBoy|ImaginaryBoy]]

I wish to copy some articles from BoyWiki to Newgon Wiki (namely the articles on BoyWiki and Lifeline) what do I need to include, is a link to the original article sufficient? [[User:ImaginaryBoy|ImaginaryBoy]]

User talk:NewgonAdmin

2009-08-16T23:35:54Z

ImaginaryBoy:

Sorry, I was overzealous and a bit confused by what you meant, my fault. In future any exchanges I do will be via the Mirror Project. [[User:ImaginaryBoy|ImaginaryBoy]]

User talk:NewgonAdmin

2009-08-16T23:34:54Z

ImaginaryBoy: Removing all content from page

User talk:NewgonAdmin

2009-08-16T23:33:22Z

ImaginaryBoy:

Sorry, I was overzealous and a bit confused by what you meant, my fault. In future any exchanges I do will be via the Mirror Project. [[User:ImaginaryBoy|ImaginaryBoy]]

User talk:NewgonAdmin

2009-08-16T23:27:43Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Sorry, I was overzealous and a bit confused by what you meant, my fault. In future any exchanges I do will be via the Mirror Project.

Sorry, I was overzealous and a bit confused by what you meant, my fault. In future any exchanges I do will be via the Mirror Project.

User talk:Bigham

2009-08-11T07:55:27Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: My apologies I had not thoroughly read many of the articles I submitted. I totally understand what you mean though and definitely don't want to get anyone in trouble for defamation or givi...

Sexting

2009-08-10T06:54:51Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''"Sexting"''' is a term coined by the American media to describe the use of text messaging for sexual purposes - sending nude or suggestive pictures, sexual...

'''"Sexting"''' is a term coined by the [[National Profile: America|American]] media to describe the use of text messaging for sexual purposes - sending nude or suggestive pictures, sexual messages, and so on. It is essentially a technologically updated version of the "I'll show you mine..." game. The trend has worried many; while some continue to be horrified by young people's sexuality, most take issue with the implications of this electronic form of teenage sexuality. The most publicized sexting cases have involved pictures (originally intended for one person) that are circulated among school populations, prompting many to speculate that such pictures (often classified as [[child pornography]]) eventually make their way to the internet.

The internet, of course, is an old friend of those who object to child sexuality. The standard arguments regarding internet content have been applied to sexting: nothing will stay private, everything is permanent, nothing is truly anonymous, and everyone could be a predator.

The "sexting" meme hit the [[National Profile: Britain|British]] media in the August of 2009.<ref>[http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Sexts-Young-People-Sexual-Picture-Messages-To-One-Another-Charity-Beatbullying-Warns-Parents/Article/200908115353366?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15353366_Sexts%3A_Young_People_Sexual_Picture_Messages_To_One_Another%2C_Charity_Beatbullying_Warns_Parents Warning To Parents Over 'Sext' Message Trend]</ref>

==Frequency==
[http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/ The National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy] released a [http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/sextech/PDF/SexTech_PressReleaseFIN.pdf study (pdf)] in December 2008 that concluded about one in five teens have sent or posted a nude or semi-nude picture of themselves on the internet. The study was conducted online by an independent firm; it queried 653 teens aged 13-19.

Some of the more interesting findings of the study are:
*20% of teens (13-19) say they have sent/posted nude or semi-nude pictures
*39% of teens say they have sent/posted sexually suggestive messages
*75% of teens say sending sexually suggestive content "can have serious negative consequences" (this is slightly misleading; see the study for clarification).

==Legal Action==
Legal consequences of sexting remain murky. Phillip Alpert, 18, was convicted for sending child pornography and forced to register as a sex offender after he sent nude photographs of his 16-year-old girlfriend to her friends and family. He has since been kicked out of college, lost many friends, and has had trouble finding a job. [http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/04/07/sexting.busts/index.html]

A Pennsylvania case, however, had a much different outcome. The case involved two photos of three teenage girls (one with bras on, one with exposed breasts). A district attorney attempted to force the girls to participate in a "re-education" program, threatening child pornography charges. With the help of the ACLU, a federal judge ruled that the district attorney could not charge the girls with the production of child pornography.

In May 2009, the Missouri Senate amended an omnibus crime bill, potentially making sexting a class B misdemeanor, though the minor would not have to register as a sex offender. [http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/political-fix/2009/05/sexting-could-become-a-misdemeanor-for-minors/]

==Jesse Logan==
Jessica Logan, an 18-year-old American girl, committed suicide in July 2008, after having images of her nude body circulated at her school. The media - and Jesse's mother, Cynthia Logan - have singled out the photos as the cause of Jesse's suicide, and now uphold Jesse as what can happen from sexting.[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29546030/]

In May 2009, Senators Bob Menendez and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz introduced The Safety Internet Act. The act proposes to provide funding for non-profit organizations concerned with internet safety, in order to allow such organizations to work with schools and integrate internet safety into classroom curricula.[http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/13/congress-to-push-for-education-on-sexting/]. Cynthia Logan attended the press conference, and stressed that her daughter's school did not take action.

==References==

{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.thenationalcampaign.org/sextech/ Sex and Tech - The National Campaign]
*[http://erstarnews.com/content/view/7770/26 Beware of sexting]
*[http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/parent-alert-teens-and-porn/article125454.html Parent Alert: Teens and Porn]
*[http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=whats_the_matter_with_teen_sexting What's the Matter With Teen Sexting?]
*[http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hilden/20090513.html Why Sexting Should Not Be Prosecuted as "Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor"]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Sexting "Sexting"]

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SOR problems

2009-08-10T06:53:01Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Sex offender registries (SORs)''' pose a number of problems for human rights, law-enforcement, budgeting and other areas of concern in public life. This articl...

'''[[Sex offender registry|Sex offender registries]] (SORs)''' pose a number of problems for human rights, law-enforcement, budgeting and other areas of concern in public life. This article lists these problems.

*'''Children''' are regularly added to registers, fuelling concerns over their true potential to "protect the vulnerable". 7,500 offenders were added to the Texas register after committing crimes as children ([http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6163587.html Texas Department of Public Safety/Chron, 2008]).
*'''Failure to discriminate''' between actual danger and alternative sexuality. The public list conflates consensual crimes with rape. For example, ''"Justin Fawcett, whose name was among 22 penned in a 14-year-old girl's sex diary, was found dead in his bedroom Friday [...] The girl's diary later revealed she had been sneaking out of her parents' Bloomfield Township home in the middle of the night to have oral and anal sex with 22 boys and men. [...] In a May 2002 interview with the Free Press, the girl conceded that she was a predator and a victim: "I declare I am both. Yes, I'm a victim. I was a victim who was deceived by my own emotions and ignorance, of misplaced confidence, a victim of my own fantasies . . . Yes, predator for I chase people who themselves were victims of misplaced confidence.""'' The [http://cfcamerica.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=507:the-girls-diary-later-revealed-she-had-been-sneaking-out-of-her-parents-bloomfield-township-home-in-the-middle-of-the-night-to-have-oral-and-anal-sex-with-22-boys-and-men-&catid=3:news&Itemid=1 case] mentioned also brought up the issue of unconstitutional, retroactive law.
:The [http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/Sex_offenders_try_to_erase_laws_marking_them_for_life.html case] of Martin is also pertinent. ''"It's true that a decade ago, he was convicted of sexually abusing a 16-year-old girl who was half his age. But the registry doesn't divulge that his victim was his girlfriend who now is his common-law wife, with whom he has three children. Glancing at his profile, there's little to distinguish him from the repeat pedophiles and violent rapists who are among the 54,000-plus registered sex offenders in the state's database. “I just can't equate my offense with the guy who sat next to me in my therapy sessions who raped his 5-year-old stepson,” said Martin, 42. He asked that his last name not be used for this article for fear that his children will be stigmatized. [...] Linda Ingraham, a psychologist in Dallas who has treated sex offenders in her private practice, said most people would be surprised at the number of low-risk misdemeanor offenders. She said she's probably treated 200 people who were forced to register because they were caught several times having consensual sex in a park."''

==External link==

*[http://www.operationawareness.com/whats_new_27_SORNA_flaws.html Operation Awareness - SOR Flaws]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/SOR_problems "SOR problems"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Criminal Justice and Immigration Act (UK)

2009-08-10T06:46:37Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: The '''Criminal Justice and Immigration Act''' is an Act of Parliament in the United Kingdom. It was given Royal Assent on May 8, 2008 [http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2007-08/...

The '''Criminal Justice and Immigration Act''' is an [[Act of Parliament]] in the [[United Kingdom]]. It was given Royal Assent on May 8, 2008 [http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2007-08/criminaljusticeandimmigration.html]

==Indecent images of children==

Section 68 amends Section 7 of the [[Protection of Children Act (1978)]]. A reference to a pseudo-photograph will now include -

:(a) a tracing or other image, whether made by electronic or other means (of whatever nature)—

:::(i) which is not itself a photograph or pseudo-photograph, but

:::(ii) which is derived from the whole or part of a photograph or pseudo-photograph (or a combination of either or both); and

:(b) data stored on a computer disc or by other electronic means which is capable of conversion into an image within paragraph (a) [http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldbills/041/08041.50-56.html#j405]

Under Section 1 of the Protection of Children Act, it is an offence to take, make, possess, distribute or show an [[indecent images of children|indecent photograph or pseudo-photograph]], or a reference to such an image. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&activetextdocid=1502060]

Section 68 of the Act also allows the [[Secret Intelligence Service]] to engage in acts which are prohibited by the Protection of Children Act.

==Offences committed abroad==

Section 71 of the Act [http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldbills/041/08041.50-56.html#jNC35] amends Section 72 of the Sexual Offences Act, allowing the [[Crown Prosecution Service|CPS]] to prosecute British nationals for acts done legally abroad, if the acts are contrary to laws listed in Schedule 2 [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&ActiveTextDocId=821091] of the [[Sexual Offences Act (2003)|Sexual Offences Act]]. This removes the requirement of [[dual criminality]].

==Sex offenders==

Section 139 of the Act allows the Police to disclose information about sex offenders to members of the public [http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldbills/041/08041.100-106.html#jNC38] and Section 141 of the Act forces sex offenders to disclose any information which is requested by the Secretary of State (or one of his/her delegates) [http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldbills/041/08041.100-106.html#jNC40].

==External Links==

*[http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2007-08/criminaljusticeandimmigration.html Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill at Parliament.uk]
*[http://anu.nfshost.com/2008/the-contemporary-moral-crusade Article about the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill, at anu.nfshost.com]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Criminal_Justice_and_Immigration_Act "Criminal Justice and Immigration Act"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Friedrich Nietzsche

2009-08-10T06:34:50Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Friedrich Nietzsche''' was a German philosopher of the nineteenth century, known for his challenges to conventional morality and religion. Nietzsche was sympathetic towards [[pederasty]...

'''Friedrich Nietzsche''' was a German philosopher of the nineteenth century, known for his challenges to conventional morality and religion. Nietzsche was sympathetic towards [[pederasty]]:
:"The erotic relationship of men to youths was, on a level which we cannot grasp, the necessary, sole prerequisite of all male education (more or less in the way love affairs and marriage were for a long time the only way to bring about the higher education of women); the whole idealism of strength of the Greek character was thrown into that relationship, and the treatment of young people has probably never again been so aware, loving, so thoroughly geared to their excellence (virtus), as it was in the sixth and fifth centuries-‑-in accordance with Hölderlin's beautiful line, "denn liebend giebt der Sterbliche vom Besten" (for loving the mortal gives of his best)." (''[http://nietzsche.holtof.com/Nietzsche_human_all_too_human/sect5_signs_of_higher_and_lower_culture.htm Human, All Too Human]'')

There is [http://www.f-nietzsche.de/ortlepp_vortrag_e.htm some evidence] to suggest that Nietzsche was romantically mentored by the poet Ernst Ortlepp during his childhood and adolescence.

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche "Friedrich Nietzsche"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Clarence Tripp

2009-08-10T06:29:47Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Clarence A. Tripp''', Ph. D. (1919 - May 17, 2003) was a psychologist, photographer, therapist, writer, gay activist, and researcher for Dr. Alfred Kinsey. Born in 1919 in Denton, T...

'''Clarence A. Tripp''', Ph. D. (1919 - May 17, 2003) was a psychologist, photographer, therapist, writer, gay activist, and researcher for Dr. [[Alfred Kinsey]]. Born in 1919 in Denton, Texas, USA, Tripp studied at the Rochester Institute of Technology, and was a Naval Veteran.

After establishing himself as a photographer for Warner Bros, he went on to work in the same function with Alfred Kinsey at the [[Kinsey Institute]] for Research in Sex, Gender and Reproduction in Bloomington, Indiana from 1948 to 1956. He earned a Ph.D. in Clinical psychology from New York University. In ''The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln,'' C. A. Tripp contends that Abraham Lincoln had erotic attractions and attachments to men throughout his life, from his youth to his presidency.

==On pedophilia==

In the later years of his life, Clarence Tripp was a valuable source to researchers of adult-minor sexual attractions and relations.

Interviewed in Yorkshire Television's [[Kinsey's Paedophiles|unsympathetic "expose"]] of Kinsey's techniques, Tripp portrays quite frankly the realities of Kinsey's research and his subjects. It becomes clear that Tripp is untroubled by the sexual diversity uncovered in part by his research photography with Kinsey.

==External links==

*[http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=C.A._Tripp William Percy Bio for Tripp]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpN_QTRcrVQ Kinsey's Paedophiles video (annotated)]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Clarence_Tripp "Clarence Tripp"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Bill Thompson

2009-08-10T06:23:13Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Dr '''Bill Thompson''', formerly a Reading University academic, is known widely for his publications on pornography, moral panic and censorship. He has also published on debunking false al...

Dr '''Bill Thompson''', formerly a Reading University academic, is known widely for his publications on pornography, moral panic and censorship. He has also published on debunking false allegations of child abuse and [[SRA|satanic panic]] and has stood as an expert witness in numerous child abuse cases. Thompson has legal clearance to investigate potentially [[Indecent images of children|indecent]] images of children, using this to advise defendants on their pleas.

==Raid==

In 2002, Thompson's home and office were raided for [[child pornography]] after police failed to take into account his expert status. The case was later dropped, but only after a damaging, year long suspension from his university.

==See also==

*[[Ralph Underwager]] - An [[American]] who followed a similar career path
*[[Ken Plummer]] - Thompson was a student of Plummer's

==External Links==

*[http://moralpanicmyth.net/home.htm Thompson's own Web Site]
*[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1388705/Silenced-witness.html Raid]
*[http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storyCode=174130&sectioncode=26 Countersuit]
*[http://www.reading.ac.uk/AcaDepts/lw/Sociol/publish/people/academic/bill/bio.htm Reading profile]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Bill_Thompson "Bill Thompson"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Alfred Kinsey

2009-08-10T06:02:53Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Alfred Kinsey''' was the father of sexology. His work in the area continues to be profoundly influential. Some of his research concerned adult-child sexual contacts: :"The contacts oft...

'''Alfred Kinsey''' was the father of sexology. His work in the area continues to be profoundly influential. Some of his research concerned adult-child sexual contacts:

:"The contacts often involved considerable affection, and some of the older females in the sample felt that their pre-adolescent experiences had contributed favourably to their later socio-sexual development. On the other hand, some 80 per cent of the children had been emotionally upset or frightened by their contacts with adults. A small portion had been seriously disturbed; but in most instances the reported fright was nearer the level that children will show when they see insects, spiders, or other objects against which they have been adversely conditioned. If a child were not culturally conditioned, it is doubtful if it would be disturbed by sexual approaches of the sort which had usually been involved in these histories. It is difficult to understand why a child, except for its cultural conditioning, should be disturbed at having its genitalia touched, or disturbed at seeing the genitalia of other persons, or disturbed at even more specific sexual contacts. [...] Some of the more experienced students of juvenile problems have come to believe that the emotional reaction of the parents, police officers, and other adults who discover that the child has had such a contact, may disturb the child more seriously than the sexual contacts themselves. The current hysteria over sex offenders may very well have serious effects on the ability of many of these children to work out sexual adjustments some years later in their marriages."

:Sexual Behavior in the Human Female, [http://books.google.ca/books?id=9GpBB61LV14C&pg=RA1-PA121&lpg=RA1-PA121&ots=yBqHse5uyO&sig=9tFqv9JjIDQkQpT65_4jfyfn5UE p.121]

==See also==

*[[Judith Reisman]] - Anti-Kinsey agenda.
*[[Research]]

==External Links==

*[http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/ The Kinsey Institute]
*[http://kinseysyndrome.com/ The Kinsey Syndrome] - Book that blames Kinsey for child abductions.
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey "Alfred Kinsey"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

[[Category:Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]]

Alvin Malesky

2009-08-10T05:57:02Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''L. Alvin Malesky''' is the author of a much quoted [http://www.notquiteroyal.net/kishtrethya/Essays,%20etc/moremindsets.pdf paper] which alleged [[Cognitive distortion (pseudoscience)|c...

'''L. Alvin Malesky''' is the author of a much quoted [http://www.notquiteroyal.net/kishtrethya/Essays,%20etc/moremindsets.pdf paper] which alleged [[Cognitive distortion (pseudoscience)|cognitive distortion]] in the [[BoyChat]] community.

==Commentary==

'''Newgon.com'''

It's hard to take Malesky's conclusion of distorted thinking among [[Boylove]]rs seriously. If he ''believes'' that certain opinions indicate distorted thinking, and then "discovers" that such opinions are common among any community of individuals, this does not amount to proof of subjective beliefs. The "distortions" he treats as axiomatic to his study are not justified as such, and could potentially be nothing more than historical or cultural differences; differences he fails to establish as pathological before embarking on his study.

In light of this, the true quality and nature of Malesky's work is perhaps comparable to investigative journalism.

==References==

*Malesky, L. Alvin, Jr.; Ennis, Liam (2004). "[http://www.notquiteroyal.net/kishtrethya/Essays,%20etc/moremindsets.pdf Supportive distortions: an analysis of posts on a pedophile Internet message board]," ''Journal of Addictions & Offender Counseling'', 24(2), 92-100.

==External links==

*[http://paws.wcu.edu/malesky/ Malesky website] - with contact details.
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Alvin_Malesky "Alvin Malesky"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Stephanie Dallam

2009-08-10T05:50:33Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Stephanie Dallam''' R.N., M.S.N. is a pediatric nurse and child-protection advocate who uses science to advance a victimological point of view, sometimes also accusing s...

'''Stephanie Dallam''' R.N., M.S.N. is a pediatric nurse and child-protection advocate who uses science to advance a [[victimology|victimological]] point of view, sometimes also accusing scientists of supporting and aiding [[Child Abuse]]. Lacking the mainstream credibility of [[David Finkelhor]] and the right-religious, media-friendly credentials of [[Judith Reisman]], Dallam has thus far been limited to occasional scientific advocacy, most notably her attacks on [[Bruce Rind]].

Dallam, who is allied to a victimology-oriented advocacy group known as [[The Leadership Council]], is said to have worked as "family nurse, practitioner [and] in pediatric intensive care for ten years at the University of Missouri Hospital and Clinics [and as a] nursing instructor at the University of Missouri—Columbia. She has written numerous articles on issues related to the welfare of children".[http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=7&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leadershipcouncil.org%2Fdocs%2FNova%2520Conference%2520brochure.pdf&ei=k4MwSNaJOpreQbjWof0C&usg=AFQjCNHL1CjiwrrByfNWG6xbrUJwUHnenw&sig2=PzWMhyD1_kb0g5o7Bc1yVA]

Dallam's quotes in the media suggest that she sees herself as part of a [[pedophilia]] [[science war]]:

:''""What the pedophiles are looking for is some group of professionals to champion their cause," said Stephanie Dallam, a Leadership Council researcher. "Then they'll come up with a derogatory term to deride anyone who disagrees with them. Their claim will be to objective science, even though their science is sloppy and terrible.""''[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/star_tribune.htm]

:''""Is it open season on our children?" [...] "That is just one hill in the battle" pedophiles are waging, she says. "Once they have the 15- to 17-year-olds, then it will be OK with the 12- and 13-year olds.""''[http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/04/17/adult-child-sex.htm]

:''"The purpose of the present article is to examine whether Rind et al. (1998) is best characterized as unpopular science or pedophile propaganda."''[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/dallam_02.htm]

==Rind "Debunking"==

She is probably best known as the author of a 2002 [http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/dallam/5.html paper] that attempted to "debunk" the work of [[Rind et al]] (also see [[Research]]) and expose it as propaganda. In response, Rind has pointed to numerous misrepresentations, distortions and errors in the Dallam paper. Whilst Dallam accuses her opponent of abusing scientific principles, her own critique is for the most part reducible to a guilt by association argument.

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Stephanie_Dallam "Stephanie Dallam"] (Original Newgon WIki Article)

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The Leadership Council

2009-08-09T06:37:56Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''The Leadership Council on Child Abuse & Interpersonal Violence''' (f. 1998, formerly the Leadership Council on Mental Health, Justice, and the Media) is a Philadelphia based "non-profit...

'''The Leadership Council on Child Abuse & Interpersonal Violence''' (f. 1998, formerly the Leadership Council on Mental Health, Justice, and the Media) is a Philadelphia based "non-profit" organisation composed almost wholly of pro-[[victimology]] psychoanalysts, academics of child abuse/trauma, psychiatric and mental health professionals.

The group's basic aim is to plan and conduct research, and liaise with the media, promoting the role of [[psychiatry]] in addressing child trauma. The Leadership Council's research, statistical manipulation and advocacy work has frequently sought to legitimise a series of profitable yet esoteric, unfounded and highly contested psychiatric trauma theories, including [[repressed memories]] and [[dissociative identity disorder]]. Many members of the Leadership Council are known for having agitated in favour of the discredited [[SRA]] phenomenon. The Leadership Council's work is most probably intended to provide a scientific basis for its members and their allies' paid work - a highly profitable institution to uphold in a national and local economy rooted so firmly in mental health. The organisation is notable for having published Secretary [[Stephanie Dallam]]'s poorly researched critique of [[Rind et al]].

The current president is [[Paul J. Fink]] - a former president of the [[American Psychiatric Association]]. The official HQ of the Leadership Council corresponds to the address of Fink's apartment, in a suburb of Philadelphia, within roughly equal walking distance of his place of work and Temple University - where [[Bruce Rind]] was working when he published his famous study.

==[[Bruce Rind]] on LC composition==

:''Fink's group claims to be comprised of "many of the nation's most prominent mental health leaders" whose mission it is to "insure the public receives accurate information about mental health issues" (Leadership Council press release, May 24, 1999). In fact, the publications of its members suggest that the Leadership Council is composed mainly of professionals who advocate for the validity of repressed memories and multiple personality disorder (MPD) as well as for recovered memory therapy as the means to treat these alleged problems. Central to this focus is the belief that CSA is pervasively and intensely traumatic and pathogenic -- a belief that our meta-analysis challenged.''[http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/science_text.htm]

Further analysis of the Leadership Council's political and professional agenda can be found [http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/rbt/condemn_text.htm#The%20Leadership%20Council here].

==Rebuttals of LC disinformation==
*[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/rtbval.htm The Validity and Appropriateness of Methods, Analyses, and Conclusions in Rind et al. (1998)]
*[http://members.shaw.ca/imaginarycrimes/halseycheit1.htm A Response to Ross Cheit's "The Legend of Robert Halsey"]

==External link==

*[http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/ Official Site]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/The_Leadership_Council "The Leadership Council"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Law and Order: SVU (TV series)

2009-08-09T06:22:04Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Law & Order: Special Victims Unit''' (debuting in 1999, also known as '''Law & Order: SVU''' or simply '''SVU''') is a long-running American police procedural TV series about the Sex Cr...

'''Law & Order: Special Victims Unit''' (debuting in 1999, also known as '''Law & Order: SVU''' or simply '''SVU''') is a long-running American police procedural TV series about the Sex Crimes Unit in a fictional version of the 16th Precinct of the New York City Police Department.

The show is notable for its ostensibly sympathetic depiction of zealous and sometimes corrupt detectives as part of the [[child abuse industry]] and [[child sexual abuse]] prosecution apparatus. SVU detectives frequently ask suspects whether they are members of [[NAMbLA]], and many episodes of SVU are based on high-profile real-life cases such as that of [[Michael Jackson]]. It is hard to determine whether some of SVU's more blatant examples of [[emotional reasoning]] and [[civil rights]] violations are intentionally ironic on the part of the show's writers.

SVU bases its depiction of "deviant" psychology on the modern "uncertainty" [[discourse]] of sexual perversion as an epidemic and widespread threat to social institutions, primarily childhood. Episodes typically begin with the following voiceover by Steven Zirnkilton:

:''"In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Special Victims Unit. These are their stories."''

Owing to this uncertainty discourse, one particularly ironic feature of SVU is the clichéd and predictable [[psychoanalysis]] that often leads to implausible suspicions and false positives.

==Ratings and proliferation==

SVU is currently the highest-rated series of the Law & Order franchise, and is one of [[NBC]]'s top rated shows, frequently placing 30-15 on the Nielsen system. Original versions of the show are frequently aired on the [[National profile: Britain|British]] Channel Five, and twelve shows were even re-shot for a successful run in Russia.

==Commentary==
'''[http://www.albany.edu/scj/jcjpc/vol14is1/britto.pdf "Does 'Special' Mean Young, White and Female? Deconstructing the Meaning of 'Special' in Law & Order: Special Victims Unit," in the ''Journal of Criminal Justice and Popular Culture'', 14(1)]'''

:''""Law & Order: SVU" frequently portrays detectives using renegade tactics in order to get confessions and convictions. [...] The use of such tactics (excessive force, control talk, violations of police procedure) are rarely questioned or frowned upon, instead they are treated as a normal part of policing. On “SVU” there is an average of 1.12 civil rights violations per episode; the most common violations are use of excessive force and failure to read a suspect their Miranda warnings. These violations were never punished in the 2003-2004 season of “SVU”. On the rare occasion that a violation of civil rights was mentioned by a character on the program it was in the form of a verbal warning to “calm down” so that the case would not be jeopardized. More typically, civil rights violations were shown as part of doing business with heinous criminals. The importance of civil rights to the United States justice system are almost never mentioned on “SVU”, instead violations of these rights are normalized and the implicit message is that suspects and offenders have too many rights. Combine this with frequent control talk, which implies an “us” versus “them” mentality, from police officers and the impression you are left with is that police officers need to resort to any means necessary to protect “us” from “them.” (Cavendar & Fishman, 1998; Eschholz et al., 2004).''

:[...]

:''The images typically presented on “SVU” and other crime dramas are of an extremely efficient police department that can be relied on to get the job done, even if it requires bending the rules and violating a defendants civil rights (Sparks, 1995; Eschholz et al, 2004). The normalization of civil rights violations is combined with the use of control talk that emphasizes the positive function of the police and the criminal justice system as agents of control in protecting society from a variety of evils, while demonizing offending populations (Cavender & Fishman, 1998). The end result is a reduction of the understanding of crime causes to evil offenders and a reduction of crime solutions to policing and tough sentences."''

==External links==

*[http://www.nbc.com/Law_&_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit/ Official site]
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_%26_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit Wikipedia] - Detail.
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Law_%26_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit_episodes Episodes] - Wikipedia.
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Law_%26_Order:_Special_Victims_Unit_characters Characters] - Wikipedia.
*[http://www.boychat.org/messages/1160694.htm Review] - A [[BoyChat|BC]] poster reviews an episode depicting a non-offending teenage pedophile.
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Law_and_Order:_SVU "Law and Order: SVU"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
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List of anti-pedophile quotes

2009-08-09T06:18:32Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: This article lists some selected quotes which show the extreme hatred faced by pedophiles and the pathology and idiocy of many of the individuals who discriminate against pedophile...

This article lists some selected quotes which show the extreme hatred faced by [[pedophiles]] and the pathology and idiocy of many of the individuals who [[discriminate]] against pedophiles.

==Quotes==
:[When questioned about his anti-pedophile organisation's role in child protection] "''No, it’s because pedophiles are disgusting people. Like you. That’s why we go after them. Protecting kids is just a side benefit.''"
:"''My goal is not to protect minors. It's to go after pedophiles.''"
- '''[[Xavier von Erck]], "[http://anu.nfshost.com/miscellaneous/xavier-von-erck IM]"'''

:"''Now, he never said in this note whether or not he had acted on his attraction, did he? But he did say that he kept himself distant from his own children "so that I would not harm you in anyway.''"

:''I think that statement is very important, and most especially considering they are his final words. And yet....he goes on to hurt them anyway doesn't he? Just like all pedoheads sooner or later they just can't keep their mouths shut. He's killing himself because he can't bear being a filthy pedophile and he's gonna slap down everybody in his life as he goes. Never mind that his children and family will be suffering over his death, now they also have to deal with the shock and shame that their loved one was a filthy, stinking pedophile. He made his family victims in the end, didn't he?''"

[..]

:''Society is bad for thinking you're all wasted use of good oxygen? I don't know, it doesn't sound right, because we just talked about this the other day. And all I can think is''

:''Nickless!
:Dude!!
:It's working already!!!''

[..]

:''I'm not sympathetic at all. In fact, the proudest day of my life will be when one of them kills himself and leaves a note saying''

:::''"I can't take it anymore. Stitches drove me to it"''"

- '''[[Stitches77|H., Marina]], (2007). "[http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/2007/06/its-working.html It's working!]"'''

:"''[[Nigel Leigh Oldfield|Nigel Oldfeild]], your days are numbered. Our allies in the [[BNP]] and in [[Noncewatch|Redwatch]] are getting closer to you everyday. You will pay for what you have done, and no man, God, or government will save you. 88''"

- '''YarlSoutan, "[http://www.psychforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=219517&highlight=swear+fucking+god#219517 Little Girls]"'''

:"''I'm coming over tonight and put a bullet through your head - did you hear me? I'm coming to put a bullet through your worthless empty fucking head so you can drown in your own fucking blood.''"

- '''Anonymous, "[http://www.qrd.org/qrd/usa/california/1993/dean.defends.pedophile.journal Answerphone message to the Academic, John DeCecco]"'''

:"''[T]he psycology and thought prossess of the pedofile is so vastly different from normal humanity as to consider them not to be truly human. [...] Pedofiles have hightened sences of touch smell and taste. They are more animal than human. [...] At an estimated '''3 billion''' pedophiles with in the U.S. alone and an estimated cost of $200 a day matanance for each one, It would quickly drain our economy to do this.[incarcerate, bold added]''"

- '''Unknown, "[http://www.webring.com/hub?ring=stoppedos Stopping pedophilia: The only solution and why]"'''

:"''Paedophile is a diagnostic name for those who have a sexual interest in pre-pubescent children. We will now refer to them as "Child Sex Abusers.''"

[..]

:''The interest in the child is SINISTER.''"

- '''[[Marilyn Hawes]], "[http://www.enoughabuse.co.uk/page106.htm Definition of a Paedophile]"'''

:''"We find out how much guts they've got ... as one of them committed suicide yesterday and another one had a big go, but he must not have had the courage to do it properly''.

:''"If they all went and did it first up, we wouldn't have this problem. They must be guilty if they commit suicide ... maybe I am too harsh but I've got no time for that."''

- '''Johnson, Vaughan MP. "[http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23821079-661,00.html Vaughan Johnson calls for pedophiles to kill themselves]"'''

:"''you need to see the wood through the trees, if we kill all paedophiles then children and their parents will no longer be supressed'''.

:''DEATH TO ALL PAEDOPHILES''"

- '''[[Cole Branel]]. (2007). "[http://www.mrcrip.com/blog/childrens-dance-festival-no-cameras-allowed-at-tudor-rose-festival/ Childrens Dance Festival - No Cameras Allowed at Tudor Rose Festival!]"'''

:"''For any long time readers you will know my views - Death and execution to all all paedophiles and that would apply to all types of downloaded child porn and not just the very worst.''"

'''[[Cole Branel]], (2007). "[http://www.mrcrip.com/blog/chris-langham-paedophile-or-honest-research/ Chris Langham - Paedophile or Honest Research?]"'''

:''"if ever there was a subject that makes me foam at the mouth like a rabid dog, it is those sick, disgusting, depraved people we all loathe - Paedophiles''.

:''Andrew Barker - Convicted Paedophile from Worthing West Sussex. I’m sick of this moderate society we live in, I’m sick of the do-gooders who think there is good in everyone. I’m sick of religion and of religious people. I’m sick of the nanny state authority''.

:''Believe me, we live in a dictatorship, not a democratic society! It’s just that most people are too stupid to realise'''.

:''BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY - LET’S RID THIS ONCE GREAT NATION OF THE SCUM!''

:''I’m sick of it all because the millions of decent people who live in the UK are subjected to inferior lives because the liberal people in authority insist on keeping scum such as paedophiles alive.''"

- '''[[Cole Branel]], (2007). "[http://www.mrcrip.com/blog/kill-paedophiles-like-andrew-barker/ Kill Paedophiles like Andrew Barker]"'''

:"''Why didn't you use that rifle to kill yourself? It's what you wanted to do. It's what you still want to do. Coward. Don't presume that you have the right to judge me. You don't. But I have judged you. And I find you guilty and deserving of a slow and merciless death for all the pain and suffering that you have caused.''"

:"''how about a final "solution", filth? step into my oven, it's time for a pedophile holocaust!''"

:"''And if the loss of my soul is the price I have to pay for destroying evil like you, I will do it gladly and without hesitation. Can you say the same, filth?''" (etc)

- '''User comments on a now deleted blog.'''

:"''Chronic sexual predators [to Vachss, pedophiles] have crossed an osmotic membrane. They can’t step back to the other side - our side. And they don't want to. If we don't kill them or release them, we have but one choice. Call them monsters and isolate them.... I’ve spoken to many predators over the years. They always exhibit amazement that we do not hunt them. And that when we capture them, we eventually let them go. Our attitude is a deliberate interference with Darwinism - an endangerment of our species.''"

- '''[[Andrew Vachss]], (1993). Quoted in [http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/j/p/jpj1/sin.htm "Go and Sin No More": Therapy and Exorcism in the Contemporary Rhetoric of Deviance].'''

:''"Now, me, paedophiles, if it was left to me, I would hurt them so much it would upset and shock everybody in the country. I can think of really nasty things that I would like to see done to them. And I wouldn't care if it didn't change their behaviour - it would just certainly put them on notice that if you do this, you will have your skin removed, you will be made to go around to do really painful things before you're allowed to die.''"

:"''I’d feed all paedophiles into a tree shredder (...) and anything left the police can have.''"

- '''Richard Griffiths, (2006). Quoted in [http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,,1884165,00.html A break in the clouds] and [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article19663.ece Potter Star in perv rant].'''

:''"The best thing us anti’s can do ist expose all of you and let the vigilantes beat your fucking brains out"''

- '''"[[Frank Appleford]], (2007). "[http://newgon.com/blog/?p=9#comment-125 Finished]"'''

:''"Just to clarify gentlemen, I am neither irrational nor vengeful, and I am most certainly no fool. The majority of Canadians support the reinstatement of the death penalty and have done so ever since it was abolished in Canada in the 70s. I happen to be in that majority. A recent, admittedly non-scientfic, poll in my community indicates just under 70% of the respondents favour the death penalty for pedophiles. We can't all possibly be insane and vengeful now can we? They and I support the death penalty because we know pedophiles are dangerous to the wellbeing of our children. It really is that simple."''

- '''"Sojourner" (2007). [http://www.richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21714&p=366953#p366906 Richard Dawkins and Paedophilia]'''

:''"peadophilles, by definition, intend harm and trauma to children, who are the most innocent people on this planet. dont you dare try and claim that you deserve respect."''

- '''Unknown, YouTube.com'''

:''"Jail is the only proper place for him, not just because of what he has [ possessed [[indecent images of children]] ] done but because of the fact he promotes those views."''

- '''[[Shy Keenan]], (2007). [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article577444.ece Paedo's 'life" term slashed]'''

:''"being attracted to pre-pubescent girls is a disease and a crime. ill be the first to admit that im an old man and wouldnt mind a teen age girlfriend, but your attractions are serious devient behaviour."''

- '''WayfaringStranger (2004) [http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=6719 "Do you find this abnormal or anything?"]'''

:''"the punishment should be more servre BRING BACK THE ELECTRIC CHAIR!!!!!"''

- '''naomi (2008) [http://blogs.notw.co.uk/thebigone/2008/02/paedophiles.html#comment-104403000 "The Big One: Paedophiles"]'''

:''"I wouldn't want them to die right away...I'd like them to experience the repeated ass raping several times, long after they are left begging for death, I'd give them a gas can with a little gas in it and a match...they can light themselves on fire in the middle of the prison yard...now that leaves an impression (...) Lock them in a cell and have them repeatedly raped. Repeat this from time to time until they are executed. This way they die a mental death many times over until they are granted the mercy of an execution. Sort of what their victims go through until they die." [other replies were similar in tone to this]''

- '''Vampyre Bat (2008) [http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/639197 "Answerbag.com"]'''

===Quotes about [[Jack McClellan]]===

:''"Remember, this isn't a guy that's "suspected" of anything - we *know* he's a pedophile. He freely admits to it. And one day, he *will* attempt illegal sexual contact."''

- '''"KarmaC" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''

:''"I don't understand why he cannot be charged with a terroristic act because I live in absolute terror that what he does will put my grandchildren in danger. If that's not terrorism, what is? I'm more afraid of him that I am of Osama bin Laden."''

- '''Unknown (deleted comment) (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/329158_pedophile27.html Sound Off]'''

:''"if that dude was your neighbor, you'd run him out of town too.''

[..]

:''now, if he were skulking around my neighborhood, he should look behind himself at all times. i'd hate to see somebody jump him. it may even be a group of people, who knows? you can't be too careful these days, you know?"''

- '''"CletusJR" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''

:''"if he's trying to "prove" something by creating that website, then shame on him! That kind of thing terrifies parents, aunts, grandparents, etc. He can't possibly think that people won't be up in arms regarding something like this."''

- '''"why_we_do" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''

:''"The notion that all we have to do is watch and wait for this guy to do something isn't very helpful. He should be in a theraputic setting. If he can't be "cured," at least the mental health and/or criminal justice communities could learn something about the course of the pathology."''

- '''"7Null_Seven" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''

:''"McClellan hasn't been convicted of child rape or molestation, YET, but if allowed he WILL molest, he WILL rape, he is a ticking time bomb...''

[..]

:''"No one can change my opinion of pedophiles and no one can stop us from doing what we do, outing as many of them as we possibly can..."''

- '''"Fred Witzell" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''

:''"The problem, for him, is the he has verbalized his sick, pathetic thoughts. Now, anyone with an aluminum bat and some balls should turn his knees into jello."''

- '''"PsyCoug" (2007). [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=329158 Sound Off]'''

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/List_of_anti-pedophile_quotes "List of anti-pedophile quotes"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

List of hoax pedophilia organizations

2009-08-09T06:14:41Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Due to the highly speculative and paranoid culture of anti-pedophile posturing, it is perhaps unsurprising that a number of hoax pedophile organizations have been put forward by scarem...

Due to the highly speculative and paranoid culture of anti-pedophile posturing, it is perhaps unsurprising that a number of hoax [[pedophile]] organizations have been put forward by scaremongers.

These groups range from failed ideas and folded websites, thru rejected proposals, to utter contrivances. Nevertheless, they have been described as "''A Few Of The More Notorious And Better-Known Boy-Love/Girl-Love Or Paedophile Associations And Organisation Web Sites''"(naffoundation.org).

==Disputed==

*'''[[Rene Guyon Society]]''' - there is some debate concerning the reliability of this organisation's membership figures. In reality, the René Guyon Society was a one-man operation (Tim O'Hara) blown to mythical proportions by right-wing scaremongers.

*'''Lafayette Society''' - a bizarre idea. The organization is said to have included a regression to the dress and mannerisms of historical aristocracy, provision of an environment in which [[children]] could engage in sex with [[adults]], and use of glass instruments that reduce the girth of a grown man's phallus for the penetration of an infant.

==Fake==

*'''Children's Liberation Railway''' - May have been a concept of [[BLAZE]].

*'''The Outcasts''' - [[Gayle Rubin]]'s group had nothing to do with pedophilia.

*'''Paedophile Liberation Army''' - At no point in history have a group of [[pedophile]]s formed a military organisation. The ''concept'' has been suggested by an outspoken webmaster calling himself ''Ronald McDonald''.

*'''The Tail Enders'''.

*'''The Bunnymen'''.

*'''The Choirboys'''.

*The Circle of Friends, The Moonlighters, Kids Liberation Front, Chocolate Star Fishermen, The Uranians, Eulenspiegel Society, Orchid Club, Kimeta Society, Mancunians, Wizards Lair, Streetkids Club, The Society of Janus, Wonderland Club, The Peacock Club, Oedipus Boys, PapaBears, The Freemen, The Love Brothers, SIN (Sexual Inequality Networkers), United Paedophile Information Exchange (UPIE), Queerlanders, etc.

==External Links==
[http://newgon.com/wiki/List_of_hoax_pedophilia_organisations "List of hoax pedophilia organisations"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Abel screening

2009-08-09T06:10:54Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Abel screening''', '''Diana screening''' and the '''Abel Assessment for sexual interest–2''' are methods used by a number of American organisations including mental health profess...

'''Abel screening''', '''Diana screening''' and the '''Abel Assessment for sexual interest–2''' are methods used by a number of [[American]] organisations including mental health professionals, to determine sexual interest in children among potential employees and patients. The range of tests described as Abel screening were devised by [[Gene Abel]]. Abel screening has been described as a blueprint for suppression of individuals expressing a sexual attraction to minors. However, due to its inaccuracies and lack of empirical support, Abel screening may be better characterised as a precursor to indiscriminate, [[witch hunt]] like conditions.

==Diana screen==

This test was emotively named after a severely [[Child sexual abuse|abused]] girl who commited suicide. It involves showing the participant a range of child and adult pictures and deceiving them as to the real intentions of the researcher. Whilst participants are asked to describe how sexually arousing they find the pictures, the test bases its conclusions on the length of time the participant takes to make the decision. If you spend too long looking at the child images, you are according to the protocol a probable child molester.

Whilst the official Diana website claims that the screen can outright identify "child molesters", this contradicted even by Abel's main site - stating that it can only identify risk.

[[Karen Franklin]] PhD notes that the research used to support screening has no peer review and even in Abel's cited literature, the screen itself produces numerous false positives:

:''"The materials did include a handout on the aforementioned (unpublished?) study of candidates for religious ordination. Of the 135 applicants screened, 18 (or about 13 percent) failed the test. Of those, 7 "were found to be true sexual risks to children" (based on followup inquiry and polygraph testing), while 2 "were found to have mental health problems" and 9 "required a closer look, but were found to have little or no risk."''

:''Stated another way, that's a false positive rate of at least 50 percent. Even if it is just a screening test, psychologists should be cautious in administering a test with such a high false-positive rate and no published, peer-reviewed data on its reliability or validity."''[http://forensicpsychologist.blogspot.com/2008/12/will-revolutionary-diana-screen-end.html]

===How to pass Diana===

Spend less or equal amounts of time when looking at images of younger models. The same applies for the longer ''Abel Assessment for sexual interest–2'' which contains an identical component.

==External links==

*[http://www.abelscreening.com/index.html Abel screening]
*[http://www.dianascreen.com/ Diana screen]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Abel_screening "Abel screening"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
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Judith Reisman

2009-08-09T06:03:46Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Judith A. Reisman''' (b. '''Judith Ann Gelernter''', 1935, Newark, New Jersey) is best known for her criticism of sexual viewpoints and sex education that she argues are based on [[Alfr...

'''Judith A. Reisman''' (b. '''Judith Ann Gelernter''', 1935, Newark, New Jersey) is best known for her criticism of sexual viewpoints and sex education that she argues are based on [[Alfred Kinsey]]'s work.

Reisman is president of the Institute for Media Education, an organisation she founded for herself. She is listed in Who's Who in Science & Engineering, and holds both a M.A. and a Ph.D. in Communications from Case Western Reserve University.

Basic tenets of her lobbying efforts include allegations that:
*a) Dr. Kinsey's science was fraudulent and in some cases criminal
*b) Children were sexually molested for the data that Kinsey gathered
*c) An entire sex education industry grew out of Kinsey's deceptive data

Reisman says "establishment media" is attempting to "recruit" children into homosexuality ([http://www.traditionalvalues.org/pdf_files/TVCSpecialRptHomosexualRecruitChildren.PDF]). Since the late 1980s, she has extensively criticized Kinsey and the [[Kinsey Reports]]. Her publications have been frequently distributed by conservative organizations. Reisman says [[sexology]] is not really a science but a cover for pro-homosexual/pedophile campaigners to obtain funding ([http://www.drjudithreisman.com/defund.html]).

In ''A Personal Odyssey to the Truth'', Reisman says that in 1966 her 10 year old daughter was molested by a trusted family friend who had been reading his father's pornography ([http://www.special-guests.com/reisman4.html]).

== Criticism of Alfred Kinsey's work ==
In the book ''Kinsey, Sex and Fraud: Indoctrination of the People''<ref name="fraud>Judith A. Reisman, Edward W. Eichel, John H. Court & J. Gordon Muir, ''Kinsey, Sex and Fraud''. Lafayette, LA: Lochinvar-Huntington House Publishers, 1990</ref>, Judith Reisman argues that Kinsey employed an unrepresentative proportion of prison inmates and pedophiles to obtain data about child sexual behavior. Reisman suggests that parts of the elaborate descriptions that Kinsey et al. obtained from inmates and sex offenders of the children's sexual behavior ("gasping, eyes staring", "groaning, sobbing, or more violent cries, sometimes with an abundance of tears") is evidence that the children were tortured against their will. The documentary '''''The Children of Table 34''''', produced by the conservative Family Research Council, purports to tell the story of Dr. Reisman's discovery of Dr. Alfred Kinsey's systematic sexual abuse of 317 male children.

This claim is denied by the [[Kinsey Institute]], who point out that the diaries containing these quotes were written long before the research was started, and that Reisman has had access to the material showing this.

== Activism against homosexuality ==
In ''Crafting "Gay" Children''<ref name="children">Judith A. Reisman: ''Crafting "Gay" Children. An Inquiry Into the Abuse of Vulnerable Youth via Government Schooling & Mainstream Media.'' [http://www.rsvpamerica.org/crafting%20august%202001.htm Online Version].</ref>, Reisman argues that homosexuals are trying to recruit children through schools and the mainstream media, attempts to link [[homosexuality]] with [[pedophilia]], accuses Kinsey of abnormal sexual practices, and attributes his early death to ''excessive'' "self-abuse" ([[masturbation]]). She alleges that the only correct response to homosexuality is “recovery" such as the "therapy" offered by the International Healing Foundation. Based on the links she sees between homosexuality and pedophilia, she states:

: ''And, as there is, on the evidence, a definite connection between homosexuality and the myriad pathologies, including pedophilia, schools and youth organizations should be legally liable for allowing bi/homosexuals any authority or influence over children. This is a sure way to severely limit traffic in child pornography and prostitution.''

== Activism against pornography ==
Reisman often uses references to the "child" in obscuring unsupportable statements about pornography in general:

:''"For our purposes we address only pictorial pornography. Pictorial pornography is defined as the display of intimate “private” space conduct in risky public space. Commonly such images of females such as strippers, nude models, prostitutes consciously “provoke” and “arouse” lust in tandem with unconscious emotions of shame, fear and anger toward the displayed “female” gender (and often children) absent empathy or pity.''

:''That children and illiterates instantly decode pornographic images proves that these stimuli subvert the cognitive tasks of (free) speech. Since viewers are untaught that right brain (emotion) pornographic images overwhelm left brain (cognition) such brain changes are non consensual.''

:''Pictorial pornography publicly and falsely displays women (and increasingly children) as primates in estrus—“in heat” or “rut,” in semi nude or nude animal postures of mating solicitation. These displays trigger discourteous, disordered, and debasing attitudes and even conduct toward both sexual performers and proximate female and/or child victims.''

:''Pornographic, endogenously produced lust, fear, shame and anger release; testosterone (brain steroid), sex-aggression endorphins (morphine like chemicals) oxytocin (bonding) nor epinephrine (adrenaline), glucose; dopamine, serotonin; phenylethylamine, etc.; an endogenous polydrug “high” mislabeled by the viewer as simple “sexual arousal” to displayed women, children, men, boys and/or animals, etc. Such confused states of lust with anger, fear and shame results in harassment, sex assault, rape, incest and the like."''[http://www.drjudithreisman.com/archives/SIC3.pdf]

==Controversy==
Dr. Reisman's work has been criticized by a number of organizations. Reisman was in the early 1980s given a grant for $734,371 by the [[US Department of Justice]] to make a content analysis of ''Images of Children, Crime, and Violence in Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler.'' Reisman used the grant to confirm her conclusion of "Kinsey's role in child sexual abuse and the link to children appearing in mainstream pornography..."

According to the study findings, each issue of Hustler averaged 14.1 children and pseudo-children alongside 47 images of crime and violence: 52 percent of child photos were sexually explicit and most cartooned children were sexually violated, particularly in the long running Chester the Molester comic. She also says that in 1978, Hustler published photographs of naked children as young as three-years of age alongside an article, "Children, Sex, and Society", advocating an end to [[age of consent]] laws, calling for acceptance of Adult-Child sex, and legalization of [[incest]].

The work which Reisman produced was later denied publication by the American University, where the study was based, after their independent academic auditor reported on it. Dr Robert Figlio of the University of Pennsylvania told AU that, 'The term child used in the aggregate sense in this report is so inclusive and general as to be meaningless.' Figlio told the press, 'I wondered what kind of mind would consider the love scene from Romeo and Juliet to be child porn' (p.116, <ref name="carol">Carol, Avedon 1994, "Nudes, Prudes and Attitudes: Pornography and Censorship", New Clarion Press, Gloucester, p. 156-158</ref>)"

The anonymous person who commissioned the study later said of it: "...[i]t was a scientific disaster, riddled with researcher bias and baseless assumptions."<ref name="carol"/>

Dr. Reisman filed a lawsuit against the [[Kinsey Institute]] for "defamation of character" and "slander," which she said occurred in a statement given by the Institution in response to Reisman's assertion in ''Kinsey, Sex, and Fraud: Indoctrination of the People'' that Kinsey's research involved illegal experimentation on several hundred children ([http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/about/controversy.html]) Reisman's attorney withdrew from the case, and the case was eventually "dismissed with prejudice" from the court. Reisman was barred from re-filing ([http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1374/is_n5_v56/ai_18640605]).

A review of Reisman's book ''Kinsey, Sex and Fraud'' called it "at best an inflated political pamphlet" (p.91, <ref name="simon"> Simon, W. Review of "Kinsey, Sex and Fraud - The Indoctrination of a People - An Investigation into the Human-Sexuality Research of A.C. Kinsey, W.B. Pomeroy, C.E. Martin, P.H. Gebhard" by J.A. Reisman and E.W. Wichel, ''Archives of Sexual Behavior'', 21 (1): 91-93 FEB 1992</ref>). The reviewer further noted that the arguments in the book were based on "innuendo, distortion, and selective representation of decontextualised 'facts' ".

Dr. Loretta Haroian, the co-chair of the plenary session of Child and Adolescent Sexuality at the 1984 [[World Congress of Sexology]], an expert on childhood sexuality, criticizes Reisman's work:

"This is not science, it's [[vigilantism]]: paranoid, pseudoscientific hyperbole with a thinly veiled hidden agenda. This kind of thing doesn't help children at all. ... Reisman's study demonstrates gross negligence and, while she seems to have spent a lot of time collecting her data, her conclusions, based on the data, are completely unwarranted. The experts Reisman cites are, in fact, not experts at all but simply people who have chosen to adopt some misinformed, Disneyland conception of childhood that she has. These people are little more than censors hiding behind Christ and children." <ref name="carol"/>

===Erototoxin===

Reisman coined the term Erototoxins to describe the relationship between certain forms of [[pornography]] and the function of the brain. She lists these "erototoxins" as testosterone, adrenaline, oxytocin, glucose, dopamine, serotonin, and phenylethylamine.<ref>[http://www.obscenitycrimes.org/Senate-Reisman-Layden-Etc.pdf Testimony before the United States Senate, Subcommittee on Science, Technology, and Space of the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation on "The Brain Science Behind Pornography Addiction and the Effects of Addiction on Families and Communities" November 18, 2004]</ref> Dr. Reisman claims that Erototoxins are addictive psychoactive neurochemicals, and exposure to them contributes to an increase in serial murder, rape, child molestation, and erectile dysfunction.<ref>http://www.drjudithreisman.com/erototoxin.html</ref> No scientific literature from the last 30 years could be found that includes the term<ref>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Search&db=pubmed&term=erototoxine&tool=fuzzy&ot=erototoxin</ref> "erototoxin".

==Additional quotes==

:''"All porn are (sic) Erototoxic because the brain converts sexual images into an endogenous drug ‘high’ via the reward system, pouring a supranormal drug cocktail similar to cocaine throughout the brain/body."''

:''"Erototoxins turn what could have been normal, decent humans into vile and deformed molesters,"''

:''"Some people will withstand pornographic conditioning due to their genetic inheritance (perhaps) but more likely due to strong moral absolutes. However, even those moral absolutes can be exploited and violated by exposure to these erototoxins we call pornography."''<ref>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2180390/posts</ref>

==References==

<references/>

* The Lancet, 'Really, Dr Kinsey?' (Book Reviews, Vol. 337: March 2, 1991, p. 547)
* The Lancet, (Vol. 350(9094): March 20, 1997, p1862)
*A.C. Kinsey, W.B. Pomeroy, C.E. Martin, ''Sexual Behavior in the Human Male'', (Philadelphia, PA: W.B. Saunders, 1948)
*A.C. Kinsey, W.B. Pomeroy, C.E. Martin, P.H. Gebhard, ''Sexual Behavior in the Human Female'', (Philadelphia, PA: W.B. Saunders, 1953)
*Martin Duberman, "Kinsey's Urethra". ''The Nation,'' November 3, 1997, pp. 40-43. [http://www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/publications/duberman.html Online Version].

==External links==
*[http://www.drjudithreisman.com/ Judith A Reisman home page]
*[http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/farout/story/0,13028,1527638,00.html Sex on the brain], ''The Guardian'' (July 14, 2005)
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Judith_Reisman "Judith Reisman"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
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Harmful to Minors (book)

2009-08-08T07:10:38Z

ImaginaryBoy:

'''''Harmful to Minors''''' (ISBN 0-8166-4006-8 [hardcover], ISBN 1-56025-516-1 [paperback]) is a book written by [[Judith Levine]] which proposes that laws, programs and terminology aimed at "protecting children" from sex cause more damage than they prevent. The book cites a wide array of research in medical, psychological, historical, and criminological fields, along with many interviews to support its conclusions. Due to the contents going against the [[Status Quo]], Levine found it difficult to obtain a publisher, and once she had, the book met with much controversy and requests for it to be banned and removed from libraries.

Included in the book are heavy criticisms of [[law|laws]] concerning [[child pornography]], [[statutory rape]], [[abortion]] for minors, and [[abstinence]]-only [[sex education]]. In particular, it even cites several examples of English churches from around the 70's promoting or hosting sex education for children including graphical videos or presentations.

The book also examines the terms "harmful to minors" and "indecency," which Levine considers to be umbrella terms for censorship, as well as the Dylan V. Heather case, and the little-known SPARK [[Support Program for Abusive Reactive Kids]] and STEP [[Sexual Treatment Education Program]] and Services, both of which she claims do far more harm than the child sex offenders did themselves.

The foreword was written by then-former [[United States]] Surgeon General [[Joycelyn Elders]]. Elders had resigned from her position after meeting great criticism from suggesting that masturbation be promoted as a means of preventing young people from engaging in riskier forms of sexual activity.

''Harmful'' won the [[2002]] ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' Book Award for [http://www.awardannals.com/wiki/Annal:2002_Los_Angeles_Times_Book_Prize_for_Current_Interest Current Interest]. [[Conservatives]] such as [[Joe Scarborough]] and [[Robert Knight]] accused Levine of promoting [[pedophilia]] for her suggestion that the US adopt [[statutory rape]] laws similar to those in the [[Netherlands]].

In 2003, Thunder's Mouth Press released a trade paperback edition of the book, which includes a new afterword by Levine chronicling the public response to the book.

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Harmful_to_Minors "Harmful to Minors"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Harmful to Minors (book)

2009-08-08T07:09:39Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Hardback'''''Harmful to Minors''''' (ISBN 0-8166-4006-8 [hardcover], ISBN 1-56025-516-1 [paperback]) is a book written by Judith Levine whic...

[[Image:180px-Harmful to minors.jpg|frame|Hardback]]'''''Harmful to Minors''''' (ISBN 0-8166-4006-8 [hardcover], ISBN 1-56025-516-1 [paperback]) is a book written by [[Judith Levine]] which proposes that laws, programs and terminology aimed at "protecting children" from sex cause more damage than they prevent. The book cites a wide array of research in medical, psychological, historical, and criminological fields, along with many interviews to support its conclusions. Due to the contents going against the [[Status Quo]], Levine found it difficult to obtain a publisher, and once she had, the book met with much controversy and requests for it to be banned and removed from libraries.

Included in the book are heavy criticisms of [[law|laws]] concerning [[child pornography]], [[statutory rape]], [[abortion]] for minors, and [[abstinence]]-only [[sex education]]. In particular, it even cites several examples of English churches from around the 70's promoting or hosting sex education for children including graphical videos or presentations.

The book also examines the terms "harmful to minors" and "indecency," which Levine considers to be umbrella terms for censorship, as well as the Dylan V. Heather case, and the little-known SPARK [[Support Program for Abusive Reactive Kids]] and STEP [[Sexual Treatment Education Program]] and Services, both of which she claims do far more harm than the child sex offenders did themselves.

The foreword was written by then-former [[United States]] Surgeon General [[Joycelyn Elders]]. Elders had resigned from her position after meeting great criticism from suggesting that masturbation be promoted as a means of preventing young people from engaging in riskier forms of sexual activity.

''Harmful'' won the [[2002]] ''[[Los Angeles Times]]'' Book Award for [http://www.awardannals.com/wiki/Annal:2002_Los_Angeles_Times_Book_Prize_for_Current_Interest Current Interest]. [[Conservatives]] such as [[Joe Scarborough]] and [[Robert Knight]] accused Levine of promoting [[pedophilia]] for her suggestion that the US adopt [[statutory rape]] laws similar to those in the [[Netherlands]].

In 2003, Thunder's Mouth Press released a trade paperback edition of the book, which includes a new afterword by Levine chronicling the public response to the book.

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Harmful_to_Minors "Harmful to Minors"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Sexual Offences Act (2003) (UK)

2009-08-08T07:01:10Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: The '''Sexual Offences Act (2003)''' is an Act of Parliament in the United Kingdom which was enacted in 2003. It was introduced as "An Act to make new provision about sexual offenc...

The '''Sexual Offences Act (2003)''' is an [[Act of Parliament]] in the [[United Kingdom]] which was enacted in 2003. It was introduced as "An Act to make new provision about sexual offences, their prevention and the protection of children from harm from other sexual acts, and for connected purposes."<ref>http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&ActiveTextDocId=820905</ref>

The Act introduced many new sexual offences and, due to a recent amendment enacted as part of the [[Criminal Justice and Immigration Act]], provides that UK nationals who act contrary to UK child sex offence laws abroad may be prosecuted in the United Kingdom.<ref>http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldbills/051/08051.52-57.html#jNC35</ref> It also defines penetrative sexual activity between two children under the age of 13 as rape.<ref>http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&ActiveTextDocId=820916</ref>

The Act makes it an offence to encourage, arrange or facilitate certain child sex offences, including both contact<ref>http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&ActiveTextDocId=820926</ref> and non-contact <ref>http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=parentActiveTextDocId=820904&ActiveTextDocId=820969</ref> offences.

==References==

{{reflist}}

==See also==

*[[Criminal Justice and Immigration Act]]
*[[Legal Information]]
*[[Indecent images of children]]

==External Links==

[http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/legResults.aspx?activeTextDocId=820904 Sexual Offences Act (2003) at the Statute Law Database]
[http://newgon.com/wiki/Sexual_Offences_Act_%282003%29 "Sexual Offences Act (2003)"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
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David Thorstad

2009-08-08T06:52:12Z

ImaginaryBoy:

'''David Thorstad''', American political activist and author, has been a prominent member of the gay rights movement since the 1970s, and was a founding member of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), a group which advocates the abolition of age of consent laws. He was also active in Trotskyist politics for some years.

From 1967 to 1973 Thorstad was a member of the Socialist Workers Party (SWP), once the main American Trotskyist organisation. After leaving the SWP because of its attitude to homosexuality he published a collection of internal party documents relating to its discussion of the gay liberation movement, under the title Gay Liberation and Socialism : Documents from the Discussions on Gay Liberation Inside the Socialist Workers Party (1970-1973). In the early 1970s Thorstad was president of the Gay Activists Alliance, a leading gay liberation group in New York.

In 1974 Thorstad and John Lauritsen published The Early Homosexual Rights Movement (1864-1935), an important work which linked the modern gay liberation movement to older movements for homosexual rights, particularly in Germany, and showed the links between those movements and the socialist movement.

In 1978 Thorstad was a founding member of NAMBLA, and has remained active in its leadership ever since. He is one of a group of NAMBLA members who are being sued for the wrongful death of a ten-year-old boy in a long-running court case in Boston (Curley v NAMBLA, described at the NAMBLA article). In 2003, in the course of this case, Judge George O'Toole found that:

:''"David Thorstad has been a resident of St. Paul, Minnesota since approximately 1992. Thorstad has been a member of NAMBLA since 1978, and served as a member of the Steering Committee from some undetermined time until September 1996. He is listed as a member of the Bulletin Collective, though he claims he "had no role in producing" the publication. He did contribute letters and articles to the Bulletin, and one of his articles was also posted on NAMBLA's webpage. In 1995, he was nominated to be an official NAMBLA spokesman"''.

David Thorstad's involvement with NAMBLA led him to break with most of the mainstream gay rights movement, which has become increasingly hostile to NAMBLA's views and activities since about 1980. In 1998 Thorstad told an audience: "Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization - and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture - ancient Greece and the Renaissance." Thorstad describes the modern gay rights movement as "politically correct zombies," and the "radicalism of such groups as Queer Nation" as "bizarre and offensive."

Summaries of Thorstad's views appear in his articles "Man/Boy Love and the American Gay Movement" in Male Intergenerational Intimacy: Historical, Socio-Psychological and Legal Perspectives (Theo Sandfort et al, editors, Harrington Park Press, 1991), and "Homosexuality and the American Left: The Impact of Stonewall," in Gay Men and the Sexual History of the Political Left (Gert Hekma et al, editors, Harrington Park Press, 1995).

==External Links==
* [http://newgon.com/wiki/David_Thorstad "David Thorstad"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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David Thorstad

2009-08-08T06:49:43Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''David Thorstad''', American political activist and author, has been a prominent member of the gay rights movement since the 1970s, and was a founding member of the North American Man-Bo...

Kiddy fiddler

2009-08-08T06:43:35Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: ''Kiddy Fiddler''' is a colloquial name for someone who engages in sexual behaviours with someone below the Age of Consent - especially with a child. It is applied regardless of the pe...

''Kiddy Fiddler''' is a colloquial name for someone who engages in sexual behaviours with someone below the [[Age of Consent]] - especially with a child. It is applied regardless of the person's conviction status.

Recipients include [[Gary Glitter]], [[Michael Jackson]] and other celebrities.

* [http://newgon.com/wiki/Kiddy_Fiddler "Kiddy Fiddler"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
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Bubba

2009-08-08T06:37:03Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: "'''Bubba'''" is a popular American term that is used by Anti-pedophile activist groups such as Absolute Zero to describe and celebrate the raping ...

"'''Bubba'''" is a popular American term that is used by [[Anti-pedophile activism|Anti-pedophile activist]] groups such as [[Absolute Zero]] to describe and celebrate the [[Rape|raping]] of child sex offenders in prison. "Bubba" is a stereotyped "homosexual" (this is how such people define [[homosexuality]]) male who rapes his fellow inmates, usually when they "drop the soap".

"Bubba" has achieved cult-status in the comment sections of the Absolute Zero blog, and is often used by AZ members and readers who wish to make known their keen anticipation of the rape brutalisation of sex offenders. It is perhaps worth noting that despite their celebration by some readers, such acts are now extremely rare with modern prison practises.

==External Links==
[http://newgon.com/wiki/Bubba "Bubba"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
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Anal wink

2009-08-08T06:31:11Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: __NOTOC__The '''anal wink''', '''anal reflex''', '''perineal reflex''', or '''anocutaneous reflex''' is a pseudoscientific and largely discredited theory used to convict innocent parties o...

__NOTOC__The '''anal wink''', '''anal reflex''', '''perineal reflex''', or '''anocutaneous reflex''' is a pseudoscientific and largely discredited theory used to convict innocent parties of [[child sexual abuse]] related crimes. It refers to the reflexive contraction of the external anal sphincter upon stroking of the skin around the anus.

==Normal response==

A noxious or tactile stimulus will cause a wink contraction of the anal sphincter muscles and also flexion. The stimulus is detected by the [[nociceptor]]s in the [[perineal]] skin to the pudendal nerve, where a response is integrated by the spinal cord sacral segments S1-S3.

The absence of this reflex indicates that there is an interruption of the reflex arc, which may be in the sensory afferent limb or the motor efferent limb. The synapse between the afferent and efferent limbs occurs in the lowest sacral segments of the spinal cord.

==Misuse by Child Abuse Industry==

Dr. [[Bruce Woodling]] developed the ''anal wink test'' which he alleged was an indisputable diagnostic indicator that a child had been [[sodomy|sodomised]]. In a clinical setting, he would touch the anus with a cotton swab. If the anus "winked", Woodling testified, this was "proof of sodomy". His testimony was prominent in the [[McMartin preschool]] child abuse case.

It has since been established that Woodling made insuficient efforts or proof to validate his test, and therefore has been criticized. Woodling's pseudoscientific testimony during the trial of [[Ray Buckey]] contributed to Buckey spending five years in prison without bail. Buckey was later released without conviction.

==Comparison with [[reflex anal dilatation]]==

''Anal wink'' stands in direct opposition to [[reflex anal dilatation]], another theory frequently misused by the Child Abuse Industry in unrelated legal cases.

==External links==
*[http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mcmartin/woodlingtestimony.html Testimony by Dr. Bruce Woodling] — Expert testimony in McMartin Child Abuse Case.
*[http://www.pathguy.com/abuse.htm False allegations of child abuse] — Expert opinion on false allegations of child abuse, with mention of "anal wink" testimony.
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Anal_wink "Anal Wink"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Young Liberationists

2009-08-08T06:26:26Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Young people below the age of eighteen have used the internet to involve themselves in the movement for intergenerational love, where they have been given respect and freedom from parental...

Young people below the age of eighteen have used the internet to involve themselves in the movement for intergenerational love, where they have been given respect and freedom from parental authority.

Our advocates' active age(s), sex and form(s) of verification are noted in '''(bold brackets)''':

*[http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Statements/stop_protecting_me.htm David] '''(14 - M)''' Boy who was inspired by his own relationship with an older man.

*[http://www.blogger.com/profile/24599755 Delusion] '''(14, 15 - F - mentioned on [[Pedologues]] podcast)''' Contributor to the defunct [[Paiderastia]] Weblog (do you have an archive? Mail me!).

*[http://www.blogger.com/profile/26422183 Ragwot] '''(15 - F - Once verified by photo)''' Contributor to now defunct [[Paiderastia]] Weblog, and own weblogs (do you have an archive? Mail me!).

*Chris '''(16 - M - took part in [[Pedologues]] ep. 19)'''

*Chelsea '''(F - took part in [[Pedologues]] ep. 28)'''

*[http://www.blogger.com/profile/17055411 Aqua] '''(12, 13 - M - took part in many [[Pedologues]] podcasts)''' Aqua was a contributor to the now defunct Paiderastia Weblog, although he was eventually silenced by [http://www.boychat.org/messages/1083046.htm AntiPeds and an overzealous mother].

*Pedo Child '''(14 - M)''' - Has regularly written to the [[MARTIJN]] boards.

*[http://www.angelfire.com/co2/girllove/right.html Delilah] '''(grade 6 - F)''' - Quoted on page 80 of "Children and Sex: New Perspectives" as saying: "I think that a girl can get pregnant at any age above thirteen because she should know what she is doing if her mother tells her about sex. My father thinks that I should not have a boyfriend. I think that if a girl want's a boy to feel her it is her business not her parent's."

*"11-year-old faggot" '''(11 - M)''' - A boy talks to NAMbLA in "[[Boys speak out]]." Order: Nambla, P. O. Box 174, Midtown Sta. New York, NY10018. "My first statement is that I want to dispel the image that a child is an ''innocent little puppy dog''. Children have plenty of knowledge about life, the universe and everything. But adults tend not to listen to their children. This ''innocent puppy'' syndrome represses the child's social, sexual, political, economical, and emotional desires. Children are not taken seriously and are expected to conform to a society in which they can't question its validity. This has got to stop! [...] A child is a sexual being. Therefore, children should have the right to explore any aspect of sexuality they desire to engage in. Why do parents, politicians, and police (the 3 p's) feed guilt into children that are sexually active? [...] Many people have been destroyed because of intergenerational relationships, people who could offer the world a lot if they had just not been persecuted for being different. Burning witches is a pastime which is just regaining popularity in the States."

* Generation Wicked ('''Girls 12-16''') is a committee of 12 teenage girls set up to advise the UK government on youth issues. The committee's agenda includes lowering the age-of-consent to 12.[http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2000/12/2/230312.html][http://archive.thenorthernecho.co.uk/2000/12/29/183175.html] The Web site that spawned the group, wickedcolors.com, also conducted a poll of 42,000 girls between 12 and 16 on the age-of-consent. 87% responded that it should be lowered from 16.[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1376140/Girls-say-teenage-sex-campaign-is-out-of-touch.html]

*Mark Moffett '''(15 - M)''' - A boy who has had relationships with men offers his opinion: "I think the age of consent should be lowered and probably abolished. But only after coercion laws have been strengthened and there has been an adequate education of prepubescent children. As it stands now, a lot of kids would be in danger since they don't know that much about sex and sexual relationships. ..It all comes back to education. After that children can be expected and given the freedom to have sex with whomever they want to have sex with...I don't think rape is being stopped now with the age of consent laws."[http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/califa_aftermath_text.htm]

*Kadaj on [[BoyChat]].

*Innormal ('''14, M''') on [[Newgon.com]]'s forum.

*[[User:Brian|Brian]] on this website and [http://attractedtochildren.org ATC] started writing at '''17'''.

Please note that we do not scan through all of the communities to which you may be contributing, so you must notify us, if you would like to be included in this list. Many additional young contributors can be found in the [[Archive]].

An organised pressure group of minors for sexual consent or emancipation concerning other related issues would be a magnificent tool of activism.

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ImaginaryBoy:

An archived article by [[Gerald Hannon]], from ''[[The Body Politic]]'', Issue 39, Dec 1977/Jan 1978.

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'''Preamble'''

1977 has been the Year of the Children.

The year of the children Anita Bryant wanted to "save," of the children lesbian mothers lost. The year of the one child who died in a body rub parlour on Yonge Street. We have been sensitized. There is some irony in this. In the lives of most gay people, children are conspicuous only by their absence. But they are not unimportant to us. We have begun to realize, for one thing, that many gay men and lesbians are parents themselves. Their battles for custody of their children have given them new visibility.

These custody cases, though, are only one part of a much broader assault. Dark warning is being given: children are to be the last frontier of heterosexist bias. Hints have been dropped that our right to be free from discrimination, when and if that right is recognized, just might not include the freedom to be a teacher, a counsellor or a childcare worker. We have been told that our magazines can't fall before their eyes and that our television programmes, if they are shown at all, can't be aired until they have gone to bed. Regardless of the nature of our real everyday contacts — or lack of them — with children, all of us have been branded as every child's potential "molester."

Which brings us to the article below, "Men Loving Boys Loving Men," the latest in a series on youth sexuality by Gerald Hannon. The people you will meet in it are "child molesters," "chicken hawks," "dirty old men." They are these things just as all of us are "pansies," "lezzies" and "queers." The names are only the most visible part of an elaborate and vicious mythology. (In Toronto this summer we found that the myth includes us all as "child-killers" too.) We know how much these myths and these words have to do with our real lives.

We know about some of them, that is.

The real lives of men who love boys and boys who love men are mysterious even for most other gay people. We are not immune from the general paranoia about children and sexuality, and many of us are willing to accept that part of the straight world's homosexual mythology even when we know the rest of it for the lie that it is.

A small part of the reality is presented below.

"Men Loving Boys Loving Men" is not printed here without awareness of the potential consequences. The decision to run the article was not taken lightly nor without debate within the editorial collective. We have had it on hand, typeset and laid out, for nearly six months, but we have hesitated, sensitive to the feeling that "the climate was not right" after the anti-gay media barrage which followed Emanuel Jaques's death in August.

We know now that the "climate" will never be "right." The Jaques trial is yet to come, and when that is over there will undoubtedly be something else we could point to if we wanted an excuse to move with the tide. The tide must be resisted, the discussion must be opened up.

We know that people who are more concerned with "respectability" than with rights will groan at our "irresponsibility."

We also know that the media are likely to react as though they had just found a delectably rotten plum in a Christmas cake from a bakery they've never much liked. The issue might well be splashed sensationally across the tabloids (especially on days when there isn't much real news), lines may be quoted out of context and juicy bits read over the air to satisfy prurient interest. Columnists like the Toronto Sun's Claire Hoy will be delirious. We know about these things because they have happened to us — to all of us — before.

We also know this because we are aware of how desperate the enemies of gay liberation are. They are willing to hurl the bodies and minds of the very children they are trying to "save" into the fray.

The Body Politic, for instance, recently received a curious series of telephone calls. The voice at the other end of the line was that of a young boy, perhaps nine or ten years old. He asked on one occasion to speak to the author of this article (who, as we noted, has written on youth and sexuality before), asked where he might buy TBP, asked finally where he could go to have sex. At least once the prompting voice of an adult male was audible in the background. The sound of a tape recorder was not, but could be assumed: it is illegal even to advise people under the age of eighteen (and gay people under twenty-one) to have sex.

We can only speculate about the character of someone who would rather manipulate a child into an act of fraud than have him know anything real about the lives of men who love men and women who love women. But the characters of three people whom this man with the tape recorder must fear so much, three "child molesters," three men who love boys, are here to be examined.

We leave it to you.

— ''The Editorial Collective, November 1977''

'''Men loving boys loving men'''

There's a painting in the foyer of my YMCA. It's a dedication portrait, the kind you still expect to see in banks over an "Our Founder" plaque, except that banks have pretty much surrendered to the framed fabric school of interior design. Not so trendy, the YMCA. The ones I know still rely heavily on dark wood veneer and respectable oil paintings like this one of C J Atkinson, "Leader in Boys' Work." Or so the dedication reads. It continues: "...here he realized a dream of his young manhood in the building of a community in which boys learned to do by doing."

He worked with boys, did Mr Atkinson. He cared about them, worried about their welfare, worried more about the ones society didn't seem to have much of a place for, and finally arranged for the construction of this building, a sanctuary — at least until recently — for boys, for young men, "a dream of his young manhood."

I think I know something about C J Atkinson. I think he was a pedophile.

I don't know for sure, of course. If I did — if anyone else had — there wouldn't be an oil painting of the man gracing the foyer of a building belonging to the Young Men's Christian Association.

But I do know what he did. I know, at least, why he was celebrated. He loved boys. He had dreams for them. He made them his life's work. If you are what you do, C J Atkinson, benefactor and "leader in boys' work," was very much a pedophile.

It's not a good word. The Greek origin, "lover of boys," is nice enough, but it's a clinician's word; it's like "homosexual," only worse. "People use it as a label for a disease," says Simon, one of the men we shall meet in this article, one of the men who says, "I'm gay, but I like to be called boy-lover. I like the word 'boy.' It's strange... whenever I even see the word boy...."

We'll meet Simon and others like him because what they do is important. Like C J Atkinson, if they are remembered at all, they will be remembered for what they do. Not for what they are, not because they are "nice people." Niceness is not enough. No, Simon and Barry and Peter and thousands of others like them will earn the esteem of their community for the work they do with boys; they will earn the affection of their associates and friends because they have lived honest and loving lives, have formed meaningful and responsible relationships.

If they don't get caught.

What do they do, then? What is it like — a loving, sexual relationship between a man and a boy? If you read the papers, this is one picture: a psychopath draws a circle of hapless boys to him and after months of wild, degrading sex he murders them — the Houston story. Another: a pathetic man incapable of forming meaningful relationships with adults finally turns to children for his social / sexual outlet — basically harmless, but pathetic and obviously in need of help. Another: a group of well-placed and usually wealthy citizens make clandestine use of a well- organized "boy bordello," one that recruits runaways and waifs and makes big money by selling their sexual favours to the well-to-do.

Those things happen. But they happen less often than wife-beating, or the battering of babies. Psychiatrists see far, far fewer young people from man / boy relationships than they see boys and girls unable to cope with the strains of their happy homes.

The media equate boy-love and child molestation. And they use that equation as a weapon against all gay people. Children are molested when they are physically or psychologically coerced into a sexual act, and that sort of thing is almost exclusively a heterosexual preoccupation. "Homosexual offenders against children almost never used force, but... heterosexual offenders against children often did" — the admirably clear and succinct conclusion of one American study. The same study noted: "Abuse is the major killer of children under two, and (intentional) neglect occurs ten times as often as abuse." And Barbara Chisholm, project director of the Canadian Council on Children and Youth, has said that as many as fifty percent of girls now in training school may have been subjected to initial rape by their own fathers.

Boy-love is not child molestation. Boy-love is C J Atkinson. Boy-love is Simon.

Simon is thirty-three. He is, I suppose, exactly the person that families worry about. He is a primary school teacher, and an active member of several social service agencies that deal with children, including Big Brothers. He has taught for ten years in four different schools and has formed sexual, loving relationships with boys in each of those four schools and in each of the service organizations of which he is a member, including Big Brothers. He has never been caught.

Simon is tall, genial, getting a little soft around the middle; a generous, rather private man with few close adult friends and a much wider acquaintance among the young. His lover, David, is twelve and in Simon's class at school. David writes poetry to Simon:

''You are a friend that I love forever.''

''I will care for you,''

''And if we must to part''

''It would break my heart.''

''So let's stay together,''

''And be friends forever and ever.''

''With love, from David.''

Kids are not usually romantics, according to Simon, and that is one of the reasons he finds the relationship with David so deeply moving. I asked him how it began. "He liked me, used to come by and visit. We used to lie on the couch together, I at one end and he at the other, with our legs together. But some of the things he did at first were quite touching and quite unusual and I have to tell you about them. We used to sit there and he would do things like just lean over and lick the bottom of my throat... I was dumbfounded and I said, 'What are you doing... stop!' But I didn't want him to stop. And all on his own he would take my fingers into his mouth and roll his tongue around them... it would just drive me up the wall. Then I would do it to his fingers and on one occasion I did it to his toes... that got him aroused. But this was before we'd been naked in front of each other, and all of this was without his being told what to do or asked to do it. Any gay person would have been overwhelmed by him."

The relationship seems on an even keel now. "I think it will last like this for quite a while," says Simon. "We satisfy each other. He satisfies my needs, not my desires." But like many relationships, it had its moments of strain. "At one point it cooled off a bit for a period of weeks, and I was very hurt and depressed. I had a talk with him and told him he was really hurting me quite a bit, and though I didn't expect things to be always the same, I didn't see any reason for his being so cold and distant. There were a couple of occasions during the conversation when I couldn't speak anymore and I had to get up and leave and when I came back he said, 'I didn't think it meant all that much to you.' And I said, 'It's not the sex, it's what you think of me. It's the affection you used to show me that I miss.' Since then, he's just completely warmed up, and though he's still cool at school, when we get out on our own he's completely relaxed."

I asked Simon why he thought the coolness had developed.

"I think he was genuinely a bit troubled about some of the things he'd done. He'd gone down on me. And perhaps I was a little aggressive and tried to kiss him on the lips, which is something he didn't want. But it seems to be settled. I suppose now we have more fun than sex... we both undress, and bring the mattress out here in front of the TV, and we eat and wrestle and giggle and blow into each other's bellies and generally laugh and have lots of fun. And that's really more pleasurable to me than having sex... because there's so much affection."

I wondered about teaching. Is it wise to have your lover in your class? Could one possibly avoid just a little favouritism? Simon thinks so. "If the boy I'm having an affair with does something wrong, I tell him off just like anybody else and he gets marked just like everybody else. If anything, I'm probably a bit harder on him because I want him to do better. And he makes sure that I don't treat him any better than any of the other kids. He'll act a bit cool sometimes... but I accept that. It makes him feel more secure with his peers. I mean, there's a lot of pressure not to be teacher's pet ... and listen: I'm a popular teacher. I'm usually one of the most popular teachers in the school. I understand the kids, sympathize with them. My principals have always remarked on my special relationships with my kids in their reports on me. A few have even suggested that I have a little chat with some of the teachers that didn't seem to be doing so well. If they only knew my method!"

But then Simon's classroom methods aren't that traditional either. He's fed up with what he calls "a glorified baby-sitting service... that seems to exist to keep the kids out of the parents' hair. The schools aren't doing what they should be doing. They aren't teaching kids to live, they're not teaching them to think, and they're not teaching them to consciously relate to each other. You can't learn anything in the classroom anyway — except how to regurgitate information. They should be out in the factories, they should be seeing how other people work, seeing what it means to earn a living, seeing how institutions work, how the courts work... how businesses work.... You know how incompetent kids are when they first get out on their own. I was the perfect example — as soon as I started earning a living I went straight into debt. Been there ever since!"

For Simon, of course, teaching goes beyond the classroom, and he's willing to admit that his affairs with these boys form a kind of sex education. In many cases, it's the first time many of them have a chance to talk openly about something which is changing their bodies and minds in ways they're not sure how to deal with. "I remember talking to one boy years after we had our affair. He remarked that it was good for him, that it gave him a lot of confidence with girls. In fact, he thanked me for it. Before me, he was afraid and reluctant and didn't know much about sex, but through our relationship he learned quite a bit about his own body and what he could do. It also liberated him from the idea that sex was a no-no — which is what he'd been taught. I tried to relieve him, as I still do with my kids, of feelings of guilt that I went through. I try to get them to realize that this is a bodily function to be enjoyed, and nothing to feel guilty about.

"As well, I've never gone to bed with any kid that I haven't formed a friendship with. I just can't go out and seduce a kid. There has to be affection. I can honestly say I've never gone to bed with anybody that I haven't felt a great deal of affection for. Sex has always been part of friendship, of romance, of a love affair. I'm just not capable of going out and picking up a kid and sucking him and screwing him and paying him. If I did something like that, I would feel guilty, I would feel emotionally upset."

I wondered if any kid had ever made the first move.

"Yes, one fourteen-year-old I had in a grade eight class. We went camping one summer and I tried a few things but nothing obvious and he didn't seem interested, so I just dropped it. A few months later he turned up at my door one night and said, 'Do you remember the things we did last summer? Well, let's do them again.' And I said, 'I don't believe it.' He said, 'I mean it,' and I said, 'You'll have to prove it.' So he stripped. And that was that for the winter!

"The whole thing made a real difference to him. He began to talk easily about masturbation — he'd say, 'Boy, I had a good one this morning,' and he seemed to have no guilt feelings. Although he did before. He was from a very strict family."

I envy Simon that easy rapport. Kids are an uncomfortable challenge to me. When I'm with them I feel either condescending or oddly negligent; I suspect they find me either pompous or uncomfortably strained. We do not meet easily. For Simon, they are the most casual of meetings. They are neighbouring tribes, he and his boys, and their rambunctious energies still draw echoes from him.

"I can have as much fun with a kid running around in a field as I did when I was fifteen or sixteen. We go camping, we go downtown, we go to the Arcade, to movies, for rides on our bikes, we buy records and come home and listen, we bowl, we watch TV, we fuck. Actually, I've only really bum-fucked two kids. One of them asked me to, and the other indicated that he wanted it. They didn't like it all that much, but it seemed an experiment that they wanted to try.

"A lot of my relationships with boys have not been all that sexually satisfying to me. Especially with the pre-pubertal kids, there's never been anything really sexual. Mostly just affection, care. Anyway, I don't find pre-pubertal kids all that exciting — it's a physical pleasure of the hugging, cuddling kind. And it's an emotional pleasure too. I never felt any guilt about the fact that these were kids — I worried about being caught, that's all. And I've never wanted to be different than I am. I'm content. I just want to liberate my kids a little bit and help them find their own sexual direction. Help them realize their sexuality is nothing to be ashamed of."

If the word for Simon is romantic, the word for Peter is cool. He's rich for one thing, and that's always cool. Not rich in the way of smart young things winging their way noisily from "in" resort to way-out film festival and back. His is new money, and it resides quietly on the fringes of Rosedale, which is about as cool as new money in Toronto gets. Peter is forty-eight, trim and attractive. He has a swimmer's body and he's a meticulous and casual dresser. He runs his company with the same generous aplomb that characterizes Peter the host, very much at home in what is always an inhumanly meticulous townhouse. Thanks, in this case, to the "help," which has its own apartment below stairs, and which it is also very cool to have.

I suppose we ought to be enemies, Peter and I. Young money meets young radical. But we aren't. I like him, even when he answers my question about how we can change the way society and the law view boy-love with "I don't see that I'm willing to make much of a contribution in that direction. I suspect there's no cohesive group that shares any thoughts or experiences.... I see myself very selfishly satisfying my own needs by zipping off to Morocco twice a year and filling in the time here with whatever little delights I can scrape up.' I remember that there isn't a pedophile movement in Canada, and Peter is saying very much what I would probably have said had I been out of the closet back in the mid-Sixties before the gay movement gave me the chance to change my way of thinking. I think I would have had an "I'm all right Jack" attitude because anything else would have been too frightening to contemplate — anything else would have had to have been done alone. A pedophile movement would be more difficult to organize, would have more perils and pitfalls, than almost anything else I can think of. Neither Simon nor Peter expect to try.

I wondered how Peter met his boys. He did not have the kind of job which would put him in daily contact with them.

"With boys you have to impress them at first, you have to call attention to yourself. I do it with a big car, or a deep tan, or an ability. I used to be quite skilled at diving and I would have all eyes on me all summer. It's not the only way, of course. I've picked up boys in theatres. You sit down beside them and start making comments about the movie, and then you might say 'here's a quarter' — now it would have to be a dollar — 'why don't you get us both a coke.' Then there's a long, long period of courtship, talking, driving around town, having a hamburger. And it might never happen. There were lots of boys that I would have loved to make advances to and never did. Or it might take several months. Relationships that were budding in the summer would mature in the depths of winter in a car parked in a secluded spot in the snow."

For Peter, as for Simon, it is the relationship that matters. So much so, that he is still in contact with many of the boys he began having sex with ten years ago and more. Many are married now and have children of their own, but they have no regrets about what happened with Peter, and see nothing odd about looking him up whenever they're in town.

"I remember a couple of kids, they were brothers, probably ten and twelve, and I especially liked the ten-year-old. And when he got a little older, I made an advance, but he made it clear he didn't want that — he said he didn't want me to touch him there because it wasn't right. And I said, 'Allen, it's not a question of right or wrong, but if you'd prefer not, that's fine....' Then he began to talk about his religious ideals and ethics, so I just retreated and didn't bother pursuing it. His brother, on the other hand, turned out to be quite a swinger, and we had marvellous sex over a period of years until he got married. Even then, the night before his wedding, he wanted to see me. We stayed in the apartment they were going to live in, and I fucked him in his marital bed. By that time he was really older than I was interested in: he was probably twenty-one.

"I still see Buddy. He's married, two kids. And he loves sucking me off. I don't think he has sex with other men.

Peter has a special interest in the detritus of heterosexual relationships, the unwanted or unloved boys, the boys from homes where the father is dead or has deserted. "It seems the more disadvantaged the child, the more he needs some stable, mature human being. And they're looking for love as well. Typically, they are not very articulate and not very well educated, and I think I am often a positive influence. I don't think John would ever have gone to university without my influence. We discussed that, and he agrees. He would never have placed the same value on his own personality if it hadn't been for our relationship. I valued him far more than his parents did. I taught him self-respect. I used to encourage him in school, we had a regular correspondence and he used to try and copy my style. He's a professor now, married, two kids, divorced. I began having sex with him when he was twelve.

"And then, I think my relationships give all the kids a real appreciation for a perfectly valid form of sexual activity. It takes the threat away from it and gives them some kind of balance, more sense of objectivity than they would have otherwise."

But can they choose, I asked Peter. Can a child actually choose to have sex with you when you have all the power and privilege that comes from simply being an adult?

"You can't treat sex as a mode of behaviour totally different from any other mode of behaviour. One doesn't worry about an adult buying an ice-cream cone for a child and thereby potentially turning him into an obese creature.... It's another form of experience, like going to the movies or playing football or hiking. I've never felt that sex should be seen alone and separate as some 'great experience.' And I can honestly say I've never been tempted to use even the tiniest bit of influence I might have to get some kid to come through. If there's the slightest bit of resistance, I'm not interested at all — I'm just wasting my time and that person's time, and it's silly to continue."

What does sex between a man and a boy consist of? For Peter — as for Simon — not much, it seems. Not much, at least, in an age when raunchy experiment gets all the publicity: "My sexual needs are very simple. I don't very often fuck somebody, though I like it once in a while. Most of the time it would be mutual masturbation, with some sucking. I prefer to be sucked: sucking doesn't interest me that much, though I do it if I think it gives someone else pleasure. But mutual masturbation would constitute the largest single practice."

And though the twelve to fourteen age bracket defines Peter's prime area of interest, he is, like most of us, willing to experiment: "The youngest? Seven, I think. He wasn't a very bright little fellow, but he just loved sucking. He used to come up to the apartment, and as soon as he got in he'd say 'I want some wine.' That meant he wanted to suck me off. And he learned that reference from a policeman. I'd asked him if he did this for anyone else and he said yes, there was a policeman in the neighbourhood, and the policeman told him that this was wine. We'd kiss, I'd suck him a little bit but he wasn't very interested. He just wanted to suck me. He'd suck me to orgasm and swallow it. He had very sharp teeth I recall.... I decided to put a stop to that one, and years ago I had sex with quite an old man on the beach. It just seemed sort of exciting. And of course, the fellow I'm having quite a regular relationship with is in his late twenties."

A simple question: had there ever been a time when he's wished he hadn't been a boy-lover?

A simple answer: "No, I'm crazy about lobster and there was never a time when I wished I didn't like lobster. Why would one wish not to like something one likes?"

Don is a friend of Peter's. He's forty, looks thirty, could look younger if he lost ten or fifteen pounds. He's married, and has a nineteen-year-old son. He's unashamedly and unrepentantly heterosexual. A species I rarely meet socially these days, but Don is scarcely a typical example, and we get along easily.

Don met Peter when he was eleven and Peter was nineteen and in his first year as a very popular lifeguard at the local pool. They became friends and it wasn't long before it became a sexual friendship and Don had his first orgasm in the change room at the pool. "It was very gradual — Peter just slowly got more physical with me until that day when he jerked me off. I felt a bit ashamed at first — my mother had always told me not to play with myself — but I really enjoyed it. In fact, I think I had a hangup about sex that Peter probably snapped. In any case, I was certainly masturbating myself within the month.

"I began looking up in books, though, about homosexuality and wondering to myself if I was one, but I guess I never really felt I was. Peter and I used to talk about it a lot, and I would try to understand it all. He's the only male I've ever had sex with — I never played around with kids my own age. And I guess we kept having sex on an infrequent basis until I was fifteen or so. Then I wanted to stop. I still wanted to be his friend, but I didn't want the sex anymore, so I guess I avoided him for a while."

They're good friends now, though, and they see each other about once a month for dinner or whatever and, by the by, Don meets, on a casual basis, the only gay men he ever meets. He's happy to admit it's been an education for him.

"If it hadn't been for Peter, l wouldn't be at all surprised if I'd grown up to be an Anita Bryant supporter. But I just don't have any of those crazy ideas about the typical homosexual waiting in a dark alley with candy to tempt some kid into the dark to fuck him. I know what happens. You know, I think it could have been good if the same thing happened to my son.... I think it might bring us closer together."

He can't take the final step though.

"No, I don't think I'd want my son to be gay. But I can't defend that. I guess it must be things in my upbringing... but if he came to me and said he was, and was sure of it — yes, I'd accept him."

Less of an endorsement than I might have wanted, I suppose. But I think I can understand it. If I had a son, and he were growing up straight, I think I would be disappointed, a little grieved, even a bit resentful — but I think I could handle it. It is a mark of love to want for those close to you those things in life that have been splendid — and, yes, what there is of splendour in my life happens along with being gay. I'm sure Don feels that about being straight. And I sometimes think were doomed to feel about each other what one feels in a foreign country when everyone is, well, simply adorable but they all do everything wrong. Trying, but you can handle it.

Barry got in touch with me. He'd heard what I was doing, wanted to talk about himself, wanted to let me see how his relationship worked, and since I am not only an ordinarily curious individual but something of a voyeur, I said yes.

It was to be a weekend tenting in the woods. Billy didn't live in Toronto. He was a farm boy, lived in one of those houses in the middle of a flat area with cows in it somewhere north of the city, and since Barry wasn't known to Mom and Dad and crusty old grandpa he simply camped in the woods across the way. Billy, the boy he loved, the boy who loved him, came to him there out of one of those lazily large families where, thank heaven, not all of the kids are underfoot at the same time, and you don't question too closely a twelve-year-old boy who has the good sense to be out of the house all afternoon and half the night. Not if the chores are done anyway.

Barry is a chatterer. Five foot five and rather impish, he has the chatterer's ability to string together absolutely unrelated topics in a curiously coherent way — so though you feel you've been talked to, you don't feel exhausted. And I didn't as we barrelled down the dirt country road to be met, coincidentally, by Billy and two older brothers barrelling down the same country road in the opposite direction. There were great screams of "Barry!", screeching to a halt and then they were shy because I was there saying things like "How do you do" instead of "Hi." But they agreed to come and help us set up the tent.

They had fun. There was no doubt they were as thrilled to see Barry as he was to see them — that first great braying of his name out of their car window made that clear to me. The brothers were fifteen and sixteen, I think; they knew the score — Barry had had sex with both of them some years before, but with Billy it was something special and I could see that he got most of the attention. Nothing "romantic" — that would have been hooted, but when a wrestling match started it was clear who would be paired with whom.

I felt out of it. I mean sometimes I think farts are funny but I don't think a lot of farts are funny. And it's been a long time since I listened to people telling dirty stories. Or quarrelled over who could beat up whom. And I think it was probably then that I realized you practically had to be a pedophile to love kids — kids at their most outrageously banal, kids when they're not being "nice" the way schools package them for mom and dad — and me, for that matter. Not that it was all unremittingly horrible — it was easy sometimes just to be carried away by the sheer energetic nonsense of it all, particularly after we'd knocked off a bottle of wine.

I was glad to see midnight. The two older boys crept off home and we got ready to slip into our sleeping bags — in our underwear, though I could tell by the giggling that Barry and Billy had taken theirs off as soon as the flashlight went off. Odd man out, I lay there listening to the murmuring, the giggling, the occasional explosive snort. But it didn't last long. And we were all asleep when the two older boys came back and moonhooted us outside the tent until they roused us and told us that Billy had to go home because his mom had discovered that he wasn't just sleeping out in the back of the truck the way they'd told her. He was dressed and gone in a minute.

The next day we talked. I mean Billy and I did after breakfast in a roadside restaurant. Barry went off to the can for longer than was really necessary and that had been arranged.

What did I discover? No startling truths, no insight into the human condition, not even any insights into this particular relationship — though I think it became clear to me that it was a relationship, and a significant one. Billy didn't talk like that. He said Barry was his best friend. He said he wished Barry lived in the country so he could see him more often. He said he like "fooling around," which was their way of talking about sex, but he was shy about that and we didn't get into it. And that was that.

So. I had trekked off to the country and found — a relationship. Seen what I'd been hearing about from Simon and Peter, seen two people drawing delight from each other's company, seen two criminals at work. Let's not forget that.

Let's not forget that C J Atkinson and associates are criminals — the way we were before 1969, the way we still are if we try anything other than the things you can do with one (and only one) other individual over twenty-one and very much in private.

Anita Bryant won't let us — or anyone else — forget it.

"Save Our Children, Inc" is the name of the game, although the organizers seem to be cynically aware of just what that means: "The molestation tactic was the thing that particularly got the headlines. We now know how effectively it can be used," said Robert Brake, one of the top officials of that organization. Who wouldn't want to save our children, after all, save them from things like the Houston mass murder horrors, save them from being pawed by nasty old men? That's what molestation means to most people, it's what the media encourages them to believe, it's a belief "Save Our Children" does nothing to discourage.

They've added a refinement. Recruitment. Because homosexuals can't reproduce, they must recruit.

Anita should know. Because recruitment is what she is all about. She wants our children. And, yes, they're our children too.

She's going to get some of them, and some of those are going to grow up gay, and some are going to grow up straight. If they're gay, they'll grow up miserable, hating themselves, their desires and their community; becoming mean, or robot-like, or blustering hypocrites because that's what happens to love that's taught to hate itself. And if they grow up straight, they'll grow up proud to be Americans, secretly proud to be white, a majority that's "quiet" because its soul is empty, in marriages that last and last because nothing is quite so binding as mutual distaste and suspicion.

Anita's recruits. They've been with us for a long time. They tried to save our children from witches, and turned the middle ages into a charnel house of burning and innocent flesh. They tried to save our children from Jews, and almost succeeded through twelve years of methodical and monstrous savagery. They tried to save our children from communists, and sat with Senator McCarthy in judgment upon heroic lives trying to salvage some dignity, some integrity from that degrading exercise. Now they want to save our children from homosexuals. They want to save our children from us.

Yes, we have our recruits, though they are not, as Bryant would have us believe, legions of hapless children diverted from the straight and narrow by the corrosive touch of some predatory homosexual.

Don is one of our recruits. He's not gay, but "when I'm with straight people and they say something derogatory or stupid about gays, I always try to turn it around, make them see they're stupid. I can't go as far as I'd like sometimes.... I'd be suspect myself and that would be hard to take. But I try."

Simon's students are recruits. If they grow up gay, they grow up remembering a loved role model, they grow up knowing sexual acts are not disgusting, they grow up with the possibility of coming out long before the early-to-mid twenties, the age when so many of us finally caved in, or came out.

If they grow up straight, they may not, like Don, do their best to defend gay people in the small ways he's chosen, but somewhere in the back of all that bliss they fall heir to, they are going to know the Anita Bryants of this world are out-and-out fruitcakes. And maybe, just maybe, if they're presented someday with a ballot which asks them to say a simple yes or no to civil rights for homosexuals, and they're alone in a polling booth and no one can see what they mark, then, maybe they'll remember what happened to them twenty years ago and vote the way they remember.

I have seen a photograph of Anita and family praying together before they go to bed — in pyjamas yet. Besides marvelling that anyone would consciously do anything quite so kitsch, I feel a real sense of sadness for those kids, down on their knees and huddled between momma and poppa Bryant. One or more of them could very easily be gay. And he or she would be the truly molested child.

Every homosexual has suffered that molestation. Every homosexual's sexuality has been interfered with — impeded, strangled, diverted, denounced, "cured," pitied, punished. That is molestation. And it has nothing to do with what Simon, Barry and Peter are doing.

They are the heirs of Mr Atkinson, "Leader in Boys' Work," community workers who deserve our praise, our admiration and our support.

==External Links==
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ImaginaryBoy: New page: An archived article by Gerald Hannon, from ''The Body Politic'', Issue 39, Dec 1977/Jan 1978. ---- '''Preamble''' 1977 has been the Year of the Children. The year of the childr...

Communism

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ImaginaryBoy: New page: Youth rights, including the sexual liberation of children, is compatible with some interpretations of '''communism'''. Marxism views the nuclear family as a means for the subordina...

[[Youth rights]], including the sexual liberation of children, is compatible with some interpretations of '''communism'''. Marxism views the nuclear [[family]] as a means for the subordination of children and women, exploitation upon which capitalism is supposedly dependent. [[Family values]] -- monogamy, homophobia, sexual suppression, and other enemies of free love -- are enforced to maintain the traditional family unit. According to some communists, extending rights to children would undermine the father's place of power and interrupt the inheritance of class and acceptance of classist models.

==USSR==
:"But perhaps the most important illustration of the link between struggle and sexuality is the Russian Revolution of 1917, in which the working class exploded the limits of capitalism. In the brief period in which the revolution flourished, the revolutionaries abolished all laws against homosexuality, introduced divorce by request, abortion on demand and repealed the age of consent laws."<ref>"[http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/gayleft/socalt.rtf Sexual Liberation and Socialism]," ''Socialist Alternative'' (Red Guide), issue 16, April 1997.</ref>
The 1920s were a period of relative sexual openness for the USSR. Erotic "experimentation" was reportedly common during meetings of the Young Pioneer youth organization. Parents "complained that their 10–12 year old children came home at 3–4 am, declaring that they were at the Pioneer meetings and cut off parental protests with threats and accusations of counter-revolution."

The disempowerment of the working class by Stalinism in the 1930s roughly coincided with the start of a moral panic over "unhealthy relations" between children. It was claimed that "the abnormal sexual relations between children" had "taken on menacing proportions" and required "extreme measures." Sexual indulgence was thought to distract children from more productive activities. The state began to enforce a strict taboo against sexualities that did not conform to the Victorian model. The uniforms of one summer camp were criticized on the grounds that "pants are not entirely hygienic for girls, because they cause in them excessive friction in the sexual organs."

The problem of youth sexuality was eventually deemed severe enough for the state to segregate male and female schooling. [[Ann Livschiz]] writes that this action reflected the "fundamental social conservatism of the majority of the top political leadership of the country and their great fear of youth, and particularly female, sexuality, as a force that could not be overcome, controlled or fully harnessed for the service of the state."<ref>Livschiz, Ann (2008). "Battling "Unhealthy Relations": Soviet Youth Sexuality as a Political Problem," ''Journal of Historical Sociology'', 21(4), 397-416.</ref>

[[Josef Stalin]] is known to have had an affair with a 13-year-old girl at the age of 36.<ref>Sebag-Montefiore, Simon (2007). [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454291/Stalin-lover-aged-13.html Stalin and his lover aged 13], ''The Daily Mail'', 11 May.</ref>

==Anti-capitalist supporters==

*An immediate demand of the [[Communist Party of Great Britain]]: "The abolition of age-of-consent laws. We recognise the right of individuals to enter into the sexual relations they choose provided this does not conflict with the rights of others. Alternative legislation to protect children from sexual abuse."[http://www.cpgb.org.uk/documents/cpgb/prog_demands.html]

*[[The Spartacist League]]: "Marxists oppose all laws against “crimes without victims,” such as prostitution, drug use or pornography. We utterly reject the practice whereby looking at pornography is equated with violent crimes such as rape, sexual assault and even murder. We also oppose the criminalization of those who look at child pornography which, like all pornography, is simply words and images designed for pleasure. [...] In line with this, we do not think intergenerational sex is by definition abusive, nor do we think incest is a priori a crime to be punished by the bourgeois state. [...] We oppose age of consent laws because we oppose state intervention into people’s private sexual activities. We do not accord the capitalist state the right to decree the age at which youth may engage in consensual sexual activity. To create genuinely free and equal relations between people in all spheres, including sex, requires nothing less than the destruction of this class system and the creation of a communist world. In a classless society, social and economic constraints over sexual relations will be non-existent, and in the words of Friedrich Engels, 'there is no other motive left except mutual inclination.'"[http://www.spartacist.org/english/wv/876/canadasex.html]

*The US Revolutionary Socialist League (disbanded): "We believe that all consensual sex is the business only of those involved. The state has no business regulating in any way expressions of sexuality between consenting persons of any number, sex, or age. The state's attempt to regulate youth sexuality in particular is rooted in young people's position as property of their parents and/or wards of the state. Young people are jailed in schools, economically exploited, and denied the most basic political rights. Society maintains this oppression by imposing the idea that young people are not capable of determing their own wants and needs, in particular their sexual needs and desires. We oppose age of consent laws. These laws deny the ability of young people to determine their own sexual needs and desires. They maintain the status of youth as property, and reinforce the closet for gay youth."[http://books.google.ca/books?id=0b5xmYpoZE4C]

*Sandra Bloodworth: "Ultimately children will not gain genuine liberation until capitalism has been destroyed root and branch and a new society is built in which all human sexuality is encouraged and nurtured instead of despised and repressed."[http://www.sa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=565&Itemid=106]

*[[David Thorstad]], founder of NAMBLA

*[[Shulamith Firestone]], Marxist feminist

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ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Adult-child sex'''<ref name="ACS-JMM">[http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/14853.htm "Nicole Kidman's BIRTH: shocking double standards" from John Mark Ministries] (Link/source last verified ...

'''Adult-child sex'''<ref name="ACS-JMM">[http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/14853.htm "Nicole Kidman's BIRTH: shocking double standards" from John Mark Ministries] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-PAN">[http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/misuse.htm "Adult-Child Sex: Abuse or Misuse?" from Prevent Abuse Now] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-Fox">[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,49382,00.html "Mainstream Book Advocating Adult-Child Sex Draws Howls of Protest" from Fox News] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-Spokesman">[http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=5616 "Adult-child sex is wrong – always" from The Spokesman-Review] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-MHC">[http://www.mhamic.org/sources/finkelhor.htm "What’s wrong with sex between adults and children?" from Male Homosexual Attraction to Minors Information Center] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-WND">[http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27104 "'Nothing new' in book condoning child sex" from World Net Daily] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-IPCE">[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/star_tribune.htm "Some in mainstream contend certain cases of adult-minor sex should be acceptable" from Star Tribune (Minneapolis, Minnesota)]
:: ''These academics seek to change the language, moving away from "pedophilia," which often evokes a charged negative response, particularly in light of the priest-pedophile cases challenging the Roman Catholic Church. In its place would be more neutral terms such as "intergenerational sex" or "adult-child sex."''
:: (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-JSP">[http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/0047-2786.00002 Referencing journal article entitled "What's Wrong with Adult-Child Sex?" by Claudia Card (2002) from the Journal of Social Philosophy 33 (2), 170–177.] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-Baptist1">[http://baptistpress.net/bpnews.asp?id=801 "Baptists criticize implication that adult-child sex may not be harmful" by Don Hinkle from Baptist Press] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-NYTimes2">[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F06E7DA1238F930A25755C0A96F958260 "Study on Child Sex Abuse Provokes a Political Furor" by Erica Goode from the New York Times]
:: ''The authors also suggested that the term ''adult-adolescent sex'' or ''adult-child sex'' be substituted, in some cases, for ''child sexual abuse.''
::(Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-FFL">[http://fathersforlife.org/dale/pedophil.html "Is adult/child sex always abusive?" by Dale O'Leary from Fathers for Life] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name="ACS-Baptist2">[http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=14034 "Push for adult-child sex threatens society's moral fabric, Land says" by Dwayne Hastings from the Baptist Press] (Link/source last verified 16 January 2008)</ref><ref name=RichardGreen>[[Richard Green]]. "[http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/pedophilia.htm#1 Is Pedophilia a Mental Disorder?]". Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 31, No. 6, December 2002, pp. 467–471.</ref> is a term referring to sexual intercourse<ref name="McCain1">http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/ca-wt-04-19-02
''Ms. Levine cites research about "happy consensual sex among kids under 12," and writes: "America's drive to protect kids from sex is protecting them from nothing. Instead, often it is harming them."''
:: ''But researchers and activists say the book is only the most recent in a series of academic arguments for "consensual" sex involving children''
:: ''In 2000, the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco published an article, "Sexual Rights of Children," saying there is "considerable evidence" that there is no "inherent harm in sexual expression in childhood."''
:: ''San Francisco State University professor Gilbert Herdt, co-author of the 1996 book "Children of Horizons: How Gay and Lesbian Teens Are Leading a New Way Out of the Closet," said in an interview with the Dutch pedophilia journal Paidika that "the category 'child' is a rhetorical device for inflaming what is really an irrational set of attitudes" against sex with children.''
:: ''John Money, professor emeritus of psychology at Johns Hopkins University, gave an interview to Paidika about "genuinely, totally mutual" sex between boys and men. In the introduction to a Dutch professor's 1987 book called, "Boys on their Contacts with Men: A Study of Sexually Expressed Friendships," Mr. Money wrote that opponents of pedophilia are motivated by "self-imposed, moralistic ignorance."''
:: ''Harris Mirkin, a professor at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, published a 1999 article in the Journal of Homosexuality complaining that boys who have sex with men "are never considered willing participants, even if they are hustlers." He has also written that "children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality."''
:: ''A 1998 "meta-analytic" study in an American Psychological Association (APA) journal argued, among other things, that "value-neutral" language such as "adult-child sex" should be used to describe child molestation if it was a "willing encounter."''
:: ''Ms. Levine's book favorably cites the Rind study and, in a telephone interview, she defended the study as "methodologically meticulous."''
:: ''Academic defenses of sex between adults and children are not new. Indiana University professor Alfred Kinsey claimed in his famous 1948 and 1952 reports on human sexuality that "children are sexual from birth" and included charts of "data" gathered by pedophiles about the children they molested.''
:: (Link/source last verified 10 January 2008)</ref> between an [[adult]] (a person over the [[age of consent]]), and a [[child]], usually viewed as a person below the age of consent (in other contexts, specifically a pre-[[adolescent]] or pre-[[puberty|pubescent]] youth). In most industrialized societies, adult-child sex is considered [[child sexual abuse]] by a large majority of people. Societal views and legal ramifications have varied across cultures and throughout history.<ref name="USAToday1">{{cite web | author=Robert Stacy McCain
| title=Experts debate impact, gray areas of adult-child sex | work=''USA Today'' | date=2002-04-17 |url=http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002/04/17/adult-child-sex.htm}}
::''Sex researchers and academics are tussling over a topic that most Americans don't even want to think about: sex between adults and children. Some of these experts are making the startling assertion that not all sexual activity between adults and minors is necessarily harmful.''
::''But some serious researchers and academics want to review the term "child sexual abuse," preferring a more neutral term such as "adult-child sex."''
::''Experts debate whether sex with an adult is more damaging for an adolescent girl than for a boy, as some research indicates.''
::''"I think the evidence has been clear for some time that child and adolescent sexual abuse does not always do harm in the long term," says David Finkelhor of the University of New Hampshire, one of the nation's foremost researchers on the sexual abuse of children. "That is the good news."''
::''Discussions about adult-child sex are appearing in professional journals, including a special issue last month of the AmericanPsychologist, a journal of the American Psychological Association (APA).''
::''The adult-child theme has been picked up on TV shows such as Boston Public, Once and Again and Dawson's Creek.''
::(Link/source last verified 10 January 2008)</ref> In a less strict definition, it may refer to a wider range of sexual activity.<ref name="McCain1">{{cite web | author=Robert Stacy McCain
| title=Endorsement of adult-child sex on rise | work=The ''Washington Times'' | date=2002-04-19 |url=http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/ca-wt-04-19-02}}
:: ''Ms. Levine cites research about "happy consensual sex among kids under 12," and writes: "America's drive to protect kids from sex is protecting them from nothing. Instead, often it is harming them."''
:: ''But researchers and activists say the book is only the most recent in a series of academic arguments for "consensual" sex involving children''
:: ''In 2000, the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality in San Francisco published an article, "Sexual Rights of Children," saying there is "considerable evidence" that there is no "inherent harm in sexual expression in childhood."''
:: ''San Francisco State University professor Gilbert Herdt, co-author of the 1996 book "Children of Horizons: How Gay and Lesbian Teens Are Leading a New Way Out of the Closet," said in an interview with the Dutch pedophilia journal Paidika that "the category 'child' is a rhetorical device for inflaming what is really an irrational set of attitudes" against sex with children.''
:: ''John Money, professor emeritus of psychology at Johns Hopkins University, gave an interview to Paidika about "genuinely, totally mutual" sex between boys and men. In the introduction to a Dutch professor's 1987 book called, "Boys on their Contacts with Men: A Study of Sexually Expressed Friendships," Mr. Money wrote that opponents of pedophilia are motivated by "self-imposed, moralistic ignorance."''
:: ''Harris Mirkin, a professor at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, published a 1999 article in the Journal of Homosexuality complaining that boys who have sex with men "are never considered willing participants, even if they are hustlers." He has also written that "children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality."''
:: ''A 1998 "meta-analytic" study in an American Psychological Association (APA) journal argued, among other things, that "value-neutral" language such as "adult-child sex" should be used to describe child molestation if it was a "willing encounter."''
:: ''Ms. Levine's book favorably cites the Rind study and, in a telephone interview, she defended the study as "methodologically meticulous."''
:: ''Academic defenses of sex between adults and children are not new. Indiana University professor Alfred Kinsey claimed in his famous 1948 and 1952 reports on human sexuality that "children are sexual from birth" and included charts of "data" gathered by pedophiles about the children they molested.''
:: (Link/source last verified 10 January 2008)</ref> People often colloquially, though inaccurately, refer to all such activity as [[pedophilia]].<ref name="Ames">Ames, A. & Houston, D. A. (1990). "[http://www.springerlink.com/content/g8g66p6370731x85/ Legal, social, and biological definitions of pedophilia.]" ''Archives of Sexual Behavior''. '''19''' (4), 333-342.
:: ''Most important, much of the research has accepted a legal definition of pedophilia, treating all offenders convicted of child molestation as pedophiles, regardless of the age or appearance of the victim. We argue that a distinction should be made between biological children and sociolegal children. Laws governing child molestation reflect sociolegal childhood, regardless of its discrepancy with biological childhood. True pedophiles should be identified by their preference for biological children. By using legal classifications, researchers may well be confusing two distinct types of offenders, child molesters and rapists, and confounding attempts to understand pedophilia.''
::(Link/source last verified 09 January 2008)</ref>

== Historical views ==

The phenomenon of adult-child sex is observable throughout the animal kingdom and has served different functions during the recorded history of mankind. In the late 19th century, early industrialized Western societies discovered "youth" as a distinct period of life, and began criminalizing sexual interaction between children and adults.<ref name="Killias1">Killias, M, Dr., in Sandfort, Brongersma, Naerssen (ed.) 'Male Intergenerational Intimacy', Haworth Press, 1991, pp 41-46.</ref> Modern Western cultures began to deem harmful all sexual relations between adults and children, giving rise to the contemporary concept of [[child sexual abuse]].<ref name="UPenn1">[http://www.sp2.upenn.edu/~restes/CSEC_Files/CSEC_Bib_August_2001.pdf The Sexual Exploitation of Children], ''Chart 1: Definitions of Terms Associated With the Sexual Exploitation (SEC) and Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children (CSEC)'' (p. 4), University of Pennsylvania Center for Youth Policy Studies, U.S. National Institute of Justice, August 2001.
:: ''Child Sexual Abuse (CSA): Sexual activity involving persons younger than 18 years of age. Most often perpetrated by an adult, such activities include rape and molestation, pornography, and exposure of children to the sexual acts of others''
:: (Link/source last verified 09 January 2008)</ref>

Very recently the topic of adult-child sex has become a topic of serious research apart from assumptions of child sexual abuse, as well as entering mainstream entertainment and media as a serious area of debate and research.<ref name=USAToday1/>
=== Across cultures ===

While most Western societies condemn adult-child sex as child sexual abuse, not all cultures do so.<ref name="Green1">[[Richard Green]]. "[http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/pedophilia.htm Is Pedophilia a Mental Disorder?]". Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 31, No. 6, December 2002, pp. 467–471.
:: ''Ford and Beach (1951) described cross-cultural examples of child–adult sex from the Human Relation Area files at Yale University.''
:: ''In the eighteenth century, Cook (1773) reported copulation in public in Hawaii between an adult male and a female estimated to be 11 or 12 "without the least sense of it being indecent or improper" (cited in Diamond, 1990). Sexual interactions between adult and child were seen as benefitting the child, rather than as gratifying the adult. The sexual desire by an adult for a nonadult, heterosexual or homosexual, was accepted (Pukui, Haertig, & Lee, 1972, cited in Diamond, 1990).''
:: ''Observations concern a near relative of Man, the bonobo, where these "pigmy chimps" are allowed free access to any other bonobo for sexual contact at the San Diego Zoo. Nonfertile combinations (same-sex or juvenile–adult combinations) were as frequent as potentially fertile, adult male–female combinations. Further, one third of sociosexual contacts by an adult with an infant were initiated by the infant (De Waal, 1990).''
:: ''How common is sexual interest or arousal in persons not known to be, or self-labeled as, pedophiles? In a sample of nearly 200 university males, 21%reported some sexual attraction to small children, 9% described sexual fantasies involving children, 5% admitted to having masturbated to sexual fantasies of children, and 7% indicated they might have sex with a child if not caught (Briere & Runtz, 1989). Briere and Runtz remarked that "given the probable social undesirability of such admissions, we may hypothesize that the actual rates were even higher" (p. 71). In another sample with 100 male and 180 female undergraduate students, 22% of males and 3% of females reported sexual attraction to a child (Smiljanich & Briere, 1996).''
:: (Link/source last verified 09 January 2008)</ref>

According to the 2001 Human Rights Watch World Report, in Yemen in 1999 the minimum marriage age of fifteen for women, rarely enforced, was abolished; the onset of puberty, interpreted by conservatives to be at the age of nine, was set as a requirement for consummation of marriage.<ref name="Yemen-marriage">http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/mideast/yemen.html</ref>

=== Ethnological/Anthropological ===

=== Nonhuman comparisons ===

It seems that sexual activity in many higher vertebrate species has evolved from simple procreation to additionally serve purposes of social nature, and thus many species engage in a variety of sexual activities beyond fertilization, or strict opposite-sex and adult-adult pairings. The displayal of sexual interest towards fellow specimen tends to instantly end intra-species conflicts and aggressive behavior, and to initiate sexual activity, however it is under dispute among academics<ref name="B-E1985/88">Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg, Gisela: ''The Paedophile Impulse: Toward the Development of an Aetiology of Child-Adult Sexual Contacts from an Ethological and Ethnological Viewpoint'', in: ''Paidika - Journal of Paedophilia'', no. 3, 1988 (original German abridged publication in 1985 as ''Der pädophile Impuls - Wie lernt ein junger Mensch Sexualität?'' in the sociological and political journal ''Der Monat'', founded and published by Melvin J. Lasky, editor-in-chief Michael Naumann, publisher emeritus of ''Die Zeit'', former federal Minister of State, a SPD candidate for mayor in the 2008 Hamburg elections; second English edition published 1997 in: Joseph Geraci, Angelia R. Wilson (ed.): ''Dares to speak: Historical and Contemporary Perspectives on Boy-Love'', Gay Men's Press: London)</ref> whether these sexual displayals to end conflicts count as domination and submission or rather consensual restoration of group peace by mutually enjoyed behavior.

Naming the common forms of intimate juvenile-adult sexual interactions in animals, German psychologist, sociologist, ethnologist, Indo-European scholar, religious scholar, and philosopher [[Gisela Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg]] writes<ref name="B-E1985/88"/>:

:''The 'fondling' connected with the reaction to the ''infant model'' in non-human primates, and in those primitive peoples that have no taboos relating to this, includes caresses, smelling, licking, 'romping', and the well-known 'grooming'. Touching and manipulation of the genitals of children belong in this context among the acts of devotion, while in humans, as a result of the heightened mobility of the hand, manual actions can supplement many of the forms of devotion mentioned. Their own reaction to the ''encoded stimulus'' of the ''infant model'' brings to those reacting an intensive experience of satisfaction (the 'reward' of nature, so to speak, for the response to the ''encoded stimulus'').''

While also engaging in juvenile-adult sexual interactions, adult males ''"appear to limit penetration and ejaculation to contacts with mature females"'', that is to procreative sexual activities.<ref>Waal, F.B.M. de, ''Sociosexual Behavior Used for Tension Regulation in All Age and Sex Combinations Among Bonobos'', in Feierman, J. (ed.), ''Pedophilia: Biosocial Dimensions'', New York: Springer-Verlag, 1990</ref>

While it seems common for immature individuals to practice sexual interactions with mature ones and thus most juveniles within populations seem to go through a stage at one time or another with more or less frequent such behavior with adults, the percentage of mature individuals within a herd or pack to engage in this behavior appears more limited, and these adults often do so in a promiscious fashion.<ref name="B-E1985/88"/>

Many individual members of higher vertebrate species do not exhibit nurturing behavior towards the young of their species independently of social factors, i. e. if they are separated from their group early in life, growing up and reaching adulthood in isolation; even highly violent and murderous behavior towards their own offspring is observed in, for instance, chimpanzee mothers that grew up in isolation.<ref>''Grzimeks Tierleben'' ("Grzimek's zoology"), vol. 1, ''Säugetiere'' ("Mammals"), Munich/Germany, 1979, p. 533.</ref> An unusually high correlation is however observed between adult desire for practicing consensual juvenile-adult sexual interactions and obviously instinctly triggered nurturing behavior towards juveniles even in case of prior isolation of the adult individual, a correlation so high that it appears that adult individuals desiring juvenile-adult sexual interactions could be the only individuals posessing a genetical nurturing instinct independent of social influence.<ref name="B-E1985/88"/>

== Ethical considerations ==
=== Sex within adult-child marriage ===


Ibn Warraq writes that Muhammad's example encourages the practice of child marriage in Muslim communities: "child marriages continue to be practiced, and the fact that the Prophet himself married Aisha when she was only nine and he was fifty-three encourages Muslim society to continue with this iniquitous custom."<ref name=MuhammadWife-note>Ibn Warraq, ''Why I Am Not a Muslim'', p. 320, Prometheus Books, 1995, 0879759844</ref>


=== Sex as form of abuse ===

The widely-accepted view of adult-child sex among both legal experts and lay people is that it is an inherently abusive practice by the adult against the child.<ref name=Ames/> Supported by evidence from several studies of child sexual abuse victims, psychologists argue that the inability of children to provide full and informed consent to sexual acts necessarily makes all such acts abusive in regards to the child. <ref>[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/abuse.htm Comment on Rind, Tromovitch, and Bauserman] ([[Rind et al. (1998)]]), Steven J. Ondersma , Mark Chaffin, Lucy Berliner, Ingrid Cordon and Gail S. Goodman, and Douglas Barnett, ''[[Psychological Bulletin]]'' Vol. 127. No 6.707-714, 1998.</ref>

The [[American Psychiatric Association]] maintains the position that "children cannot consent to sexual activity with adults",<ref name="apaposition">[http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/rind/apa.html Leadership Council - APA Statement on Child Sexual Abuse] Quote: "...it is the position of the Association that children cannot consent to sexual activity with adults."</ref><ref name="delay">[http://www.apa.org/releases/delay.html APA Letter to the Honorable Rep. DeLay (R-Tx.)]</ref> and condemns the action of the adult in strong terms: "An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act which never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior."<ref name="apaposition"/>

A paper by [[David Finkelhor]] argued for "the importance of a stronger ethical position" than the belief that sex with adults causes harm to children. In his paper, Finkelhor calls into question what he considers to be three common arguments relating to "intrinsic harm", "premature sexualization" and "unnaturalness" of the act, describing them as both inadequate and lacking in solid empirical footing. Instead, he draws a parallel between Adult-child sex and sex between a therapist and a patient, stating that while there may be cases where the patient benefits, it should still be considered wrong due to the fundamental asymmetry of the relationship.<ref name="ACS-MHC"/>He wrote: "It is suggested that basing the prohibition of adult-child sex on the premise that children are incapable of full and informed consent will provide a more solid and consistent approach to the problem."<ref>Finkelhor, David. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=495708&dopt=Citation What's wrong with sex between adults and children? Ethics and the problem of sexual abuse.]</ref>

=== Sex as non-abusive ===

Those who have disagreed with the majority viewpoint include philosophers, academics, writers, and pro-pedophile activists.<ref name="NudistHallofShame">http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/NudistHallofShame/Okami.html</ref><ref name="McCain1"/> In the controversial 2002 book ''[[Harmful to Minors]]'', the feminist writer [[Judith Levine]] wrote that some scholars challenge the idea that all sexual activity between adults and minors is necessarily harmful,<ref>Levine, J. (2003). Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex, Thunder's Mouth Press</ref> and that in some cases, "quite young" people can have a positive sexual experience with an adult, referring specifically to "happy consensual sex among kids under 12."<ref name="McCain1"/>[[Psychology|Psychologists]] Bruce Rind and Robert Bauserman argued in a 1998 study ([[Rind et al. (1998)|Rind et al.]]) that not all cases of adult-child sex should be termed [[child sexual abuse]]. Authors of the study argued that "CSA does not cause intense harm on a pervasive basis regardless of gender.", and that "an important reason why the assumed properties of CSA failed to withstand empirical scrutiny in the current review is that the construct of CSA, as commonly conceptualized by researchers, is of questionable scientific validity." This study was officially "condemned" by the United States Congress, an event which marked the first time in U.S. history that Congress officially condemned a study published in a major scientific journal.<ref>[http://www.mhamic.org/rind/ Rind controversy]</ref>

== Impetus ==

=== Close-in-age ===

Strictly speaking, sex between a person just below the age of consent and a person just above it can be termed (and considered by some) to be a form of adult-child sex. In these situations, legal defenses are often available when the age difference is small.

=== Pedophilia ===

The [[American Psychiatric Association]] and the [[World Health Organization]] both define pedophilia as attraction by adults and older youths toward [[Puberty|prepubescent]] children (less than 13 years of age), whether the attraction is acted upon or not.<ref>American Psychiatric Association (2000). Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (fourth edition text revision), § 302.2</ref><ref>World Health Organization, International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems 10. § F65.4</ref> Researchers like Howard E. Barbaree have argued for a sharper focus on sexual activity over sexual attraction, asserting that the diagnosis of pedophilia only apply to those who have sexual relations with children, rather than to all who experience the desire.<ref name="barbaree-seto">Barbaree, H. E., and Seto, M. C. (1997). Pedophilia: Assessment and Treatment. ''Sexual Deviance: Theory, Assessment, and Treatment''. 175-193.</ref>

Some research indicates that most perpetrators of child sexual abuse are not primarily interested in prepubescent youths.<ref>Lanning, Kenneth (2001). ''[http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/publications/NC70.pdf Child Molesters: A Behavioral Analysis]'' (Third Edition). National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.</ref> In two studies designed to measure sexual preferences using phallometric data, it was found that "''30% of the [child sex] offenders tested did not show sufficient arousal [to children] to derive a usable score.''" <ref>Wogan, Michael (2002). ''[http://crab.rutgers.edu/~mwogan/eyemovement.htm]''Wogan, Michael (2002)</ref> Sociology professor Rüdiger Lautmann, in his book on pedophilia, stated: "In this book I am concerned exclusively with the first type [the true pedophile who "has a general interest in social contact with children, including a sexual dimension"], which constitutes approximately 5% of all pedosexually active men."<ref name="Lautmann1">Rüdiger Lautmann [''http://www.shfri.net/trans/lautmann/lautmann.htm''] Rüdiger Lautmann</ref> A survey of cases of father-daughter [[incest]] concluded that most involve fathers who are situational offenders, rather than pedophiles.<ref>Quinsey, V. L. (1977). "The assessment and treatment of child molesters: A review." ''Canadian Psychological Review.'' '''18''', 204-220.</ref>

=== Ephebophilia ===
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=== Initiation ===

A sexual initiation is a first experience of sexual intercourse by a child, usually a teenager or late adolescent, with an adult, and is more common among boys and women than girls and men.

=== Prostitution ===
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== Legal implications ==
=== Issues ===
Sexual relations between adults and [[child]]ren are widely outlawed, although the ''definition'' of [[child]] varies greatly between different cultures and jurisdictions. Adults violating these laws are generally subject to severe criminal penalties, in some cases life imprisonment or capital punishment. 

In the interest of child protection, this practice is outlawed, along with other forms of [[child abuse]] and [[sexual assault]],<ref>[http://www.nspcc.org.uk/helpandadvice/whatchildabuse/sexualabuse/sexualabuse_wda36370.html What is sexual abuse?], [[NSPCC|National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children]]</ref> almost everywhere. Adults violating these laws are generally subject to severe criminal penalties, in some cases life imprisonment or capital punishment. Production of [[child pornography]] also incurs strict punishment because it itself constitutes child sexual abuse. The possession and distribution of child pornography is likewise punished with strict measures, due to the assumed possibility of these acts to facilitate further child sexual abuse. 

The popular consensus in defining the appropriate [[age of consent]] has moved upwards in modern times, coincident with changes in scientific and moral views of human sexuality and the psychological and social nature of childhood. In [[England]], the legal age of consent was 10 for three centuries, until the end of the 19th century.<ref>http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/pedophilia.htm#1</ref> By the turn of the 20th century, 14 to 18 had become the norm in many places, particularly Western and Western-influenced countries.<ref name="waites">Waites, M. (2005). The Age of Consent: Young People, Sexuality and Citizenship, Palgrave Macmillan</ref> In the 21st century, sexual relationships between adults and minors aged 16 to 18 are now considered legal in most countries, but legal variations exist allowing for ages of consent as young as 12 or as old as 21. A minority of countries either do not have any enforceable legal age of consent regulations, or have abolished such regualtions entirely in favour of arbitrary societal judgement and local customs.<ref>http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm Wordwide age of consent laws</ref>. According to the 2001 Human Rights Watch World Report, in Yemen in 1999 the minimum marriage age of fifteen for women, rarely enforced, was abolished; the onset of puberty, interpreted by conservatives to be at the age of nine, was set as a requirement for consummation of marriage. <ref>http://www.hrw.org/wr2k1/mideast/yemen.html</ref>

While sexual intercourse without consent is considered [[rape]], adult's intercourse with a child below the legal [[age of consent]], either with or without consent, is punishable under [[law]] with varying severity. In case of [[statutory rape]], consent by the child is not considered as legal consent.

=== French petitions and letters ===

In 1977, a petition was addressed to the French Parliament calling for the repeal of several articles of the age-of-consent law and the [[decriminalization]] of all consented relations between adults and minors below the age of fifteen (the age of consent in France at the time). The document was signed by the philosophers [[Michel Foucault]], [[Jacques Derrida]], [[Jean-Paul Sartre]], and [[Simone de Beauvoir]], as well as by novelist and gay activist [[Guy Hocquenghem]], and by "people belonging to a wide range of political positions".<ref>Foucault, Hocquenghem and Danet are referenced several times as petitioners in the Michel Foucault's text “[[Sexual Morality and the Law]]” ([http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/danger.htm online version in English]). The term “people belonging to a wide range of political positions” are mentioned on page 273.</ref><ref>The names of philosophers Jacques Derrida, Louis Althusser and André Glucksmann come from the [http://web.archive.org/web/20050404190912/http://www.decadi.com/dignaction/Fpetit.html Dignaction.org] website (in French). Finally, the names of philosophers Jean-Paul Sartre, Simone de Beauvoir and Roland Barthes, as well as of the writers Alain Robbe-Grillet and Philippe Sollers, come from the [http://www.denistouret.net/textes/Cohn-Bendit.html Denistouret.net] website (also in French).</ref> Similar sentiments were expressed by 69 signers of an open letter published January 26, 1977 in ''Le Monde'' concerning two men accused of violating France's age of consent law.

Another open letter was published in ''Libération'' in March, 1979, this time signed by 63 prominent French intellectuals, supporting a Frenchman accused of sexual relations with girls aged 6 to 12. According to the letter, the girls' "blooming shows before the eyes of all, including their parents, the happiness that they found with him."<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20050404190912/http://www.decadi.com/dignaction/Fpetit.html 1977-1979 petitions and signatures] (in French), retrieved 4 April 2005</ref>

== Academic research ==
=== Difficulty in researching ===
Psychiatrist Jay R. Feierman, describing what he considers to be the most common shortcomings of literature on Adult-child sex, writes:
:''...most of the lay and professional literature, although voluminous, reflect a narrow anthropo-, ethno-, and chronocentrism that precludes any real understanding of the topic with anything more than the preconceptions of our times. The writing is anthropocentric because the topic often is discussed as though humans were the only species in which sexual behavior between adults and nonadults is found. The writing is ethnocentric because the behavior is discussed as though it were, somehow, peculiar to Western industrialized societies. The writing is chronocentric because the behavior is discussed as though it were a recent development in the history of the human species. All of these ‘-centrisms’ obscure the fact that the behavior is seen in other species, societies, and times and has to be understood within these broader contexts.''<ref name="Feierman1">Feierman, J. (ed.), ''Pedophilia: Biosocial Dimensions'', New York: Springer-Verlag, 1990</ref>

==See also==
* [[Child marriage]]
* [[Child sexuality]]
* [[Ephebophilia]]
* [[Pedophilia]]
* [[Nepiophilia]]
* [[Pederasty]]
* [[False allegation of child sexual abuse]]
* [[Child sexual abuse]]
* [[Child pornography]]

== References ==
{{Reflist}}

==External Links==
* [http://newgon.com/wiki/Adult-child_sex "Adult-child sex"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Indecent images of children

2009-08-08T05:55:33Z

ImaginaryBoy:

<div style="margin-left: 25px; float: right;">__TOC__</div>An '''indecent image''' of a child is a photograph or pseudo-photograph (including one comprised in a film) which shows a child and is indecent. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&ActiveTextDocId=1502059]

==Definition of a photograph==

In R v Fellows & Arnold (1994), the appealant contended that an image stored electronically could not constitute an indecent photograph of a child under section 7 of the Protection of Children Act.

It was ruled that an electronically stored image was a "copy of an indecent photograph of a child". The court stated that "there is no restriction on the nature of a copy, [and a copy of a photograph is data which] represents the original photograph, in another form". It was also stated that "there is nothing in the Act which makes it necessary that [a] copy should itself be a photograph within the dictionary or the statutory definition, and if there was, it would make the inclusion of the reference to a copy unnecessary. So we conclude that there is no restriction on the nature of a copy [..]" [http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/1996/825.html]

According to section 7 of the Protection of Children Act, references to a photograph are "the negative as well as the positive version; and data stored on a computer disc or by other electronic means which is capable of conversion into a photograph." [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&activetextdocid=1502066]

So, an image stored electronically is a copy of a photograph and is illegal if it is indecent and shows a child.

==Definition of a pseudo-photograph==

A pseudo-photograph is an image which has the appearance of a photograph, but which is not a photograph. A pseudo-photograph of a child does not necessarily show a real child.

==Defintion of a child==

A child was originally defined as a person under the age of 16, however the [[Sexual Offences Act (2003)]] raised the defintion of "child" to a person under the age of 18.

==Indecency==

The decency of an image is an objective test; that is, it is decided by the jury. Indecency is considered to be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_of_fact question of fact].

===Interpretation===

In order to judge whether an image is indecent, the jury must "apply[..] the recognised standards of propriety." (''R v Graham-Kerr'', 1988) [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/grahamKerr.html].

In 2003, the Sentencing Advisory Panel provided guidance for Judges considering sentences for people convicted of an offence under the Protection of Children Act. The lowest level of indecency was described as "images depicting erotic posing with no sexual activity", which would suggest that naturist images without posing are not indecent. Despite this, a number of people have been convicted of an offence for making and possessing naturist images. In 2003, Tom O'Carroll was convicted of "evading the prohibition on the importation of indecent material", for importing photographs of "young naked child[ren] engaging in normal outdoor activity such as playing on a beach". One should never assume that an image must be pornographic for it to be indecent.

Put simply, a photograph or pseudo-photograph is judged to be indecent if the jury believes that it would offend the majority of the population of the United Kingdom.

===Context===

In R v Graham-Kerr, the defendant had taken (naked) photographs of a male child during a naturists-only event at a swimming pool. The Police interviewed the defendant about his intentions in taking the photographs, and he admitted that he received "'sexual gratification by taking or looking at such photographs". The Judge stated that the jury were entitled to take into account the circumstances, motives, and sexual intentions of the take.

At the appeal against conviction, the Judge ruled that "''the circumstances and the motivation of the taker may be relevant to the mens rea of the take as to whether his taking was intentional or accidental and so on, but it is not relevant to whether or not the photograph is in itself indecent''". The conviction was quashed. [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/grahamKerr.html]

In ''R v Mould'' (2000), the Appeal Court ruled that "Mr Burton [representing Mr Mould] was rightly concerned that the jury, in deciding whether or not the photograph was indecent, would wrongly take into account [data showing access to paedophile discussion forums]." Although it was agreed that the jury should not use such information to make a judgment regarding the decency of the image for which Mr Mould was convicted, it was understood that "the prosecution [successfully] sought to rely on it in order to prove that the appellant had deliberately created the .bmp file." [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/mould2000.html]

While a defendant's proven sexual attraction to children should not affect indecency, it may affect the perceived ''mens rea'' of an act.

==Criminal offences==

Under the (amended) Protection of Children Act, it is an offence for a person:

:* to take, or permit to be taken, or to make any indecent photograph of a child . . .; or
:* to distribute or show such indecent photographs; or
:* to have in his possession such indecent photographs [outdated text removed]; or
:* to publish or cause to be published any advertisement likely to be understood as conveying that the advertiser distributes or shows such indecent photographs, or intends to do so. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&ActiveTextDocId=1502059]

Under the Sexual Offences Act (2003), it is an offence to cause, control, arrange or facilitate a child's involvement in pornography. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820967][http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820968][http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820969]

It is an offence to "attempt to incite" any criminal offence in the United Kingdom.

===The "making" offence===

Causing an indecent photograph of a child to exist on a computer screen is considered to be "making an indecent photograph of a child".

"A person who either downloads images on to disc or who prints them off is making them. The Act is not only concerned with the original creation of images, but also their proliferation. Photographs or pseudo-photographs found on the Internet may have originated from outside the United Kingdom; to download or print within the jurisdiction is to create new material which hitherto may not have existed therein." (R v Bowden) [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/bowden1999.html]

===Offences committed abroad===

(1) If—

::(a) a United Kingdom national does an act in a country outside the United Kingdom, and

::(b) the act, if done in England and Wales or Northern Ireland, would constitute a sexual offence to which this section applies,

the United Kingdom national is guilty in that part of the United Kingdom of that sexual offence.

(2) If—

::(a) a United Kingdom resident does an act in a country outside the United Kingdom,

::(b) the act constitutes an offence under the law in force in that country, and

::(c) the act, if done in England and Wales or Northern Ireland, would constitute a sexual offence to which this section applies,

the United Kingdom resident is guilty in that part of the United Kingdom of that sexual offence. [http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldbills/041/08041.50-56.html#jNC35]

This means that a United Kingdom national may be prosecuted under the Protection of Children Act (as amended by the Sexual Offences Act) if he engages in activity contrary to the Protection of Children Act while in a foreign territory. A United Kingdom resident who engages in an act contrary to the Protection of Children Act while outside of the United Kingdom may be prosecuted if the act also constituted an offence in the foreign jurisdiction.

==Defences==

There are a small number of defences against charges under the Protection of Children Act. Below is a list of defences set by the statutes, precedents and case law.

===Marriage and other relationships===

In cases where a defendant has taken or made a photographic image of a child over the age of 16, the defendant is not guilty if, at the time when he obtained the photograph, he and the child:

:: (a) were married; or

:: (b) lived together as partners in an enduring family relationship; and

:: (c) the defendant reasonably believed that the child consented to the image being obtained. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820963]

This exemption was introduced in 2003 under the Sexual Offences Act, which had changed the statutory definition of "child" (in the Protection of Children Act) from 16 to 18.

===Mens Rea===

The Criminal Justice Act provides that:

"Where a person is charged with an offence of possession, it shall be a defence for him to prove –

:: (a) that he had a legitimate reason for having the photograph or pseudo-photograph in his possession; or

:: (b) that he had not himself seen the photograph or pseudo- photograph and did not know nor had any cause to suspect, it to be indecent; or

:: (c) that the photograph or pseudo-photograph was sent to him without any prior request made by him or on his behalf and that he did not keep it for any unreasonable time." [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=2116646&ActiveTextDocId=2116851]

The same defences may be applied to the other offences under Section 1 of the Protection of Children Act.

It is also a defence for the defendant to prove that he did not take, make, distribute, show or possess an image which the knowledge that the image was, or was likely to be:

::* an indecent image; and
::* an image of a child.

This was upheld in R v Smith & Jayson, when the judge ruled that, "the mens rea necessary to constitute the offence [of making an indecent pseudo-photograph of a child] is that the act of making should be a deliberate and intentional act with knowledge that the image made is, or is likely to be, an indecent image of a child" ''(R v Smith & Jayson, 2003)''. [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/smithJayson2003.html]

A defendant must be proven (beyond reasonable doubt) to be aware that a cache of images exists, in order to be convicted for the possession offence. It should be noted that, in such cases, the defendant will still be convicted of the making offence, unless another defence applies.

===Collages===

Lord Justice Simon Brown ruled that "an image made by an exhibit which obviously consists, as this one does, of parts of two different photographs sellotaped together cannot be said to appear to be "a photograph" [http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2000/302.html]. This means that, if a collage does not appear to be parts of a single photograph, it does not fall within the scope of the Protection of Children Act. A photocopy or scan of a collage may fall under the Act and could therefore be illegal if it shows a child and is judged to be indecent.

===Law enforcement===

It is a defence for the defendant to prove that images were made "for the purposes of the prevention, detection or investigation of crime, or for the purposes of criminal proceedings"

===Human Rights Act===

The [http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/19980042.htm Human Rights Act] offers two potential defences against possession and "making" charges under the ''Protection of Children Act'', however the following Articles have ''not'' been tested in court in relation to such charges.

Section 3 of the Act dictates that:

:"(1) So far as it is possible to do so, primary legislation and subordinate legislation must be read and given effect in a way which is compatible with the Convention rights.

::::(2) This section—

::::::(a) applies to primary legislation and subordinate legislation whenever enacted;

::::::(b) does not affect the validity, continuing operation or enforcement of any incompatible primary legislation; and

::::::(c) does not affect the validity, continuing operation or enforcement of any incompatible subordinate legislation if disregarding any possibility of revocation) primary legislation prevents removal of the incompatibility."

The relevant convention articles are ''Article 13'' and ''Article 14''.

'''Article 13:'''

:"(4) The court must have particular regard to the importance of the Convention right to freedom of expression and, where the proceedings relate to material which the respondent claims, or which appears to the court, to be journalistic, literary or artistic material (or to conduct connected with such material), to—

::::(a) the extent to which—
::::::(i) the material has, or is about to, become available to the public; or
::::::(ii) it is, or would be, in the public interest for the material to be published"

It is well known that nude images of children have been used, controversially, in artistic exhibitions, which implies that some people see an artistic element in nude images of children. Cases involving art galleries have never resulted in prosecution, but cases involving the downloading of questionable material from the internet do lead to prosecution. A defendant may argue that images which are on the public internet (world wide web) could be defined as having "become available to the public." Indeed, the judge of the case of ''Knuller v. DPP'' stated that "in public" [..] has a wide meaning." It appears to "cover exhibitions in all places to which the public have access either as of right or gratis or on payment."

'''Article 14:'''

"The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status."

==Sentencing==

The sentencing guidelines for offences committed contrary to the Protection of Children Act were decided by the Sentencing Advisory Panel, to assist with sentencing during ''R v Oliver et al''

The levels of indecency are as follows:

{| border="1"
| Level
| Definition
|-
| Level 1
| Images depicting erotic posing with no sexual activity
|-
| Level 2
| Non-penetrative sexual activity between children, or solo masturbation by a child
|-
| Level 3
| Non-penetrative sexual activity between adults and children
|-
| Level 4
| Penetrative sexual activity involving a child or children, or both children and adults
|-
| Level 5
| Sadism or penetration of, or by, an animal
|}

Judges use the following guidelines when sentencing someone who has been convicted under the Protection of Children Act:
 

{| border="1"
| Starting points
| Type/nature of activity
| Sentencing ranges
|-
| Community order
| Possession of a large amount of level 1 material and/or no more than a small amount of level 2, and the material is for personal use and has not been distributed or shown to others
| An appropriate non-custodial sentence
|-
| 12 weeks custody
| Offender in possession of a large amount of material at level 2 or a small amount at level 3

Offender has shown or distributed material at level 1 or 2 on a limited scale

Offender has exchanged images at level 1 or 2 with other collectors, but with no element of financial gain
| 4 weeks-26 weeks custody
|-
| 26 weeks custody
| Possession of a large quantity of level 3 material for personal use

Possession of a small number of images at level 4 or 5

Large number of level 2 images shown or distributed

Small number of level 3 images shown or distributed
| 4 weeks–18 months custody
|-
| 12 months custody
| Possession of a large quantity of level 4 or 5 material for personal use only

Large number of level 3 images shown or distributed
| 26 weeks-2 years custody

|-
| 2 years custody
| Offender involved in the production of, or has traded in, material at levels 1–3
| 1-4 years custody
|-
| 3 years custody
| Level 4 or 5 images shown or distributed
| 2-5 years custody
|-
| 6 years custody
| Offender commissioned or encouraged the production of level 4 or 5 images

Offender involved in the production of level 4 or 5 images

| 4-9 years custody

|}[http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/82083-COI-SCG_final.pdf]

Images which are below the threshhold for Level 1 - but which are judged to be indecent by a jury - will be treated as Level 1 images during sentencing; therefore a naturist image with no erotic posing will be treated as a Level 1 indecent image of a child, if judged to be indecent.

A person who is convicted of an offence under the Protection of Children Act is also likely to be banned from working with children in the United Kingdom, and ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register.

==Important Notes==

*Any image may technically be indecent under UK law.
*Even if an image has been declared as decent by one jury, it may be still be declared indecent by another jury.
*Despite precedents stating that the context of an image does not affect indecency, a jury may be more likely to rule that an image is indecent if they believe that the defendant is attracted to children.
*Previous interpretations of the indecency suggest that "indecency" has a lower threshhold than "pornography", so what is "indecent" (and therefore illegal) is not necessarily "pornographic".

==See also==

* [[Child pornography]]
* [[Child Pornography Laws]]
* [[Criminal Justice and Immigration Act]]
* [[Legal Information]]
* [[Sexual Offences Act (2003)]]

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Indecent_images_of_children "Indecent images of children"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Indecent images of children

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<div style="margin-left: 25px; float: right;">__TOC__</div>An '''indecent image''' of a child is a photograph or pseudo-photograph (including one comprised in a film) which shows a child and is indecent. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&ActiveTextDocId=1502059]

==Definition of a photograph==

In R v Fellows & Arnold (1994), the appealant contended that an image stored electronically could not constitute an indecent photograph of a child under section 7 of the Protection of Children Act.

It was ruled that an electronically stored image was a "copy of an indecent photograph of a child". The court stated that "there is no restriction on the nature of a copy, [and a copy of a photograph is data which] represents the original photograph, in another form". It was also stated that "there is nothing in the Act which makes it necessary that [a] copy should itself be a photograph within the dictionary or the statutory definition, and if there was, it would make the inclusion of the reference to a copy unnecessary. So we conclude that there is no restriction on the nature of a copy [..]" [http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/1996/825.html]

According to section 7 of the Protection of Children Act, references to a photograph are "the negative as well as the positive version; and data stored on a computer disc or by other electronic means which is capable of conversion into a photograph." [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&activetextdocid=1502066]

So, an image stored electronically is a copy of a photograph and is illegal if it is indecent and shows a child.

==Definition of a pseudo-photograph==

A pseudo-photograph is an image which has the appearance of a photograph, but which is not a photograph. A pseudo-photograph of a child does not necessarily show a real child.

==Defintion of a child==

A child was originally defined as a person under the age of 16, however the [[Sexual Offences Act (2003)]] raised the defintion of "child" to a person under the age of 18.

==Indecency==

The decency of an image is an objective test; that is, it is decided by the jury. Indecency is considered to be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_of_fact question of fact].

===Interpretation===

In order to judge whether an image is indecent, the jury must "apply[..] the recognised standards of propriety." (''R v Graham-Kerr'', 1988) [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/grahamKerr.html].

In 2003, the Sentencing Advisory Panel provided guidance for Judges considering sentences for people convicted of an offence under the Protection of Children Act. The lowest level of indecency was described as "images depicting erotic posing with no sexual activity", which would suggest that naturist images without posing are not indecent. Despite this, a number of people have been convicted of an offence for making and possessing naturist images. In 2003, Tom O'Carroll was convicted of "evading the prohibition on the importation of indecent material", for importing photographs of "young naked child[ren] engaging in normal outdoor activity such as playing on a beach". One should never assume that an image must be pornographic for it to be indecent.

Put simply, a photograph or pseudo-photograph is judged to be indecent if the jury believes that it would offend the majority of the population of the United Kingdom.

===Context===

In R v Graham-Kerr, the defendant had taken (naked) photographs of a male child during a naturists-only event at a swimming pool. The Police interviewed the defendant about his intentions in taking the photographs, and he admitted that he received "'sexual gratification by taking or looking at such photographs". The Judge stated that the jury were entitled to take into account the circumstances, motives, and sexual intentions of the take.

At the appeal against conviction, the Judge ruled that "''the circumstances and the motivation of the taker may be relevant to the mens rea of the take as to whether his taking was intentional or accidental and so on, but it is not relevant to whether or not the photograph is in itself indecent''". The conviction was quashed. [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/grahamKerr.html]

In ''R v Mould'' (2000), the Appeal Court ruled that "Mr Burton [representing Mr Mould] was rightly concerned that the jury, in deciding whether or not the photograph was indecent, would wrongly take into account [data showing access to paedophile discussion forums]." Although it was agreed that the jury should not use such information to make a judgment regarding the decency of the image for which Mr Mould was convicted, it was understood that "the prosecution [successfully] sought to rely on it in order to prove that the appellant had deliberately created the .bmp file." [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/mould2000.html]

While a defendant's proven sexual attraction to children should not affect indecency, it may affect the perceived ''mens rea'' of an act.

==Criminal offences==

Under the (amended) Protection of Children Act, it is an offence for a person:

:* to take, or permit to be taken, or to make any indecent photograph of a child . . .; or
:* to distribute or show such indecent photographs; or
:* to have in his possession such indecent photographs [outdated text removed]; or
:* to publish or cause to be published any advertisement likely to be understood as conveying that the advertiser distributes or shows such indecent photographs, or intends to do so. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&ActiveTextDocId=1502059]

Under the Sexual Offences Act (2003), it is an offence to cause, control, arrange or facilitate a child's involvement in pornography. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820967][http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820968][http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820969]

It is an offence to "attempt to incite" any criminal offence in the United Kingdom.

===The "making" offence===

Causing an indecent photograph of a child to exist on a computer screen is considered to be "making an indecent photograph of a child".

"A person who either downloads images on to disc or who prints them off is making them. The Act is not only concerned with the original creation of images, but also their proliferation. Photographs or pseudo-photographs found on the Internet may have originated from outside the United Kingdom; to download or print within the jurisdiction is to create new material which hitherto may not have existed therein." (R v Bowden) [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/bowden1999.html]

===Offences committed abroad===

(1) If—

::(a) a United Kingdom national does an act in a country outside the United Kingdom, and

::(b) the act, if done in England and Wales or Northern Ireland, would constitute a sexual offence to which this section applies,

the United Kingdom national is guilty in that part of the United Kingdom of that sexual offence.

(2) If—

::(a) a United Kingdom resident does an act in a country outside the United Kingdom,

::(b) the act constitutes an offence under the law in force in that country, and

::(c) the act, if done in England and Wales or Northern Ireland, would constitute a sexual offence to which this section applies,

the United Kingdom resident is guilty in that part of the United Kingdom of that sexual offence. [http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldbills/041/08041.50-56.html#jNC35]

This means that a United Kingdom national may be prosecuted under the Protection of Children Act (as amended by the Sexual Offences Act) if he engages in activity contrary to the Protection of Children Act while in a foreign territory. A United Kingdom resident who engages in an act contrary to the Protection of Children Act while outside of the United Kingdom may be prosecuted if the act also constituted an offence in the foreign jurisdiction.

==Defences==

There are a small number of defences against charges under the Protection of Children Act. Below is a list of defences set by the statutes, precedents and case law.

===Marriage and other relationships===

In cases where a defendant has taken or made a photographic image of a child over the age of 16, the defendant is not guilty if, at the time when he obtained the photograph, he and the child:

:: (a) were married; or

:: (b) lived together as partners in an enduring family relationship; and

:: (c) the defendant reasonably believed that the child consented to the image being obtained. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=820904&activetextdocid=820963]

This exemption was introduced in 2003 under the Sexual Offences Act, which had changed the statutory definition of "child" (in the Protection of Children Act) from 16 to 18.

===Mens Rea===

The Criminal Justice Act provides that:

"Where a person is charged with an offence of possession, it shall be a defence for him to prove –

:: (a) that he had a legitimate reason for having the photograph or pseudo-photograph in his possession; or

:: (b) that he had not himself seen the photograph or pseudo- photograph and did not know nor had any cause to suspect, it to be indecent; or

:: (c) that the photograph or pseudo-photograph was sent to him without any prior request made by him or on his behalf and that he did not keep it for any unreasonable time." [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=2116646&ActiveTextDocId=2116851]

The same defences may be applied to the other offences under Section 1 of the Protection of Children Act.

It is also a defence for the defendant to prove that he did not take, make, distribute, show or possess an image which the knowledge that the image was, or was likely to be:

::* an indecent image; and
::* an image of a child.

This was upheld in R v Smith & Jayson, when the judge ruled that, "the mens rea necessary to constitute the offence [of making an indecent pseudo-photograph of a child] is that the act of making should be a deliberate and intentional act with knowledge that the image made is, or is likely to be, an indecent image of a child" ''(R v Smith & Jayson, 2003)''. [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/reference/smithJayson2003.html]

A defendant must be proven (beyond reasonable doubt) to be aware that a cache of images exists, in order to be convicted for the possession offence. It should be noted that, in such cases, the defendant will still be convicted of the making offence, unless another defence applies.

===Collages===

Lord Justice Simon Brown ruled that "an image made by an exhibit which obviously consists, as this one does, of parts of two different photographs sellotaped together cannot be said to appear to be "a photograph" [http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2000/302.html]. This means that, if a collage does not appear to be parts of a single photograph, it does not fall within the scope of the Protection of Children Act. A photocopy or scan of a collage may fall under the Act and could therefore be illegal if it shows a child and is judged to be indecent.

===Law enforcement===

It is a defence for the defendant to prove that images were made "for the purposes of the prevention, detection or investigation of crime, or for the purposes of criminal proceedings"

===Human Rights Act===

The [http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/19980042.htm Human Rights Act] offers two potential defences against possession and "making" charges under the ''Protection of Children Act'', however the following Articles have ''not'' been tested in court in relation to such charges.

Section 3 of the Act dictates that:

:"(1) So far as it is possible to do so, primary legislation and subordinate legislation must be read and given effect in a way which is compatible with the Convention rights.

::::(2) This section—

::::::(a) applies to primary legislation and subordinate legislation whenever enacted;

::::::(b) does not affect the validity, continuing operation or enforcement of any incompatible primary legislation; and

::::::(c) does not affect the validity, continuing operation or enforcement of any incompatible subordinate legislation if disregarding any possibility of revocation) primary legislation prevents removal of the incompatibility."

The relevant convention articles are ''Article 13'' and ''Article 14''.

'''Article 13:'''

:"(4) The court must have particular regard to the importance of the Convention right to freedom of expression and, where the proceedings relate to material which the respondent claims, or which appears to the court, to be journalistic, literary or artistic material (or to conduct connected with such material), to—

::::(a) the extent to which—
::::::(i) the material has, or is about to, become available to the public; or
::::::(ii) it is, or would be, in the public interest for the material to be published"

It is well known that nude images of children have been used, controversially, in artistic exhibitions, which implies that some people see an artistic element in nude images of children. Cases involving art galleries have never resulted in prosecution, but cases involving the downloading of questionable material from the internet do lead to prosecution. A defendant may argue that images which are on the public internet (world wide web) could be defined as having "become available to the public." Indeed, the judge of the case of ''Knuller v. DPP'' stated that "in public" [..] has a wide meaning." It appears to "cover exhibitions in all places to which the public have access either as of right or gratis or on payment."

'''Article 14:'''

"The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status."

==Sentencing==

The sentencing guidelines for offences committed contrary to the Protection of Children Act were decided by the Sentencing Advisory Panel, to assist with sentencing during ''R v Oliver et al''

The levels of indecency are as follows:

{| border="1"
| Level
| Definition
|-
| Level 1
| Images depicting erotic posing with no sexual activity
|-
| Level 2
| Non-penetrative sexual activity between children, or solo masturbation by a child
|-
| Level 3
| Non-penetrative sexual activity between adults and children
|-
| Level 4
| Penetrative sexual activity involving a child or children, or both children and adults
|-
| Level 5
| Sadism or penetration of, or by, an animal
|}

Judges use the following guidelines when sentencing someone who has been convicted under the Protection of Children Act:
 

{| border="1"
| Starting points
| Type/nature of activity
| Sentencing ranges
|-
| Community order
| Possession of a large amount of level 1 material and/or no more than a small amount of level 2, and the material is for personal use and has not been distributed or shown to others
| An appropriate non-custodial sentence
|-
| 12 weeks custody
| Offender in possession of a large amount of material at level 2 or a small amount at level 3

Offender has shown or distributed material at level 1 or 2 on a limited scale

Offender has exchanged images at level 1 or 2 with other collectors, but with no element of financial gain
| 4 weeks-26 weeks custody
|-
| 26 weeks custody
| Possession of a large quantity of level 3 material for personal use

Possession of a small number of images at level 4 or 5

Large number of level 2 images shown or distributed

Small number of level 3 images shown or distributed
| 4 weeks–18 months custody
|-
| 12 months custody
| Possession of a large quantity of level 4 or 5 material for personal use only

Large number of level 3 images shown or distributed
| 26 weeks-2 years custody

|-
| 2 years custody
| Offender involved in the production of, or has traded in, material at levels 1–3
| 1-4 years custody
|-
| 3 years custody
| Level 4 or 5 images shown or distributed
| 2-5 years custody
|-
| 6 years custody
| Offender commissioned or encouraged the production of level 4 or 5 images

Offender involved in the production of level 4 or 5 images

| 4-9 years custody

|}[http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/82083-COI-SCG_final.pdf]

Images which are below the threshhold for Level 1 - but which are judged to be indecent by a jury - will be treated as Level 1 images during sentencing; therefore a naturist image with no erotic posing will be treated as a Level 1 indecent image of a child, if judged to be indecent.

A person who is convicted of an offence under the Protection of Children Act is also likely to be banned from working with children in the United Kingdom, and ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register.

==Important Notes==

*Any image may technically be indecent under UK law.
*Even if an image has been declared as decent by one jury, it may be still be declared indecent by another jury.
*Despite precedents stating that the context of an image does not affect indecency, a jury may be more likely to rule that an image is indecent if they believe that the defendant is attracted to children.
*Previous interpretations of the indecency suggest that "indecency" has a lower threshhold than "pornography", so what is "indecent" (and therefore illegal) is not necessarily "pornographic".

==See also==

* [[Child Pornography]]
* [[Child Pornography Laws]]
* [[Criminal Justice and Immigration Act]]
* [[Legal Information]]
* [[Sexual Offences Act (2003)]]

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Indecent_images_of_children "Indecent images of children"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Child Pornography Laws

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:''For research, see [[Research: Child Pornography]]''

'''Child pornography''' refers to pornographic or "indecent" depictions of children.

==Definition==

The exact definition of "child pornography" is the subject of much debate, particularly in courts. The legal definition varies across jurisdictions, however most countries prohibit photographs depicting minors engaged in sexual activity. Many jurisdictions, notably [[Canada]], also prohibit non-photographic pornographic media featuring children, including computer-generated images, texts, and even audio recordings. In many countries, including the [[United Kingdom]] and [[Australia]], nudist depictions of children are generally prohibited.

==Australia==

===Australian Capital Territory (ACT)===

In the Australian Capital Territory, Australia, it is an offence to produce, publish, offer, sell, or possess child pornography. Child pornography is defined as "anything that represents":

::(a) the sexual parts of a child; or
::(b) a child engaged in an activity of a sexual nature; or
::(c) someone else engaged in an activity of a sexual nature in the presence of a child;
substantially for the sexual arousal or sexual gratification of someone other
than the child.

A representation includes a "film, photograph, drawing, audiotape, videotape, computer game, the internet or anything else."

It is also illegal to - using electronic means - "suggest to a young person that the young person commit or take part in, or watch someone else committing or taking part in, an act of a sexual nature." An "act of a sexual nature" is defined as "sexual intercourse or an act of indecency."
===Queensland===

In Queensland, Australia, it is illegal to produce, sell, distribute, advertise or possess a "child abuse" photograph, publication or film. It is also illegal to produce, publish, make, or print a "prohibited publication".

A person must also not have possession of - or make - an "objectionable film" for the purpose of sale.

===Tasmania===

''Unknown''.

===Victoria===

In Victoria, Australia, it is illegal to possess an item which "depict[s] a person who is or appears to be under [16] years of age engaged in sexual activity or in an indecent context or manner". Defences against such charges include:

::1) item was classified; or
::2) item was for medical/legal/scientific/educational purposes; or
::3) item had artistic merit - this defence is unavailable if the child was actually under sixteen (16) years; or
::4) defendant believed on reasonable grounds that the child was sixteen (16) years or over, or was the defendant's spouse; or
::5) defendant was not more than 2 years older than the child was or appeared to be at the time of offence; or
::6) child depicted was the defendant.

It is also illegal to produce, sell, exhibit, deliver, or possess "indecent or offensive material in which a child (whether engaged in sexual activity or not) is depicted or described in a way that is likely to cause serious and general offence amongst reasonable adult members of the community". The definition of "material" includes:

::a. any written or printed material; or
::b. any picture, painting or drawing; or
::c. any carving sculpture, statue of figure; or
::d. any photograph, film, video tape or other object from which an image may be reproduced; or
::e. any computer data or the computer record or system containing the data; or
::f. any other material or object on which an image or representation is recorded or from which an image or representation may be reproduced.

Procuring or inviting a minor to be involved in the production of child pornography is also an offence.

===Western Australia===

(1) A person who —

::(a) with intent to sell or supply the child pornography or the copy to another, possesses or copies child pornography; or

::(b) sells or supplies, or offers to sell or supply, to another, child pornography,

is guilty of a crime, and is liable to imprisonment for 7 years.

(2) A person who publishes —

::(a) anything likely to be understood as conveying that the person publishes or supplies child pornography; or

::(b) an advertisement for child pornography,

is guilty of a crime, and is liable to imprisonment for 5 years.

(3) A person who displays, exhibits or demonstrates child pornography is guilty of a crime, and is liable to imprisonment for 5 years.

(4) A person who possesses or copies child pornography is guilty of a crime, and is liable to imprisonment for 5 years.

"Child pornography" is defined as "an article that describes or depicts, in a manner that is likely to cause offence to a reasonable adult, a person who is, or who looks like, a child under 16 years of age (whether the person is engaged in sexual activity or not)".

==Canada==

In Canada, it is illegal to make, print, publish, distribute, sell, import, or possess any material which - for a sexual purpose - depicts a child under the age of 18. Material which has an "artistic, educational, scientific or medical purpose" is not prohibited; [[Robin Sharpe]] successfully used this defence in relation to "pornographic" texts depicting children.

The definition of "material" is not limited to specific media, meaning that audio recordings, texts and cartoons are illegal if they depict a child for a sexual purpose.

==United Kingdom==

''See [[Indecent images of children]]''.

In the United Kingdom, it is illegal to take, make, distribute, show, or possess indecent images of children. An indecent image of a child is a photograph or pseudo-photograph (including one comprised in a film) which shows a child and is indecent. [http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?parentActiveTextDocId=1502057&ActiveTextDocId=1502059]

==Other jurisdictions (as of 2008)==

[[Child Pornography (Wikipedia)]] was archived in '''2008''', due to its deletion.

==See also==

* [[Child Pornography]]
* [[Indecent images of children]]
* [[Legal Information]]

==Resources==

*[http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/ Indecent Acts]
*[[Child Pornography (Wikipedia)]]

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Child_Pornography_Laws "Child Pornography Laws"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Sexualization

2009-08-07T06:35:23Z

ImaginaryBoy:

'''Sexualisation''' or '''child sexualisation''' is a modern term used to describe the loss of [[Childhood sexual innocence|"sexual innocence"]] or rendering "impure" of something or someone, especially a [[child]]. "Sexualisation" can be used as a virtually unchallengeable weasel word, obscuring the contested claim that children are asexual.

Feminists [[R. Danielle Egan]] and [[Gail Hawkes]] have deconstructed the concept of child sexualization in several papers.<ref name="corp">Egan, R. Danielle, and Hawkes, Gail (2008). "Girls, sexuality and the strange carnalities of advertisements: Deconstructing the discourse of corporate paedophilia," ''Australian Feminist Studies'', 23(57), 307–322.</ref><ref>Hawkes, Gail, and Egan, R. Danielle (2008). "Landscapes of Erotophobia: The Sexual(ized) Child in the Postmodern Anglophone West," ''Sexuality & Culture'', 12(4), 193-203.</ref><ref>Egan, R. Danielle, and Hawkes, Gail (2008). "Endangered Girls and Incendiary Objects: Unpacking the Discourse on Sexualization," ''Sexuality & Culture'', 12(4), 291-311</ref> They point out that the "sexualization" of girls has been most problematized, while boys have recieved little attention. The "construction of girls in the discourse of sexualisation mirrors earlier patriarchal discourses on the pathological nature of women's sexuality, its susceptibility to corruption and its resistance to autonomous control."<ref name="corp" />

==Commentary==

:''"The really dangerous term is sexualized/sexualization. Implicit in its use is the idea that children are asexual until some bad man sexualizes them. Since the idea is implicit, people can make the claim without needing to back it up. If someone stated in so many words that "children are asexual", they could be challenged, and a useful discussion might follow. Using a term like "sexualization" is the way the hysterics make sure that that discussion never happens."''
[http://www.boychat.org/messages/1153381.htm BC Post 1153381]

==References==
<references />

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Sexualisation "Sexualisation"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Sexualization

2009-08-07T06:32:36Z

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Sex play

2009-08-07T06:26:54Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''Sex play''' is a popular and research term used to describe sexual interactions in childhood that do not involve adults or borrow directly from child-adult experiences. The term is ...

'''Sex play''' is a popular and research term used to describe sexual interactions in [[childhood]] that do not involve adults or borrow directly from child-adult experiences. The term is often used in conjunction with "[[childhood sexuality]]" to portray sexual experiences between youth as "[[age appropriate]]", innocent and experimental, although despite taboos, this is not necessarily the case (see Research).

==See also==

*[[Research: Sexual behaviour among youth]]
*[[Research: Sexual repression]]

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Sex_play "Sex play] (Original Newgon Wiki Articles)

[[Category:Encyclopedia]]

Criminalization of youth

2009-08-07T06:23:39Z

ImaginaryBoy:

:''Unaffiliated site: [http://www.ethicaltreatment.org/ ETAY]''

Society both '''[[infantilisation|infantilises]]''' and '''criminalises''' minors, making them easy prey for the criminal system. Youthful relationships involving small age differences are often persecuted - leading to a lifelong criminal record, or worse - if the country has a sex-offender's register. Many of these crimes relate to [[child pornography]], and our [[Research: Child Pornography|article]] on research into that subject quotes some examples of child producers.

==Examples==
:''"They were neighbors, aged 13 and 10, who played together in a toy fort at the older boy's home. But one summer afternoon, the teen began talking about masturbation, then performed oral sex on the younger boy. He said they should do it again the next day. And they did [...] Since 1997, more than 3,500 children in the state -- some as young as 10, though on average about 14 -- have been charged and convicted as felony sex offenders, a mark that remains on their records forever, barring them from careers in medicine, teaching or a host of other professions that serve the vulnerable. It also frightens many into under-the-radar housing arrangements to avoid landlords who require background checks [...] Now a student at the University of Washington, Tyler has a girlfriend and tries to live as normally as possible. But the childhood record has scuttled his hopes of becoming a doctor and, by alienating him from peers who might ask too many questions, paralyzed much of his social development."''
[http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/368007_youthoffenders23.html?source=rss Juvenile sex offenders marked for life (2008)]

:''"Each [16 and 17] was charged with producing, directing or promoting a photograph featuring the sexual conduct of a child. Based on the contents of his e-mail account, Jeremy was charged with an extra count of possession of child pornography." [...] Cmt: "It's a strange anomaly. They're charged for making child pornography and tried as adults. However, the law calls the pictures they produced child pornography, so they should be trying them as minors. Anything less than this is hypocrisy."''
[http://www.boingboing.net/2007/02/20/teen-couple-who-phot.html Teen couple who photo'd own sex acts prosecuted for child porn (2007)]

:''"Providence, RI -- Two teenage girls face child pornography charges after posting sexually explicit photographs of themselves on the Internet. The pornographic pictures of Elizabeth Muller, 19, of North Smithfield, and an unidentified 16-year-old Lincoln girl were discovered on MySpace.com, a social networking Web site, said a spokesman for the attorney general's office."''
[http://www.digtriad.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=60478 Two Teen Girls Face Child Porn Charges ... For Their Own Pictures (2006)]

:''"NEWARK, Ohio - Police in Newark, Ohio, have arrested a 15-year-old girl on juvenile child pornography charges for allegedly sending nude cell phone photos of herself to classmates. The girl was arrested Friday and held over the weekend. Her defense filed denials in court Monday."''
[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27088910/ Teen charged for sending nude phone photos (2008)][http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7219]

:''"Three teenage girls who allegedly sent nude or semi-nude cell phone pictures of themselves, and three male classmates in a Greensburg Salem High School who received them, are charged with child pornography. Police said the girls are 14 or 15, and the boys charged with receiving the photos are 16 or 17. [...] "It was a self portrait taken of a juvenile female taking pictures of her body, nude," said Capt. George Seranko of the Greensburg Police Department. Police said school officials learned of the photos in October. That's when a student was seen using a cell phone during school hours, which violates school rules. The phone was seized, and the photos were found on it, police said. When police investigated, other phones with more pictures were seized. "Taking nude pictures of yourself, nothing good can come out of it," said Seranko."''
[http://www.wpxi.com/news/18469160/detail.html High Schoolers Accused Of Sending Naked Pictures To Each Other (2009)]

:''"For example, some state child welfare systems have promulgated special tracking systems for registering, segregating, and handling children identified as having SBP [sexual behaviour problems]. Children with SBP may be segregated within facilities and limited to specialized SBP units. Because preadolescent children as young as 9 years old or occasionally younger are adjudicated as delinquent for sex crimes, some states include these children on lifetime public sex offender registries and Internet sites, and federal legislation has been proposed and passed in the U.S. House of Representatives that would mandate including all adjudicated children with SBP on lifetime public Internet sex offender registries ([[Children's Safety Act]], 2005)."''
Carpentier, M., Silovsky, J. and Chaffin, J. (2006). "[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16822105 Randomized trial of treatment for children with sexual behavior problems: Ten-year follow-up]," ''Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychology'', 74 , pp. 482-488.

==See also==

*[[SOR problems]] - The adding of children to public registries.

==External links==
*[http://www.nambla.org/crimyout.htm The Criminalization of Youth - NAMBLA]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Criminalisation_of_youth "Criminalisation of youth"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Criminalization of youth

2009-08-07T06:23:00Z

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Bruce Rind

2009-08-07T06:08:42Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: Formerly a psychology professor at Temple University, Philadelphia, '''Bruce Rind''', is an independent researcher in the field of intergenerational sexualities. Best known for his 1998 pa...

Formerly a psychology professor at Temple University, Philadelphia, '''Bruce Rind''', is an independent researcher in the field of intergenerational sexualities. Best known for his 1998 paper (published with [[Robert Bauserman]] and [[Philip Tromovitch]]) and the moral outrage it sparked in [[America]], Rind is unlikely to become a tenured professor.

==Topics covered==

Although capable in a range of psychological topics - notably communication and persuasion - Bruce Rind is best known for his controversial studies of intergenerational sexuality - particularly [[pederasty]] in its historical and modern contexts. In addition to this, Rind has been at the heart of numerous statistical analyses of sexology data new and old, also lecturing in the most advanced statistics courses.

[[Ipce]] hosts its own [http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/reg_r.htm selection] of Rind articles.

==[[Rind et al|1998 Meta-analysis]]==

Published by Rind in 1998, [http://www.ipce.info/library_3/rbt/metaana.htm A Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples] collated data from previous studies, concluding that:

:''"Self-reported reactions to and effects from CSA indicated that negative effects were neither pervasive nor typically intense, and that men reacted much less negatively than women. The college data were completely consistent with data from national samples. Basic beliefs about CSA in the general population were not supported."''

The study was condemned by a number of conservative Talk Radio hosts and then formally so by the [[US]] house of Congress.

==See also==

*[[The Leadership Council]]

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Bruce_Rind "Bruce Rind"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)
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David Finkelhor

2009-08-07T06:04:16Z

ImaginaryBoy: New page: '''David Finkelhor''' is an American sociologist often cited as the major proponent (and a key founder) of sexual victimology as applied to children. He holds posts as director...

'''David Finkelhor''' is an [[America]]n sociologist often cited as the major proponent (and a key founder) of sexual [[victimology]] as applied to [[children]]. He holds posts as director of the [[Crimes against Children Research Center]], Co-Director of the [[Family Research Laboratory]] and Professor of Sociology at the University of New Hampshire in the US.

Whilst Finkelhor is probably the most frequently cited research authority on what (partially due to his own advocacy) has become known as [[child sexual abuse]], his work has been criticised by other authors such as [[Bruce Rind]], for its poor sampling and use of morality to make broadsweeping statements about [[adult-child sex]].

==Career==

Finkelhor has been studying [[child abuse]], child victimization, child maltreatment and family violence since 1977. He is editor and author of 12 books and over 200 journal articles and book chapters. He has received grants from the National Institute of Mental Health, the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, and the US Department of Justice, and a variety of other sources. In 1994, he was given the Distinguished Child Abuse Professional Award by the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children. In 2004 he was given the Significant Achievement Award from the Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers. In 2005 he and his colleagues received the Child Maltreatment Article of the Year award, and in 2007 he was elected as a Fellow of the American Society of Criminology.

Finkelhor is best known for his research on child sexual abuse. He has stated that he intends to continue his research until he proves "an unambiguous and persuasive case that the problem [of child sexual abuse] is widespread."<ref>Child Sexual Abuse: New Theory and Research, p. 229</ref> According to Kenneth Plummer, he is "probably the most prominent sociologist at work in the field [of child sexual abuse]."<ref>Review of Child Sexual Abuse: New Theory and Research, in ''Contemporary Sociology'', Vol. 14, No. 6. (Nov., 1985), pp. 712-713.</ref> He holds a [[Ph.D]] in sociology.

More recently, Finkelhor addressed US Congress with a group of researchers. He agreed with the group that standard advice given to children concerning web use (not to divulge personal details) was flawed and that adult-minor sexual contacts solicited over the web rarely conform to the pathological model, and are chosen by teens themselves. Two years later, this advice had still not been adopted by professionals.

===Satanic ritual abuse===
Between 1986 and 1988, Finkelhor worked on a large study of sexual abuse in day cares in an attempt to legitimize the [[satanic ritual abuse]] panic, including the discredited [[McMartin preschool case]]. His research was funded by a grant of $173,000 from the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, and the results were published in the book ''Nursery Crimes: Sexual Abuse in Day Care''.<ref>Finkelhor, D., Williams, L. M., & Burns, N. (1988).'' Nursery Crimes: Sexual Abuse in Day Care''. Newbury Park: Sage.</ref> In an executive summary<ref>Finkelhor, D., Williams, L. M., & Burns, N., & Kalinowski, M. (1988). "Sexual abuse in day care: A national study. Study prepared under grant 90-CA-1155 from the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect." University of New Hampshire: Family Research Laboratory.</ref> of his findings, available [http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/0000019b/80/1c/82/61.pdf online], Finkelhor writes:

:"Allegations of ritualistic abuse ("the invocation of religious, magical or supernatural symbols or activities") occured in 13% of the cases. After studying the ritualistic allegations we decided that they needed to be subdivided into three categories: 1) true cult-based ritualism, where the abuse was in service to a larger spiritual or social objective, 2) psuedo-ritualism, where the goal was primarily sexual gratification, with ritual being used only to intimidate children against disclosing, and 3) psychological ritualism, where the activities were primarily the expression of an individual's obsessional or delusional system. [...] We recommend more research and professional awareness about ritualistic child abuse. We need to know more about the prevalence, dynamics and impact of this disturbing type of abuse. Moreover, we need better information on how to effectively investigate allegations. Law enforcement, child welfare and licensing officials need to be educated about the existence of such abuse so that they can recognize it and include it in their investigations." (p. 17)

In the book, Finkelhor speculates that the motivation for ritualistic abuse may be an "identification with evil" that "ties sexual abuse to ritual abuse in the mind set that may be attracted to so-called satanic practice" (p. 64).

==Criticism==

Critics have pointed to numerous flaws in Finkelhor's research papers:

*'''Exclusion of data''':
*'''Wrong conclusions''':
*'''Importation of (flawed) moral critique''': [[Bruce Rind]] argues that ''"Finkelhor (1979, 1984) many years ago already articulated the positions Schmidt is currently espousing. But the weakness of his articulation is instructive, as it points to the problem of trying to be a scientist and a moralist simultaneously. Like Schmidt, Finkelhor argued that harm is not needed to establish the immorality and unacceptability of adult-child sex. Instead, Finkelhor continued, the unacceptability is based on the child's inability to consent, because he does not know what he is getting into and he cannot say no. A critic then complained that, if it is true that children cannot make judgments about sex, how can they judge among rival claims of the various religious sects (e.g., agree with an adult to be taken to one church rather than another or none at all)?. Finkelhor responded that it is different with sex, because sex is more likely to be harmful. His argument is circular: the issue falls back to harm, even though harm is claimed to be unessential to the point."''<ref>Rind, B., (2002) "The Problem with Consensus Morality", Review in "Peer Commentaries on Green (2002) and Schmidt (2002)",
''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', Vol. 31, No. 6, December 2002, pp. 479 - 503</ref>
*'''Clinical focus''': Finkelhor's most-cited research on the effects of child sexual abuse relies on clinical/legal samples (e.g., Kendall-Tackett, Finkelhor, et al. (1993)<ref>Kendall-Tackett, K A., Williams, L. M., & Finkelhor. D. (1993). "[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/pdf/impact.pdf Impact of sexual abuse on children: A review and synthesis of recent empirical studies]," ''Psychological Bulletin'', 113, 164-180.</ref> and Finkelhor & Browne (1986)<ref>Finkelhor, D. & Browne, A. (1986). "Impact of child sexual abuse: a review of the research," ''Psychological Bulletin'', 99, 66-77.</ref>), which are not representative of the general population. Studies using college or national samples report a weak to non-existent relationship between child sexual abuse and maladjustment (see [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes]]). Bruce Rind has [http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/rind/rtbval_5.htm criticized]<ref>Rind, B., Tromovitch, P., & Bauserman, R. (2001). "The validity and appropriateness of methods, analyses, and conclusions in Rind et al. (1998): A rebuttal of victimological critique from Ondersma et al. (2001) and Dallam et al. (2001).," ''Psychological Bulletin'', 127, [http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/rind/rtbval_5.htm 748-749].</ref> this and other aspects of Kendall-Tackett, et al. (1993).

==References==
{{reflist|1}}

==External links==
*[http://www.unh.edu/ccrc Crimes against Children Research Center]
*[http://www.unh.edu/ccrc/researchers/finkelhor-david.html David Finkelhor bio & curriculum vitae]
*[http://www.unh.edu/frl Family Research Laboratory]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok05pxbYLJI Finkelhor addresses Congress]
*[http://newgon.com/blog/?p=64 Finkelhor's Flaws] - Criticism from Newgon.com's [[Stephen James]].
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/David_Finkelhor "David Finkelhor"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Child

2009-08-07T05:47:13Z

ImaginaryBoy:

A '''child''' may be defined as someone who is either below the [[age of majority]]/[[age of consent]] (minor) or a [[prepubescent]]. Familial usage (regardless of age) is not an issue of relevance to intergenerational sex.

'''Childhood''' and by extension, the status of human beings as children is an unstable concept. It has been suggested by some historians such as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Aries Aries] that the concept of childhood is itself an invention of the second millennium.

==[[Childhood innocence]] and [[vulnerability]]==

Central to the issue of intergenerational sexuality is the concept of childhood (sexual) innocence and its postpuritanical/utilitarian counterpart, vulnerability.

==See also==

*[[Boy]]
*[[Girl]]
*[[Adult]]
*[[Adult-child sex]]
*[[Child sexual abuse]]
*[[Child pornography]]

==External Links==
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Child "Child"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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Child

2009-08-07T05:46:03Z

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Wikisposure

2009-08-07T05:38:13Z

ImaginaryBoy:

__NOTOC__'''Wikisposure.com''' is a [[Perverted Justice]] run attack website that lists and profiles individuals who allegedly have a [[pedophile]] sexual orientation. It appears to function as a semi-reincarnation of [[Better a Millstone]] and a place for Perverted-Justice volunteers to intimidate a wide range of web users and activists who they see as enemies.

==Inaccuracies==

Despite only being set up in 2007, the profiling project is infamous for its many inaccuracies, some comical and some more deliberate and sinister in nature. For example, it is a common practice among Wikisposure editors to locate enemies on the mere basis of their IP addresses and to reproduce speculative half-truths and potential misinformation as concrete facts. This leads to other administrators misinterpreting profiles and building upon poorly-established foundations.

On one occasion, a Wikisposure editor used [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]] as a fact reference. Another editor reproduced pictures of Canadian Prime Minister, Stephen Harper - claiming that they were in fact of [[Viamund]]. These edits continued to count for considerable lengths of time.

Other people feel that their quotes have been taken out of context and twisted to make them look "evil". Individuals have been described as "dangerous" when there exists no information to suggest that the person is even at risk of offending.

=="Pedophile" assertions==

A large number of individuals who never identified themselves as pedophiles are labeled as such on Wikisposure.

[[Corrupted Justice]] on Wikisposure:

:''"In the original perverted-justice follow-up forums, people were targeted for allegedly engaging in explicit sexual on-line chats with a perverted-justice volunteer pretending to be a sex-starved horny teenager. In this new incarnation, people are now being targeted simply based on any suggestion, accusation or assumption that they may have some sort of tenuous link to anything associated with someone accused of being a pedophile, anyone involved in speaking their opinion on the rights of registered sex offenders, anyone who voices a contrary opinion regarding current sex offender laws, or anyone the anonymous, untrained perverted-justice volunteers have determined may have pedophilic leanings as a result of an opinion voiced or something they may have written on-line."''[http://www.corrupted-justice.com/article27.html]

==False "outings"==

Wikisposure has often attempted to bolster its credibility by claiming to "out" or establish facts via "investigation" of individuals who were previously unconcerned about publicly identifying themselves in the manner concerned. Whilst this is not a source of potential defamation suits, it casts light upon another important fact about Wikisposure, i.e. that any information published there was already available for the public to access. Most "investigations" go no further than basic e.mail linking and web-searches.

==[[Wikipedia]]==

[[Xavier Von Erck]] has attempted to control discussions on [[Wikipedia]] (a site that he was banned from) by using Wikisposure to make spurious allegations of pedophilia towards editors who he dislikes. Whilst there is no way of knowing for sure, it appears that these attacks have been somewhat successful, with some editors being banned from editing.

==Arrests==

Wikisposure profiling has lead to some successful arrests and even the conviction of two men who were openly divulging information regarding their sexual [[pederasty|relationships with boys]]. In some cases, flyers developed from wikisposure pages have been distributed in local communities. It was this tactic that whilst asserting no criminal activity, appears to have lead to the police raiding of former [[BoyChat]] webmaster [[James Finn III]]'s home and his highly suspect and uncharacteristic arrest on [[child pornography]] charges. Another charge accuses two other BoyChat posters of producing child pornography among other crimes.

==[[Jan Kruska]]'s Defamation suit==

On 10 January 2008, a multi-count civil lawsuit was filed in the United States District Court for the District of Arizona by Jan Kruska, a wife and mother who has been wrongly labeled a [[pedophile]] by Wikisposure.

:''"Jan Kruska sued several anti-pedophile organizations, including Perverted Justice Foundation, Inc. ("PJFI"), and individuals affliliated with those organizations, as well as domain registrar GoDaddy.com and social networking site MySpace.com, after the organizations accused Kruska of being a predator, a pedophile, and pro-pedophile on various websites, including JanKruska.com and JanKruska.net. Kruska sued for defamation, copyright infringement, cyberstalking and harassment, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations ("RICO") Act and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") in Arizona federal court."''<ref>http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/kruska-v-perverted-justice-foundation#description</ref><ref>http://www.corrupted-justice.com/article28.html</ref>

==Incitement of crime==
[[Kevin Brown]] was physically assaulted outside his home several weeks after Wikisposure publicized his home address.<ref>Brown, Kevin (2007). "[http://annabelleigh.net/messages/402616.htm assault]," GirlChat, 22 July.</ref> "Kissbyalice," a minor, had "the shit beaten out of" him by his pastor after Wikisposure informed his church that he was a pedophile.<ref>Kissbyalice (2009). "[http://annabelleigh.net/messages/472900.htm Esctasy saved my sanity]," GirlChat, 26 June.</ref>

==Apparent demise in 2008==

As the poorly-maintained project continues to suffer from its fatally flawed design, general bloating and badly dated events among other things, editing appears to have slowed down substantially. Whilst editors are fully aware of the number of potential defamation suits lingering on their server, one wonders whether a large-scale purge of sensitive information or a full-on cessation is on the cards.

==References==

{{Reflist}}

==External Links==

The site itself (suspected to contain spyware) is located at '''wikisposure.com'''.

*[http://newgon.com/blog/?p=38 Uncommon Sense article]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_B88qBZKMY Wikisposure on TV]
*[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=O1D26_ZOk3U Arrest]
*[http://newgon.com/wiki/Wikisposure "Wikisposure"] (Original Newgon Wiki Article)

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