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APA decision (2013)

2014-01-05T20:20:05Z

Kid icarus: made minor spelling and grammar corrections

On October 31, 2013, ''the American Psychiatric Association'' and ''the American Psychological Association'' issued statements due to pressure put on them from a right wing Christian news site and a number of smaller, right-wing blogs<ref>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/pedophilia-sexual-orientation_n_4183482.html </ref>, the APA has decided to change "[[sexual orientation]]" to "sexual interest" and deny that they intended the entry in DSM-5 (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition) to read sexual orientation indicating that they don't consider it a variant of normal sexuality but rather a paraphilia which can be changed. The treatment of paraphilias and related disorders often includes: psychotherapy, self-help groups, and pharmacotherapy (including anti-androgen hormone therapy (Depo Provera) as well as the use of psychostimulants both of which are referred to as "'''chemical castration'''" .<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia#Treatments</ref> In this reversal of position on pedophilia being a sexual orientation, both APA's took the opportunity to reaffirm their commitment to continue to view [[MAP|individuals attracted to minors]] as a criminal class meriting punishment rather than treatment for their adjustment issues or depression related to sexual orientation.
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<Blockquote>"However, if they report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual orientation but not pedophilic disorder."</Blockquote>

The following are excerpts from both APA's statements:

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<center>October 31, 2013 - ''American Psychiatric Association Statement on DSM -5 Text Error Pedophilic disorder text error to be corrected''</center>

“Sexual orientation” is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its
use in the DSM -5 text discussion is an error and should read “sexual interest.” In fact, APA considers pedophilic disorder a “paraphilia,” not a “sexual orientation.” This error will be corrected in the electronic version of DSM - 5 and the next printing of the manual.

APA stands firmly behind efforts to criminally prosecute those who sexually abuse and exploit children and adolescents. We also support continued efforts to develop treatments for those with pedophilic disorder with the goal of preventing future acts of abuse."<ref>APA Statement on DSM -5 Text Error October 31, 2013 http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/13-67-DSM-Correction-103113.pdf </ref>
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<center>October 31, 2013 - ''Statement of the American Psychological Association Regarding Pedophilia and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)''</center>

"The American Psychological Association maintains that pedophilia is a mental disorder; that sex between adults and children is always wrong; and that acting on pedophilic impulses is and should be a criminal act."
<ref>Statement of the American Psychological Association Regarding Pedophilia and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) October 31, 2013 http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2013/10/pedophilia-mental.aspx</ref>
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==Reaction==
Critics of this decision point out that it was not made based on science, research, and clinical experience but on social/political pressure.<ref>https://takearisknz.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/mistakes-can-have-a-very-high-price/</ref> That scientists and researchers have been moving towards a consensus in recent years that pedophilia is indeed a sexual orientation.<ref>http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/a-plague-on-both-your-apa-houses/</ref> The mental health advocacy group "''[[B4U-ACT]]''" indicated that they see the decision and statements by both APAs as a significant barrier to treatment for all minor attracted people.

===Fight Back===
Early in November 2013 as a response to both APA's statements, a tumblr website was setup by person or persons unknown called, ''Fight Back''.<ref>Fight Back Website http://fightback385.tumblr.com/</ref> The page contained two graphic images (see below) and instructions that their viewers should help the images "go viral".

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[[Image:A message from American Psychological Association - Just do it 700x630.jpg|thumb|Grapgic 1: The American Psychological Association]]
[[Image:A message from American Psychiatric Association - Just do it 700x630.jpg|thumb|Grapgic 2: The American Psychiatric Association]]
<center>'''Text and graphics from Fight Back website'''</center>

It’s time to fight back. Help make these go viral.

Both APAs have just released press releases in response to right wing fundamentalist complaints that the new DSM 5 classifies pedophilia as a sexual orientation. The press releases ignore the mental health of people with the diagnosis and instead advocate their prosecution—an interesting approach for so-called mental health organizations. The press releases can be found at:

http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/13-67-DSM-Correction-103113.pdf

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2013/10/pedophilia-mental.aspx

Source of the stats above:

About 11,000 children are born in the U.S. every day.

Up to 3% of males are preferentially attracted to younger children, according to DSM 5.

An internet study found 85% of people attracted to children remember first having these feelings when under age 18, and 45% considered suicide (http://b4uact.org/science/survey/01.htm).
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<center>'''Easy way to fight back''' - Posted to BoyChat by Fight Back on 2013-November-13</center>

I agree that it's time to respond directly. Here's an easy and safe thing to do: Just use your anonymous email account to send the pictures I've created at http://fightback385.tumblr.com to both the American Psychiatric and Psychological Associations. You'll need to put these pictures into the body of your email rather than attach them. That way the recipient will see them right away. Also, include text in your email, in case they have images turned off. The text can just say:

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''Each day 30 to 150 American teens realize they're attracted to younger children.''

''Almost half will consider suicide.''

''APA's response: Ignore them or threaten prosecution.''

''Implied message: Just do it!''

''Source of stats:''
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About 11,000 children are born in the U.S. every day.''

''Up to 3% of males are preferentially attracted to younger children, according to DSM 5.''

''An internet study found 85% of people attracted to children remember first having these feelings when under age 18, and 45% considered suicide (http://b4uact.org/science/survey/01.htm).
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Imagine if just a few hundred BLs and GLs did this, so that suddenly the "professionals" got deluged by these images and messages from hundreds of different addresses. They'd at least take notice. Here are the addresses to send your email to. They cover the relevant public relations and public policy offices:

apa@psych.org, pracmarket@apa.org, public.affairs@apa.org, ppo@apa.org, publicinterest@apa.org

Tell everyone you know to do this. Post this message at every MAP board you can. Easy and safe. Takes just a few minutes.<ref>http://www.boychat.org/messages/1366510.htm</ref>
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==References==
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==External links==
* [http://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/a-plague-on-both-your-apa-houses/ Heretic TOC] – ''A plague on both your APA houses '' – Tom discusses the recent APA decision to give into right wing pressure and remove "Sexual Orientation" from the entry on pedophilia from the DSM-5. (UK)

*[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/apa-correct-manual-clarification-pedophilia-not-se/ APA to correct manual: Pedophilia is not a ‘sexual orientation’] – Due to pressure from right wing Christian news site and a number of smaller, right-wing blogs, the APA has decided to change "sexual orientation" to "sexual interest" and deny that they intended the entry in DSM-5 to read sexual orientation. (The Washington Times,US)

*[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/pedophilia-sexual-orientation_n_4183482.html Whopping Pedophilia 'Sexual Orientation' Error Sparks Right-Wing Freakout ] - A mainstream Christian news site and a number of smaller, right-wing blogs published stories this week alleging that the American Psychiatric Association, or APA, had classified pedophilia as a sexual orientation. ( The Huffington Post)

*[https://takearisknz.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/mistakes-can-have-a-very-high-price/ Mistakes can have a very high price.] – Peter Hooper's blog: ''"Take a Risk NZ"'' – analyses the recent APA decission

*'''[http://fightback385.tumblr.com/ Fight Back]''' – It’s time to fight back. Help make these go viral. Both APAs have just released press releases in response to right wing fundamentalist complaints that the new DSM 5 classifies pedophilia as a sexual orientation. The press releases ignore the mental health of people with the diagnosis and instead advocate their prosecution—an interesting approach for so-called mental health organizations.

*[http://www.boychat.org/messages/1366494.htm Setting the Record Straight About B4U-ACT]
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Talk:APA decision (2013)

2014-01-05T20:15:18Z

Kid icarus: New page: Minor edit (1/5/2014): "In this reversal of position on pedophilia being a sexual orientation, both APA's took the opertunity to reaffirmed ..." "reaffirmed" has been changed to "reaffir...

Minor edit (1/5/2014):

"In this reversal of position on pedophilia being a sexual orientation, both APA's took the opertunity to reaffirmed ..."

"reaffirmed" has been changed to "reaffirm" (grammar correction). ~Kid_Icarus

Ancient Greece

2012-11-25T20:19:43Z

Kid icarus: Pedophilia in Ancient Greece

Pedophilia in Ancient Greece was quite common between older men and boys, and was not unusual or frowned upon. The most common place where men would go to meet boys was the ''palaestra'' (the Greek word for their version of a gymnasium) where older men watched the young boys exercising. This being the case, only leisured aristocrats with time on their hands probably really engaged in homosexual affairs. Only when men carried on a relationship with a boy who entered adulthood was the man scorned.

== Grooming and Courtship ==

Once a man had selected a boy from the palaestra, the next step would be to take him to the ''andreion'', a sort of men's club or meeting hall. The youth received gifts, and the ''philetor'' along with the friends went away with him for two months into the countryside, where they hunted and feasted. At this end of this time, the ''philetor'' presented the youth with three contractually required gifts: military attire, an ox, and a drinking cup. Other costly gifts followed. In Crete, in order for the suitor to carry out the ritual abduction, the father had to approve him as worthy of the honor. However, according to Aeschines, Athenian fathers would pray that their sons would be handsome and attractive, with the full knowledge that they would then attract the attention of men and "be the objects of fights because of erotic passions."

Copulation with the pederast was a choice the boy could make; it was not required. Pederast/Catamite relationships were not monogamous; both boys and men were free to engage in as many of these such relationships as they chose. Typically, after their sexual relationship had ended and the young man had married, the older man and his protégé would remain on close terms throughout their life.

== Social Aspects ==

Pederasty was the idealized form of an age-structured homoeroticism that had other, less idealized manifestations, such as prostitution or the sexual use of slave boys. Paying free youths for sex was prohibited. Free youths who did sell their favors were ridiculed, and later in life might be prohibited from performing certain official functions.

Even when lawful, it was not uncommon for the relationship to fail, as it was said of many boys that they "hated no one as much as the man who had been their lover" (see, for instance, "Death of King Philip II of Macedon'"). Likewise, the Cretans required the boy to declare whether the relationship had been to his liking, thus giving him an opportunity to break it off if any violence had been done to him.[citation needed] In Classical times there appears a note of concern that the institution of pederasty might give rise to a "morbid condition", adult homosexuality, that today's eromenos may become tomorrow's kinaidos, defined as the passive or "penetrated" partner.

== Sexual Practices ==

Vase paintings and an obsession with the beloved's appealing thighs in poetry indicate that when the pederastic couple engaged in sex acts, the preferred form was intercrural. To preserve his dignity and honor, the erômenos limits the man who desires him to penetration between closed thighs.

Anal sex may be depicted, but far more rarely. The evidence is not explicit and is open to interpretation. Some vase paintings, which Percy considers a fourth type of pederastic scene in addition to Beazley's three, show the erastês seated with an erection and the erômenos either approaching or climbing into his lap. The composition of these scenes is the same as that for depictions of women mounting men who are seated and aroused for intercourse. As a cultural norm considered apart from personal preference, anal penetration was most often seen as dishonorable to the one penetrated, or shameful. Oral sex is likewise not depicted, or is indicated only indirectly; anal or oral penetration seems to have been reserved for prostitutes or slaves.

== External links ==

* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_Ancient_Greece Wikipedia]

==References==
*'''Stephen Batchelor:''' ''The Ancient Greeks for Dummies'' — John Wiley & Sons, 2008. — ISBN 978-0-470-98787-2
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BoyLover.net

2012-11-25T18:55:27Z

Kid icarus: changed 'is' to 'was' and added some information about the closure in the opening statement. Also removed 'the wayback machine' external link as it led to nowhere.

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'''BoyLover.net''', commonly abbreviated as '''BLN''' or '''bl.net''', was one of the world's largest online [[Boylove community|boylover communities]]. The site was created by [[LostBoy]] and launched on May 1, 2002. It was completely re-designed later that year and launched again on December 1, 2002. Within six months it had attained a membership of over 1200, rising to 3000 a year after the initial opening, and has long since passed the 20,000-member mark. The bulletin board closed down in 2010, after an investigation involving illegal activity of Lostboy, the board owner. At the time of it's closing it had over 70,000 members.

In July 2003 BoyLover.net spawned a companion website, [[BoyLoverLinks.net]], which catalogs and presents a diverse collection of links of interest to boylovers.

==Features==
Though its main language is English, BoyLover.net hosts a large number of [[forum|forums]] in numerous languages through a uniform interface. Languages ranging from Swedish to Hungarian are represented in designated rooms, as are special topics like creative pursuits and games. A popular forum offers publication of private photographs of boys. The youth who participate have their own discussion room, in which adults are not allowed to participate.

Discussion is served by the Ultimate Bulletin Board interface, which serves threads "flat" (i.e. without subthreads) and automatically brings recently discussed topics to the top of each index. Site design is heavily featured by large, illustrative photographs, strong use of bright colors, and a multitude of icons. Color scheme is occasionally transformed completely, in recognition of significant or tragic events, to a monochromatic theme.

Members are categorized according to their post count, with a member starting as "New Kid" and eventually becoming "Elder Brother" at 5000 posts. While this makes it simple to tell oldtimers from newbies, it often leads to members posting playfully in order to increase their post count, and hence their status.

Site management is highly organized, and a team of Buddies are responsible for welcoming and guiding new members of the community. Highly respected members may be named Mentors. To date only one member, Friend, has been named Mentor.

==Security==
BoyLover.net's rules and guidelines are intended to safeguard the site's legality according to [[United States]] law. A complex, three-tiered organization of nearly 100 volunteers serves users of the site and enforces site policy.

According to site administrators, BoyLover.net's servers were recently seized by law enforcement authorities. The implications of this event (and whether the seizure actually took place) is in dispute.

Site administrators have been criticized for taking a cavalier attitude toward security problems.
Furthermore, some portals have warned against BoyLover.net on grounds that the site allows off-site image links, making [[IP harvesting]] relatively simple. Due to this, visitors are advised to turn off images when loading BoyLover.net forums if they are worried about their surfing habits being analyzed by unknown and potentially hostile parties.

==Mission statement==
The following is taken from BoyLover.net's home page:

:BoyLover.net provides a safe, supportive, and legal environment where boylovers, boys, and others interested in boylove can share thoughts, opinions, feelings, and experiences. Its forums are online meeting places where questions, advice, and debate take place freely in an atmosphere of comfort and mutual respect, and where educational material and information about boylove can be shared.

==Webmaster arrested==
After a three year long law enforcement investigation, Boylover.net webmaster was arrested in his native Netherlands, over a hundred board members were arrested by the police worldwide for being involved in off the board activities related to child sex. According to an USAToday article (link below), after initial contact on the discussion board members would use e-mail and other electronic channels to share child pornography images and videos.

The board, which had up to 70.000 members with only a few of them allegedly taking part in illegal activities, ceased to exist in 2010.

==External links==
* [http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2011-03-16-pedophile-ring_N.htm International pedophile ring smashed]
* [https://www.boychat.org/bcd/2004/878487.htm Discussion of server downtime] from the December 2004 [[BoyChat Digest]].
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