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The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

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There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref><ref>Everyone thinks they are above average https://web.archive.org/web/20131203092227/http://www.cbsnews.com/news/everyone-thinks-they-are-above-average</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref> (A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.<ref>Arrogance: A Formula for Leadership Failure https://web.archive.org/web/20120729191139/http://www.siop.org/tip/july12/04silverman.aspx</ref><ref>
"Acting Superior But Actually Inferior?: Correlates and Consequences of Workplace Arrogance," Johnson, Russell E.; Silverman, Stanley B.; Shyamsunder, Aarti; Swee, Hsien-Yao; Rodopman, O. Burcu; Cho, Eunae; Bauer, Jeremy, ''Human Performance'', Taylor and Francis Group, 2010, DOI:10.1080/08959285.2010.515279</ref>

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, nor is he very well informed, as he is not familiar with the conclusion (echoed elsewhere) which is found in chapter one, GREEK PEDERASTY AND MODERN HOMOSEXUALITY, by Jan Bremmer, an acknowledged expert in Greek, Roman, early Christian and contemporary religion, social history, and the historiography of ancient religion, <ref>http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/scholars-2012-13/jan-bremmer</ref> in the text ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality''<ref> "http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> :
:"As we have seen, Greek pederasty fundamentally differed in form and function from modern sexuality. Admittedly, the Greek situation offered great opportunities to those males whose sexual interest mainly concerned other males, but this preference had to be limited to boys and, moreover, the passive and active roles in these relationships were sharply defined. In addition, this preference had to be propagated with moderation, without completely excluding the opposite sex. At the same time, the aspect of initiation into the adult world illuminates an even more important difference between Greek pederasty and modern ways of homosexuality. Whereas modern homosexuals often occupy a marginal position in society and are regularly considered to be effeminate, in Greece it was pederasty that provided access to the world of the socially elite; it was only the pédérastie relationship that made the boy into a real man. The Greeks, then, certainly knew of 'Greek love' and their interest in boys was never purely platonic, but they did not, in any sense, invent homosexuality!" (p.11)
This demonstrates <ref>Good Gossip: We May Spread Rumors to Protect Others https://web.archive.org/web/20140104161132/http://m.livescience.com/18345-good-gossip-reputation-protect.html</ref>
the administrator's error when criticizing the statement, cited above, made by the intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" he may consider himself to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
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==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



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User:User4

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==About User4==

I'm an educator. Unfortunately, I cannot disclose any personal details about myself, as this would endanger my personal security. I can mention a few things, though. I am extremely well-read on the topic of BoyLovers, and I have a huge and extensive library on the topic, including the "cons" (usually written by those who are poorly informed and/or completely misinformed) as well as the "pros" (including those serious researchers who have investigated the "problem" of BoyLove in a much less biased manner, which has lead them to a much clearer understanding.)

I have been involved in making many of these materials available to others, particularly to BoyLovers. I have studied the "problem" of BoyLovers within the context of Western cultures as well as that of many other cultures around the world. I am what is called by many a "pedophile apologist," and my studies have led me to understand exactly how U.S. 3rd-wave radical feminists and right-wing Republicans living in Western cultures have lied about BoyLove and BoyLovers.
So, because of opposition to my well-founded and well supported beliefs and understandings, many people (including many BoyLovers) place me in the strongly despised camp of what they refer to as "pro-contact."

I can demonstrate that, indeed, boys are rarely harmed by--and may often benefit from--sexual contact with others, including adults, as long as the contacts are not physically forced and no unduly strong coercion (such as threats, etc.) are used within the relationships.

I was previously involved with posting on BoyChat but, as BoyChat is run by, as well as frequented mostly by, BoyLovers who have "drunk the Kool-Aid" about the assumed, greatly exaggerated, and mostly unfounded "dangers of sexual contact to boys of sexual involvement with BoyLovers," my posting there disturbed many BoyLovers (and others) who are poorly informed or uniformed on the topic. My beliefs are so unpopular that they have made it impossible for me to continue to post on BoyChat.

As many BoyLovers grew up in the 70s and 80s--and in the U.S--which was at a time and in a place when and where the "pedo-hysteria,"--as well as the distribution of misinformation about "pedophiles"--was beginning to peak, many BoyLovers have been strongly influenced by the huge amount of false and misleading "information" which has been disseminated by the media, and supported by the hegemony that the "psych-industries" have achieved in Western cultures, all of which is now (unfairly and wrongly) used to damn BoyLove and BoyLovers.

I would suggest that any BoyLover, if he has not already done so, would be very well advised to inform himself better on the topics just mentioned. If any BoyLover is interested in educating himself about the real "problems" of BoyLovers in (particularly) Western societies, I would be happy to direct him to a rather large amount of reliable information which has been made available.

If any BoyLover is ''not'' currently interested in informing himself on these topics, then I personally believe that that BoyLover should be very careful about voicing his current opinions, and that he should reserve his judgments about the opinions of others until he ''does'' have the opportunity to inform yourself better. -- User4

==Below this line are random notes for my personal use -- you're welcome to read them, but they will make little sense==

==Main Index of all BoyWiki pages (must be manually updated when necessary)==
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/User:User4/DRAFT/Main_Index_of_all_BoyWiki_pages_(must_be_manually_updated_when_necessary) Main Index of all BoyWiki pages (must be manually updated when necessary)]

==Archived articles==
*[[The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement]]
:https://archive.is/eBHny
*[[A BoyLover's Code of Ethics by User4]]
:https://archive.is/uoCkn

==A note about the existing articles at BoyWiki==
Many (perhaps most) of the "articles" on BoyWiki were written by amateur BoyLovers (in terms of their real-world experience with boys and BoyLove, and also in terms of their educational attainments) who were either uninformed, poorly informed, or even ''mis''informed. The existing articles contain a great number of "errors of fact," as well as a very large number of opinions which are highly misinformed. One should not read BoyWiki expecting to find "facts" and well-informed opinions (except, I might add, for articles which I have created or have edited heavily).

==Must continue searching for references==
https://www.boywiki.org/en/Draft:Child_prostitution

==Redirects==
Choose to create the page (by clicking a link, for example, which has a different name than the existing article) and use the following syntax:
:<nowiki>#REDIRECT [[pagename]]</nowiki>

==A discussion/explanation about "citations" and "references"==
https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/4_May_2016

==A controversy about categorization of BoyWiki articles==
See: https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora#A_controversy_about_categorization_of_BoyWiki_articles

==Additional_explanations_about_how_Categories_work--and_why_Categories_exist--on_a_wiki.==
see: https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/4_May_2016#Additional_explanations_about_how_Categories_work--and_why_Categories_exist--on_a_wiki.

== An easily-searchable index of all extant BoyWiki articles ==
I prepared one here:
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/User:User4/DRAFT/Main_Index_of_all_BoyWiki_pages_%28must_be_manually_updated_when_necessary%29
... but it has not been updated with newly created articles since around June of last year (and it was not really complete at that time, either--annotations still needed to be made to some articles).

It used to get (according to a now-disabled feature of the wiki software) a ''tremendous'' number of "hits" (accesses) but it is unclear how many of those may have been external "robots" drawn by serendipity to the site.

Another page I created:
*[[ALL_BW_INTERNAL_LINKS_TO_CHECK_IF_VALID]]
can be useful to determine what links already exist (but, again, it is only valid for links up to around June of last year).
{{BoyWiki_intro}}

NOTE: I will soon be including articles on a number of important books, books which are "in the pipeline".

I have been '''''incredibly''''' busy on other projects... Just to let peeps know ;-)

[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:30, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

[[USER4/DRAFT/Pennyphile]]

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==Added pages==
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*[[A Problem in Greek Ethics]]
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==Discussion 1 with Etenne==

That is redundant.... add the short definitions next to the link. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 00:46, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::You've got it backwards, I think. The ''LINKS'' are redundant, and should be removed '''''if they lead to the exact same text as that from the FAQ glossary.''''' Don't you see that? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 01:07, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::: No I don't think that... the links are the whole point of wiki. However, if you wanted to improve the text that the links lead to, that would be cool.--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 01:21, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::::Uh, oh...

:::: If you don't see that the '''links''' exist <big>'''''ONLY to make the data in the database easily accessible'''''</big>, and that they are '''NOT''' the "whole point of the wiki", then I see serious problems in the future for BW. The ''links'' should NOT get in the way of the information.

::::The links are there only to ''make the information MORE accessible!'' BUT ''only when the links can be used to MAKE THE INFORMATION MORE ACCESSIBLE! Otherwise, the links are not just a nuisance and a distraction, but a threat to the existence of the wiki!

::::People are NOT patient. They will NOT put up with "being given the runaround" and being forced to click on link-after-link to access a very small amount of information.

::::I'm not sure you understand. The bureaucracy (the links) exists only for the PEOPLE - ''not'' the people exist only for the bureaucracy!

::::If the links don't make browsing the information easier, faster, and more informative, then ''they should be eliminated!''

::::You ''really'' should do some reading on "good website design". Really. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 01:35, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

This is a wiki... perhaps you should follow your own advise and read a bit more on Wiki design and go look at how the profession wiki designers are doing it and maybe you will see that we not that far off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_botanical_terms

--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 01:47, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::I am (almost) ready to bet you that in the past month I have read more about wiki theory and design than ''you'' have in the past 18 months of working at BW! And the botanical page you linked to appears to have HUNDREDS of definitions, NOT just a few dozen. When we have ''hundreds of definitions'', then that page will be a good model. But NOT when we have only a few dozen definitions!

:: I just did a rough count - there are around '''''800''''' definitions on that page! '''''800'''''!!!!! [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:14, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

I don't agree --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:24, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::"I don't agree"

::You don't agree that there are 800 definitions, or you don't agree that I have read more about wikis than you have? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:29, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

I don't agree that this is how this page should be structured... I think it would be better to add the short definitions next to the links like on the page with 800 links and improving the pages the pages they link to. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:48, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::See [[Test_Glossary]]. ''THIS'' is what I meant it should look like (no, it is ''not'' finished) Go ahead - ''tell'' me that it is not better! Oh, BTW - you ''could'' have asked me what I meant, in the first place. But instead I had to argue with you then eventually SHOW you what I meant. All of the argument could have been avoided. I was NOT "against the structure" - I was against not putting the info ''on the page'', which I have now done. Before, I did not want to waste the time to integrate it properly. Now I have (it took over 1 1/2 hours, not including accessing the FAQ information earlier - and it is ''still'' only 70 or 80% done). You know, I have ''a lot'' of things happening at once - not just BW.

::Look - I have seen ''many examples'' of how "Categories" and links are poorly or incorrectly used at BW. I have been trying to make the point that they should be used ''correctly'', and in ways that "make sense" to the reader. Giving a bunch of links on a page, all needing to be clicked in order to read a few scraps of information, does ''not'' make sense. Haven't you read my comments on other pages about Categories and links? This was just one example.

::See, ''now'' the page is more like a true glossary, but with links to other more-encyclopedic entries/articles. ''Those'' entries should have Category:Encyclopedia added to them. A few of them, though, really don't contain any additional information. I'm not sure what should be done with them - they may not actually benefit from being in the category "dictionary". Perhaps the links on the "Glossary" page to those should just be removed, but the category "dictionary" left in the entries in case another form of organization of those entries is developed later on. But I doubt that we ever will have a very large number of "dictionary" entries. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 05:16, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::Did you take a look at [[Test_Glossary]]? Do you ''still'' believe that this version here is superior?

::BTW There is ''no such thing'' as the '''DSM-V'''. It does not exist. I don't know why you would want to include a non-existent publication in a (supposedly) "factual" article. But I suppose that just reflects the "standard of quality" here at BW. Or is that a ''lack'' of a standard of quality? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 13:42, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::Re:[[Test_Glossary]] I still like (think they were the correct way to go) the way the links were to begin with but I don't hate the way you currently have set it up.

:::I have read your comments on other pages about Categories and links. I agree with you that it could be improved but I don't have a good handle on exactly what you are purposing. Somethings are easier to do then others. You say you have read all these articles and imply that you now know wiki better then me but I have seen nothing to prove that. Both ?Leucosticte and I suggested that you name and rename the draft pages you are working on to either a Namespage: project page or a user space and you are still not doing this. This is really not a big deal for me but it indicates that you are still learning. Don't get me wrong, I don't expect people to be perfect on the first go. I don't doubt that from where you were when you started to where you are now has greatly improved and that you are gaining new skills rapidly however procedurally you still lack some of the nuances. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 14:11, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::::''"Both ?Leucosticte and I suggested that you name and rename the draft pages you are working on to either a Namespage: project page or a user space and you are still not doing this."''

::::::''"I am (almost) ready to bet you that in the past month I have read more about <big>'''wiki theory and design'''</big> than ''you'' have in the past 18 months of working at BW!

:::::::<big>'''''wiki theory and design'''''</big>

:::::Being familiar with "wiki theory and design" does NOT mean that I am familiar with the actual day-to-day ''mechanics'' of wiki code and operations. It means I am familiar with ''wiki theory and design''! [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:17, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::::::''"I have read your comments on other pages about Categories and links. I agree with you that it could be improved but I don't have a good handle on exactly what you are purposing."''

:::::I am proposing (rather than "purposing") that the admin here have lacked an understanding of ''wiki theory and design'', which is a ''subset'' of webpage theory and design. But to explain all of that in detail to you, I would have to go back and review the dozens and dozens of pages I have already read on the topic, reread the .PDF files that I have downloaded and read on the subject, reread the half-dozen or so of books I have on webpage design (would you like some? that can be arranged) then summarize it here for you. I don't have time for that right now (and I doubt that I ever will, either). What you ''could'' do is to listen to my suggestions very carefully, and try to understand them, and then incorporate them into how BW. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:17, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::: DSM V - http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=dsm+v+manual&tag=googhydr-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=20616240637&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6145967019889507040&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_6i8loerbze_b

::::: I followed the link above, but I could ''not'' find references to a "DSM-V" on the page. I ''DID'' see references to "DSM-5". I am absolutely ''amazed'' that you ''do'' apparently find those references. Editors ''must'' read what is written ''carefully''! <big> P~ </big> [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:17, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

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==Discussion 2 with Etenne==

-
Most of these (IMNSHO) also belong in the category "Encyclopedia". To manually add the category to each of them would be ''very time-consuming''. There ''is'' a way to automatically add the category to each of these, by using a "bot".

I suggest that it is essential that BW admin investigate as soon as possible the design and use of "bots" so as to save the time and effort of editors - time which could be ''much better spent'' on improving the articles rather than on "mechanical" and "repetitive" tasks, which are ''exactly'' what computer programs were designed for - to automate tasks and make life simpler and better for humans.

Until very recently, there ''was'' a user here at BW who displayed skills with "bots", but for some reason he has now (apparently) ceased to make any further contributions here at BW. Was he somehow discouraged by the actions or attitudes of some here? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 14:36, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:All articles in Category:Fledgling were put there because they are incomplete. If you wish to finish any of them and add them to the appropriate categories, I would encourage you to do so.

:As for Bots, I will ask the BoyWiki counsel what they think.

:As for the user you ask about, I don't know who you are talking about?

--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 14:44, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::If all articles which are "incomplete" are excluded from the categories which they correctly belong to, then ''no'' articles should be classified in ''any'' categories.

::Wiki articles are ''always'' subject to editing and improvement. That, by definition, is ''exactly what a wiki is!'' Wiki articles are ''never'' "complete". [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:32, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::: Nothing has been purposefully excluded... I looked at the first few articles are all of them were categorized in their proper category. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:55, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::::I see now that you, indeed, don't "get it".

::::I may have to reconsider my continuing participation here. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:13, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::::I think you need to ask yourself if you aren't making the same mistakes here that you have made elsewhere. Just because '''you''' think it is a good idea doesn't mean other people are going to automatically be on board or that what they think is right is not equally as valid. I have no problem with many of your ideas, I have no problem if you wanted to add every article from every subcategory to Category:Encyclopedia (but not remove them from their proper subcategories) and I certainly have absolutely no problem with you wanting to improve the Help:pages. Where I have a problem is with you trying to say "this has be to changed" and assuming that it is wrong when you have no idea why it was set up that way in the first place or even take into consideration that it might be correct even if you don't know why. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 17:39, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::::::---

::::::There are people who know how to do certain things. And there are people who ''don't'' know how to do certain things.

::::::There is an Arabic proverb:

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><poem>

"He who knows not, and knows ''not'' that he knows not, is a fool.

Shun him.

He who knows not, and ''knows'' that he knows not, is a child.

Teach him.

He who knows, and knows ''not'' that he knows, is asleep.

Wake him.

He who knows, and ''knows'' that he knows, is wise.

Follow him."</poem>

</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>

::::::Hmm... So what ''do'' you know? What do you ''think'' you know?

::::::For example, what do you know about formulating database queries?

::::::Did you even know that formulating database queries is what we have ''really'' been talking about all along?

::::::::''"Just because '''you''' think it is a good idea doesn't mean other people are going to automatically be on board..."''

::::::True. That is covered in the above proverb.

::::::::''"...or that what they think is right is not equally as valid."''

::::::Valid opinions are held by those who ''know''. Invalid opinions are a complete waste of time. (See the above proverb.)

::::::Excuse me that - after having carefully, ''very patiently'', and repeatedly, explained a number of important things - I have now become less diplomatic in my approach.

::::::My bad.

::::::[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 18:56, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

That being the case, I only see that you have three options:

1. Accept the things you cannot change and change the things you can. (which is what I recommend)

2. Appeal my decisions to Bron at Bron@boywiki.org

3. Decide that this is not a good fit for you and leave for which I will say, sorry to see you go.

--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 19:52, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

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:I really think you ''still'' "don't get it".

:I have not asked you to "reclassify" already classified articles.

:Do you understand what I ''have'' said needs to be done?

:Oh - and just what ''is'' this/these "decision(s)" of yours?

:And also, you might want to keep in mind your "#1" above - if you want ''quality'' work, you may have to put up with criticisms from folks with somewhat-abrasive personalities. And learn from them. And then have a ''much better'' wiki.

:[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:08, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

---

==Discussion 3 with Etenne==

::Because it is incomplete. There is a lot more information that should be added --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 14:27, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:There seems to be some confusion on your part as to what a "wiki" is. It is a collaborative effort by a number of contributors who continually update and improve articles blah blah blah...

:Wikis are ''never'' "complete". They are always "a work in progress".

:This one has sufficient information to make it (somewhat) useful to readers, so it should be included in "Encyclopedia". And ''also'' it should be marked as needing improvement/updating/etc. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:26, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

: it is in Encyclopedia => Online history => Free Spirits --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:40, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::You ''still'' don't "get it", do you? ''Why'' should I bother trying to try to explain it to you again? Tell me, '''''WHY'''''? 15:54, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::no I get it... you want to eliminate all the subcategories and place everything in Category:Encyclopedia because you don't want to use the search function, you don't want to add categories to pages that could be in mutable categories, nor do you want to use [[Special:AllPages]] If I am wrong, please explain? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 16:04, 9 April 2014

THE LAST COMMENT BY ETENNE WAS NOT RESPONDED TO MY ME BECAUSE I HAD NOT NOTICED IT BEFORE ETENNE REMOVED THE ABOVE FROM THE PAGE.

==Azov Prosecutions and Amazon.com==
:Azov Prosecutions and Amazon.com was deleted for the following reason: It was not footnoted, ie, it made criminal allegations toward Amazon.com without documentation and was potentially libelous. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 13:59, 1 May 2014 (CEST)

[[Category:Active BoyWiki editors]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T21:24:26Z

User4: /* What this means in practice */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref><ref>Everyone thinks they are above average https://web.archive.org/web/20131203092227/http://www.cbsnews.com/news/everyone-thinks-they-are-above-average</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref> (A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.<ref>Arrogance: A Formula for Leadership Failure https://web.archive.org/web/20120729191139/http://www.siop.org/tip/july12/04silverman.aspx</ref><ref>
"Acting Superior But Actually Inferior?: Correlates and Consequences of Workplace Arrogance," Johnson, Russell E.; Silverman, Stanley B.; Shyamsunder, Aarti; Swee, Hsien-Yao; Rodopman, O. Burcu; Cho, Eunae; Bauer, Jeremy, ''Human Performance'', Taylor and Francis Group, 2010, DOI:10.1080/08959285.2010.515279</ref>

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, nor is he very well informed, as he is not familiar with the conclusion (echoed elsewhere) which is found in chapter one, GREEK PEDERASTY AND MODERN HOMOSEXUALITY, by Jan Bremmer, an acknowledged expert in Greek, Roman, early Christian and contemporary religion, social history, and the historiography of ancient religion, <ref>http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/scholars-2012-13/jan-bremmer</ref> in the text ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality''<ref> "http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> :
:"As we have seen, Greek pederasty fundamentally differed in form and function from modern sexuality. Admittedly, the Greek situation offered great opportunities to those males whose sexual interest mainly concerned other males, but this preference had to be limited to boys and, moreover, the passive and active roles in these relationships were sharply defined. In addition, this preference had to be propagated with moderation, without completely excluding the opposite sex. At the same time, the aspect of initiation into the adult world illuminates an even more important difference between Greek pederasty and modern ways of homosexuality. Whereas modern homosexuals often occupy a marginal position in society and are regularly considered to be effeminate, in Greece it was pederasty that provided access to the world of the socially elite; it was only the pédérastie relationship that made the boy into a real man. The Greeks, then, certainly knew of 'Greek love' and their interest in boys was never purely platonic, but they did not, in any sense, invent homosexuality!" (p.11)
This demonstrates <ref>Good Gossip: We May Spread Rumors to Protect Others https://web.archive.org/web/20140104161132/http://m.livescience.com/18345-good-gossip-reputation-protect.html</ref>
the administrator's error when criticizing the statement, cited above, made by the intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T21:08:58Z

User4: /* The question of intelligence */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref><ref>Everyone thinks they are above average https://web.archive.org/web/20131203092227/http://www.cbsnews.com/news/everyone-thinks-they-are-above-average</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref> (A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.<ref>Arrogance: A Formula for Leadership Failure https://web.archive.org/web/20120729191139/http://www.siop.org/tip/july12/04silverman.aspx</ref><ref>
"Acting Superior But Actually Inferior?: Correlates and Consequences of Workplace Arrogance," Johnson, Russell E.; Silverman, Stanley B.; Shyamsunder, Aarti; Swee, Hsien-Yao; Rodopman, O. Burcu; Cho, Eunae; Bauer, Jeremy, ''Human Performance'', Taylor and Francis Group, 2010, DOI:10.1080/08959285.2010.515279</ref>

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, nor is he very well informed, as he is not familiar with the conclusion (echoed elsewhere) which is found in chapter one, GREEK PEDERASTY AND MODERN HOMOSEXUALITY, by Jan Bremmer, an acknowledged expert in Greek, Roman, early Christian and contemporary religion, social history, and the historiography of ancient religion, <ref>http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/scholars-2012-13/jan-bremmer</ref> in the text ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality''<ref> "http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> :
:"As we have seen, Greek pederasty fundamentally differed in form and function from modern sexuality. Admittedly, the Greek situation offered great opportunities to those males whose sexual interest mainly concerned other males, but this preference had to be limited to boys and, moreover, the passive and active roles in these relationships were sharply defined. In addition, this preference had to be propagated with moderation, without completely excluding the opposite sex. At the same time, the aspect of initiation into the adult world illuminates an even more important difference between Greek pederasty and modern ways of homosexuality. Whereas modern homosexuals often occupy a marginal position in society and are regularly considered to be effeminate, in Greece it was pederasty that provided access to the world of the socially elite; it was only the pédérastie relationship that made the boy into a real man. The Greeks, then, certainly knew of 'Greek love' and their interest in boys was never purely platonic, but they did not, in any sense, invent homosexuality!" (p.11)
This demonstrates the administrator's error when criticizing the statement, cited above, made by the intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T21:02:11Z

User4: /* What this means in practice */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref> (A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.<ref>Arrogance: A Formula for Leadership Failure https://web.archive.org/web/20120729191139/http://www.siop.org/tip/july12/04silverman.aspx</ref><ref>
"Acting Superior But Actually Inferior?: Correlates and Consequences of Workplace Arrogance," Johnson, Russell E.; Silverman, Stanley B.; Shyamsunder, Aarti; Swee, Hsien-Yao; Rodopman, O. Burcu; Cho, Eunae; Bauer, Jeremy, ''Human Performance'', Taylor and Francis Group, 2010, DOI:10.1080/08959285.2010.515279</ref>

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, nor is he very well informed, as he is not familiar with the conclusion (echoed elsewhere) which is found in chapter one, GREEK PEDERASTY AND MODERN HOMOSEXUALITY, by Jan Bremmer, an acknowledged expert in Greek, Roman, early Christian and contemporary religion, social history, and the historiography of ancient religion, <ref>http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/scholars-2012-13/jan-bremmer</ref> in the text ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality''<ref> "http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> :
:"As we have seen, Greek pederasty fundamentally differed in form and function from modern sexuality. Admittedly, the Greek situation offered great opportunities to those males whose sexual interest mainly concerned other males, but this preference had to be limited to boys and, moreover, the passive and active roles in these relationships were sharply defined. In addition, this preference had to be propagated with moderation, without completely excluding the opposite sex. At the same time, the aspect of initiation into the adult world illuminates an even more important difference between Greek pederasty and modern ways of homosexuality. Whereas modern homosexuals often occupy a marginal position in society and are regularly considered to be effeminate, in Greece it was pederasty that provided access to the world of the socially elite; it was only the pédérastie relationship that made the boy into a real man. The Greeks, then, certainly knew of 'Greek love' and their interest in boys was never purely platonic, but they did not, in any sense, invent homosexuality!" (p.11)
This demonstrates the administrator's error when criticizing the statement, cited above, made by the intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T20:53:14Z

User4: /* What this means in practice */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref> (A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.<ref>Arrogance: A Formula for Leadership Failure https://web.archive.org/web/20120729191139/http://www.siop.org/tip/july12/04silverman.aspx</ref>

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, nor is he very well informed, as he is not familiar with the conclusion (echoed elsewhere) which is found in chapter one, GREEK PEDERASTY AND MODERN HOMOSEXUALITY, by Jan Bremmer, an acknowledged expert in Greek, Roman, early Christian and contemporary religion, social history, and the historiography of ancient religion, <ref>http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/scholars-2012-13/jan-bremmer</ref> in the text ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality''<ref> "http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> :
:"As we have seen, Greek pederasty fundamentally differed in form and function from modern sexuality. Admittedly, the Greek situation offered great opportunities to those males whose sexual interest mainly concerned other males, but this preference had to be limited to boys and, moreover, the passive and active roles in these relationships were sharply defined. In addition, this preference had to be propagated with moderation, without completely excluding the opposite sex. At the same time, the aspect of initiation into the adult world illuminates an even more important difference between Greek pederasty and modern ways of homosexuality. Whereas modern homosexuals often occupy a marginal position in society and are regularly considered to be effeminate, in Greece it was pederasty that provided access to the world of the socially elite; it was only the pédérastie relationship that made the boy into a real man. The Greeks, then, certainly knew of 'Greek love' and their interest in boys was never purely platonic, but they did not, in any sense, invent homosexuality!" (p.11)
This demonstrates the administrator's error when criticizing the statement, cited above, made by the intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T20:49:48Z

User4: /* What this means in practice */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref> <ref>Arrogance: A Formula for Leadership Failure https://web.archive.org/web/20120729191139/http://www.siop.org/tip/july12/04silverman.aspx</ref> (A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, nor is he very well informed, as he is not familiar with the conclusion (echoed elsewhere) which is found in chapter one, GREEK PEDERASTY AND MODERN HOMOSEXUALITY, by Jan Bremmer, an acknowledged expert in Greek, Roman, early Christian and contemporary religion, social history, and the historiography of ancient religion, <ref>http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/scholars-2012-13/jan-bremmer</ref> in the text ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality''<ref> "http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> :
:"As we have seen, Greek pederasty fundamentally differed in form and function from modern sexuality. Admittedly, the Greek situation offered great opportunities to those males whose sexual interest mainly concerned other males, but this preference had to be limited to boys and, moreover, the passive and active roles in these relationships were sharply defined. In addition, this preference had to be propagated with moderation, without completely excluding the opposite sex. At the same time, the aspect of initiation into the adult world illuminates an even more important difference between Greek pederasty and modern ways of homosexuality. Whereas modern homosexuals often occupy a marginal position in society and are regularly considered to be effeminate, in Greece it was pederasty that provided access to the world of the socially elite; it was only the pédérastie relationship that made the boy into a real man. The Greeks, then, certainly knew of 'Greek love' and their interest in boys was never purely platonic, but they did not, in any sense, invent homosexuality!" (p.11)
This demonstrates the administrator's error when criticizing the statement, cited above, made by the intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T20:03:52Z

User4: /* What this means in practice */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref>(A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, nor is he very well informed, as he is not familiar with the conclusion (echoed elsewhere) which is found in chapter one, GREEK PEDERASTY AND MODERN HOMOSEXUALITY, by Jan Bremmer, an acknowledged expert in Greek, Roman, early Christian and contemporary religion, social history, and the historiography of ancient religion, <ref>http://isaw.nyu.edu/people/alumni/scholars-2012-13/jan-bremmer</ref> in the text ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality''<ref> "http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> :
:"As we have seen, Greek pederasty fundamentally differed in form and function from modern sexuality. Admittedly, the Greek situation offered great opportunities to those males whose sexual interest mainly concerned other males, but this preference had to be limited to boys and, moreover, the passive and active roles in these relationships were sharply defined. In addition, this preference had to be propagated with moderation, without completely excluding the opposite sex. At the same time, the aspect of initiation into the adult world illuminates an even more important difference between Greek pederasty and modern ways of homosexuality. Whereas modern homosexuals often occupy a marginal position in society and are regularly considered to be effeminate, in Greece it was pederasty that provided access to the world of the socially elite; it was only the pédérastie relationship that made the boy into a real man. The Greeks, then, certainly knew of 'Greek love' and their interest in boys was never purely platonic, but they did not, in any sense, invent homosexuality!" (p.11)
This demonstrates the administrator's error when criticizing the statement, cited above, made by the intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T19:26:23Z

User4: /* What this means in practice */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger number of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref>(A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, or well informed, and is not familiar with chapter one of ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality'' by Jan Bremmer, <ref>http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> which clearly demonstrates why the statement made is a true one.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T19:22:56Z

User4: /* The problem of recognizing intelligence */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger percentage of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 2016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref>(A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, or well informed, and is not familiar with chapter one of ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality'' by Jan Bremmer, <ref>http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> which clearly demonstrates why the statement made is a true one.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T11:36:58Z

User4: /* What this means in practice */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger percentage of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 1016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref> <ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/daniel-hayes/2015/06/20-reasons-why-the-world-is-full-of-dumb-people-who-think-theyre-smart/ Last accessed May 2016 </ref>(A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, or well informed, and is not familiar with chapter one of ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality'' by Jan Bremmer, <ref>http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> which clearly demonstrates why the statement made is a true one.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T11:22:41Z

User4: /* The problem of recognizing intelligence */

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger percentage of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> <ref>https://www.quora.com/How-do-people-judge-whether-others-are-intelligent-or-not last accessed May, 1016</ref>As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref>(A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, or well informed, and is not familiar with chapter one of ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality'' by Jan Bremmer, <ref>http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> which clearly demonstrates why the statement made is a true one.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T11:19:16Z

User4:

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger percentage of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. <ref>Everyday Life as an Intelligence Test: Effects of Intelligence and Intelligence Context, ROBERT A. GORDON, Johns Hopkins University, (1997) INTELLIGENCE 24(1)203-320 ISSN: 0160-2896</ref> And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect. <ref>INTELLIGENCE: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen, (2012) Ulster Institute for Social Research: London ISBN 978-0-9568811-9-9</ref>

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case.<ref>IDIOT AMERICA: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free, CHARLES P. PIERCE, Anchor: New York ISBN: 978-o-7679-2615-7</ref><ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref> As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. <ref>http://www.livescience.com/18678-incompetent-people-ignorant.html</ref>(A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, or well informed, and is not familiar with chapter one of ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality'' by Jan Bremmer, <ref>http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> which clearly demonstrates why the statement made is a true one.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect</ref>

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



[[Category:Draft]]
[[Category:Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Essays]]

User:User4

2016-05-18T06:11:38Z

User4: /* Main Index of all BoyWiki pages (must be manually updated when necessary) */

__TOC__

==About User4==

I'm an educator. Unfortunately, I cannot disclose any personal details about myself, as this would endanger my personal security. I can mention a few things, though. I am extremely well-read on the topic of BoyLovers, and I have a huge and extensive library on the topic, including the "cons" (usually written by those who are poorly informed and/or completely misinformed) as well as the "pros" (including those serious researchers who have investigated the "problem" of BoyLove in a much less biased manner, which has lead them to a much clearer understanding.)

I have been involved in making many of these materials available to others, particularly to BoyLovers. I have studied the "problem" of BoyLovers within the context of Western cultures as well as that of many other cultures around the world. I am what is called by many a "pedophile apologist," and my studies have led me to understand exactly how U.S. 3rd-wave radical feminists and right-wing Republicans living in Western cultures have lied about BoyLove and BoyLovers.
So, because of opposition to my well-founded and well supported beliefs and understandings, many people (including many BoyLovers) place me in the strongly despised camp of what they refer to as "pro-contact."

I can demonstrate that, indeed, boys are rarely harmed by--and may often benefit from--sexual contact with others, including adults, as long as the contacts are not physically forced and no unduly strong coercion (such as threats, etc.) are used within the relationships.

I was previously involved with posting on BoyChat but, as BoyChat is run by, as well as frequented mostly by, BoyLovers who have "drunk the Kool-Aid" about the assumed, greatly exaggerated, and mostly unfounded "dangers of sexual contact to boys of sexual involvement with BoyLovers," my posting there disturbed many BoyLovers (and others) who are poorly informed or uniformed on the topic. My beliefs are so unpopular that they have made it impossible for me to continue to post on BoyChat.

As many BoyLovers grew up in the 70s and 80s--and in the U.S--which was at a time and in a place when and where the "pedo-hysteria,"--as well as the distribution of misinformation about "pedophiles"--was beginning to peak, many BoyLovers have been strongly influenced by the huge amount of false and misleading "information" which has been disseminated by the media, and supported by the hegemony that the "psych-industries" have achieved in Western cultures, all of which is now (unfairly and wrongly) used to damn BoyLove and BoyLovers.

I would suggest that any BoyLover, if he has not already done so, would be very well advised to inform himself better on the topics just mentioned. If any BoyLover is interested in educating himself about the real "problems" of BoyLovers in (particularly) Western societies, I would be happy to direct him to a rather large amount of reliable information which has been made available.

If any BoyLover is ''not'' currently interested in informing himself on these topics, then I personally believe that that BoyLover should be very careful about voicing his current opinions, and that he should reserve his judgments about the opinions of others until he ''does'' have the opportunity to inform yourself better. -- User4

==Below this line are random notes for my personal use -- you're welcome to read them, but they will make little sense==

==Main Index of all BoyWiki pages (must be manually updated when necessary)==
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/User:User4/DRAFT/Main_Index_of_all_BoyWiki_pages_(must_be_manually_updated_when_necessary) Main Index of all BoyWiki pages (must be manually updated when necessary)]

==Archived article==
*[[The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement]]
:https://archive.is/eBHny

==A note about the existing articles at BoyWiki==
Many (perhaps most) of the "articles" on BoyWiki were written by amateur BoyLovers (in terms of their real-world experience with boys and BoyLove, and also in terms of their educational attainments) who were either uninformed, poorly informed, or even ''mis''informed. The existing articles contain a great number of "errors of fact," as well as a very large number of opinions which are highly misinformed. One should not read BoyWiki expecting to find "facts" and well-informed opinions (except, I might add, for articles which I have created or have edited heavily).

==Must continue searching for references==
https://www.boywiki.org/en/Draft:Child_prostitution

==Redirects==
Choose to create the page (by clicking a link, for example, which has a different name than the existing article) and use the following syntax:
:<nowiki>#REDIRECT [[pagename]]</nowiki>

==A discussion/explanation about "citations" and "references"==
https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/4_May_2016

==A controversy about categorization of BoyWiki articles==
See: https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora#A_controversy_about_categorization_of_BoyWiki_articles

==Additional_explanations_about_how_Categories_work--and_why_Categories_exist--on_a_wiki.==
see: https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/4_May_2016#Additional_explanations_about_how_Categories_work--and_why_Categories_exist--on_a_wiki.

== An easily-searchable index of all extant BoyWiki articles ==
I prepared one here:
*https://www.boywiki.org/en/User:User4/DRAFT/Main_Index_of_all_BoyWiki_pages_%28must_be_manually_updated_when_necessary%29
... but it has not been updated with newly created articles since around June of last year (and it was not really complete at that time, either--annotations still needed to be made to some articles).

It used to get (according to a now-disabled feature of the wiki software) a ''tremendous'' number of "hits" (accesses) but it is unclear how many of those may have been external "robots" drawn by serendipity to the site.

Another page I created:
*[[ALL_BW_INTERNAL_LINKS_TO_CHECK_IF_VALID]]
can be useful to determine what links already exist (but, again, it is only valid for links up to around June of last year).
{{BoyWiki_intro}}

NOTE: I will soon be including articles on a number of important books, books which are "in the pipeline".

I have been '''''incredibly''''' busy on other projects... Just to let peeps know ;-)

[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:30, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

[[USER4/DRAFT/Pennyphile]]

<NOWIKI> </NOWIKI>

==Added pages==
[[USER4/DRAFT/Foodexuality]]

[[USER4/DRAFT/TV stars]]

[[USER4/DRAFT/ALL BOYWIKI CATEGORIES (THIS DATE)]]

[[USER4/DRAFT/ALL NEWGON.WIKI CATEGORIES]]

[[USER4/DRAFT/TEST SHOW ALL PAGE]]
*[[To pull stuff out of 1]]
*[[To pull stuff out of 2]]
*[[To pull stuff out of 3]]
*[[To pull stuff out of 4]]
*[[To pull stuff out of 5]]
*[[To pull stuff out of 6]]

*[[The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement]]
*[[A Problem in Greek Ethics]]
*[[For a Lost Soldier (Book)]]
*[[more quotes]]
*[[Quotes about BoyLove]]
*[[United Nations Rules for the Protection of Juveniles Deprived of their Liberty]]

*[[UN Documents: Rights Of The Child]]

*[[Geneva Declaration of the Rights of the Child, League of Nations, 1924]]
*[[Test: Are YOU a pedophile?]]
*[[Cheat sheet]]
*[[Full list of wiki markup notation]]
*[[My wiki editor help page]]
*[[tom ocarroll bio]]
*[[The Major Uranians]]
*[[Some literature]]
*[[TEMPORARY ENTRY-Misc Nambla papers, book recommendations, etc.]]
*[[Sexual Morality and the Law]]
*[[MORE JUNK]]
*[[TEST HYPERLINK]]|THIS HAS BEEN SUPERSEDED BY THE FOLLOWING:
*[[John Stamford]]
*[[Spartacus International Gay Guide]]
https://en.boywiki.org/wiki/New_BoyWiki_Editing_Help_Page
*[[Save the Children]]
*[[HTML ENTITIES]]
*[[HTML ASCII]]
*[[ASCII, OTHER]]
*[[HTML, OTHER]]
*[[COMPARISON OF WIKI MARKUP AND HTML MARKUP]]
*[[Tables]]
*[[Azov Prosecutions and Amazon.com]]
https://en.boywiki.org/wiki/TOC_seems_to_not_work_correctly
*[[Pedophilia, Science and Self-Deception]]
*[[Pedophilia - What is harmful?]]
*[[Pedophilia - Interviews with children]]
*[[Pedophilia - FAQ]]

*[[Temp_for_Filip]]
*[[Uncommon Sense (e-magazine)]]
*[[Uncommon Sense]]
*[[Quick editing/editors tips]]
*[[Computer security]]
*[[Moving pages]]
*[[TESTTHIS]]
*[[Childlove Movement]]
*[[Sodomy]]
[[Pedophilia - Is pedophilia violent?]]
FOLLOWING FROM VARIATIONS OF FOLLOWING (THEIR HELP PAGES:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting

*[[Talk pages]]
*[[Formatting]]
*[[Links]]
*[[Tables]]
*[[Images]]
*[[Mediawiki's help pages content]]
*[[Test Glossary]]

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==Discussion 1 with Etenne==

That is redundant.... add the short definitions next to the link. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 00:46, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::You've got it backwards, I think. The ''LINKS'' are redundant, and should be removed '''''if they lead to the exact same text as that from the FAQ glossary.''''' Don't you see that? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 01:07, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::: No I don't think that... the links are the whole point of wiki. However, if you wanted to improve the text that the links lead to, that would be cool.--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 01:21, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::::Uh, oh...

:::: If you don't see that the '''links''' exist <big>'''''ONLY to make the data in the database easily accessible'''''</big>, and that they are '''NOT''' the "whole point of the wiki", then I see serious problems in the future for BW. The ''links'' should NOT get in the way of the information.

::::The links are there only to ''make the information MORE accessible!'' BUT ''only when the links can be used to MAKE THE INFORMATION MORE ACCESSIBLE! Otherwise, the links are not just a nuisance and a distraction, but a threat to the existence of the wiki!

::::People are NOT patient. They will NOT put up with "being given the runaround" and being forced to click on link-after-link to access a very small amount of information.

::::I'm not sure you understand. The bureaucracy (the links) exists only for the PEOPLE - ''not'' the people exist only for the bureaucracy!

::::If the links don't make browsing the information easier, faster, and more informative, then ''they should be eliminated!''

::::You ''really'' should do some reading on "good website design". Really. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 01:35, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

This is a wiki... perhaps you should follow your own advise and read a bit more on Wiki design and go look at how the profession wiki designers are doing it and maybe you will see that we not that far off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_botanical_terms

--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 01:47, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::I am (almost) ready to bet you that in the past month I have read more about wiki theory and design than ''you'' have in the past 18 months of working at BW! And the botanical page you linked to appears to have HUNDREDS of definitions, NOT just a few dozen. When we have ''hundreds of definitions'', then that page will be a good model. But NOT when we have only a few dozen definitions!

:: I just did a rough count - there are around '''''800''''' definitions on that page! '''''800'''''!!!!! [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:14, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

I don't agree --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:24, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::"I don't agree"

::You don't agree that there are 800 definitions, or you don't agree that I have read more about wikis than you have? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:29, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

I don't agree that this is how this page should be structured... I think it would be better to add the short definitions next to the links like on the page with 800 links and improving the pages the pages they link to. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 02:48, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::See [[Test_Glossary]]. ''THIS'' is what I meant it should look like (no, it is ''not'' finished) Go ahead - ''tell'' me that it is not better! Oh, BTW - you ''could'' have asked me what I meant, in the first place. But instead I had to argue with you then eventually SHOW you what I meant. All of the argument could have been avoided. I was NOT "against the structure" - I was against not putting the info ''on the page'', which I have now done. Before, I did not want to waste the time to integrate it properly. Now I have (it took over 1 1/2 hours, not including accessing the FAQ information earlier - and it is ''still'' only 70 or 80% done). You know, I have ''a lot'' of things happening at once - not just BW.

::Look - I have seen ''many examples'' of how "Categories" and links are poorly or incorrectly used at BW. I have been trying to make the point that they should be used ''correctly'', and in ways that "make sense" to the reader. Giving a bunch of links on a page, all needing to be clicked in order to read a few scraps of information, does ''not'' make sense. Haven't you read my comments on other pages about Categories and links? This was just one example.

::See, ''now'' the page is more like a true glossary, but with links to other more-encyclopedic entries/articles. ''Those'' entries should have Category:Encyclopedia added to them. A few of them, though, really don't contain any additional information. I'm not sure what should be done with them - they may not actually benefit from being in the category "dictionary". Perhaps the links on the "Glossary" page to those should just be removed, but the category "dictionary" left in the entries in case another form of organization of those entries is developed later on. But I doubt that we ever will have a very large number of "dictionary" entries. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 05:16, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::Did you take a look at [[Test_Glossary]]? Do you ''still'' believe that this version here is superior?

::BTW There is ''no such thing'' as the '''DSM-V'''. It does not exist. I don't know why you would want to include a non-existent publication in a (supposedly) "factual" article. But I suppose that just reflects the "standard of quality" here at BW. Or is that a ''lack'' of a standard of quality? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 13:42, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::Re:[[Test_Glossary]] I still like (think they were the correct way to go) the way the links were to begin with but I don't hate the way you currently have set it up.

:::I have read your comments on other pages about Categories and links. I agree with you that it could be improved but I don't have a good handle on exactly what you are purposing. Somethings are easier to do then others. You say you have read all these articles and imply that you now know wiki better then me but I have seen nothing to prove that. Both ?Leucosticte and I suggested that you name and rename the draft pages you are working on to either a Namespage: project page or a user space and you are still not doing this. This is really not a big deal for me but it indicates that you are still learning. Don't get me wrong, I don't expect people to be perfect on the first go. I don't doubt that from where you were when you started to where you are now has greatly improved and that you are gaining new skills rapidly however procedurally you still lack some of the nuances. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 14:11, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::::''"Both ?Leucosticte and I suggested that you name and rename the draft pages you are working on to either a Namespage: project page or a user space and you are still not doing this."''

::::::''"I am (almost) ready to bet you that in the past month I have read more about <big>'''wiki theory and design'''</big> than ''you'' have in the past 18 months of working at BW!

:::::::<big>'''''wiki theory and design'''''</big>

:::::Being familiar with "wiki theory and design" does NOT mean that I am familiar with the actual day-to-day ''mechanics'' of wiki code and operations. It means I am familiar with ''wiki theory and design''! [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:17, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::::::''"I have read your comments on other pages about Categories and links. I agree with you that it could be improved but I don't have a good handle on exactly what you are purposing."''

:::::I am proposing (rather than "purposing") that the admin here have lacked an understanding of ''wiki theory and design'', which is a ''subset'' of webpage theory and design. But to explain all of that in detail to you, I would have to go back and review the dozens and dozens of pages I have already read on the topic, reread the .PDF files that I have downloaded and read on the subject, reread the half-dozen or so of books I have on webpage design (would you like some? that can be arranged) then summarize it here for you. I don't have time for that right now (and I doubt that I ever will, either). What you ''could'' do is to listen to my suggestions very carefully, and try to understand them, and then incorporate them into how BW. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:17, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::: DSM V - http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=dsm+v+manual&tag=googhydr-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=20616240637&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6145967019889507040&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_6i8loerbze_b

::::: I followed the link above, but I could ''not'' find references to a "DSM-V" on the page. I ''DID'' see references to "DSM-5". I am absolutely ''amazed'' that you ''do'' apparently find those references. Editors ''must'' read what is written ''carefully''! <big> P~ </big> [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:17, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

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==Discussion 2 with Etenne==

-
Most of these (IMNSHO) also belong in the category "Encyclopedia". To manually add the category to each of them would be ''very time-consuming''. There ''is'' a way to automatically add the category to each of these, by using a "bot".

I suggest that it is essential that BW admin investigate as soon as possible the design and use of "bots" so as to save the time and effort of editors - time which could be ''much better spent'' on improving the articles rather than on "mechanical" and "repetitive" tasks, which are ''exactly'' what computer programs were designed for - to automate tasks and make life simpler and better for humans.

Until very recently, there ''was'' a user here at BW who displayed skills with "bots", but for some reason he has now (apparently) ceased to make any further contributions here at BW. Was he somehow discouraged by the actions or attitudes of some here? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 14:36, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:All articles in Category:Fledgling were put there because they are incomplete. If you wish to finish any of them and add them to the appropriate categories, I would encourage you to do so.

:As for Bots, I will ask the BoyWiki counsel what they think.

:As for the user you ask about, I don't know who you are talking about?

--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 14:44, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::If all articles which are "incomplete" are excluded from the categories which they correctly belong to, then ''no'' articles should be classified in ''any'' categories.

::Wiki articles are ''always'' subject to editing and improvement. That, by definition, is ''exactly what a wiki is!'' Wiki articles are ''never'' "complete". [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:32, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::: Nothing has been purposefully excluded... I looked at the first few articles are all of them were categorized in their proper category. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:55, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::::I see now that you, indeed, don't "get it".

::::I may have to reconsider my continuing participation here. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:13, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:::::I think you need to ask yourself if you aren't making the same mistakes here that you have made elsewhere. Just because '''you''' think it is a good idea doesn't mean other people are going to automatically be on board or that what they think is right is not equally as valid. I have no problem with many of your ideas, I have no problem if you wanted to add every article from every subcategory to Category:Encyclopedia (but not remove them from their proper subcategories) and I certainly have absolutely no problem with you wanting to improve the Help:pages. Where I have a problem is with you trying to say "this has be to changed" and assuming that it is wrong when you have no idea why it was set up that way in the first place or even take into consideration that it might be correct even if you don't know why. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 17:39, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::::::---

::::::There are people who know how to do certain things. And there are people who ''don't'' know how to do certain things.

::::::There is an Arabic proverb:

<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><poem>

"He who knows not, and knows ''not'' that he knows not, is a fool.

Shun him.

He who knows not, and ''knows'' that he knows not, is a child.

Teach him.

He who knows, and knows ''not'' that he knows, is asleep.

Wake him.

He who knows, and ''knows'' that he knows, is wise.

Follow him."</poem>

</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>

::::::Hmm... So what ''do'' you know? What do you ''think'' you know?

::::::For example, what do you know about formulating database queries?

::::::Did you even know that formulating database queries is what we have ''really'' been talking about all along?

::::::::''"Just because '''you''' think it is a good idea doesn't mean other people are going to automatically be on board..."''

::::::True. That is covered in the above proverb.

::::::::''"...or that what they think is right is not equally as valid."''

::::::Valid opinions are held by those who ''know''. Invalid opinions are a complete waste of time. (See the above proverb.)

::::::Excuse me that - after having carefully, ''very patiently'', and repeatedly, explained a number of important things - I have now become less diplomatic in my approach.

::::::My bad.

::::::[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 18:56, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

That being the case, I only see that you have three options:

1. Accept the things you cannot change and change the things you can. (which is what I recommend)

2. Appeal my decisions to Bron at Bron@boywiki.org

3. Decide that this is not a good fit for you and leave for which I will say, sorry to see you go.

--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 19:52, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

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:I really think you ''still'' "don't get it".

:I have not asked you to "reclassify" already classified articles.

:Do you understand what I ''have'' said needs to be done?

:Oh - and just what ''is'' this/these "decision(s)" of yours?

:And also, you might want to keep in mind your "#1" above - if you want ''quality'' work, you may have to put up with criticisms from folks with somewhat-abrasive personalities. And learn from them. And then have a ''much better'' wiki.

:[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:08, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

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==Discussion 3 with Etenne==

::Because it is incomplete. There is a lot more information that should be added --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 14:27, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

:There seems to be some confusion on your part as to what a "wiki" is. It is a collaborative effort by a number of contributors who continually update and improve articles blah blah blah...

:Wikis are ''never'' "complete". They are always "a work in progress".

:This one has sufficient information to make it (somewhat) useful to readers, so it should be included in "Encyclopedia". And ''also'' it should be marked as needing improvement/updating/etc. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:26, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

: it is in Encyclopedia => Online history => Free Spirits --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:40, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::You ''still'' don't "get it", do you? ''Why'' should I bother trying to try to explain it to you again? Tell me, '''''WHY'''''? 15:54, 9 April 2014 (CEST)

::no I get it... you want to eliminate all the subcategories and place everything in Category:Encyclopedia because you don't want to use the search function, you don't want to add categories to pages that could be in mutable categories, nor do you want to use [[Special:AllPages]] If I am wrong, please explain? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 16:04, 9 April 2014

THE LAST COMMENT BY ETENNE WAS NOT RESPONDED TO MY ME BECAUSE I HAD NOT NOTICED IT BEFORE ETENNE REMOVED THE ABOVE FROM THE PAGE.

==Azov Prosecutions and Amazon.com==
:Azov Prosecutions and Amazon.com was deleted for the following reason: It was not footnoted, ie, it made criminal allegations toward Amazon.com without documentation and was potentially libelous. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 13:59, 1 May 2014 (CEST)

[[Category:Active BoyWiki editors]]

The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement

2016-05-18T06:09:29Z

User4:

There a many attributes of BoyLovers and the BoyLover movement that could be seen as problematic. This article addresses some of those issues.

==Problems with BoyLovers==

===The question of intelligence===
Most BoyLovers are not very intelligent. The majority of BoyLovers are of only average intelligence, while a smaller number fall into the range below and above average intelligence. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref>

"Intelligence" can be briefly defined as one's capacity for:
*logic
*abstract thought
*understanding
*self-awareness
*communication
*learning
*emotional knowledge
*memory
*planning
*creativity and
*problem solving.
It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> A knowledge of vocabulary (within ones native language) is a fairly reliable measure of intelligence, and is part of most intelligence tests. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_test</ref> Those who cannot spell correctly, or who misuse vocabulary terms can often be correctly assumed to be less intelligent, and the greater the number of errors, the less intelligent a person tends to be.

The highly intelligent [[pederasty|pederastic]] BoyLover is relatively rare, while the genius<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius</ref> pederastic BoyLover is even more rare. The highly intelligent ''[[pedophile|pedophilic]]'' Boylover is ''even more rare'', as they are a small subset of all BoyLovers, and a pedophilic genius BoyLover is exceedingly rare. (These numbers can be calculated by estimating the total number of homosexuals in the population, then estimating the subset of this population who are pederasts, and then the even smaller subset of ''pedophilic'' homosexuals.)

===What this means in practice===
It is important to consider both ''percentages'' and ''absolute numbers''. While larger groups in society will have a relatively larger percentage of intelligent members, and may even include some geniuses, the smaller the group, the less likely that this will be the case. The ''relative'' number of highly intelligent or genius BoyLovers (the ''percentage'') may be similar to the relative number in the general population, but the ''absolute number'' of those BoyLovers will be very small.<ref>http://www.dr-aart.nl/Statistics-absolute-and-relative.html</ref>

Intelligent BoyLovers (including those who are pederasts as well as those who are pedophiles) have an advantage over their less-intelligent cohorts. And the more intelligent the BoyLover, the greater the advantage is, in terms of "seeing and understanding the bigger picture" and "knowing how things fit together".

But being intelligent, no matter how highly intelligent one is, is not enough. Education is very important. Without a good education, whatever native intelligence a person may have may not be able to be used effectively.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education</ref> While the uneducated BoyLover may sense that some argument set forth by the [[antis]] is somehow "wrong," he may not be able to put his criticisms into words.

The uneducated BoyLover may also not be able to recognize the fallacies--or the truths--contained in arguments made by those debating the topics of pedophilia and BoyLovers, or be unable to recognize the non-scientific basis of entire fields of (so-called ) "knowledge".<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge</ref> For instance, the myth that [[psychiatrists]] are genuine scientists who base their knowledge on empirical study.

Worse, many unintelligent and less-intelligent BoyLovers (and some of even the more-intelligent BoyLovers) have [[drunk the Kool-Aid]] and accept without question the myths and outright lies disseminated by the [[antis]]

A BoyLover who is highly intelligent, well educated, and highly informed
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/informed</ref> qualifies as an authority whose opinions <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion</ref> tend to be very reliable and should be afforded a great deal of respect.

====The problem of ''recognizing'' intelligence====
Intelligent people can generally recognize ''other'' intelligent people.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence</ref> But less intelligent people may ''not'' be able to recognize ''more'' intelligent people, and the lesser the degree of intelligence one possesses, the more likely it is that this will be the case. As the saying goes, "Stupid is as stupid does"<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_is_as_stupid_does</ref>

==BoyLovers as "authorities"==
Because of the small number of highly intelligent BoyLovers, there is a dearth of BoyLover experts<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert</ref> or authorities <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authority_%28sociology%29</ref> on BoyLove. And the relatively small number of those who ''are'' experts or authorities are often depreciated and their authority is questioned on the Internet by the less-intelligent Boylovers, as well as by the general public. <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Amateur</ref> or have been cowed into silence by the histrionics of the media<ref>Pedophiles on Parade. Vol 1: The Monster in the Media, Vol2: The Popular Imagery of Moral Hysteria. San Antonio, TX: Sonenschein</ref> and persecution by the law enforcement agencies.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Mick_Moran_of_Interpol_and_Pro-active_Pedophile_Policing</ref>

==Problems in the BoyLove movement==

===The disappearance of the intelligent BoyLovers===
Being generally intelligent, informed, and educated is not sufficient when dealing with governments who have decided that a particular field of knowledge is not be be explored, and who will take extreme steps to prevent such exploration. <ref>David Sonenschein, "On having one's research seized." Journal of Sex Research 23(3):408-414.</ref> A naive expectation that constitutional protections apply to, and laws will be justly enforced regarding, those deemed "outlaw groups" by the government has led to the downfall of many intelligent BoyLovers, robbing the movement of some of its most important members.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO</ref>

Many intelligent BoyLovers have not realized the importance of remaining "squeaky clean"
<ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/squeaky_clean</ref> and have maintained collections of images which are either illegal or may be of questionable legality when possessed by a BoyLover, which has led to their arrest and prosecution.
<ref>http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/paedophile-rights-campaigner-jailed-for-child-porn-distribution-290121.html</ref>

As a condition of parole, many BoyLovers are denied access to the Internet, which in today's world means that their voices are essentially silenced.

===The current crippled BoyLove movement===
NAMBLA has suffered at the hands of COINTELPRO-type operations. <ref> http://www.amazon.com/Last-Undercover-Story-Agents-Dangerous/dp/1599951010</ref>, which has severely impacted its ability to influence the public.

In Europe, a number of [[Pro-pedo activism|pro-pedo]] organizations have suffered as well and have either had to curtail their operations or disband.

Given the history of the COINTELPRO operations, it is reasonable to assume that most--or even all--BoyLover groups have been infiltrated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement agencies.

====What this means in practice====
Most current pedophile activities, if engaged in at all by any organized group, tend to be led by less-intelligent BoyLovers (see the definitions above).

Many of these BoyLovers may be ''completely unqualified'' for the positions which they occupy, whether they be as the administrators of forums for BoyLovers, the administrators of wikis for BoyLovers, or individuals maintaining BoyLover blogs. (A notable exception is Tom O'Carroll's excellent blog "Heretic TOC | Not the dominant narrative" <ref>
https://tomocarroll.wordpress.com/</ref>.)

Some may be overly sensitive to or completely intolerant of intelligent criticism (as are many unintelligent as well as intelligent people), and may censor and attack others who criticize them.

Recently, the administrator of one BoyLover resource questioned the following statement by an intelligent, educated, well-informed and authoritative contributor:
:"Greek boylove is not relevant to modern-day BoyLove."
Apparently this administrator is not very well read, or well informed, and is not familiar with chapter one of ''From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality'' by Jan Bremmer, <ref>http://www.amazon.com/Sappho-Sade-Moments-History-Sexuality/dp/0415063000/</ref> which clearly demonstrates why the statement made is a true one.<ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/Talk:BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics</ref><ref>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929</ref>

In essence, today's BoyLover movement is a good example of "the blind leading the blind" <ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_blind_leading_the_blind</ref> while the "one-eyed man in the land of the blind" <ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/in_the_land_of_the_blind,_the_one-eyed_man_is_king</ref> may think himself King, and exercise dictatorial powers--however "benevolent" they may consider them to be <ref>"You seem to think [BoyWiki] is a democracy. It is not. It is a benevolent dictatorship." https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Agora/17_May_2016</ref>--as head of whatever group he has succeeded in becoming the head of.

At the same time, the highly educated, experienced, knowledgeable, and authoritative BoyLover, rare as he may be, tends not to be fully appreciated, and may even be censured and attacked. He may also be ostracized from whatever pro-pedo group he belongs to, despite the fact that he may be a valuable contributor to that effort.<ref>For an example of this, see the contributions of certain editors at [[BoyWiki]]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}


==See also==
*(to be added)
*[[Pro-pedo activism]]
*[[BoyLover mistakes leading to arrest and conviction]]



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BoyWiki:Agora/17 May 2016

2016-05-17T16:34:17Z

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== The (New) Golden Rule? ==

"Do unto others (except BoyWiki editors) as you would have them do unto you?"

https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyLovers%27_codes_of_ethics&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=36112&oldid=35929

Discuss.

[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:34, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths (book)

2016-05-15T22:44:25Z

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[[File:Lovers' Legends- The Gay Greek Myths.jpg|150 px|right]]
'''''Lovers' Legends: The Greek Myths''''' (ISBN 0-9714686-0-5) is a 2002 book by [[Andrew Calimach]], which presents and discusses the Greek myths of male love. This work evokes the world view of two-to-three thousand years ago. The work restores the myths using the exact language of the original fragments whenever possible using the present tense.

Calimach, in his seminars, describes the stories as "orphan myths" because they do not play into any of the main modern political agendas. They depict idealized age-structured male love relationships, thus they do not serve the purpose of the mainstream gay movement.
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==''Lovers' Legends Unbound''==
''Lovers' Legends Unbound'' is a theatrical production directed by Agnes Lev, performed by Timothy Carter, with incidental music composed and performed by Steve Gorn. The work was released by Haiduk Press in 2004 as an audio-CD together with an illustrated libretto. Based on the mythographical research of [[Andrew Calimach]], as published in the ''Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths work''; the performance condenses, intensifies, and brings the Greek myths of male love back to life.

==See also==
*[[Andrew Calimach]]
*[[The Exquisite Corpse of Ganymede by Andrew Calimach]]

==External links==
*[http://www.haidukpress.com/LoversLegends/ Haiduk Press - Lovers' Legends]
*[http://www.haidukpress.com Haiduk Press]
*[http://www.sexarchive.info/BIB/LLGGM/LLGGM.html ''Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths'' at the Magnus Hirschfeld Archive for Sexology]

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Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths (book)

2016-05-15T22:41:38Z

User4: /* External links */

[[File:Lovers' Legends- The Gay Greek Myths.jpg|150 px|right]]
'''''Lovers' Legends: The Greek Myths''''' (ISBN 0-9714686-0-5) is a 2002 book by [[Andrew Calimach]], which presents and discusses the Greek myths of male love. This work evokes the world view of two-to-three thousand years ago. The work restores the myths using the exact language of the original fragments whenever possible using the present tense.

Calimach, in his seminars, describes the stories as "orphan myths" because they do not play into any of the main modern political agendas. They depict idealized age-structured male love relationships, thus they do not serve the purpose of the mainstream gay movement.
{{clr}}
==''Lovers' Legends Unbound''==
''Lovers' Legends Unbound'' is a theatrical production directed by Agnes Lev, performed by Timothy Carter, with incidental music composed and performed by Steve Gorn. The work was released by Haiduk Press in 2004 as an audio-CD together with an illustrated libretto. Based on the mythographical research of [[Andrew Calimach]], as published in the ''Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths work''; the performance condenses, intensifies, and brings the Greek myths of male love back to life.

==See also==
*[[Andrew Calimach]]
*[[The Exquisite Corpse of Ganymede by Andrew Calimach]]

==External links==
*[http://www.haidukpress.com/LoversLegends/ Haiduk Press - Lovers' Legends]
*[http://www.haidukpress.com Haiduk Press]
*[http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/LLGGM/LLGGM.html ''Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths'' at the Magnus Hirschfeld Archive for Sexology] NOTE-URL IS DEFUNCT--MUST UPDATE IT


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[[Category:Ancient Greece]]

Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths (book)

2016-05-15T22:40:40Z

User4: /* External links */

[[File:Lovers' Legends- The Gay Greek Myths.jpg|150 px|right]]
'''''Lovers' Legends: The Greek Myths''''' (ISBN 0-9714686-0-5) is a 2002 book by [[Andrew Calimach]], which presents and discusses the Greek myths of male love. This work evokes the world view of two-to-three thousand years ago. The work restores the myths using the exact language of the original fragments whenever possible using the present tense.

Calimach, in his seminars, describes the stories as "orphan myths" because they do not play into any of the main modern political agendas. They depict idealized age-structured male love relationships, thus they do not serve the purpose of the mainstream gay movement.
{{clr}}
==''Lovers' Legends Unbound''==
''Lovers' Legends Unbound'' is a theatrical production directed by Agnes Lev, performed by Timothy Carter, with incidental music composed and performed by Steve Gorn. The work was released by Haiduk Press in 2004 as an audio-CD together with an illustrated libretto. Based on the mythographical research of [[Andrew Calimach]], as published in the ''Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths work''; the performance condenses, intensifies, and brings the Greek myths of male love back to life.

==See also==
*[[Andrew Calimach]]
*[[The Exquisite Corpse of Ganymede by Andrew Calimach]]

==External links==
*[http://www.haidukpress.com/LoversLegends/ Haiduk Press - Lovers' Legends]
*[http://www.haidukpress.com Haiduk Press]
*[http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/LLGGM/LLGGM.html ''Lovers' Legends: The Gay Greek Myths'' at the Magnus Hirschfeld Archive for Sexology]


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Draft/Pro-pedo activism (from an early Wikipedia article)

2016-05-15T10:10:18Z

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NOTE: This is from a long-lost Wikipedia page titled "Pro-pedo activism". It is a version ''before'' pro-pedo editors were banned from Wikipedia. It contains some ''very good'' information.

I am including first the text, pasted as "straight text," followed by the .HTML code (which includes the links, citations, etc.) which is VERY IMPORTANT to retain.

==Straight text==

Pro-pedophile activism or Pro-paedophile activism (Commonwealth usage) encompasses pro-pedophile organizations and activists that argue for certain changes of criminal laws and cultural response in order to allow pedophiles to sexually abuse[1] children[2][3]. The obverse movement is anti-pedophile activism, which aims to protect children from predatory pedophiles[4][5]. Goals of pro-pedophile activism also include removing the legal protection parents have to prevent their children falling into the hands of pedophiles[6], social acceptance of adults' sexual attraction to children, social acceptance of sexual activity between adults and children, and changes in institutions of concern to pedophiles, such as changing age of consent laws or mental illness classifications.[citation needed]Some pro-pedophile groups are involved in opposing vigilante groups that target anyone with a sexual attraction to children.[7] [8]
Some pro-pedophile activists advocate social acceptance of what they consider to be adult romantic love [9] and sexual attraction to minors, as well as the legalization of what they believe to be non-abusive and mutually consenting adult-minor sexual activity, activity that is currently defined in most legal contexts as child sexual abuse. Other goals of pro-pedophile activism may, but do not necessarily, include the redefinition of contemporary authority relations between adults and minors, and the changing of institutions of concern to pedophiles, such as age of consent laws and mental disorder classifications.[10][11]

Increasing public focus and disapproval of pedophilia has motivated more stringent legislation and stricter criminal penalties regarding child pornography, child sexual abuse, and the use of the internet to facilitate these activities.[citation needed] To consider pro-pedophile activism as a valid political or civil rights activist movement is also unpopular. The movement faces virulent opposition. [12] Camille Paglia said, "These days, especially in America, boy-love is not only scandalous and criminal but somehow in bad taste."[13]
Contents

1 Medical definitions of pedophilia
2 Legal status of sexual activity between adults and children
3 History
3.1 Early developments
3.2 Publishing of Sex met kinderen
3.3 1979 Dutch petition
3.4 Decline of the movement
3.5 Recent developments
3.6 Terminology and symbols used by the movement
3.6.1 Terminology used by the movement
3.6.2 Symbols used by the movement
3.7 Ethics proposed by the movement
4 Activities
5 Perspectives of pro-pedophile activists
5.1 Harris Mirkin
5.2 Study by Mary de Young
5.3 Other pro-pedophilia views
6 Scientific claims
6.1 Questioning assumptions about pedophiles
6.2 Re-categorization of data
6.3 "Socially Representative" sampling and change in ethos
6.4 Other papers supporting some activist opinions
6.5 Rind et al. controversy
7 Controversy and public reaction to the movement
7.1 Criticism of the movement
7.2 Skepticism that the movement does not support child abuse
7.2.1 Child abuse cases in relation to members of NAMBLA
7.2.2 Criminal cases in relation to other pedophile activists
8 See also
8.1 Advocate groups
8.2 Opponent groups
9 Notes and references
9.1 Notes
9.2 References
10 External links

Medical definitions of pedophilia
The ICD-10, an international classification of diseases published by the World Health Organization, lists pedophilia as a paraphilia, and refers to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), mentioned below, for its definition.
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR), describes pedophilia as a paraphilia. [14][15] The diagnosis criteria for Pedophilia are:
A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or younger);
B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty;
C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in criterion A.
In addition, the APA released a statement in 2003 regarding the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia:

The DSM is the standard classification of mental disorders used by mental health professionals and provides clear, objective descriptions of mental illnesses, based upon scientific research. Pedophilia is categorized in the DSM-IV-TR as one of several paraphilic mental disorders. The essential features of a Paraphilia are recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors that generally involve nonhuman subjects, children, or other nonconsenting adults, or the suffering or humiliation of oneself or one’s partner.

An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act and this is never considered normal or socially acceptable behavior. Darrel A. Regier, M.D., M.P.H., Director, American Psychiatric Association’s Division of Research states, “there are no plans or processes set up that would lead to the removal of the Paraphilias from their consideration as legitimate mental disorders.”[16]

Legal status of sexual activity between adults and children
The age of consent varies from country to country, but no country's age of consent is below 12.

History
Regarding the foundation of positions that in some ways mirror later pro-pedophile activism, Robert Stacy McCain writes: "Academic defenses of sex between adults and children date back at least to Alfred Kinsey's famous 1948 and 1952 reports on human sexuality, in which the Indiana University professor claimed that 'children are sexual from birth.' Critics say that pro-pedophilia activism cannot be dismissed as an irrelevant fringe movement because it has real-life consequences."[17] In the 1970s, the movement established itself in continental Western Europe, particularly in the Netherlands.[18][19] At that time the North American Man/Boy Love Association was also a leading gay youth and pederast rights activist group.[20]

Early developments
Psychologist and sexologist Dr. Frits Bernard[21] has stated that he and others formed the Enclave kring ("Enclave circle") in The Hague, the Netherlands in the 1950s.[22] They built upon pre-1940 member information of the surviving Dutch branch of German Magnus Hirschfeld's sexologist Wissenschaftlich-Humanitäres Komitee (WHK) (Scientific-Humanitarian Committee) provided by former WHK member Arent von Santhorst (see interview with Bernard led by ethnologist and political scientist Dr. Joachim S. Hohmann).[23] Bernard, through this Dutch WHK connection, built upon contacts he had established in 1940 for the same purpose with Dutch WHK president, donzel Dr. J. A. Schorer and sexologist Dr. Benno Premsela. Bernard apparently was aware that the German WHK along with its international organization Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, ("Institute for Sexuology"), had published articles on adult-minor sexual interactions prior to 1933.[22] However the German invasion of the Netherlands in 1940 prevented any further co-operation until the end of World War II.[22] One of the very first German occupation regulations in the Netherlands was public declaration of enforcement of German Penal Code sections 175 regarding same-sex activities and 176 regarding adult-child sex interactions in Verordnungsblatt Nr. 81 dating July 31st 1940.[24] WHK members von Santhorst and Bob Angelo (alias Niek Engelschman, later a pedophile activist) had destroyed all Dutch WHK documents to prevent Nazi investigations,[23] and member information was re-constructed after the war by von Santhorst in order to form the Enclave kring.[23]
The Enclave kring, as built upon the pre-war Dutch WHK model, defined itself as a "movement" consisting of "institutions and organizations"[22] serving purposes such as: "to break down prejudice about the issues of erotic contacts and relationships between minors and adults, and to provide information and advice as well as to initiate a direct assistance program."[22] A publishing company of the same name serving these purposes was founded in 1958.[22] According to Bernard,[22] the Enclave kring developed into an international organization (gaining support in Western Europe, New York, Japan, and Hong Kong), and Bernard himself made lecture tours in some of these places.[22] Results of these efforts of the Enclave kring included more positive feedback about pedophile activism in various publications independent from the Enclave kring such as the Dutch Vriendschap ("Friendship", published since 1859), German Der Weg zu Freundschaft und Toleranz ("A way to friendship and tolerance"), Danish Amigo, and Dutch Verstandig Ouderschap ("Reasonable parenthood") by the 1960s.[22]

Publishing of Sex met kinderen
In 1972, Bernard published the book Sex met kinderen ("Sex with children", published not by the Enclave kring but the independent Dutch sexual reform organisation NVSH).[22] The book outlined the history of the Enclave kring and international research in adult-child sexual interaction, partly spurred by the activism of the Enclave kring, partly independent from it, up to that point. According to Bernard citing historian Dr. E. O. Born, this book "had an [public] effect throughout Europe and abroad."[22] It laid the foundation for the 1970s pedophile activism movement in Western Europe.[22][25]
In the 1970s, most organized pedophile activity was centered in the Netherlands and to a lesser degree in Western Europe. Here, a number of researchers, among them Bernard, social psychologist Theo Sandfort, lawyer and politician Edward Brongersma and psychiatrist Frans Gieles, wrote a significant number of papers on the topic, both from theoretical and practical standpoints. A number of papers were produced discussing the effects of adult-child sexual interactions. The data for these papers came mainly from analyzing pedophiles, but also from adults and young people who, as children or adolescents, had been involved in sexual relationships with adults. In a 1988 interview,[26] Bernard said that up to that point he himself as part of his psychological work, and also as an authorized expert witness in a number of court cases, had talked to and analyzed "more than a thousand pedophile adults and about three-thousand children and adolescents who had had [sexual] contacts with adults."

1979 Dutch petition
On June 22, 1979, a petition along with a letter with the same content was sent to the Dutch minister of justice and simultaneously was brought before the Dutch parliament, both petition and letter demanding legalization of mutual sexual activities between children and pedophile adults.
The petition was authored by the Dutch Society for Sexual Reform (NVSH), the Coornhert League for Penal Law Reform, the Humanitarian Confederation, and "radio priest" Alje Klamer. It was signed by social welfare and public mental health organizations such as the General Probation Association, the Netherlands Association for the Integration of Homosexuality (COC), and the official Netherlands Feminism Association. The petition also achieved considerable success within the Dutch parliament, being endorsed unanimously by the executives of the ruling Labour Party as well as the executives of four minority parties in the Dutch Lower House (the Democratic Socialist party, the Pacifist Socialist party, the Democratic party, and the Radical party).[24]
The section of child and youth psychiatry of The Netherlands Society for Psychiatry, as Jan Schuijer wrote, was "apparently alarmed by the success of the petition," and publicly opposed the demands for decriminalization claiming it would undermine parental authority.[27]
In 1980, the COC, the largest gay association in the Netherlands, publicly declared pedophilia a gay issue,[28] and declared further that gay liberation would never be complete without the sexual liberation of children and pedophiles. From 1979 through 1981, the last positive progress of pedophile activism in the Western world was achieved when the Dutch Protestant Foundation for Responsible Family Development (PSVG) sold and distributed tens of thousands of copies of a booklet entitled Pedophilia[29] (originally illustrated with photos) in and to Dutch elementary schools.[30]

Decline of the movement

A 1980 PIE sticker.
In the late 1970s, the center of activity briefly shifted to the United States and the United Kingdom with the 1974 formation of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) in Scotland (later based in London), and the 1978 formation of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) in Boston: "In 1978, the Boston protests spawned an authentic pedophile activist movement, the North American Man-Boy Love Association [...] NAMBLA claimed to be in the tradition of an earlier gay rights movement, the Mattachine Society, which had been intolerably controversial in its day but was now seen as an honored forerunner of mainstream gay activism."[31] Both of these groups achieved relative notoriety in the early 1980s due to a public outcry against them. In an aforementioned 1988 interview, Bernard credited this to severely aggressive and radical behaviour of pedophile activism outside of continental Europe, [26] while on the other hand stating his regret of what he called significant ignorance in sexual matters in general in the US.[26] The PIE capitulated to public pressure and disbanded in 1985, however NAMBLA continued to exist. A 2005 newspaper article quoted an undercover police officer as saying that, in 1995, NAMBLA had about 1,100 members.[32]
On February 5, 1987, Bernard appeared as a guest on the Phil Donahue show and advocated pedophile activism, accompanied by a 23-year-old male who had allegedly been involved in a sexual relationship with an adult as a child.[26]
In the 1980s, a number of other pedophile advocacy groups formed including MARTIJN (1982), situated in the Netherlands, and the Danish Pedophile Association (DPA) (1985). This was followed in the early 1990s by the formation of Ipce (then the "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation," IPCE), an umbrella organization for pedophile activist groups. Although MARTIJN and Ipce continued to function, DPA disbanded in early 2004.
Post-1982, the objections to pro-pedophile activism in continental Western Europe did not appear as heated as in English-speaking countries. Formerly active pro-pedophilia organizations did not get significant or memorable negative public press, but just seemed to lose interest in maintaining their public activities any longer. For the most part, the issue retreated from public awareness. Bernard (born in 1920) retired from his occupation as a psychologist, as an expert witness, and from all of his offices in international organizations in 1985.[26] Even earlier, the number of NVSH members drastically decreased to below 10,000 (at times it had had up to 240,000 members) yielding a serious financial crisis.[30]
Meanwhile, law enforcement's efforts to combat child pornography and sexual contact with minors became more aggressive. In the Netherlands, emerging feminist and victim organizations as well as juvenile police units still supported decriminalization as of 1982 [27]. However, Dutch police (such as Hans Heesters of the Amsterdam police's youth and moral bureau) and law officials were increasingly educated by the FBI on "FBI methods of tracking down the makers and collectors of child pornography" (virtually and effectively "guidelines [that] target those who engage in sexual contacts with underage minors").[27] In 1989, then-resident Dutch minister of justice Korthals Althes publicly stated that weekly meetings on these matters with the FBI and British government had been established in 1985.[30] Beginning in 1984, the US Congress and the US Senate (via the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs, led at that time by Republican William Roth) disseminated information through US and international press channels accusing the Netherlands of ranking "among the most important exporters of child pornography to the US" and stating that children were publicly auctioned in Amsterdam for prostitution and pornography. An investigation entitled Workgroup child-pornography, established by minister of justice Althas and published in August 1986, questioned the extent of these accusations, ultimately declaring them "unsustainable."[27][30]

Recent developments
After the International Lesbian and Gay Association was granted consultative member status within the United Nations Economic and Social Council in 1994, the United States (including President Bill Clinton) publicly threatened to cancel its annual financial contributions of US$1 Million to the UN because ILGA had four pronouncedly pedophile activist member groups: NAMBLA, MARTIJN, US-based Project TRUTH, and German Verein für Sexuelle Gleichberechtigung (VSG, "Association for Sexual Equality"). As a result, the UN status of ILGA was suspended and ILGA expelled all four organizations. The German Bundesverband Homosexualität (BVH, "National Homosexuality Association") called for international protests on ILGA for expelling these groups, in spite of the fact that BVH never before had been observed as sympathizing with pedophile activism.[33][34][30]
In the coming years, pro-pedophile advocacy began to make use of the Internet: "For socially isolated pedophiles, the search for 'human companionship' was a salient concern, and Internet technology provided a virtual solution to the absence of physical convergence settings."[35] This use of the Internet as a space for advocacy and as a "convergence setting" began with the establishment in 1995 of BoyChat, a message board for "boylovers." In 1997, participants on BoyChat and other online resources formed Free Spirits, an umbrella organization with the mission of raising money and providing Internet hosting services: "Web sites such as Free Spirits can be viewed as 'convergence settings' in the sense that they provide structure and continuity in [the] face of any given individual, group or network instabilities."[36] Ipce (formerly "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation"[37]) is a leading activist site. The Montreal Ganymede Collective was formed in Montreal by Free Spirits members in 1998 as a forum for pedophiles to meet in the real world.[38]

Terminology and symbols used by the movement

Terminology used by the movement

Child-lover, Boy-lover, Girl-lover. These are terms of self-identifications used by pedophiles.[39][40]

Pedosexual. Some members of the movement use the term pedosexual, positing that pedophilia should be seen as a distinct sexual orientation as with homosexuality and heterosexuality. It has also been used simply as a synonym for pedophile.[41]

Symbols used by the movement
GLogo - Symbol of Girllove
GLogo - Symbol of Girllove

A blue spiral-shaped triangle symbol, or "BLogo", symbolizes a boy (small triangle) surrounded by an older male (larger triangle).[42] It was designed by an anonymous artist with the pseudonym "Kalos".[43]

A similar logo, a heart within a heart, or "GLogo" was later developed by some pedophiles attracted to girls to symbolize a "bond of love" between adults and girls.[citation needed]

Ethics proposed by the movement
Some pedophile activists have proposed ethical frameworks for sexual interaction with children.[44][45] Such frameworks stress the consent of the child, their ability to withdraw from the relationship, and having open, rather than secret relationships, as key factors.[46][45]
Some[who?] of the people involved in these efforts believe that such ethical guidelines can only work in jurisdictions where adult–child sex is legal and therefore do not address the ethical issues of having an illegal relationship with a minor.[citation needed] Instead, illegal activity is discouraged, such as in the Boylove Code of Ethics[47] which states that a pedophile should "do everything possible to protect his young friend from any harm, including exposure or embarrassment from arrest". MARTIJN's statement is unequivocal: "MARTIJN Association advises everyone to observe the law."[45]
Not all groups associated with the movement support these ethical boundaries. For example, the group Krumme 13 ("Crooked 13")[48] counseled convicted child-molesters to continue their activities once released. According to German AG Pädo[49] and IOCE,[50][51] two other pedophile activist groups, Krumme 13's jailed leader was not trusted in the pedophile community, and the group was detrimental to the pedophile movement.

Activities
Image:K13-Aufkleber.jpg
Krumme 13 logo
Some pro-pedophile activists attempt to create a culture of support to pedophiles who are afraid to discuss their attractions for fear of being criminalized and ostracized. To this end, some pro-pedophile organizations provide online counseling and suicide prevention services.[52] Organizations, like the Krumme 13, have been accused of encouraging pedophiles to act out their desires, thus break laws regarding child sexual abuse and the legal Age of Consent.[53] Other organizations strongly encourage others to take care in not breaking local laws.[45][54]
Much online pedophile activism takes place on message boards, the most prominent ones being based in Montreal, Canada.[55] Some pedophile activists now have blogs.[56] Many of these blogs, especially those at blogger (owned by Google) have been removed for alleged Terms of Service violations.[citation needed]
MARTIJN, as well as publishing a magazine called OK and providing support for pedophiles, is also involved in overt activism, distributing flyers and pamphlets at public gatherings and gay pride marches.[57]
Robin Sharpe, a Canadian pedophile, successfully challenged some aspects of child pornography laws in the Canadian Supreme Court in 2002, arguing that his fictional writings were not illegal because they had artistic merit.[58]
Various groups also promote "holidays" intended to spread understanding and acceptance of pedophilia. International Boylove Day occurs on the first Saturday after the summer solstice and some people also celebrate on the first Saturday after the winter solstice.[59] Alice Day is celebrated by female-attracted pedophiles, on April 25.[60] This is the day Lewis Carroll met Alice Liddell, the girl for whom he wrote Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, on April 25, 1856.

Perspectives of pro-pedophile activists

Harris Mirkin
In his article "The Pattern of Sexual Politics: Feminism, Homosexuality and Pedophilia,"[61] Harris Mirkin, Associate Professor and Chair of Political Science at the University of Missouri, Kansas City, asserts that the refusal to even consider the possibility that pro-pedophile activism could be considered a valid political or civil rights activist movement is partly a politicized act meant to preclude any examination of the arguments put forth by pro-pedophile activists. His argument has been summarized as follows:

According to [Mirkin's analysis of the general pattern of sexual politics,] "battles about sexual ideologies occur in two phases," the first of which is a period of "pre-debate" in which the struggle exists "before the issues become politically visible." [...] Mirkin asserts that, in this "pre-debate" phase, material evidence and formulated arguments are "harder to detect," because "dominant groups deny that there is anything to discuss, asserting that existing arrangements are self-evident and intuitively good." The second phase, on the other hand, involves "a visible political fight." "The battle to prevent the battle," according to Mirkin, "is probably the most significant and hard fought of the ideological battles. At issue is the question of the legitimacy of the subordinate groups, since illegitimate groups are not recognized as putting forth valid claims." The mechanisms employed to "prevent the battle" require that "sexual dissidents (deviants) are not heard by the dominant society," a refusal to hear that is tied to the fact that, during the first phase, "sexual issues are not viewed as legal conflicts. Sex is viewed as separate from politics, and the deviant group is not seen as being entitled to legal or political rights." Because of this, the legal system "rarely challenges the dominant ideology [...] and does not protect deviant sexual speech and action." Such a legal stance allows for "sharp limits [to be] placed on [the deviant group's] speech and art on the grounds that they are disgusting, pornographic, dangerous to the social order and seductive of the innocent". In essence, such "deviants" are refused the very mechanisms of speech — whether those involve words or images — for the only legitimate form that such speech can take is that which affirms "the correctness of the dominant paradigm, demonizing and ridiculing those who question it and trivializing their arguments."[62]

Mirkin's article has drawn criticism, primarily for its resemblance to an apologia:

Intellectual defenses of pedophilia [such as Mirkin's (considered directly before these statements in this article)] are "a huge concern" because they can function as "a green light" to would-be child molesters, says Claire Reeves, president and founder of Mothers Against Sexual Abuse (MASA). "Adults who might have a propensity to hurt a child might say, 'See, it's not harmful. These people are Ph.D.s, they must know,'" Reeves says, adding that she began warning about the pedophilia movement in 1995.[63][64][65][66]

Study by Mary de Young
In 1989, sociologist Mary de Young reviewed the literature published by pedophile organizations for public dissemination. She found that pedophile organizations she studied used the following strategies to promote public acceptance of pedophilia or the legalization of adult-child sex:

Adoption of value-neutral terminology. According to Herdt, an anthropologist who has studied sex between adults and children in other cultures, pedophile advocates should replace "dull and reductionistic" terms like pedophilia and abuse when discussing sex between "a person who has not achieved adulthood and one who has". Moreover, words like "child" or "childhood", which have psychologically developmental meaning, should be "resisted at all costs".[67] See also Promoting "objective" research.

Redefining the term child sexual abuse. Another recurring theme among those seeking to gain social acceptance for pedophilia is the need to redefine or restrict the usage of the term "child sexual abuse", recommending a child's "willing encounter with positive reactions" be called "adult-child sex" instead of "abuse" (Rind et al. 1998). For example, Gerald Jones (1990), an Affiliated Scholar at the Institute for the Study of Women and Men in Society at the University of Southern California, suggested that "intergenerational intimacy" should not be considered synonymous with child sexual abuse. According to Jones, the "crucial difference has to do with mutuality and control" (p. 278). Jones suggested, "Intergenerational attraction on the part of some adults could constitute a lifestyle 'orientation', rather than a pathological maladjustment" (p. 288).

Promoting the idea that children can consent to sexual activity with adults. The reconceptualization of children as willing sexual participants along with the decriminalization of consensual sexual relations is perhaps the key change sought by pedophile advocates. In his book Paedophilia: The Radical Case, activist Tom O'Carroll claims "What there most definitely needs to be [in determining consent] is the child's willingness to take part in the activity in question; whatever social or legal rules are operated, they must not be such as to allow unwilling children to be subjected to sexual acts. But there is no need whatever for a child to know 'the consequences' of engaging in harmless sex play, simply because it is exactly that: harmless."[68] Many other pedophile activists, amongst them David Riegel, Frans Gieles and Lindsay Ashford, actively campaign against the idea that children are unable to consent to sex.

Questioning the assumption of harm. The most common stance against child-adult sex is the assumption that it causes psychological harm to the minor. This claim is taken as true at face value, and any criticism about it is taken as a defense of pedophile activity. This remains to be one of the biggest barriers against pedophile activism, and advocates of pedophilia have attempted to change these barriers in a variety of ways. For example, pedophile activists have argued that there is little or no harm from child-adult sex. Some support their arguments by citing various studies that have argued that the negative outcomes attributed to adult-child sexual relations can usually be better explained by other factors, such as a poor family environment or incest.[69]
Riegel (2000) asserted: "The acts themselves harm no one, the emotional and psychological harm comes from the 'after the fact' interference, counseling, therapy, etc., that attempt to artificially create a 'victim' and a 'perpetrator' where neither exists" (p. 21).
Similar arguments are made by SafeHaven Foundation, an organization for "responsible boylovers". On their website, they wrote, "The child abuse industry ... takes a boy who has enjoyed pleasurable and completely consensual sexual experiences with another boy or man, and traumatizes him in an attempt to convince him that what he did was 'wrong'". In addition, SafeHaven argues that, "many of the supposed traumas elicited by psychotherapy turn out to be nothing more than the result of the False Memory Syndrome" (SafeHaven Foundation, 2001).[70]
In Pedophilia: The Radical Case, Tom O'Carroll writes: "The disparity in size and power between parent and child creates a potential for abuse. But, on the basis that parent–child relationships are generally positive we accept that inequality is simply in the nature of the thing. I would like to see paedophilic relationships looked at in a similar light."[71]
Edward Brongersma, in "Boy-Lovers and Their Influence on Boys," where he reported the result of interviews with participants in adult–child relationships wrote, "within a relationship, sex is usually only a secondary element."[24]

Promoting "objective" research. Pedophile advocate Edward Brongersma, have argued that investigators of child sexual abuse have biased views (Brongersma, 1990), also calling for a less "emotional" approach to the subject (e.g., Geraci, 1994, p. 17; Jones, 1990). Brongersma and Jones have cited Theo Sandfort's (1987) research on boys' relationships with pedophiles,[72] published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Sex Research, as an example of what they consider "objective" research (e.g., Brongersma, 1990, p. 168; Jones, 1990, p. 286). However, critics suggest that the study was "politically motivated to 'reform' legislation" (Mrazek, 1990, p. 318). Robert Bauserman (1990, see also Rind et al. controversy), in turn, has argued that Mrazek's criticisms are "vaporously distorted, irrelevant, or just plain false".[73]

Declassification of pedophilia as mental illness. Activists of the movement quote Moser and Kleinplatz (2003), who suggest that all paraphilia be removed from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).[74]

Other academics specifically criticizing the DSM diagnosis of pedophilia include sexologist Richard Green (2002)[75] and professor of psychiatry William O´Donohue (2000)[76].

Other pro-pedophilia views
Views not mentioned by DeYoung, but often opined by activists include:

Promoting understanding of the difference between pedophilia and sexual activity. Some activists wish to explain the difference between pedophilia and adults' sexual activity with children.

Promoting the testimonies of people who claim no harm from sex as a minor. Some activist websites collect and publish anecdotal material that, according to them, is from various people, mainly adults, who, having been sexually involved with an adult as a minor, claim to have enjoyed or suffered no ill effects from this experience. [77][78]

Referring to experiences of situations where adult-child sex interactions are not illegal, both historical and ethnical. Pedophile activists often point to situations where adult-child sex interactions are not illegal (though not necessarily common) and no negative effects are observed. Most refer to ancient Greece, while some employ ethnological studies. A few also refer to post-antiquity historical situations in the Western world where such conditions existed.[79]

Invoking ideas of continuity between pedophile and other minority activists. Some activists argue that pedophile activism, feminism, gay activism, and anti-racism all relate to the experiences of suppressed and misunderstood groups. This argument is made by Harris Mirkin, in the article quoted above.[80] Other scholars, such as Camille Paglia, have asserted that gay rights (from which much of pedophile activism diverged) should never have rejected the pederastic themes which some activists claim were the "giveaways" required to make homosexual culture acceptable.[81]

Pointing to juvenile sexual activity in the animal kingdom and invoking evolutionary arguments. Other species are sometimes used as examples of beneficial or normalized sexual contact between grown animals and infants or adolescents. One popular case is that of a close relative to humans, the Bonobo, where infant-initiated sexual touching is part of everyday life, and intercourse is sometimes initiated by the young.[82] Elsewhere, it is argued that, in evolutionary terms, it makes sense for prepubescent humans to be educated in affective sexual intimacy before the age of fertility (hence the development of reproductive potential).[83]

Other goals of pro-pedophile activism may, but do not necessarily include a redefining of contemporary authority relations between adults and minors and the changing of institutions of concern to pedophiles, such as age of consent laws and mental disorder classification.[84][85]

Scientific claims

Questioning assumptions about pedophiles
Members of the movement have referred to a few scientific studies which document the percentage of people that responds to pedophilic stimuli, including papers such as Hall et. al., in which 26.25% of male volunteers exhibited equal or greater sexual arousal to pedophilic audio stimuli, and 33% for pedophilic imagery.[86]
Activists argue there is a distinction between pedophiles and child molesters, citing, for example, Fagan, Wise, Schmidt and Berlin, who wrote, "Pedophilia is a diagnosis applicable to only a portion of individuals who sexually abuse children. Information has been drawn from published research about pedophilia and child sexual abuse in general to present the current state of knowledge. Despite a sizeable body of published, peer-reviewed articles about topics such as child sexual abuse, child molestation, and sexual offenders, data and our knowledge base about pedophilia have significant limitations."[87]
Activists question assumptions about personality correlates of pedophilia as a condition.[88] Some cite Okami and Goldberg, who stated in 1992, "The scientific support for the belief that pedophiles are passive, dependent, unassertive, isolated, and socially awkward is weak. Almost all studies are based on offenders against minors rather than on pedophiles. They typically find that such offenders are similar to other kinds of offenders."[89] Some also cite Langevin, who wrote in 1983 that, "The data also do not support the theories that pedophilia is due to fixation at an immature stage of development, to an inability to relate to women, to mental retardation, or to senility," and noted that, "One non-clinical study suggests that studies of clinical samples may be biased toward finding pathology which is not an inherent part of the sexual anomaly. There may be well-adjusted pedophiles living in the community... Even when characteristic traits are found, they may be due to society’s reactions rather than be causes or correlates of pedophilia."[90]
Pro-pedophile activists claim that pedophiles' feelings toward children include other emotions besides sexual attraction.[91] Some activists again cite Okami and Goldberg, who wrote, "Several studies have shown that men whose sexual preference is for children often have a complex set of attitudes, beliefs, and feelings about children in which sexual desire may be subordinate. They often interact with children in ways that include many non-sexual aspects, including affection, which children experience positively."[89] They concluded that, "An unknown percentage of true pedophiles may never act on their sexual feelings, and many sex offenders against minors are not pedophiles. Pedophiles probably cannot be studied due to social stigma and mandatory reporting laws."[89]

Re-categorization of data
Some pedophile activists attempt to refute scientific research that finds sexual contact between adults and children as predominantly harmful by stating that there is a variety of different categories for adult-child sex interactions that are commonly not acknowledged by mainstream scientific research. They claim that studies showing harm from adult-child sexual contact might have shown that some types of contact are harmless, if only the studies had carefully categorized the contacts into more narrow categories, such as "consensual" contact versus "non-consensual" contact.[24][92][93][94][95][96][97]

"Socially Representative" sampling and change in ethos
Some activists claim that "sexual abuse" studies, by their very definition and aims, self-select the categories of interaction that involve negative experiences, even in those cases where medical or legal samples have been avoided and a sample more representative of the general population has been used. For example, Edward Brongersma criticizes these studies for being tainted by three problems that result in what he terms "Inadequate Research" — "First Source of Error: Sexual Activity as the Decisive Test," "Second Source of Error: Mingling Boy-Lovers and Girl-Lovers," and "Third Source of Error: Bias." The result, for Brongersma, is that "The influence a man may have on a boy in a man/boy-relationship is a difficult subject to broach: empirical research is conspicuous by its virtual absence and theory has been highly distorted by social prejudice and the seeming inability of most investigators to make proper distinctions. Thus an outsider who wishes to gain some insight into what really happens in a sexually expressed relationship between a man and a boy has very little to go on."[98]
Some also claim that there is political pressure[99] on scientists not to produce results that are contrary to the political consensus, leading to fundamental biases in research techniques (such as the confusion of correlation and causality).[100] Other criticisms such as the use of confusing terminology, confusion of morality and ideology with science, and the generalisation of clinical and criminal samples to society as a whole are mirrored by the Male Homosexual Attracton to Minors Information Center.[101]

Other papers supporting some activist opinions
Ben Spiecker and Jan Steutel, in a paper entitled Paedophilia, Sexual Desire and Perversity, argued that consent is possible in some older prepubescent children. They concluded, however, that, "Paedophile sex is a form of exploitation because it endangers the long-term welfare of the child. Consequently, paedophilia involves desires towards behaviour that is morally wrong, but only in some forms of paedophilia are these desires perverse."[102] In Intergenerational Sexual Contact: A Continuum Model of Participants and Experiences, Joan Nelson wrote, "De Young (1982) reports that 20% of her 'victims' appeared to be 'virtually indifferent to their molestation' Instead, they tended to be traumatized by the reaction of adults to its discovery."[103] Theo Sandfort's 1980 study in which 25 boys aged 10 - 16 and involved in pederasty were interviewed concluded that, "Except on the basis of violation of moral standards, there was nothing in what these boys said that would justify punishment. …[The laws] should be so drawn up that the kind of sexual contacts which these 25 boys experienced would fall outside of their application."[104]

Rind et al. controversy
A meta-analysis of studies using college students by Bruce Rind, Philip Tromovitch and Robert Bauserman published by the American Psychological Association in 1998 found a weak correlation between sex abuse in childhood and the later instability of the child's adult psyche. It noted that a significant percentage reported their reactions to sex abuse as positive in the short term and concludes that for research purposes some cases of child sex abuse would be better labeled "adult-child sex". The article stated in the addendum that "CSA does not cause intense harm on a pervasive basis regardless of gender in the college population" (Rind et al., 1998, p. 46), but warns "The current findings are relevant to moral and legal positions only to the extent that these positions are based on the presumption of psychological harm" (p. 47).
The paper faced multiple academic disputations, including sample bias, non-standardization of variables, statistical errors, and researchers' personal bias.[105][106][107][108][109] The article's authors have published replies to these claims.[110][111]
In addition to academic criticism, the article received massive criticism from conservative activists and groups, including radio personality Laura Schlessinger. She and others called the article an attempt to normalize pedophilia. Congressman Tom DeLay and others sought a formal congressional action against the APA for the article. In 1999 Congress unanimously passed a bill stating that "children are a precious gift and responsibility given to parents by God" and that the study was "severely flawed", although it did not cite any specific errors.[112]

Controversy and public reaction to the movement
Nearly all national governments conform to United Nations protocols for age-of-consent legislation and the criminalization of child pornography. From 2000 to 2004, over 130 nations signed a United Nations accord to criminalize child pornography. The U.N. convention on legal age for marriage has been in force since 1964.[113]
Members of the movement assert that they do not support child abuse or illegal activity.[54][45][114] Public reaction to this claim has been skeptical.

Criticism of the movement
The ICD-10 and DSM IV, which are medical diagnosis manuals, describe pedophilia as a paraphilia and mental disorder of adults or older youths, if it causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
Law enforcement officials and psychologists have asserted that the movement's online support groups help some pedophiles to justify engaging in adult-child sexual contact. They claim that adults arrested for child molestation frequently cite the positions of the movement as justification for their actions (Finkelhor, 1984).[115][116][117] In an interview with KCTV5[118], Phill Kline, Kansas Attorney General, characterized the goal of certain pedophile activists to change age-of-consent laws as "twisted." Some psychologists consider various positions of the movement to be the “cognitive distortions” characteristic of sexual abusers.[119]
For example, in August 2006, The New York Times published the results of a four-month investigation of online pedophile communications and activities.[120] The newspaper described how “pedophiles view themselves as the vanguard of a nascent movement seeking legalization of child pornography and the loosening of age-of-consent laws.” And while "pedophiles often maintain that the discussion sites are little more than support groups,” the newspaper asserted that, “[r]epeatedly in these conversations, pedophiles said the discussions had helped them accept their attractions and had even allowed them to have sex with a child without guilt."

Skepticism that the movement does not support child abuse
Many child abuse prevention advocates, law enforcement officials, and journalists note that various child molestation convicts were also members of the movement. Those involved with the movement have responded by claiming that this was either not true, the acts were victimless "crimes" (before intervention), or that the movement could have even helped them avoid crossing the line into abuse by giving them a more positive identity than society does.[121][122][123] Some claim that dwelling on these arrests attempts to smear the movement through guilt-by-association. Nonetheless, mainstream observers remain skeptical that ardent advocates of adult-child romance and sex stay within the law – citing these arrests as evidence.[124]
Concerning the recent sex scandals involving Catholic priests in the US, some pedophile activists say that these scandals only or prominently involved minor partners that during the times of sexual interactions were adolescent and thus, these scandals have nothing to do with pedophile activism.[125][126][127]

Child abuse cases in relation to members of NAMBLA
Many of these incidents giving grounds to skepticism involve members of NAMBLA, the organization most widely known to the U.S. public. Some claim that these activities are limited to members of this organization and are not representative of the larger movement.[citation needed] Dutch psychologist and pedophile activist Frits Bernard has argued that NAMBLA at least started out as an ephebophile, not a pedophile activism organization as identifiable by its original political and social reform program, and that its program remained like that at least until 1982 when Bernard made his statement.[128]
Incidents include:

Rev. Paul Shanley, a priest accused of abusing children as young as six years old over a period of three decades, allegedly participated in early movement workshops and advocacy, according to contemporaneous accounts of the events obtained by the Boston Globe.[129][130] Pedophile activists have sought to cast doubt on Shanley's conviction.[131]

Charles Jaynes was convicted of murdering a 10-year-old boy then having intercourse with his body in 1997;[132] the parents of the boy filed a $200 million wrongful death suit against NAMBLA, Curley v. NAMBLA, claiming that while being heterosexual, "immediately prior" to the murder, "Charles Jaynes accessed NAMBLA's Web site at the Boston Public Library".[133] By 2005, $1 million and five years had been spent to prove this claim.[134] The ACLU protested against associating NAMBLA with this case and represented them, asking the case to be dismissed.[135][136]

John David Smith, a San Francisco man convicted of sexually assaulting an 11-year-old boy he was babysitting, met an undercover investigator through his activities as a NAMBLA member. According to the investigator, Smith used his contacts with NAMBLA to trade child pornography and arrange sex with children.[124][137]

Johnathan Tampico was convicted of child molestation in 1989 and paroled in 1992 on condition of not possessing child pornography. After breaking his parole, he was found after a broadcast of America's Most Wanted. He was arrested and convicted on child pornography charges. In his sentencing, the court found that Tampico was a member of NAMBLA, that NAMBLA supported a foster home in Thailand that sexually exploited children, and that Tampico and others traveled to Thailand in order to have unlimited access to young boys at the foster home, as evidenced by a number of Polaroid pictures, provided by Thai officials, depicting Tampico with young Thai boys sitting on his lap.[138][139]

James C. Parker, a New York man who, according to court records, told the police that he was a member of NAMBLA, was arrested in 2000 and convicted in 2001 of committing sodomy with an underage boy.[140]

Criminal cases in relation to other pedophile activists

Tom O'Carroll, author of Pedophilia: a Radical Case and a founder of the Paedophile Information Exchange, admitted to two counts of distributing indecent images in September 2006, and in December 20, 2006, he was jailed for 2 1/2 years at London’s Middlesex Crown Court.[141] Whilst he admits to the illegal activity itself, O'Carroll defends his actions on an ethical basis.[142]

Ad van den Berg, co-founder and treasurer of the pro-pedophile Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid en Diversiteit political party in the Netherlands, was convicted of molesting an 11-year old boy in 1987. [143]

The late Edward Brongersma, a Dutch lawyer, politician and journalist was sent to jail in 1950, for 10 months after having sexual contacts with a male of around 17 years old. Upon his release, he successfully campaigned for a reduction in the legal age, which was first lowered to 16 and then to 12 (with parental consent and no objection from welfare).

See also

Abolition of age of consent laws
Age disparity in sexual relationships
Anti-pedophile activism
Child sexual abuse
Child sexuality
Chronophilia
Pedophilia
Sexual Morality and the Law
list of philias

Advocate groups

Danish Pedophile Association (or DPA Gruppe 04)
Dutch Society for Sexual Reform
Krumme 13
North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)
Paedophile Information Exchange
Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia
Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid & Diversiteit
Rene Guyon Society
Vereniging MARTIJN

Opponent groups

National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children
Nationale Alliantie
News of the World
Perverted-Justice
RAINN (Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network)[144]
Redwatch[145]
UN Special Rapporteur (child exploitation)
Stop Martijn[146]

Notes and references

Notes

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^ http://www.clinicalsocialwork.com/incest.html
^ http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28336
^ http://www.thestandard.com/article.php?story=20040227211153249
^ http://www.vachss.com/av_dispatches/parade_071402.html
^ http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=69831
^ http://anu.nfshost.com/2007/because-its-not-about-the-children
^ http://www.the-signal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=50916
^ http://www.glgarden.org/kalikokat/pacm_manifesto.htm Manifesto of Pedophiles Against Child Molestation (P.A.C.M.)
^ "The Case for Abolishing the Age of Consent Laws," an editorial from NAMBLA News (1980), reproduced in We Are Everywhere: A Historical Sourcebook of Gay and Lesbian Politics. Ed. by Mark Blasius and Shane Phelan. London: Routledge, 1997. pgs. 459-67.
^ DSM-IV-TR: Pedophilia BehaveNet.com
^ Jenkins, Philip. Pedophiles and Priests: Anatomy of a Contemporary Crisis. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1996. pg. 78: "Pedophile [as a word] implies coercion, exploitation, and even violence, so that to show any tolerance or sympathy for the condition is socially unacceptable."
^ Paglia, Camille. Sexual Personae: Art and Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1990. pg. 116.
^ http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf
^ Medical Library: Pedophilia
^ [http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf APA statement for the Diagnostic Criteria of Pedophilia
^ McCain, Robert Stacy. "Sex isn't just for adults anymore." Insight on the News. Vol. 18, Iss. 18 (May 20, 2002). pg. 27.
^ http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm
^ Brongersma, Edward (1988). "Schutzalter 12 Jahre? - Sex mit Kindern in der niederländischen Gesetzgebung ("Age of Consent 12 years? Dutch legislation on sex with children")", in Leopardi, Angelo: Der pädosexuelle Komplex ("On the topic of pedosexuality") (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 212. ISBN 3-922257-66-6.
^ http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/nambla.html
^ http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/bernard/publications.htm
^ a b c d e f g h i j k l Dr. Frits Bernard (Autumn 1987). "The Dutch Paedophile Emancipation Movement". Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia 1 (2).
^ a b c Hohmann, Joachim S.; Bernard, Frits (1980). in Hohmann, Joachim S.: Pädophilie heute ("Pedophilia today") (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 65. ISBN 3-922257-10-0.
^ a b c d Brongersma, Edward (1988). "Schutzalter 12 Jahre? - Sex mit Kindern in der niederländischen Gesetzgebung, ("Age of Consent 12 years? Dutch legislation on sex with children")", in Leopardi, Angelo: Der pädosexuelle Komplex ("On the topic of pedosexuality") (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 212. ISBN 3-922257-66-6.
^ Baurmann's criminological study published by the German Federal Criminal Police Office in 1983 (English translation of its original conclusions summary).
^ a b c d e Leopardi, Angelo; Bernard, Frits (1988). in Leopardi, Angelo: Der pädosexuelle Komplex ("On the topic of pedosexuality") (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 297ff. ISBN 3-922257-66-6.
^ a b c d Jan Schuijer (1990). "Tolerance at arm's length: The Dutch experience". Journal of Homosexuality 20: 218.
^ Theo Sandfort (1990). "Boy Relationships: Different Concepts for a Diversity of Phenomena". Journal of Homosexuality 20.
^ Pedophilia
^ a b c d e Bernard, Frits (1997). Pädophilie ohne Grenzen ("Anti-authoritarian pedophilia") (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 36. ISBN 3-922257-83-6.
^ Jenkins, Philip. Decade of Nightmares: The End of the Sixties and the Making of Eighties America. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2006. pg. 124.
^ Soto, "FBI Targets Pedophilia Advocates", San Diego Union-Tribune, Feb. 18, 2005.
^ Expulsion of organizations marked as pedophile from ILGA (HTML).
^ Vereniging Martijn (HTML).
^ Tremblay, Pierre. "Convergence Settings for Non-predatory 'Boy Lovers.'" Situational Prevention of Child Sexual Abuse (Crime Prevention Studies, vol. 19). Ed. by Richard Wortley and Stephen Smallbone. Monsey, NY: Criminal Justice Press, 2006. pgs. 145-68 (pg. 145).
^ Tremblay, pg. 156.
^ www.ipce.info/newsletters/nl_e_3.html
^ Tremblay, pg. 156.
^ Spilka, Mark, What Does Kincaid Want?, a review of James R. Kincaid's Child-Loving: The Erotic Child and Victorian Culture, page 1, retrieved May 24, 2007, example of use of term "child-love"
^ Forde, Patrick; Andrew Patterson (November 1988). "Paedophile Internet Activity". Trends And Issues In Crime And Criminal Justice (97). Australian Institute of Criminology. Retrieved on 2007-05-24. "For the purposes of this observation...."
^ Rencken, Robert (2000). Brief and Extended Interventions in Sexual Abuse. Second Edition.. Alexandria, VA, USA: American Counseling Association, 240.
^ http://www.greenbelt.com/news/98/12/02.htm
^ http://www.iin.oea.org/proy_trafico_ninos_internet/avances.2005.pdf
^ Gieles, Frans (1998). "I didn't know how to deal with it": Young people speak out about their sexual contacts with adults (HTML).
^ a b c d e MARTIJN (1982). MARTIJN: What we stand for (HTML).
^ Gieles, Frans (1998). "I didn't know how to deal with it": Young people speak out about their sexual contacts with adults (HTML).
^ Rossman, Parker (1976). A Boylove Code of Ethics (HTML). Sexual Experience Between Men and Boys.
^ "Sex is good for children - German ex-cop", IOL, September 30, 2003.
^ http://www.ag-paedo.de/fg-paedo/p17ahs.html
^ http://www.ipce.info/newsletters/nl_e_12/part_7.htm
^ http://www.ipce.info/newsletters/nl_e_12/part_6.htm
^ LifeLine is a real-time support chat.
^ http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=3&art_id=qw1064876580961B265&set_id=1
^ a b http://www.bkgirls.net/bkfaq.html
^ Patriquin, Martin (May 28, 2007), "A paradise for pedophiles: Montreal, it seems, is the place to be if you're attracted to children", Maclean's: 20-21, <http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20070528_105309_105309>
^ Seattle-Tacoma-Everett Girl Love retrieved May 26, 2007
^ http://www.ipce.info/newsletters/e_17/martijn.htm
^ http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2002/03/26/sharpe020326.html
^ A brief history of International BoyLove Day.
^ Alice Day.
^ Mirkin, Harris. "The Pattern of Sexual Politics: Feminism, Homosexuality and Pedophilia." Journal of Homosexuality, 37.2 (1999), pgs. 1-24.
^ Kaylor, Michael Matthew. Secreted Desires: The Major Uranians: Hopkins, Pater and Wilde. Brno, CZ: Masaryk University Press, 2006. pg. xi. (This volume appears as "full text" at books.google.com and is provided by Masaryk University as an open-access PDF at http://www.phil.muni.cz:8088/wkaa/w-publikace
^ McCain, pg. 27.
^ See also Anonymous. "Missouri legislature makes punitive budget cuts". Academe. Vol. 88, Iss. 5 (Sep/Oct 2002). pg. 10.
^ See also Louis Menand. "The talk of the town: Silly ideas." The New Yorker. Vol. 78, Iss. 11 (May 13, 2002). pg. 33
^ See also Some in mainstream contend certain cases of adult-minor sex should be acceptable Mark O'Keefe, Newhouse News Service (2002) See: David Smith
^ Geraci, J. (1994). Interview: Gilbert Herdt. Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia, 3 (2), 2-17.
^ O'Carroll, Tom. Paedophilia: The Radical Case - Chapter 8: 'Consent' and 'Willingness' (HTML).
^ http://www.narth.com/docs/denial.html
^ http://www.safet.net/info/index.html.
^ O'Carroll, Tom (1980). Chapter 9: Power and Equality (HTML). Paedophilia: The Radical Case.
^ http://www.mhamic.org/sources/sandfort.htm
^ Bauserman R. (1990). "Objectivity and Ideology: Criticism of Theo Sandfort's Research on Man-Boy Sexual Relations". Journal of Homosexuality 20 (1/2).
^ http://hfp.puellula.org/Manifesto.html
^ http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/BIB/pedophilia.htm
^ http://www.springerlink.com/content/x29808w856183157/
^ O'Carroll, Tom. Paedophilia - The Radical Case - Chapter 4: Paedophilia in Action (HTML).
^ http://www.cerius.org/child/index.htm
^ Brongersma, Edward (1988). "Schutzalter 12 Jahre? - Sex mit Kindern in der niederländischen Gesetzgebung ("Age of Consent 12 years? Dutch legislation on sex with children")", in Leopardi, Angelo: Der pädosexuelle Komplex ("On the topic of pedosexuality") (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 210. ISBN 3-922257-66-6.
^ Mirkin, Harris. "The Pattern of Sexual Politics: Feminism, Homosexuality and Pedophilia." Journal of Homosexuality. 37.2 (1999), 1-24.
^ http://home.wanadoo.nl/ipce/library_two/files/paglia_guide.htm
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External links

Debate Guide - "Arguments and counter arguments for the sexual emancipation of minors and minor attracted adults"
Paedophilia - The Radical Case - Book by Tom O'Carroll
Age Taboo - "The place for young guys who like younger guys"
Clogo - A series of pro activist projects
"Boylove: Semantically Correct?" - An article critical of Pro-pedophile activism
Corporate Sex Offenders - A campaign against online services that tolerate Pro-pedophile activism

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Pro-pedophile activism or Pro-paedophile activism (Commonwealth usage) encompasses pro-<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pedophilia" title="Pedophilia">pedophile</a>
organizations and activists that argue for certain changes of criminal
laws and cultural response in order to allow pedophiles to <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_sexual_abuse" title="Child sexual abuse">sexually abuse</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-0" title="">[1]</a> children<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-1" title="">[2]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-2" title="">[3]</a>. The obverse movement is <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Anti-pedophile_activism" title="Anti-pedophile activism">anti-pedophile activism</a>, which aims to protect children from predatory pedophiles<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-3" title="">[4]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-4" title="">[5]</a>.
Goals of pro-pedophile activism also include removing the legal
protection parents have to prevent their children falling into the hands
of pedophiles<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-5" title="">[6]</a>, social acceptance of <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Adult" title="Adult">adults'</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Sexual_attraction" title="Sexual attraction">sexual attraction</a> to <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child" title="Child">children</a>, social acceptance of <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Sexual_activity" title="Sexual activity">sexual activity</a> between adults and children, and changes in institutions of concern to pedophiles, such as <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Abolition_of_age_of_consent_laws" title="Abolition of age of consent laws">changing age of consent laws</a> or mental illness classifications.[<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a>]Some pro-pedophile groups are involved in opposing vigilante groups that target anyone with a sexual attraction to children.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-6" title="">[7]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-7" title="">[8]</a> 
Some pro-pedophile activists advocate social acceptance of what they consider to be adult romantic love <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-8" title="">[9]</a>
and sexual attraction to minors, as well as the legalization of what
they believe to be non-abusive and mutually consenting adult-minor
sexual activity, activity that is currently defined in most legal
contexts as child sexual abuse. Other goals of pro-pedophile activism
may, but do not necessarily, include the redefinition of contemporary
authority relations between adults and minors, and the changing of
institutions of concern to pedophiles, such as <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Age_of_consent" title="Age of consent">age of consent</a> laws and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Mental_disorder" title="Mental disorder">mental disorder</a> classifications.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-9" title="">[10]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-10" title="">[11]</a> <div style="background-color: orange;">
Increasing public focus and disapproval of pedophilia has motivated
more stringent legislation and stricter criminal penalties regarding <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_pornography" title="Child pornography">child pornography</a>, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_sexual_abuse" title="Child sexual abuse">child sexual abuse</a>, and the use of the internet to facilitate these activities.[<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a>]
To consider pro-pedophile activism as a valid political or civil rights
activist movement is also unpopular. The movement faces virulent
opposition. <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-11" title="">[12]</a>
Camille Paglia said, "These days, especially in America, boy-love is
not only scandalous and criminal but somehow in bad taste."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-12" title="">[13]</a></div>
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Contents</h2></div><ul><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Medical_definitions_of_pedophilia">1Medical definitions of pedophilia</a></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Legal_status_of_sexual_activity_between_adults_and_children">2Legal status of sexual activity between adults and children</a></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#History">3History</a><ul><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Early_developments">3.1Early developments</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Publishing_of_Sex_met_kinderen">3.2Publishing of Sex met kinderen</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#1979_Dutch_petition">3.31979 Dutch petition</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Decline_of_the_movement">3.4Decline of the movement</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Recent_developments">3.5Recent developments</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Terminology_and_symbols_used_by_the_movement">3.6Terminology and symbols used by the movement</a><ul><li class="toclevel-3"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Terminology_used_by_the_movement">3.6.1Terminology used by the movement</a></li><li class="toclevel-3"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Symbols_used_by_the_movement">3.6.2Symbols used by the movement</a></li></ul></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Ethics_proposed_by_the_movement">3.7Ethics proposed by the movement</a></li></ul></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Activities">4Activities</a></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Perspectives_of_pro-pedophile_activists">5Perspectives of pro-pedophile activists</a><ul><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Harris_Mirkin">5.1Harris Mirkin</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Study_by_Mary_de_Young">5.2Study by Mary de Young</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Other_pro-pedophilia_views">5.3Other pro-pedophilia views</a></li></ul></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Scientific_claims">6Scientific claims</a><ul><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Questioning_assumptions_about_pedophiles">6.1Questioning assumptions about pedophiles</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Re-categorization_of_data">6.2Re-categorization of data</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#.22Socially_Representative.22_sampling_and_change_in_ethos">6.3"Socially Representative" sampling and change in ethos</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Other_papers_supporting_some_activist_opinions">6.4Other papers supporting some activist opinions</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Rind_et_al._controversy">6.5Rind et al. controversy</a></li></ul></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Controversy_and_public_reaction_to_the_movement">7Controversy and public reaction to the movement</a><ul><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Criticism_of_the_movement">7.1Criticism of the movement</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Skepticism_that_the_movement_does_not_support_child_abuse">7.2Skepticism that the movement does not support child abuse</a><ul><li class="toclevel-3"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Child_abuse_cases_in_relation_to_members_of_NAMBLA">7.2.1Child abuse cases in relation to members of NAMBLA</a></li><li class="toclevel-3"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Criminal_cases_in_relation_to_other_pedophile_activists">7.2.2Criminal cases in relation to other pedophile activists</a></li></ul></li></ul></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#See_also">8See also</a><ul><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Advocate_groups">8.1Advocate groups</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Opponent_groups">8.2Opponent groups</a></li></ul></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Notes_and_references">9Notes and references</a><ul><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#Notes">9.1Notes</a></li><li class="toclevel-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#References">9.2References</a></li></ul></li><li class="toclevel-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#External_links">10External links</a></li></ul>
|}<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Medical_definitions_of_pedophilia" name="Medical_definitions_of_pedophilia"></a> <h2>Medical definitions of pedophilia</h2>
The <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/ICD-10" title="ICD-10">ICD-10</a>, an international classification of diseases published by the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/World_Health_Organization" title="World Health Organization">World Health Organization</a>, lists pedophilia as a <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Paraphilia" title="Paraphilia">paraphilia</a>, and refers to the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders" title="Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders">Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders</a> (DSM), mentioned below, for its definition. 
The <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/American_Psychiatric_Association" title="American Psychiatric Association">American Psychiatric Association</a>
(APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth
Edition Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR), describes pedophilia as a paraphilia.
<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-13" title="">[14]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-14" title="">[15]</a> The diagnosis criteria for Pedophilia are: 
A. Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent, intense sexually
arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity
with a prepubescent child or children (generally age 13 years or
younger); 
B. The person has acted on these sexual urges, or the sexual urges or
fantasies cause marked distress or interpersonal difficulty; 
C. The person is at least age 16 years and at least 5 years older than the child or children in criterion A. 
In addition, the APA released a statement in 2003 regarding the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia: <blockquote class="toccolours" style="display: table; float: none; padding: 10px 15px 10px 15px;">
The DSM is the standard classification of mental disorders used by
mental health professionals and provides clear, objective descriptions
of mental illnesses, based upon scientific research. Pedophilia is
categorized in the DSM-IV-TR as one of several paraphilic mental
disorders. The essential features of a Paraphilia are recurrent, intense
sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors that generally
involve nonhuman subjects, children, or other nonconsenting adults, or
the suffering or humiliation of oneself or one’s partner. 
An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a
criminal and immoral act and this is never considered normal or socially
acceptable behavior. Darrel A. Regier, M.D., M.P.H., Director, American
Psychiatric Association’s Division of Research states, “there are no
plans or processes set up that would lead to the removal of the
Paraphilias from their consideration as legitimate mental disorders.”<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-15" title="">[16]</a></blockquote><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Legal_status_of_sexual_activity_between_adults_and_children" name="Legal_status_of_sexual_activity_between_adults_and_children"></a> <h2>Legal status of sexual activity between adults and children</h2>
The age of consent varies from country to country, but no country's age of consent is below 12. <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="History" name="History"></a> <h2>History</h2>
Regarding the foundation of positions that in some ways mirror later pro-pedophile activism, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Robert_Stacy_McCain" title="Robert Stacy McCain">Robert Stacy McCain</a>
writes: "Academic defenses of sex between adults and children date back
at least to Alfred Kinsey's famous 1948 and 1952 reports on human
sexuality, in which the Indiana University professor claimed that
'children are sexual from birth.' Critics say that pro-pedophilia
activism cannot be dismissed as an irrelevant fringe movement because it
has real-life consequences."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-16" title="">[17]</a> In the 1970s, the movement established itself in continental <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Western_Europe" title="Western Europe">Western Europe</a>, particularly in the Netherlands.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-17" title="">[18]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-18" title="">[19]</a> At that time the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association" title="North American Man/Boy Love Association">North American Man/Boy Love Association</a> was also a leading gay youth and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pederasty" title="Pederasty">pederast</a> rights activist group.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-19" title="">[20]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Early_developments" name="Early_developments"></a> <h3>Early developments</h3>
Psychologist and sexologist Dr. <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Frits_Bernard" title="Frits Bernard">Frits Bernard</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-20" title="">[21]</a> has stated that he and others formed the Enclave kring ("Enclave circle") in <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/The_Hague" title="The Hague">The Hague</a>, the Netherlands in the 1950s.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> They built upon pre-1940 member information of the surviving Dutch branch of German <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Magnus_Hirschfeld" title="Magnus Hirschfeld">Magnus Hirschfeld</a>'s sexologist Wissenschaftlich-Humanitäres Komitee (WHK) (<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Scientific-Humanitarian_Committee" title="Scientific-Humanitarian Committee">Scientific-Humanitarian Committee</a>) provided by former WHK member Arent von Santhorst (see interview with Bernard led by ethnologist and political scientist Dr. Joachim S. Hohmann).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-hohmann" title="">[23]</a> Bernard, through this Dutch WHK connection, built upon contacts he had established in 1940 for the same purpose with Dutch WHK president, donzel Dr. J. A. Schorer and sexologist Dr. Benno Premsela. Bernard apparently was aware that the German WHK along with its international organization <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft" title="Institut für Sexualwissenschaft">Institut für Sexualwissenschaft</a>, ("Institute for Sexuology"), had published articles on adult-minor sexual interactions prior to 1933.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> However the German invasion of the Netherlands in 1940 prevented any further co-operation until the end of <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/World_War_II" title="World War II">World War II</a>.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a>One of the very first German occupation regulations in the Netherlands
was public declaration of enforcement of German Penal Code sections 175
regarding same-sex activities and 176 regarding adult-child sex
interactions in Verordnungsblatt Nr. 81 dating July 31st 1940.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-brongersma" title="">[24]</a>WHK members von Santhorst and Bob Angelo (alias Niek Engelschman, later a pedophile activist) had destroyed all Dutch WHK documents to prevent Nazi investigations,<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-hohmann" title="">[23]</a> and member information was re-constructed after the war by von Santhorst in order to form the Enclave kring.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-hohmann" title="">[23]</a> 
The Enclave kring, as built upon the pre-war Dutch WHK model, defined itself as a "movement" consisting of "institutions and organizations"<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a>
serving purposes such as: "to break down prejudice about the issues of
erotic contacts and relationships between minors and adults, and to
provide information and advice as well as to initiate a direct
assistance program."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a>A publishing company of the same name serving these purposes was founded in 1958.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> According to Bernard,<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> the Enclave kring
developed into an international organization (gaining support in
Western Europe, New York, Japan, and Hong Kong), and Bernard himself
made lecture tours in some of these places.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> Results of these efforts of the Enclave kring included more positive feedback about pedophile activism in various publications independent from the Enclave kring such as the Dutch Vriendschap ("Friendship", published since 1859), German Der Weg zu Freundschaft und Toleranz ("A way to friendship and tolerance"), Danish Amigo, and Dutch Verstandig Ouderschap ("Reasonable parenthood") by the 1960s.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Publishing_of_Sex_met_kinderen" name="Publishing_of_Sex_met_kinderen"></a> <h3>Publishing of Sex met kinderen</h3>
In 1972, Bernard published the book Sex met kinderen ("Sex with children", published not by the Enclave kring but the independent Dutch sexual reform organisation NVSH).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> The book outlined the history of the Enclave kring and international research in adult-child sexual interaction, partly spurred by the activism of the Enclave kring, partly independent from it, up to that point. According to Bernard citing historian Dr. E. O. Born, this book "had an [public] effect throughout Europe and abroad."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a> It laid the foundation for the 1970s pedophile activism movement in Western Europe.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-dutch" title="">[22]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-21" title="">[25]</a> 
In the 1970s, most organized pedophile activity was centered in the
Netherlands and to a lesser degree in Western Europe. Here, a number of
researchers, among them Bernard, social psychologist Theo Sandfort,
lawyer and politician <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Edward_Brongersma" title="Edward Brongersma">Edward Brongersma</a>
and psychiatrist Frans Gieles, wrote a significant number of papers on
the topic, both from theoretical and practical standpoints. A number of
papers were produced discussing the effects of adult-child sexual
interactions. The data for these papers came mainly from analyzing
pedophiles, but also from adults and young people who, as children or <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Adolescence" title="Adolescence">adolescents</a>, had been involved in sexual relationships with adults. In a 1988 interview,<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-leopardi" title="">[26]</a>
Bernard said that up to that point he himself as part of his
psychological work, and also as an authorized expert witness in a number
of court cases, had talked to and analyzed "more than a thousand
pedophile adults and about three-thousand children and adolescents who
had had [sexual] contacts with adults." <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" name="1979_Dutch_petition"></a> <h3>1979 Dutch petition</h3>
On <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/June_22" title="June 22">June 22</a>, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/1979" title="1979">1979</a>,
a petition along with a letter with the same content was sent to the
Dutch minister of justice and simultaneously was brought before the
Dutch parliament, both petition and letter demanding legalization of
mutual sexual activities between children and pedophile adults. 
The petition was authored by the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Dutch_Society_for_Sexual_Reform" title="Dutch Society for Sexual Reform">Dutch Society for Sexual Reform</a> (NVSH), the Coornhert League for Penal Law Reform, the Humanitarian Confederation, and "radio priest" Alje Klamer. It was signed by social welfare and public mental health organizations such as the General Probation Association, the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/COC_Nederland" title="COC Nederland">Netherlands Association for the Integration of Homosexuality (COC)</a>, and the official Netherlands Feminism Association.
The petition also achieved considerable success within the Dutch
parliament, being endorsed unanimously by the executives of the ruling <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Labour_Party_%28Netherlands%29" title="Labour Party (Netherlands)">Labour Party</a> as well as the executives of four minority parties in the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Tweede_Kamer" title="Tweede Kamer">Dutch Lower House</a> (the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Democratisch_Socialisten_%2770" title="Democratisch Socialisten '70">Democratic Socialist party</a>, the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pacifistisch-Socialistische_Partij" title="Pacifistisch-Socialistische Partij">Pacifist Socialist party</a>, the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Democrats_66" title="Democrats 66">Democratic party</a>, and the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Politieke_Partij_Radicalen" title="Politieke Partij Radicalen">Radical party</a>).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-brongersma" title="">[24]</a> 
The section of child and youth psychiatry of The Netherlands Society for Psychiatry,
as Jan Schuijer wrote, was "apparently alarmed by the success of the
petition," and publicly opposed the demands for decriminalization
claiming it would undermine parental authority.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-tolerance" title="">[27]</a> 
In 1980, the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/COC_Nederland" title="COC Nederland">COC</a>, the largest gay association in the Netherlands, publicly declared pedophilia a gay issue,<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-22" title="">[28]</a>
and declared further that gay liberation would never be complete
without the sexual liberation of children and pedophiles. From 1979
through 1981, the last positive progress of pedophile activism in the
Western world was achieved when the Dutch Protestant Foundation for Responsible Family Development (PSVG) sold and distributed tens of thousands of copies of a booklet entitled Pedophilia<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-23" title="">[29]</a> (originally illustrated with photos) in and to Dutch elementary schools.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-grenzen" title="">[30]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Decline_of_the_movement" name="Decline_of_the_movement"></a> <h3>Decline of the movement</h3><div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width: 151px;"> <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify" style="float: right;"><a class="internal" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:magnify-clip.png" title="Enlarge"><img alt="" src="http://www.search.com/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png" height="11" width="15"></a></div>
A 1980 PIE sticker.</div></div></div>
In the late 1970s, the center of activity briefly shifted to the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/United_States" title="United States">United States</a> and the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom">United Kingdom</a> with the 1974 formation of the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Paedophile_Information_Exchange" title="Paedophile Information Exchange">Paedophile Information Exchange</a> (PIE) in <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Scotland" title="Scotland">Scotland</a> (later based in <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/London" title="London">London</a>), and the 1978 formation of the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association" title="North American Man/Boy Love Association">North American Man/Boy Love Association</a> (NAMBLA) in <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Boston" title="Boston">Boston</a>:
"In 1978, the Boston protests spawned an authentic pedophile activist
movement, the North American Man-Boy Love Association [...] NAMBLA
claimed to be in the tradition of an earlier gay rights movement, the
Mattachine Society, which had been intolerably controversial in its day
but was now seen as an honored forerunner of mainstream gay activism."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-24" title="">[31]</a>
Both of these groups achieved relative notoriety in the early 1980s due
to a public outcry against them. In an aforementioned 1988 interview,
Bernard credited this to severely aggressive and radical behaviour of
pedophile activism outside of continental Europe, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-leopardi" title="">[26]</a> while on the other hand stating his regret of what he called significant ignorance in sexual matters in general in the US.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-leopardi" title="">[26]</a>
The PIE capitulated to public pressure and disbanded in 1985, however
NAMBLA continued to exist. A 2005 newspaper article quoted an undercover
police officer as saying that, in 1995, NAMBLA had about 1,100 members.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-25" title="">[32]</a> <div style="background-color: orange;">On <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/February_5" title="February 5">February 5</a>, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/1987" title="1987">1987</a>, Bernard appeared as a guest on the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Phil_Donahue" title="Phil Donahue">Phil Donahue</a>
show and advocated pedophile activism, accompanied by a 23-year-old
male who had allegedly been involved in a sexual relationship with an
adult as a child.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-leopardi" title="">[26]</a></div>
In the 1980s, a number of other pedophile advocacy groups formed including <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/MARTIJN" title="MARTIJN">MARTIJN</a> (1982), situated in the Netherlands, and the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Danish_Pedophile_Association" title="Danish Pedophile Association">Danish Pedophile Association</a>
(DPA) (1985). This was followed in the early 1990s by the formation of
Ipce (then the "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation," IPCE),
an umbrella organization for pedophile activist groups. Although MARTIJN
and Ipce continued to function, DPA disbanded in early 2004. 
Post-1982, the objections to pro-pedophile activism in continental
Western Europe did not appear as heated as in English-speaking
countries. Formerly active pro-pedophilia organizations did not get
significant or memorable negative public press, but just seemed to lose
interest in maintaining their public activities any longer. For the most
part, the issue retreated from public awareness. Bernard (born in 1920)
retired from his occupation as a psychologist, as an expert witness,
and from all of his offices in international organizations in 1985.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-leopardi" title="">[26]</a>
Even earlier, the number of NVSH members drastically decreased to below
10,000 (at times it had had up to 240,000 members) yielding a serious
financial crisis.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-grenzen" title="">[30]</a> 
Meanwhile, law enforcement's efforts to combat child pornography and
sexual contact with minors became more aggressive. In the Netherlands,
emerging feminist and victim organizations as well as juvenile police
units still supported decriminalization as of 1982 <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-tolerance" title="">[27]</a>.
However, Dutch police (such as Hans Heesters of the Amsterdam police's
youth and moral bureau) and law officials were increasingly educated by
the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/FBI" title="FBI">FBI</a> on "FBI methods of tracking down the makers and collectors of <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_pornography" title="Child pornography">child pornography</a>" (virtually and effectively "guidelines [that] target those who engage in sexual contacts with underage minors").<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-tolerance" title="">[27]</a>
In 1989, then-resident Dutch minister of justice Korthals Althes
publicly stated that weekly meetings on these matters with the FBI and
British government had been established in 1985.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-grenzen" title="">[30]</a> Beginning in 1984, the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/US_Congress" title="US Congress">US Congress</a> and the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/US_Senate" title="US Senate">US Senate</a> (via the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Permanent_Subcommittee_on_Investigations" title="Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations">Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations</a> of the Committee on Governmental Affairs, led at that time by Republican <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/William_Roth" title="William Roth">William Roth</a>)
disseminated information through US and international press channels
accusing the Netherlands of ranking "among the most important exporters
of child pornography to the US" and stating that children were publicly
auctioned in Amsterdam for <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Prostitution" title="Prostitution">prostitution</a> and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pornography" title="Pornography">pornography</a>. An investigation entitled Workgroup child-pornography,
established by minister of justice Althas and published in August 1986,
questioned the extent of these accusations, ultimately declaring them
"unsustainable."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-tolerance" title="">[27]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-grenzen" title="">[30]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Recent_developments" name="Recent_developments"></a> <h3>Recent developments</h3>
After the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/International_Lesbian_and_Gay_Association" title="International Lesbian and Gay Association">International Lesbian and Gay Association</a> was granted consultative member status within the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/United_Nations" title="United Nations">United Nations</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Economic_and_Social_Council" title="Economic and Social Council">Economic and Social Council</a> in 1994, the United States (including President <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Bill_Clinton" title="Bill Clinton">Bill Clinton</a>) publicly threatened to cancel its annual financial contributions of US$1 Million to the UN because ILGA had four pronouncedly pedophile activist member groups: NAMBLA, MARTIJN, US-based Project TRUTH, and German Verein für Sexuelle Gleichberechtigung (VSG, "Association for Sexual Equality"). As a result, the UN status of ILGA was suspended and ILGA expelled all four organizations. The German Bundesverband Homosexualität (BVH, "National Homosexuality Association") called for international protests on ILGA for expelling these groups, in spite of the fact that BVH never before had been observed as sympathizing with pedophile activism.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-26" title="">[33]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-27" title="">[34]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-grenzen" title="">[30]</a> 
In the coming years, pro-pedophile advocacy began to make use of the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Internet" title="Internet">Internet</a>:
"For socially isolated pedophiles, the search for 'human companionship'
was a salient concern, and Internet technology provided a virtual
solution to the absence of physical convergence settings."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-28" title="">[35]</a> This use of the Internet as a space for advocacy and as a "convergence setting" began with the establishment in 1995 of BoyChat,
a message board for "boylovers." In 1997, participants on BoyChat and
other online resources formed Free Spirits, an umbrella organization
with the mission of raising money and providing Internet hosting
services: "Web sites such as Free Spirits can be viewed as 'convergence
settings' in the sense that they provide structure and continuity in
[the] face of any given individual, group or network instabilities."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-29" title="">[36]</a> Ipce (formerly "International Pedophile and Child Emancipation"<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-30" title="">[37]</a>) is a leading activist site. The <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Montreal" title="Montreal">Montreal</a> Ganymede Collective was formed in Montreal by Free Spirits members in 1998 as a forum for pedophiles to meet in the real world.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-31" title="">[38]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Terminology_and_symbols_used_by_the_movement" name="Terminology_and_symbols_used_by_the_movement"></a> <h3>Terminology and symbols used by the movement</h3><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Terminology_used_by_the_movement" name="Terminology_used_by_the_movement"></a> <h4>Terminology used by the movement</h4><ul><li>Child-lover, Boy-lover, Girl-lover. These are terms of self-identifications used by pedophiles.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-32" title="">[39]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-33" title="">[40]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Pedosexual. Some members of the movement use the term pedosexual,
positing that pedophilia should be seen as a distinct sexual
orientation as with homosexuality and heterosexuality. It has also been
used simply as a synonym for pedophile.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-34" title="">[41]</a></li></ul><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Symbols_used_by_the_movement" name="Symbols_used_by_the_movement"></a> <h4>Symbols used by the movement</h4><div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width: 82px;"><a class="image" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GLogo.png" title="GLogo - Symbol of Girllove"><img alt="GLogo - Symbol of Girllove" class="thumbimage" src="http://img.search.com/thumb/f/fa/GLogo.png/80px-GLogo.png" border="0" height="71" width="80"></a> <div class="thumbcaption"><div class="magnify" style="float: right;"><a class="internal" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:magnify-clip.png" title="Enlarge"><img alt="" src="http://www.search.com/skins-1.5/common/images/magnify-clip.png" height="11" width="15"></a></div>
GLogo - Symbol of Girllove</div></div></div><ul><li>A blue spiral-shaped triangle symbol, or "BLogo", symbolizes a boy (small triangle) surrounded by an older male (larger triangle).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-35" title="">[42]</a> It was designed by an anonymous artist with the pseudonym "Kalos".<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-36" title="">[43]</a></li></ul><ul><li>A similar logo, a heart within a heart, or "GLogo" was later developed by some pedophiles attracted to girls to symbolize a "bond of love" between adults and girls.[<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a>]</li></ul><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Ethics_proposed_by_the_movement" name="Ethics_proposed_by_the_movement"></a> <h3>Ethics proposed by the movement</h3>
Some pedophile activists have proposed <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Ethics" title="Ethics">ethical</a> frameworks for sexual interaction with children.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-37" title="">[44]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-martijn" title="">[45]</a>
Such frameworks stress the consent of the child, their ability to
withdraw from the relationship, and having open, rather than secret
relationships, as key factors.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-38" title="">[46]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-martijn" title="">[45]</a> 
Some[<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_words" title="Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words">who?</a>]
of the people involved in these efforts believe that such ethical
guidelines can only work in jurisdictions where adult–child sex is legal
and therefore do not address the ethical issues of having an illegal
relationship with a minor.[<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a>] Instead, illegal activity is discouraged, such as in the Boylove Code of Ethics<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-rossman" title="">[47]</a>
which states that a pedophile should "do everything possible to protect
his young friend from any harm, including exposure or embarrassment
from arrest". MARTIJN's statement is unequivocal: "MARTIJN Association
advises everyone to observe the law."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-martijn" title="">[45]</a> <div style="background-color: orange;">Not all groups associated with the movement support these ethical boundaries. For example, the group Krumme 13 ("Crooked 13")<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-iol" title="">[48]</a> counseled convicted child-molesters to continue their activities once released. According to German AG Pädo<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-39" title="">[49]</a> and IOCE,<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-40" title="">[50]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-41" title="">[51]</a>
two other pedophile activist groups, Krumme 13's jailed leader was not
trusted in the pedophile community, and the group was detrimental to the
pedophile movement.</div><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Activities" name="Activities"></a> <h2>Activities</h2><div class="thumb tright"><div class="thumbinner" style="width: 182px;"><a class="new" href="http://www.search.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=K13-Aufkleber.jpg" title="Image:K13-Aufkleber.jpg">Image:K13-Aufkleber.jpg</a> <div class="thumbcaption">
Krumme 13 logo</div></div></div>
Some pro-pedophile activists attempt to create a culture of support
to pedophiles who are afraid to discuss their attractions for fear of
being <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Criminalization" title="Criminalization">criminalized</a> and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Ostracism" title="Ostracism">ostracized</a>. To this end, some pro-pedophile organizations provide online <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Counseling" title="Counseling">counseling</a> and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Suicide_prevention" title="Suicide prevention">suicide prevention</a> services.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-freespirits" title="">[52]</a> Organizations, like the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Krumme_13" title="Krumme 13">Krumme 13</a>, have been accused of encouraging pedophiles to act out their desires, thus break laws regarding <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_sexual_abuse" title="Child sexual abuse">child sexual abuse</a> and the legal <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Age_of_Consent" title="Age of Consent">Age of Consent</a>.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-42" title="">[53]</a> Other organizations strongly encourage others to take care in not breaking local laws.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-martijn" title="">[45]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-bkgirls" title="">[54]</a> 
Much online pedophile activism takes place on message boards, the most prominent ones being based in <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Montreal,_Canada" title="Montreal, Canada">Montreal, Canada</a>.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-43" title="">[55]</a> Some pedophile activists now have <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Blog" title="Blog">blogs</a>.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-stegle" title="">[56]</a> Many of these blogs, especially those at blogger (owned by <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Google" title="Google">Google</a>) have been removed for alleged <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Terms_of_Service" title="Terms of Service">Terms of Service</a> violations.[<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a>] <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/MARTIJN" title="MARTIJN">MARTIJN</a>, as well as publishing a magazine called OK
and providing support for pedophiles, is also involved in overt
activism, distributing flyers and pamphlets at public gatherings and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Gay_pride" title="Gay pride">gay pride</a> marches.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-44" title="">[57]</a> <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Robin_Sharpe" title="Robin Sharpe">Robin Sharpe</a>, a <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Canada" title="Canada">Canadian</a> pedophile, successfully challenged some aspects of child pornography laws in the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Canadian_Supreme_Court" title="Canadian Supreme Court">Canadian Supreme Court</a> in 2002, arguing that his fictional writings were not illegal because they had artistic merit.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-45" title="">[58]</a> <div style="background-color: orange;">Various groups also promote "holidays" intended to spread
understanding and acceptance of pedophilia. International Boylove Day
occurs on the first Saturday after the summer <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Solstice" title="Solstice">solstice</a> and some people also celebrate on the first Saturday after the winter solstice.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-ibld" title="">[59]</a> Alice Day is celebrated by female-attracted pedophiles, on <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/April_25" title="April 25">April 25</a>.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-yani" title="">[60]</a> This is the day <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Lewis_Carroll" title="Lewis Carroll">Lewis Carroll</a> met <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Alice_Liddell" title="Alice Liddell">Alice Liddell</a>, the girl for whom he wrote <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland" title="Alice's Adventures in Wonderland">Alice's Adventures in Wonderland</a>, on <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/April_25" title="April 25">April 25</a>, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/1856" title="1856">1856</a>.</div><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Perspectives_of_pro-pedophile_activists" name="Perspectives_of_pro-pedophile_activists"></a> <h2>Perspectives of pro-pedophile activists</h2><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Harris_Mirkin" name="Harris_Mirkin"></a> <h3>Harris Mirkin</h3>
In his article "The Pattern of Sexual Politics: Feminism, Homosexuality and Pedophilia,"<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-46" title="">[61]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Harris_Mirkin" title="Harris Mirkin">Harris Mirkin</a>,
Associate Professor and Chair of Political Science at the University of
Missouri, Kansas City, asserts that the refusal to even consider the
possibility that pro-pedophile activism could be considered a valid
political or civil rights activist movement is partly a politicized act
meant to preclude any examination of the arguments put forth by
pro-pedophile activists. His argument has been summarized as follows: <blockquote class="toccolours" style="display: table; float: none; padding: 10px 15px 10px 15px;">
According to [Mirkin's analysis of the general pattern of sexual
politics,] "battles about sexual ideologies occur in two phases," the
first of which is a period of "pre-debate" in which the struggle exists
"before the issues become politically visible." [...] Mirkin asserts
that, in this "pre-debate" phase, material evidence and formulated
arguments are "harder to detect," because "dominant groups deny that
there is anything to discuss, asserting that existing arrangements are
self-evident and intuitively good." The second phase, on the other hand,
involves "a visible political fight." "The battle to prevent the
battle," according to Mirkin, "is probably the most significant and hard
fought of the ideological battles. At issue is the question of the
legitimacy of the subordinate groups, since illegitimate groups are not
recognized as putting forth valid claims." The mechanisms employed to
"prevent the battle" require that "sexual dissidents (deviants) are not
heard by the dominant society," a refusal to hear that is tied to the
fact that, during the first phase, "sexual issues are not viewed as
legal conflicts. Sex is viewed as separate from politics, and the
deviant group is not seen as being entitled to legal or political
rights." Because of this, the legal system "rarely challenges the
dominant ideology [...] and does not protect deviant sexual speech and
action." Such a legal stance allows for "sharp limits [to be] placed on
[the deviant group's] speech and art on the grounds that they are
disgusting, pornographic, dangerous to the social order and seductive of
the innocent". In essence, such "deviants" are refused the very
mechanisms of speech — whether those involve words or images — for the
only legitimate form that such speech can take is that which affirms
"the correctness of the dominant paradigm, demonizing and ridiculing
those who question it and trivializing their arguments."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-47" title="">[62]</a></blockquote>
Mirkin's article has drawn criticism, primarily for its resemblance to an <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Apologia" title="Apologia">apologia</a>: <blockquote class="toccolours" style="display: table; float: none; padding: 10px 15px 10px 15px;">
Intellectual defenses of pedophilia [such as Mirkin's (considered
directly before these statements in this article)] are "a huge concern"
because they can function as "a green light" to would-be child
molesters, says Claire Reeves, president and founder of Mothers Against
Sexual Abuse (MASA). "Adults who might have a propensity to hurt a child
might say, 'See, it's not harmful. These people are Ph.D.s, they must
know,'" Reeves says, adding that she began warning about the pedophilia
movement in 1995.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-48" title="">[63]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-49" title="">[64]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-50" title="">[65]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-51" title="">[66]</a></blockquote><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Study_by_Mary_de_Young" name="Study_by_Mary_de_Young"></a> <h3>Study by Mary de Young</h3>
In 1989, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Sociologist" title="Sociologist">sociologist</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Mary_de_Young" title="Mary de Young">Mary de Young</a>
reviewed the literature published by pedophile organizations for public
dissemination. She found that pedophile organizations she studied used
the following strategies to promote public acceptance of pedophilia or
the legalization of adult-child sex: <ul><li>Adoption of value-neutral terminology. According to Herdt, an
anthropologist who has studied sex between adults and children in other
cultures, pedophile advocates should replace "dull and reductionistic"
terms like pedophilia and abuse when discussing sex between "a person
who has not achieved adulthood and one who has". Moreover, words like
"child" or "childhood", which have <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Developmental_psychology" title="Developmental psychology">psychologically developmental</a> meaning, should be "resisted at all costs".<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-52" title="">[67]</a> See also Promoting "objective" research.</li></ul><ul><li>Redefining the term child sexual abuse. Another recurring
theme among those seeking to gain social acceptance for pedophilia is
the need to redefine or restrict the usage of the term "child sexual
abuse", recommending a child's "willing encounter with positive
reactions" be called "adult-child sex" instead of "abuse" (<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Rind_et_al" title="Rind et al">Rind et al</a>.
1998). For example, Gerald Jones (1990), an Affiliated Scholar at the
Institute for the Study of Women and Men in Society at the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/University_of_Southern_California" title="University of Southern California">University of Southern California</a>,
suggested that "intergenerational intimacy" should not be considered
synonymous with child sexual abuse. According to Jones, the "crucial
difference has to do with mutuality and control" (p. 278). Jones
suggested, "Intergenerational attraction on the part of some adults
could constitute a lifestyle 'orientation', rather than a pathological
maladjustment" (p. 288).</li></ul><ul><li>Promoting the idea that children can consent to sexual activity with adults.
The reconceptualization of children as willing sexual participants
along with the decriminalization of consensual sexual relations is
perhaps the key change sought by pedophile advocates. In his book Paedophilia: The Radical Case, activist <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Tom_O%27Carroll" title="Tom O'Carroll">Tom O'Carroll</a>
claims "What there most definitely needs to be [in determining consent]
is the child's willingness to take part in the activity in question;
whatever social or legal rules are operated, they must not be such as to
allow unwilling children to be subjected to sexual acts. But there is
no need whatever for a child to know 'the consequences' of engaging in
harmless sex play, simply because it is exactly that: harmless."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-ocarroll3" title="">[68]</a> Many other pedophile activists, amongst them David Riegel, Frans Gieles and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Lindsay_Ashford" title="Lindsay Ashford">Lindsay Ashford</a>, actively campaign against the idea that children are unable to consent to <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Sex" title="Sex">sex</a>.</li></ul><ul><li>Questioning the assumption of harm. The most common stance
against child-adult sex is the assumption that it causes psychological
harm to the minor. This claim is taken as true at face value, and any
criticism about it is taken as a defense of pedophile activity. This
remains to be one of the biggest barriers against pedophile activism,
and advocates of pedophilia have attempted to change these barriers in a
variety of ways. For example, pedophile activists have argued that
there is little or no harm from child-adult sex. Some support their
arguments by citing various studies that have argued that the negative
outcomes attributed to adult-child sexual relations can usually be
better explained by other factors, such as a poor family environment or
incest.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-53" title="">[69]</a><ul><li>Riegel (2000) asserted: "The acts themselves harm no one, the
emotional and psychological harm comes from the 'after the fact'
interference, counseling, therapy, etc., that attempt to artificially
create a 'victim' and a 'perpetrator' where neither exists" (p. 21).</li><li>Similar arguments are made by SafeHaven Foundation, an organization
for "responsible boylovers". On their website, they wrote, "The child
abuse industry ... takes a boy who has enjoyed pleasurable and
completely consensual sexual experiences with another boy or man, and
traumatizes him in an attempt to convince him that what he did was
'wrong'". In addition, SafeHaven argues that, "many of the supposed
traumas elicited by psychotherapy turn out to be nothing more than the
result of the False Memory Syndrome" (SafeHaven Foundation, 2001).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-54" title="">[70]</a></li><li>In Pedophilia: The Radical Case, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Tom_O%27Carroll" title="Tom O'Carroll">Tom O'Carroll</a> writes: "The disparity in size and power between parent and child creates a potential
for abuse. But, on the basis that parent–child relationships are
generally positive we accept that inequality is simply in the nature of
the thing. I would like to see paedophilic relationships looked at in a
similar light."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-ocarroll" title="">[71]</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Edward_Brongersma" title="Edward Brongersma">Edward Brongersma</a>,
in "Boy-Lovers and Their Influence on Boys," where he reported the
result of interviews with participants in adult–child relationships
wrote, "within a relationship, sex is usually only a secondary element."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-brongersma" title="">[24]</a></li></ul></li></ul><ul><li>Promoting "objective" research. Pedophile advocate Edward
Brongersma, have argued that investigators of child sexual abuse have
biased views (Brongersma, 1990), also calling for a less "emotional"
approach to the subject (e.g., Geraci, 1994, p. 17; Jones, 1990).
Brongersma and Jones have cited Theo Sandfort's (1987) research on boys'
relationships with pedophiles,<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-55" title="">[72]</a> published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Sex Research,
as an example of what they consider "objective" research (e.g.,
Brongersma, 1990, p. 168; Jones, 1990, p. 286). However, critics suggest
that the study was "politically motivated to 'reform' legislation"
(Mrazek, 1990, p. 318). Robert Bauserman (1990, see also <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pedophile_activism" title="Pedophile activism">Rind et al. controversy</a>), in turn, has argued that Mrazek's criticisms are "vaporously distorted, irrelevant, or just plain false".<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-bauserman" title="">[73]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Declassification of pedophilia as <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Mental_illness" title="Mental illness">mental illness</a>. Activists of the movement quote Moser and Kleinplatz (2003), who suggest that all <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Paraphilia" title="Paraphilia">paraphilia</a> be removed from the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders" title="Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders">Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders</a> (DSM).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-56" title="">[74]</a></li></ul>
Other academics specifically criticizing the DSM diagnosis of pedophilia include sexologist <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Richard_Green" title="Richard Green">Richard Green</a> (2002)<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-57" title="">[75]</a> and professor of psychiatry William O´Donohue (2000)<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-58" title="">[76]</a>. <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Other_pro-pedophilia_views" name="Other_pro-pedophilia_views"></a> <h3>Other pro-pedophilia views</h3>
Views not mentioned by DeYoung, but often opined by activists include: <ul><li>Promoting understanding of the difference between pedophilia and sexual activity. Some activists wish to explain the difference between pedophilia and adults' sexual activity with children.</li></ul><ul><li>Promoting the testimonies of people who claim no harm from sex as a minor.
Some activist websites collect and publish anecdotal material that,
according to them, is from various people, mainly adults, who, having
been sexually involved with an adult as a minor, claim to have enjoyed
or suffered no ill effects from this experience. <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-ocarroll2" title="">[77]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-59" title="">[78]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Referring to experiences of situations where adult-child sex interactions are not illegal, both historical and ethnical.
Pedophile activists often point to situations where adult-child sex
interactions are not illegal (though not necessarily common) and no
negative effects are observed. Most refer to ancient Greece, while some
employ ethnological studies. A few also refer to post-antiquity
historical situations in the Western world where such conditions
existed.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-brongersma2" title="">[79]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Invoking ideas of continuity between pedophile and other minority activists.
Some activists argue that pedophile activism, feminism, gay activism,
and anti-racism all relate to the experiences of suppressed and
misunderstood groups. This argument is made by Harris Mirkin, in the
article quoted above.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-60" title="">[80]</a> Other scholars, such as <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Camille_Paglia" title="Camille Paglia">Camille Paglia</a>,
have asserted that gay rights (from which much of pedophile activism
diverged) should never have rejected the pederastic themes which some
activists claim were the "giveaways" required to make homosexual culture
acceptable.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-61" title="">[81]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Pointing to juvenile sexual activity in the animal kingdom and invoking evolutionary arguments.
Other species are sometimes used as examples of beneficial or
normalized sexual contact between grown animals and infants or
adolescents. One popular case is that of a close relative to humans, the
<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Bonobo" title="Bonobo">Bonobo</a>, where infant-initiated sexual touching is part of everyday life, and intercourse is sometimes initiated by the young.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-62" title="">[82]</a>
Elsewhere, it is argued that, in evolutionary terms, it makes sense for
prepubescent humans to be educated in affective sexual intimacy before
the age of fertility (hence the development of reproductive potential).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-63" title="">[83]</a></li></ul>
Other goals of pro-pedophile activism may, but do not necessarily
include a redefining of contemporary authority relations between adults
and minors and the changing of institutions of concern to pedophiles,
such as <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Age_of_consent" title="Age of consent">age of consent</a> laws and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Mental_disorder" title="Mental disorder">mental disorder</a> classification.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-64" title="">[84]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-65" title="">[85]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Scientific_claims" name="Scientific_claims"></a> <h2>Scientific claims</h2><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Questioning_assumptions_about_pedophiles" name="Questioning_assumptions_about_pedophiles"></a> <h3>Questioning assumptions about pedophiles</h3>
Members of the movement have referred to a few scientific studies
which document the percentage of people that responds to pedophilic
stimuli, including papers such as Hall et. al., in which 26.25% of male
volunteers exhibited equal or greater sexual arousal to pedophilic audio
stimuli, and 33% for pedophilic imagery.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-66" title="">[86]</a> 
Activists argue there is a distinction between pedophiles and child
molesters, citing, for example, Fagan, Wise, Schmidt and Berlin, who
wrote, "Pedophilia is a diagnosis applicable to only a portion of
individuals who sexually abuse children. Information has been drawn from
published research about pedophilia and child sexual abuse in general
to present the current state of knowledge. Despite a sizeable body of
published, peer-reviewed articles about topics such as child sexual
abuse, child molestation, and sexual offenders, data and our knowledge
base about pedophilia have significant limitations."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-67" title="">[87]</a> 
Activists question assumptions about personality correlates of pedophilia as a condition.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-mhamicmythsfacts" title="">[88]</a>
Some cite Okami and Goldberg, who stated in 1992, "The scientific
support for the belief that pedophiles are passive, dependent,
unassertive, isolated, and socially awkward is weak. Almost all studies
are based on offenders against minors rather than on pedophiles. They
typically find that such offenders are similar to other kinds of
offenders."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-okamigoldberg" title="">[89]</a>
Some also cite Langevin, who wrote in 1983 that, "The data also do not
support the theories that pedophilia is due to fixation at an immature
stage of development, to an inability to relate to women, to mental
retardation, or to senility," and noted that, "One non-clinical study
suggests that studies of clinical samples may be biased toward finding
pathology which is not an inherent part of the sexual anomaly. There may
be well-adjusted pedophiles living in the community... Even when
characteristic traits are found, they may be due to society’s reactions
rather than be causes or correlates of pedophilia."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-langevin" title="">[90]</a> 
Pro-pedophile activists claim that pedophiles' feelings toward children include other emotions besides sexual attraction.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-mhamicviolent" title="">[91]</a>
Some activists again cite Okami and Goldberg, who wrote, "Several
studies have shown that men whose sexual preference is for children
often have a complex set of attitudes, beliefs, and feelings about
children in which sexual desire may be subordinate. They often interact
with children in ways that include many non-sexual aspects, including
affection, which children experience positively."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-okamigoldberg" title="">[89]</a>
They concluded that, "An unknown percentage of true pedophiles may
never act on their sexual feelings, and many sex offenders against
minors are not pedophiles. Pedophiles probably cannot be studied due to
social stigma and mandatory reporting laws."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-okamigoldberg" title="">[89]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Re-categorization_of_data" name="Re-categorization_of_data"></a> <h3>Re-categorization of data</h3>
Some pedophile activists attempt to refute scientific research that
finds sexual contact between adults and children as predominantly
harmful by stating that there is a variety of different categories for
adult-child sex interactions that are commonly not acknowledged by
mainstream scientific research. They claim that studies showing harm
from adult-child sexual contact might have shown that some types of
contact are harmless, if only the studies had carefully categorized the
contacts into more narrow categories, such as "consensual" contact
versus "non-consensual" contact.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-brongersma" title="">[24]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-califa" title="">[92]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-carrolingian" title="">[93]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-cloud" title="">[94]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-constantine" title="">[95]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-frederiksen" title="">[96]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-Ree" title="">[97]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" name=".22Socially_Representative.22_sampling_and_change_in_ethos"></a> <h3>"Socially Representative" sampling and change in ethos</h3>
Some activists claim that "sexual abuse" studies, by their very
definition and aims, self-select the categories of interaction that
involve negative experiences, even in those cases where medical or legal
samples have been avoided and a sample more representative of the
general population has been used. For example, Edward Brongersma
criticizes these studies for being tainted by three problems that result
in what he terms "Inadequate Research" — "First Source of Error: Sexual
Activity as the Decisive Test," "Second Source of Error: Mingling
Boy-Lovers and Girl-Lovers," and "Third Source of Error: Bias." The
result, for Brongersma, is that "The influence a man may have on a boy
in a man/boy-relationship is a difficult subject to broach: empirical
research is conspicuous by its virtual absence and theory has been
highly distorted by social prejudice and the seeming inability of most
investigators to make proper distinctions. Thus an outsider who wishes
to gain some insight into what really happens in a sexually expressed
relationship between a man and a boy has very little to go on."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-68" title="">[98]</a> 
Some also claim that there is political pressure<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-69" title="">[99]</a>
on scientists not to produce results that are contrary to the political
consensus, leading to fundamental biases in research techniques (such
as the confusion of correlation and causality).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-70" title="">[100]</a>
Other criticisms such as the use of confusing terminology, confusion of
morality and ideology with science, and the generalisation of clinical
and criminal samples to society as a whole are mirrored by the Male
Homosexual Attracton to Minors Information Center.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-71" title="">[101]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Other_papers_supporting_some_activist_opinions" name="Other_papers_supporting_some_activist_opinions"></a> <h3>Other papers supporting some activist opinions</h3>
Ben Spiecker and Jan Steutel, in a paper entitled Paedophilia, Sexual Desire and Perversity,
argued that consent is possible in some older prepubescent children.
They concluded, however, that, "Paedophile sex is a form of exploitation
because it endangers the long-term welfare of the child. Consequently,
paedophilia involves desires towards behaviour that is morally wrong,
but only in some forms of paedophilia are these desires perverse."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-spiecker" title="">[102]</a> In Intergenerational Sexual Contact: A Continuum Model of Participants and Experiences,
Joan Nelson wrote, "De Young (1982) reports that 20% of her 'victims'
appeared to be 'virtually indifferent to their molestation' Instead,
they tended to be traumatized by the reaction of adults to its
discovery."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-nelson" title="">[103]</a> Theo Sandfort's 1980 study in which 25 boys aged 10 - 16 and involved in <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pederasty" title="Pederasty">pederasty</a>
were interviewed concluded that, "Except on the basis of violation of
moral standards, there was nothing in what these boys said that would
justify punishment. …[The laws] should be so drawn up that the kind of
sexual contacts which these 25 boys experienced would fall outside of
their application."<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-72" title="">[104]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Rind_et_al._controversy" name="Rind_et_al._controversy"></a> <h3>Rind et al. controversy</h3>
A <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Meta-analysis" title="Meta-analysis">meta-analysis</a> of studies using college students by Bruce Rind, Philip Tromovitch and Robert Bauserman published by the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/American_Psychological_Association" title="American Psychological Association">American Psychological Association</a>
in 1998 found a weak correlation between sex abuse in childhood and the
later instability of the child's adult psyche. It noted that a
significant percentage reported their reactions to sex abuse as positive
in the short term and concludes that for research purposes some cases
of child sex abuse would be better labeled "adult-child sex". The
article stated in the addendum that "CSA does not cause intense harm on a
pervasive basis regardless of gender in the college population" (Rind
et al., 1998, p. 46), but warns "The current findings are relevant to
moral and legal positions only to the extent that these positions are
based on the presumption of psychological harm" (p. 47). 
The paper faced multiple academic disputations, including sample
bias, non-standardization of variables, statistical errors, and
researchers' personal bias.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-73" title="">[105]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-74" title="">[106]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-75" title="">[107]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-76" title="">[108]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-77" title="">[109]</a> The article's authors have published replies to these claims.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-78" title="">[110]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-79" title="">[111]</a> 
In addition to academic criticism, the article received massive criticism from <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/American_conservatism" title="American conservatism">conservative</a> activists and groups, including radio personality <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Laura_Schlessinger" title="Laura Schlessinger">Laura Schlessinger</a>. She and others called the article an attempt to normalize pedophilia. Congressman <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Tom_DeLay" title="Tom DeLay">Tom DeLay</a>
and others sought a formal congressional action against the APA for the
article. In 1999 Congress unanimously passed a bill stating that
"children are a precious gift and responsibility given to parents by
God" and that the study was "severely flawed", although it did not cite
any specific errors.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-congress" title="">[112]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Controversy_and_public_reaction_to_the_movement" name="Controversy_and_public_reaction_to_the_movement"></a> <h2>Controversy and public reaction to the movement</h2>
Nearly all national governments conform to <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/United_Nations" title="United Nations">United Nations</a> protocols for age-of-consent legislation and the criminalization of <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_pornography" title="Child pornography">child pornography</a>.
From 2000 to 2004, over 130 nations signed a United Nations accord to
criminalize child pornography. The U.N. convention on legal age for
marriage has been in force since 1964.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-OHCHR" title="">[113]</a> 
Members of the movement assert that they do not support child abuse or illegal activity.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-bkgirls" title="">[54]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-martijn" title="">[45]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-80" title="">[114]</a> Public reaction to this claim has been skeptical. <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Criticism_of_the_movement" name="Criticism_of_the_movement"></a> <h3>Criticism of the movement</h3>
The <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/ICD-10" title="ICD-10">ICD-10</a> and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/DSM_IV" title="DSM IV">DSM IV</a>,
which are medical diagnosis manuals, describe pedophilia as a
paraphilia and mental disorder of adults or older youths, if it causes
clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational,
or other important areas of functioning. 
Law enforcement officials and psychologists have asserted that the
movement's online support groups help some pedophiles to justify
engaging in adult-child sexual contact. They claim that adults arrested
for child molestation frequently cite the positions of the movement as
justification for their actions (Finkelhor, 1984).<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-81" title="">[115]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-82" title="">[116]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-83" title="">[117]</a> In an interview with KCTV5<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-84" title="">[118]</a>, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Phill_Kline" title="Phill Kline">Phill Kline</a>, Kansas <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Attorney_General" title="Attorney General">Attorney General</a>,
characterized the goal of certain pedophile activists to change
age-of-consent laws as "twisted." Some psychologists consider various
positions of the movement to be the “cognitive distortions”
characteristic of sexual abusers.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-85" title="">[119]</a> 
For example, in August 2006, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/The_New_York_Times" title="The New York Times">The New York Times</a> published the results of a four-month investigation of online pedophile communications and activities.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-nytimes" title="">[120]</a>
The newspaper described how “pedophiles view themselves as the vanguard
of a nascent movement seeking legalization of child pornography and the
loosening of age-of-consent laws.” And while "pedophiles often maintain
that the discussion sites are little more than support groups,” the
newspaper asserted that, “[r]epeatedly in these conversations,
pedophiles said the discussions had helped them accept their attractions
and had even allowed them to have sex with a child without guilt." <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Skepticism_that_the_movement_does_not_support_child_abuse" name="Skepticism_that_the_movement_does_not_support_child_abuse"></a> <h3>Skepticism that the movement does not support child abuse</h3>
Many child abuse prevention advocates, law enforcement officials, and
journalists note that various child molestation convicts were also
members of the movement. Those involved with the movement have responded
by claiming that this was either not true, the acts were victimless
"crimes" (before intervention), or that the movement could have even
helped them avoid crossing the line into abuse by giving them a more
positive <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Identity_%28social_science%29" title="Identity (social science)">identity</a> than society does.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-uittenbogaard" title="">[121]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-sandfort" title="">[122]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-86" title="">[123]</a>
Some claim that dwelling on these arrests attempts to smear the
movement through guilt-by-association. Nonetheless, mainstream observers
remain skeptical that ardent advocates of adult-child romance and sex
stay within the law – citing these arrests as evidence.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-sfman" title="">[124]</a> 
Concerning the recent sex scandals involving Catholic priests in the
US, some pedophile activists say that these scandals only or prominently
involved minor partners that during the times of sexual interactions
were adolescent and thus, these scandals have nothing to do with
pedophile activism.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-goldstein" title="">[125]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-mattingly" title="">[126]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-87" title="">[127]</a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Child_abuse_cases_in_relation_to_members_of_NAMBLA" name="Child_abuse_cases_in_relation_to_members_of_NAMBLA"></a> <h4>Child abuse cases in relation to members of NAMBLA</h4>
Many of these incidents giving grounds to skepticism involve members of <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/NAMBLA" title="NAMBLA">NAMBLA</a>,
the organization most widely known to the U.S. public. Some claim that
these activities are limited to members of this organization and are not
representative of the larger movement.[<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed">citation needed</a>] Dutch psychologist and pedophile activist <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Frits_Bernard" title="Frits Bernard">Frits Bernard</a> has argued that NAMBLA at least started out as an ephebophile,
not a pedophile activism organization as identifiable by its original
political and social reform program, and that its program remained like
that at least until 1982 when Bernard made his statement.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-bernard" title="">[128]</a> 
Incidents include: <ul><li>Rev. Paul Shanley, a priest accused of abusing children as young as
six years old over a period of three decades, allegedly participated in
early movement workshops and advocacy, according to contemporaneous
accounts of the events obtained by the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Boston_Globe" title="Boston Globe">Boston Globe</a>.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-88" title="">[129]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-89" title="">[130]</a> Pedophile activists have sought to cast doubt on Shanley's conviction.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-guide" title="">[131]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Charles Jaynes was convicted of murdering a 10-year-old boy then having intercourse with his body in 1997;<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-rubenstein" title="">[132]</a> the parents of the boy filed a $200 million wrongful death suit against NAMBLA, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Curley_v._NAMBLA" title="Curley v. NAMBLA">Curley v. NAMBLA</a>,
claiming that while being heterosexual, "immediately prior" to the
murder, "Charles Jaynes accessed NAMBLA's Web site at the Boston Public
Library".<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-90" title="">[133]</a> By 2005, $1 million and five years had been spent to prove this claim.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-oreilly" title="">[134]</a> The <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/ACLU" title="ACLU">ACLU</a> protested against associating NAMBLA with this case and represented them, asking the case to be dismissed.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-91" title="">[135]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-92" title="">[136]</a></li></ul><ul><li>John David Smith, a San Francisco man convicted of sexually
assaulting an 11-year-old boy he was babysitting, met an undercover
investigator through his activities as a NAMBLA member. According to the
investigator, Smith used his contacts with NAMBLA to trade child
pornography and arrange sex with children.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-sfman" title="">[124]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-93" title="">[137]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Johnathan Tampico was convicted of child molestation in 1989 and
paroled in 1992 on condition of not possessing child pornography. After
breaking his parole, he was found after a broadcast of <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/America%27s_Most_Wanted" title="America's Most Wanted">America's Most Wanted</a>.
He was arrested and convicted on child pornography charges. In his
sentencing, the court found that Tampico was a member of NAMBLA, that
NAMBLA supported a foster home in Thailand that sexually exploited
children, and that Tampico and others traveled to Thailand in order to
have unlimited access to young boys at the foster home, as evidenced by a
number of Polaroid pictures, provided by Thai officials, depicting
Tampico with young Thai boys sitting on his lap.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-tampico" title="">[138]</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-94" title="">[139]</a></li></ul><ul><li>James C. Parker, a New York man who, according to court records,
told the police that he was a member of NAMBLA, was arrested in 2000 and
convicted in 2001 of committing sodomy with an underage boy.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-95" title="">[140]</a></li></ul><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Criminal_cases_in_relation_to_other_pedophile_activists" name="Criminal_cases_in_relation_to_other_pedophile_activists"></a> <h4>Criminal cases in relation to other pedophile activists</h4><ul><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Tom_O%27Carroll" title="Tom O'Carroll">Tom O'Carroll</a>, author of Pedophilia: a Radical Case
and a founder of the Paedophile Information Exchange, admitted to two
counts of distributing indecent images in September 2006, and in
December 20, 2006, he was jailed for 2 1/2 years at London’s Middlesex
Crown Court.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-96" title="">[141]</a> Whilst he admits to the illegal activity itself, O'Carroll defends his actions on an ethical basis.<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-97" title="">[142]</a></li></ul><ul><li>Ad van den Berg, co-founder and treasurer of the pro-pedophile <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Partij_voor_Naastenliefde,_Vrijheid_en_Diversiteit" title="Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid en Diversiteit">Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid en Diversiteit</a> political party in the <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Netherlands" title="Netherlands">Netherlands</a>, was convicted of molesting an 11-year old boy in 1987. <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-98" title="">[143]</a></li></ul><ul><li>The late <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Edward_Brongersma" title="Edward Brongersma">Edward Brongersma</a>, a <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Dutch" title="Dutch">Dutch</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Lawyer" title="Lawyer">lawyer</a>, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Politician" title="Politician">politician</a> and <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Journalist" title="Journalist">journalist</a> was sent to <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Jail" title="Jail">jail</a> in <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/1950" title="1950">1950</a>,
for 10 months after having sexual contacts with a male of around 17
years old. Upon his release, he successfully campaigned for a reduction
in the legal age, which was first lowered to 16 and then to 12 (with
parental consent and no objection from welfare).</li></ul><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="See_also" name="See_also"></a> <h2>See also</h2><ul><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Abolition_of_age_of_consent_laws" title="Abolition of age of consent laws">Abolition of age of consent laws</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Age_disparity_in_sexual_relationships" title="Age disparity in sexual relationships">Age disparity in sexual relationships</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Anti-pedophile_activism" title="Anti-pedophile activism">Anti-pedophile activism</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_sexual_abuse" title="Child sexual abuse">Child sexual abuse</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Child_sexuality" title="Child sexuality">Child sexuality</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Chronophilia" title="Chronophilia">Chronophilia</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pedophilia" title="Pedophilia">Pedophilia</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Sexual_Morality_and_the_Law" title="Sexual Morality and the Law">Sexual Morality and the Law</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/-philia" title="-philia">list of philias</a></li></ul>
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| width="50%" | <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Advocate_groups" name="Advocate_groups"></a> <h3>Advocate groups</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Danish_Pedophile_Association" title="Danish Pedophile Association">Danish Pedophile Association</a> (or DPA Gruppe 04)</li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Dutch_Society_for_Sexual_Reform" title="Dutch Society for Sexual Reform">Dutch Society for Sexual Reform</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Krumme_13" title="Krumme 13">Krumme 13</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association" title="North American Man/Boy Love Association">North American Man/Boy Love Association</a> (NAMBLA)</li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Paedophile_Information_Exchange" title="Paedophile Information Exchange">Paedophile Information Exchange</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Paidika" title="Paidika">Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Partij_voor_Naastenliefde,_Vrijheid_&_Diversiteit" title="Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid & Diversiteit">Partij voor Naastenliefde, Vrijheid & Diversiteit</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Rene_Guyon_Society" title="Rene Guyon Society">Rene Guyon Society</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Vereniging_MARTIJN" title="Vereniging MARTIJN">Vereniging MARTIJN</a></li></ul>
| width="50%" | <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Opponent_groups" name="Opponent_groups"></a> <h3>Opponent groups</h3><ul><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/National_Society_for_the_Prevention_of_Cruelty_to_Children" title="National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children">National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Nationale_Alliantie" title="Nationale Alliantie">Nationale Alliantie</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/News_of_the_World" title="News of the World">News of the World</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Perverted-Justice" title="Perverted-Justice">Perverted-Justice</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/RAINN" title="RAINN">RAINN</a> (Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network)<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-RAINN" title="">[144]</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Redwatch" title="Redwatch">Redwatch</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-99" title="">[145]</a></li><li><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Special_Rapporteur_on_the_sale_of_children,_child_prostitution_and_child_pornography" title="Special Rapporteur on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography">UN Special Rapporteur (child exploitation)</a></li><li>Stop Martijn<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_note-indischebuurt" title="">[146]</a></li></ul>
|}<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Notes_and_references" name="Notes_and_references"></a> <h2>Notes and references</h2><div style="border: 1px solid #AAAAAA; height: 400px; overflow: auto; padding: 3px;"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="Notes" name="Notes"></a> <h3>Notes</h3><div class="references-2column"><ol class="references"><li id="_note-0"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-0" title="">^</a>The Sexual Exploitation of Children, University of Pennsylvania Center for Youth Policy Studies, U.S. National Institute of Justice, August 2001.</li><li id="_note-1"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-1" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.clinicalsocialwork.com/incest.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.clinicalsocialwork.com/incest.html">http://www.clinicalsocialwork.com/incest.html</a></li><li id="_note-2"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-2" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28336" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28336">http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28336</a></li><li id="_note-3"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-3" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.thestandard.com/article.php?story=20040227211153249" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.thestandard.com/article.php?story=20040227211153249">http://www.thestandard.com/article.php?story=20040227211153249</a></li><li id="_note-4"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-4" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.vachss.com/av_dispatches/parade_071402.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.vachss.com/av_dispatches/parade_071402.html">http://www.vachss.com/av_dispatches/parade_071402.html</a></li><li id="_note-5"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-5" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=69831" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=69831">http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=69831</a></li><li id="_note-6"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-6" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://anu.nfshost.com/2007/because-its-not-about-the-children" rel="nofollow" title="http://anu.nfshost.com/2007/because-its-not-about-the-children">http://anu.nfshost.com/2007/because-its-not-about-the-children</a></li><li id="_note-7"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-7" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.the-signal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=50916" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.the-signal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=50916">http://www.the-signal.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=50916</a></li><li id="_note-8"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-8" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.glgarden.org/kalikokat/pacm_manifesto.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.glgarden.org/kalikokat/pacm_manifesto.htm">http://www.glgarden.org/kalikokat/pacm_manifesto.htm</a> Manifesto of Pedophiles Against Child Molestation (P.A.C.M.)</li><li id="_note-9"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-9" title="">^</a> "The Case for Abolishing the Age of Consent Laws," an editorial from NAMBLA News (1980), reproduced in We Are Everywhere: A Historical Sourcebook of Gay and Lesbian Politics. Ed. by Mark Blasius and Shane Phelan. London: Routledge, 1997. pgs. 459-67.</li><li id="_note-10"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-10" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/pedophiliaTR.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/pedophiliaTR.htm">DSM-IV-TR: Pedophilia</a> BehaveNet.com</li><li id="_note-11"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-11" title="">^</a> Jenkins, Philip. Pedophiles and Priests: Anatomy of a Contemporary Crisis. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1996. pg. 78: "Pedophile
[as a word] implies coercion, exploitation, and even violence, so that
to show any tolerance or sympathy for the condition is socially
unacceptable."</li><li id="_note-12"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-12" title="">^</a> Paglia, Camille. Sexual Personae: Art and Decadence from Nefertiti to Emily Dickinson. New Haven: Yale University Press, 1990. pg. 116.</li><li id="_note-13"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-13" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf">http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf</a></li><li id="_note-14"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-14" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://www.medem.com/MedLB/article_detaillb.cfm?article_ID=ZZZUZRUZGLC&sub_cat=355" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.medem.com/MedLB/article_detaillb.cfm?article_ID=ZZZUZRUZGLC&sub_cat=355">Medical Library: Pedophilia</a></li><li id="_note-15"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-15" title="">^</a> [<a class="external free" href="http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf">http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/diagnosticcriteriapedophilia.pdf</a> APA statement for the Diagnostic Criteria of Pedophilia</li><li id="_note-16"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-16" title="">^</a> McCain, Robert Stacy. "Sex isn't just for adults anymore." Insight on the News. Vol. 18, Iss. 18 (May 20, 2002). pg. 27.</li><li id="_note-17"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-17" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm">http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm</a></li><li id="_note-18"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-18" title="">^</a>
Brongersma, Edward (1988). "Schutzalter 12 Jahre? - Sex mit Kindern in
der niederländischen Gesetzgebung ("Age of Consent 12 years? Dutch
legislation on sex with children")", in Leopardi, Angelo: Der
pädosexuelle Komplex ("On the topic of pedosexuality") (in German).
Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 212. <a class="internal" href="http://www.search.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Booksources&isbn=3922257666">ISBN 3-922257-66-6</a>.</li><li id="_note-19"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-19" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/nambla.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/nambla.html">http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/nambla.html</a></li><li id="_note-20"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-20" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/bernard/publications.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/bernard/publications.htm">http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/bernard/publications.htm</a></li><li id="_note-dutch">^ <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_0" title="">a</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_1" title="">b</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_2" title="">c</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_3" title="">d</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_4" title="">e</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_5" title="">f</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_6" title="">g</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_7" title="">h</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_8" title="">i</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_9" title="">j</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_10" title="">k</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-dutch_11" title="">l</a><cite style="font-style: normal;">Dr. Frits Bernard (Autumn 1987). "<a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm">The Dutch Paedophile Emancipation Movement</a>". Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia1 (2).</cite><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=The+Dutch+Paedophile+Emancipation+Movement&rft.jtitle=Paidika%3A+The+Journal+of+Paedophilia&rft.date=Autumn+1987&rft.volume=1&rft.issue=2&rft.au=Dr.+Frits+Bernard&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipce.info%2Fipceweb%2FLibrary%2Fdutch_movement_text.htm"> </li><li id="_note-hohmann">^ <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-hohmann_0" title="">a</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-hohmann_1" title="">b</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-hohmann_2" title="">c</a><cite class="book" id="Reference-Hohmann-1980" style="font-style: normal;">Hohmann, Joachim S.; Bernard, Frits (1980). in Hohmann, Joachim S.: Pädophilie heute ("Pedophilia today"</cite>) (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 65. <a class="internal" href="http://www.search.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Booksources&isbn=3922257100">ISBN 3-922257-10-0</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=P%C3%A4dophilie+heute+%28%27%27%22Pedophilia+today%22%27%27%29&rft.aulast=Hohmann&rft.aufirst=Joachim+S.&rft.pub=Foerster+Verlag&rft.place=Frankfurt%2FMain%2C+Germany&rft.pages=65"> </li><li id="_note-brongersma">^ <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-brongersma_0" title="">a</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-brongersma_1" title="">b</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-brongersma_2" title="">c</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-brongersma_3" title="">d</a><cite class="book" id="Reference-Brongersma-1988" style="font-style: normal;">Brongersma, Edward (1988). "Schutzalter 12 Jahre? - Sex mit Kindern in der niederländischen Gesetzgebung, ("Age of Consent 12 years? Dutch legislation on sex with children")", in Leopardi, Angelo: Der pädosexuelle Komplex ("On the topic of pedosexuality"</cite>) (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 212. <a class="internal" href="http://www.search.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Booksources&isbn=3922257666">ISBN 3-922257-66-6</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Der+p%C3%A4dosexuelle+Komplex+%28%27%27%22On+the+topic+of+pedosexuality%22%27%27%29&rft.atitle=%27%27Schutzalter+12+Jahre%3F+-+Sex+mit+Kindern+in+der+niederl%C3%A4ndischen+Gesetzgebung%2C%27%27+%28%22Age+of+Consent+12+years%3F+Dutch+legislation+on+sex+with+children%22%29&rft.aulast=Brongersma&rft.aufirst=Edward&rft.pub=Foerster+Verlag&rft.place=Frankfurt%2FMain%2C+Germany&rft.pages=212"> </li><li id="_note-21"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-21" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://www.paedosexualitaet.de/lib/Baurmann1983.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.paedosexualitaet.de/lib/Baurmann1983.html">Baurmann's
criminological study published by the German Federal Criminal Police
Office in 1983 (English translation of its original conclusions summary)</a>.</li><li id="_note-leopardi">^ <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-leopardi_0" title="">a</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-leopardi_1" title="">b</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-leopardi_2" title="">c</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-leopardi_3" title="">d</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-leopardi_4" title="">e</a><cite class="book" id="Reference-Leopardi-1988" style="font-style: normal;">Leopardi, Angelo; Bernard, Frits (1988). in Leopardi, Angelo: Der pädosexuelle Komplex ("On the topic of pedosexuality"</cite>) (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 297ff. <a class="internal" href="http://www.search.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Booksources&isbn=3922257666">ISBN 3-922257-66-6</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Der+p%C3%A4dosexuelle+Komplex+%28%27%27%22On+the+topic+of+pedosexuality%22%27%27%29&rft.aulast=Leopardi&rft.aufirst=Angelo&rft.pub=Foerster+Verlag&rft.place=Frankfurt%2FMain%2C+Germany&rft.pages=297ff"> </li><li id="_note-tolerance">^ <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-tolerance_0" title="">a</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-tolerance_1" title="">b</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-tolerance_2" title="">c</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-tolerance_3" title="">d</a><cite style="font-style: normal;">Jan Schuijer (1990). "Tolerance at arm's length: The Dutch experience". Journal of Homosexuality20: 218.</cite><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=Tolerance+at+arm%27s+length%3A+The+Dutch+experience&rft.jtitle=Journal+of+Homosexuality&rft.date=1990&rft.volume=20&rft.au=Jan+Schuijer&rft.pages=218"> </li><li id="_note-22"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-22" title="">^</a><cite style="font-style: normal;">Theo Sandfort (1990). "<a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/sbn90.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/sbn90.htm">Boy Relationships: Different Concepts for a Diversity of Phenomena</a>". Journal of Homosexuality20.</cite><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=Boy+Relationships%3A+Different+Concepts+for+a+Diversity+of+Phenomena&rft.jtitle=Journal+of+Homosexuality&rft.date=1990&rft.volume=20&rft.au=Theo+Sandfort&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipce.info%2Flibrary_3%2Ffiles%2Fsbn90.htm"> </li><li id="_note-23"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-23" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/psvg_81_en.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/psvg_81_en.htm">Pedophilia</a></li><li id="_note-grenzen">^ <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-grenzen_0" title="">a</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-grenzen_1" title="">b</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-grenzen_2" title="">c</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-grenzen_3" title="">d</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-grenzen_4" title="">e</a><cite class="book" id="Reference-Bernard-1997" style="font-style: normal;">Bernard, Frits (1997). Pädophilie ohne Grenzen ("Anti-authoritarian pedophilia"</cite>) (in German). Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 36. <a class="internal" href="http://www.search.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Booksources&isbn=3922257836">ISBN 3-922257-83-6</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=P%C3%A4dophilie+ohne+Grenzen+%28%27%27%22Anti-authoritarian+pedophilia%22%27%27%29&rft.aulast=Bernard&rft.aufirst=Frits&rft.pub=Foerster+Verlag&rft.place=Frankfurt%2FMain%2C+Germany&rft.pages=36"> </li><li id="_note-24"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-24" title="">^</a> Jenkins, Philip. Decade of Nightmares: The End of the Sixties and the Making of Eighties America. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2006. pg. 124.</li><li id="_note-25"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-25" title="">^</a> Soto, <a class="external text" href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_1n18manboy.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_1n18manboy.html">"FBI Targets Pedophilia Advocates"</a>, San Diego Union-Tribune, Feb. 18, 2005.</li><li id="_note-26"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-26" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://paedosexualitaet.de/hist/ILGAexp/index.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://paedosexualitaet.de/hist/ILGAexp/index.html">Expulsion of organizations marked as pedophile from ILGA</a> (HTML).</li><li id="_note-27"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-27" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://paedosexualitaet.de/org/Martijn.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://paedosexualitaet.de/org/Martijn.html">Vereniging Martijn</a> (HTML).</li><li id="_note-28"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-28" title="">^</a> Tremblay, Pierre. 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"<a class="external text" href="http://www.helping-people.info/lecture.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.helping-people.info/lecture.htm">Helping people with pedophilic feelings</a>". 15th World Congress of Sexology, Paris, June 2001 & the congress of the Nordic Association of Clinical Sexology, Visby, Sweden, September 2001.</cite><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=proceeding&rft.btitle=15th+World+Congress+of+Sexology%2C+Paris%2C+June+2001%0A%26+the+congress+of+the+Nordic+Association+of+Clinical+Sexology%2C+Visby%2C+Sweden%2C+September+2001&rft.atitle=Helping+people+with+pedophilic+feelings&rft.au=Frans+Gieles&rft.date=2001&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.helping-people.info%2Flecture.htm"> </li><li id="_note-sfman">^ <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-sfman_0" title="">a</a><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-sfman_1" title="">b</a> Martin, Glen. "<a class="external text" href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1996/09/05/MN43587.DTL" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1996/09/05/MN43587.DTL">S.F. Man Held In Sex Assault On Virginia Boy</a>", San Francisco Chronicle, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/1996" title="1996">1996</a>-<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/September_5" title="September 5">09-05</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.aufirst=Glen&rft.aulast=Martin&rft.title=S.F.+Man+Held+In+Sex+Assault+On+Virginia+Boy&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfgate.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Farticle.cgi%3Ffile%3D%2Fchronicle%2Farchive%2F1996%2F09%2F05%2FMN43587.DTL&rft.publisher=San+Francisco+Chronicle&rft.date=%5B%5B1996-09-05%5D%5D"> </li><li id="_note-goldstein"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-goldstein_0" title="">^</a><cite style="font-style: normal;">Richard Goldstein (August 20, 2002). "<a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/advocate.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/advocate.htm">The Double Standard</a>". The Advocate.</cite><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=The+Double+Standard&rft.jtitle=The+Advocate&rft.date=August+20%2C+2002&rft.au=Richard+Goldstein&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipce.info%2Flibrary_3%2Ffiles%2Fadvocate.htm"> </li><li id="_note-mattingly"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-mattingly_0" title="">^</a> Mattingly, Terry (2002). <a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/cath_sons.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/cath_sons.htm">Fathers, mothers & Catholic sons</a> (HTML).</li><li id="_note-87"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-87" title="">^</a> Tierney, John. "<a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/labels.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/labels.htm">Wrong Labels Inflame Fears of Catholics</a>", New York Times, March 22, 2002.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.aufirst=John&rft.aulast=Tierney&rft.title=Wrong+Labels+Inflame+Fears+of+Catholics&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipce.info%2Flibrary_3%2Ffiles%2Flabels.htm&rft.publisher=New+York+Times&rft.date=March+22%2C+2002"> </li><li id="_note-bernard"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-bernard_0" title="">^</a><cite class="book" id="Reference-Bernard-1982" style="font-style: normal;">Bernard, Frits [1976] (1982). Kinderschänder? - Pädophilie, von der Liebe mit Kindern ("Child-molesters? - Pedophilia, on childlove"</cite>), 3rd ed. (in German, orig. 1st ed. in Dutch), Frankfurt/Main, Germany: Foerster Verlag, 126. <a class="internal" href="http://www.search.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Booksources&isbn=3922257410">ISBN 3-922257-41-0</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Abook&rft.genre=book&rft.btitle=Kindersch%C3%A4nder%3F+-+P%C3%A4dophilie%2C+von+der+Liebe+mit+Kindern+%28%27%27%22Child-molesters%3F+-+Pedophilia%2C+on+childlove%22%27%27%29&rft.aulast=Bernard&rft.aufirst=Frits&rft.edition=3rd+ed.&rft.pub=Foerster+Verlag&rft.place=Frankfurt%2FMain%2C+Germany&rft.pages=126"> </li><li id="_note-88"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-88" title="">^</a> "<a class="external text" href="http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/documents/shanley_0279.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/documents/shanley_0279.htm">Shanley quoted in GaysWeek magazine</a>", <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/The_Boston_Globe" title="The Boston Globe">The Boston Globe</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.title=Shanley+quoted+in+GaysWeek+magazine&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boston.com%2Fglobe%2Fspotlight%2Fabuse%2Fdocuments%2Fshanley_0279.htm&rft.publisher=%5B%5BThe+Boston+Globe%5D%5D"> </li><li id="_note-89"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-89" title="">^</a> Tesfaye, Bizuayehu. "<a class="external text" href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-05-06-shanley_x.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-05-06-shanley_x.htm">Shanley, priest at center of clergy abuse scandal, defrocked</a>", <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/USA_Today" title="USA Today">USA Today</a>, <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/2004" title="2004">2004</a>-<a href="http://www.search.com/reference/May_6" title="May 6">05-06</a>.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.aufirst=Bizuayehu&rft.aulast=Tesfaye&rft.title=Shanley%2C+priest+at+center+of+clergy+abuse+scandal%2C+defrocked&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fnation%2F2004-05-06-shanley_x.htm&rft.publisher=%5B%5BUSA+Today%5D%5D&rft.date=%5B%5B2004-05-06%5D%5D"> </li><li id="_note-guide"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-guide_0" title="">^</a> "<a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/shanley_guide.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/shanley_guide.htm">Sex Terror: What's breathing down your neck?</a>", The Guide, March 2005.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.title=Sex+Terror%3A+What%27s+breathing+down+your+neck%3F&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ipce.info%2Flibrary_3%2Ffiles%2Fshanley_guide.htm&rft.publisher=The+Guide&rft.date=March+2005"> </li><li id="_note-rubenstein"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-rubenstein_0" title="">^</a> Rubenstein, Kathryn. "<a class="external text" href="http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/sicari.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/sicari.html">Massachusetts v. Salvatore Sicari "Molestation Murder Trial"</a>", Court TV, 2001.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.aufirst=Kathryn&rft.aulast=Rubenstein&rft.title=Massachusetts+v.+Salvatore+Sicari+%22Molestation+Murder+Trial%22&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.courttv.com%2Farchive%2Fverdicts%2Fsicari.html&rft.publisher=Court+TV&rft.date=2001"> </li><li id="_note-90"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-90" title="">^</a><cite style="font-style: normal;">Wendy Kaminer (November 20, 2000). "<a class="external text" href="http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/24/kaminer-w.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/24/kaminer-w.html">Speaking of</a>". The American Prospect11 (24).</cite><span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&rft.genre=article&rft.atitle=Speaking+of&rft.jtitle=The+American+Prospect&rft.date=November+20%2C+2000&rft.volume=11&rft.issue=24&rft.au=Wendy+Kaminer&rft_id=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.prospect.org%2Fprint%2FV11%2F24%2Fkaminer-w.html"> </li><li id="_note-oreilly"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-oreilly_0" title="">^</a> O'Reilly, Bill. "<a class="external text" href="http://www.billoreilly.com/show;jsessionid=DF269774D262DA202969C34B8A0D52C3?action=viewTVShow&showID=245" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.billoreilly.com/show;jsessionid=DF269774D262DA202969C34B8A0D52C3?action=viewTVShow&showID=245">Factor Follow Up Segment: Victim of NAMBLA?</a>", Fox News Channel, April 26, 2005.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.aufirst=Bill&rft.aulast=O%27Reilly&rft.title=Factor+Follow+Up+Segment%3A+Victim+of+NAMBLA%3F&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.billoreilly.com%2Fshow%3Bjsessionid%3DDF269774D262DA202969C34B8A0D52C3%3Faction%3DviewTVShow%26showID%3D245&rft.publisher=Fox+News+Channel&rft.date=April+26%2C+2005"> </li><li id="_note-91"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-91" title="">^</a> Finucane, Martin. "<a class="external text" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000831/aponline171914_000.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000831/aponline171914_000.htm">ACLU To Represent NAMBLA</a>", The Associated Press, August 31, 2000.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.aufirst=Martin&rft.aulast=Finucane&rft.title=ACLU+To+Represent+NAMBLA&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fwp-srv%2Faponline%2F20000831%2Faponline171914_000.htm&rft.publisher=The+Associated+Press&rft.date=August+31%2C+2000"> </li><li id="_note-92"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-92" title="">^</a> "<a class="external text" href="http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=14432" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=14432">ACLU asks federal judge to dismiss case against man-boy sex group</a>", The Associated Press, July 18, 2001.<span class="Z3988" title="ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.type=newspaperArticle&rft.subject=News&rft.title=ACLU+asks+federal+judge+to+dismiss+case+against+man-boy+sex+group&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freedomforum.org%2Ftemplates%2Fdocument.asp%3FdocumentID%3D14432&rft.publisher=The+Associated+Press&rft.date=July+18%2C+2001"> </li><li id="_note-93"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-93" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/virginiastatecases/1546974.wp" rel="nofollow" title="http://caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/virginiastatecases/1546974.wp">http://caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/virginiastatecases/1546974.wp</a>]</li><li id="_note-tampico"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-tampico_0" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2001/0responses/2001-0571.resp.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.usdoj.gov/osg/briefs/2001/0responses/2001-0571.resp.html">Tampico v. United States Of America</a> (HTML) (2001).</li><li id="_note-94"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-94" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=5th/0020178cr0.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=5th/0020178cr0.html">Tampico v. United States Of America</a> (HTML) (2001).</li><li id="_note-95"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-95" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://www.courts.state.ny.us/reporter/slips/16023.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.courts.state.ny.us/reporter/slips/16023.htm">The People Of The State Of New York v James C. Parker, Appellant</a> (HTML) (2003).</li><li id="_note-96"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-96" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=CWSNAUKFCWKF" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=CWSNAUKFCWKF">http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=CWSNAUKFCWKF</a></li><li id="_note-97"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-97" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.inquisition21.com/article%7Eview%7E69%7Epage_num%7E11.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.inquisition21.com/article~view~69~page_num~11.html">http://www.inquisition21.com/article~view~69~page_num~11.html</a></li><li id="_note-98"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-98" title="">^</a><a class="external text" href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/17/news/dutch.php" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/07/17/news/dutch.php">"Court refuses to ban Dutch pedophile party"</a>Associated Press, July 17, 2006</li><li id="_note-RAINN"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-RAINN_0" title="">^</a><a class="external autonumber" href="http://www.rainn.org/public-policy/legislative-agenda/child-protection" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.rainn.org/public-policy/legislative-agenda/child-protection">[2]</a></li><li id="_note-99"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-99" title="">^</a><a class="external free" href="http://www.redwatch.org.uk/noncewatch/assorted.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.redwatch.org.uk/noncewatch/assorted.html">http://www.redwatch.org.uk/noncewatch/assorted.html</a></li><li id="_note-indischebuurt"><a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Pro-pedophile_activism#_ref-indischebuurt_0" title="">^</a><a class="external autonumber" href="http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Eafa/alert/engels/sl11_2003.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.xs4all.nl/~afa/alert/engels/sl11_2003.html">[3]</a></li></ol><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="References" name="References"></a> <h3>References</h3><ul><li>Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg, G. 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"<a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/nelson.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/nelson.htm">Intergenerational Sexual Contact: A Continuum Model of Participants and Experiences</a>". Journal of Sex Education & Therapy, Vol. 15, No.1, 1989, pp.3-12.</li><li>O'Carroll T. (1980). <a class="external text" href="http://www.geocities.com/transrescen/radcase/" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.geocities.com/transrescen/radcase/">Paedophilia: The Radical Case</a>. Peter Owen, London.</li><li>Protestantse Stichting voor Verantwoorde Gezinsvorming, (1981). <a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/psvg_81_en.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/psvg_81_en.htm">Pedophilia</a>. PSVG, The Netherlands.</li><li>Paiderastia. <a class="external text" href="http://www.daretospeak.net/paiderastia/ethics.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.daretospeak.net/paiderastia/ethics.html">A Boylove Code of Ethics</a>. Paiderastia.</li><li>Rossman P. (1976) Sexual Experience Between Men and Boys: Exploring the Pederast Underground. Association Press, New York.</li><li>Schuijer, J. (1990). "Tolerance at arm's length: The Dutch experience." Journal of Homosexuality, 20, 199-229.</li><li>Spieker, B.; Steutel, J. (1997). <a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/99-126_spieck_steu.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/99-126_spieck_steu.htm">Paedophilia, Sexual Desire and Perversity</a>. Journal of Moral Education, 09/01/1997.</li><li>Trembley, Pierre. (2002) "Social interactions among paedophiles." <a class="external autonumber" href="http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/trembaly_2002__social_inter.pdf" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.childtrafficking.com/Docs/trembaly_2002__social_inter.pdf">[6]</a></li><li>Underwager R., Wakefield H. (1997). <a class="external text" href="http://www.ipt-forensics.com/library/special_problems12.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipt-forensics.com/library/special_problems12.htm">Special Problems with Sexual Abuse Cases</a>.
Coping with psychiatric and psychological testimony, Supplement to the
Fifth Edition (Out of Print) (pp. 136-147). Los Angeles, CA: Law and
Psychology Press.</li><li>Vereniging MARTIJN (2004). <a class="external text" href="http://www.martijn.org/page.php?id=200000" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.martijn.org/page.php?id=200000">What we Stand for</a>. Vereniging MARTIJN.</li></ul></div></div><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9000967247504269055" id="External_links" name="External_links"></a> <h2>External links</h2><ul><li><a class="external text" href="http://newgon.com/guide.php" rel="nofollow" title="http://newgon.com/guide.php">Debate Guide</a> - "Arguments and counter arguments for the sexual emancipation of minors and minor attracted adults"</li><li><a class="external text" href="http://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/preface.htm" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/preface.htm">Paedophilia - The Radical Case</a> - Book by <a href="http://www.search.com/reference/Tom_O%27Carroll" title="Tom O'Carroll">Tom O'Carroll</a></li><li><a class="external text" href="http://agetaboo.org/" rel="nofollow" title="http://agetaboo.org/">Age Taboo</a> - "The place for young guys who like younger guys"</li><li><a class="external text" href="http://www.clogo.org/main.php" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.clogo.org/main.php">Clogo</a> - A series of pro activist projects</li><li><a class="external text" href="http://www.liberatedfromabuse.com/boylove.html" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.liberatedfromabuse.com/boylove.html">"Boylove: Semantically Correct?"</a> - An article critical of Pro-pedophile activism</li><li><a class="external text" href="http://www.corporatesexoffenders.com/" rel="nofollow" title="http://www.corporatesexoffenders.com">Corporate Sex Offenders</a> - A campaign against online services that tolerate Pro-pedophile activism</li></ul><div id="footer"><form action="/reference" method="get" name="b"><input class="q" maxlength="256" name="q" size="40" value="" type="text"><input class="checkbox" name="w" type="checkbox"><label for="w">search within these results</label></form><div id="cbsi_f"><div style="font-size: 11.2px;">
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Sexual violence

2016-05-15T09:48:19Z

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'''Sexual violence''' has become a [[psychobabble]] synonym for "sexually activity," when the sexual activity involves a minor and an adult.

The term "sexual violence" was created by radical feminists{reference needed} during their campaign in the late 1970s and early 1980s to demonize incestuous relationships between fathers and young daughters. The term has since been extended to include any kind of sexual behavior which is "disapproved" of, and includes much behavior that in the past was seen as normal and consensual. "Rape" is another term which has been redefined in the same way.

==Importance to BoyLovers==
Sexual relationships which involve ''absolutely no coercion or violence of any kind'' are now labelled as being "sexual violence". The media exploits this new definition in their reporting to sensationalize adult/minor sexual relationships. Politicians also use the newly redefined terms to inflame passions and to garner greater public support for their re-election campaigns and for the passage of even more draconian laws regulating sexual activity.

The redefinition of normal terms has been key to the radical feminist/right-wing Christian coalition's successes at demonizing behaviors which they disapprove of.

==See also==
*[[Sexually violent predator]]
*[[Psychobabble]]

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Fetish

2016-05-15T09:43:54Z

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'''Fetish''' (or '''fetich''') is a term which originated in anthropology and which is used to describe a ''physical object'' which is assumed to have some kind of "magical" powers (e.g., amulets, talismans, etc.)

[[Psychiatry]], as it was then trying (and still is trying, so far fairly unsuccessfully) to establish itself in the late 19th and early 20th centuries as a ''real'' science (one based on empirical research , rather than simply on armchair philosophizing (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armchair_theorizing|at Wikipedia)] adopted the word (as another example of [[psychobabble]]), and then applied it to ''human behaviors'' (not simply to ''objects'') which the psychiatrists, for moral reasons, wished to "[[medicalize]]" or "[[demonize]]". "Fetishes" were categorized by the psychiatrists within another artificial category, [[paraphilia|paraphilias]]--a category which was ''another'' attempt to "medicalize" or "demonize" behaviors which the psychiatrists did not (on moral grounds) "approve of."

Fetishes are normal, though unusual behaviors (eating ''snails'' is also "normal"--but unusual--behavior, and being blond and blue-eyed is ''also'' a normal, but unusual characteristic outside of Scandinavian countries. But these are not called "fetishes").

Being sexually attracted to younger people, including prepubescent children, is ''also'' normal, though unusual, behavior. <nowiki><ref><nowiki>Filip on BoyChat gives references for this--this must be Googled for<nowiki></ref></nowiki>. But the ''psychiatrists'' have condemned this behavior, and they also support ''legal prohibitions'' on this behavior. Psychiatrists therefore allow their ''morality'' to influence what is supposed to be their impartial "scientific study" of human behavior!

===Noun===
# Something which is believed to possess, contain, or cause [[spiritual]] or [[magical]] powers; an [[amulet]] or a [[talisman]]. {{defdate|from the early 17th c.}}
# Something [[sexual]] or [[nonsexual]], such as an object or a part of the body, which arouses [[sexual]] [[desire]] or is necessary for one to reach full sexual satisfaction. {{defdate|from the early 19th c.}}
#: ''I know a guy who has a foot '''fetish'''.''
# {{label|en|US}} An [[irrational]], or [[abnormal]] [[fixation]] or [[preoccupation]]. {{defdate|from the 19th c.}}

#* '''1933''': ''We have a feeling that it must be "honest" work, because it is hard and disagreeable, and we have made a sort of '''fetish''' of manual work.'' -- George Orwell, ''Down and Out in Paris and London'', Ch. XXII, pg. 117 (Harvest / Harcourt paperback edition).

==References==
*(to be added)

==See also==
*[[Foot fetish]]
*[[Psychiatry]]
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[Medicalization]]
*(more to be added)

==External links==
*Wikipedia, of course, follows "the party line" and (mistakenly) assumes that psychiatry is a "science," so beware as you read this article:
:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fetishism

[[Category:Sexuality]]
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Foot fetish

2016-05-15T09:43:02Z

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One (so-called) sexual "[[fetish]]" or [[paraphilia]] is "foot fetishism" (also called "foot partialism," "foot worship," or "podophilia"). Foot fetishism, foot partialism, foot worship, or podophilia is a pronounced sexual interest in feet. It is the most common form of sexual fetishism for otherwise non-sexual objects or body parts, and is more prevalent in men than women.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_fetish</ref>

'''Toe sucking''' (along with finger sucking) is a behavior that infants often perform on themselves as a form of self-soothing and self-play,<ref>https://www.healthtap.com/user_questions/32756</ref> and that can also be a form of stimulating sex play between lovers.

As foot fetishes are fairly common among males, there is a large number of BoyLovers (but a small ''percentage'' of BoyLovers) who are foot fetishists.

In 2003, Trenton Velches (who apparently has a fetish for young boy's feet) was sentenced to life in prison for sucking on the toes of about 20 young boys. The court held that this constituted [[assault]] and [[lewd conduct]].<ref>Associated Press, July 11, 2003, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.obituaries/du_ZUjS5a3g</ref> There was no contact with any other body parts of the boys.

According to the Web site of the California Department of Corrections & Rehabilitation, he is currently imprisoned at California State Prison Corcoran.<ref>http://inmatelocator.cdcr.ca.gov</ref>

==See also==
[[Fetish]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Erotic practice]]
[[Category:Law]]
[[Category:US law]]

Fetish

2016-05-15T09:41:42Z

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'''Fetish''' (or '''fetich''') is a term which originated in anthropology and which is used to describe a ''physical object'' which is assumed to have some kind of "magical" powers (e.g., amulets, talismans, etc.)

[[Psychiatry]], as it was then trying (and still is trying, so far fairly unsuccessfully) to establish itself in the late 19th and early 20th centuries as a ''real'' science (one based on empirical research , rather than simply on armchair philosophizing (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armchair_theorizing|at Wikipedia)] adopted the word (as another example of [[psychobabble]]), and then applied it to ''human behaviors'' (not simply to ''objects'') which the psychiatrists, for moral reasons, wished to "[[medicalize]]" or "[[demonize]]". "Fetishes" were categorized by the psychiatrists within another artificial category, [[paraphilia|paraphilias]]--a category which was ''another'' attempt to "medicalize" or "demonize" behaviors which the psychiatrists did not (on moral grounds) "approve of."

Fetishes are normal, though unusual behaviors (eating ''snails'' is also "normal"--but unusual--behavior, and being blond and blue-eyed is ''also'' a normal, but unusual characteristic outside of Scandinavian countries. But these are not called "fetishes").

Being sexually attracted to younger people, including prepubescent children, is ''also'' normal, though unusual, behavior. <nowiki><ref><nowiki>Filip on BoyChat gives references for this--this must be Googled for<nowiki></ref></nowiki>. But the ''psychiatrists'' have condemned this behavior, and they also support ''legal prohibitions'' on this behavior. Psychiatrists therefore allow their ''morality'' to influence what is supposed to be their impartial "scientific study" of human behavior!

===Noun===
# Something which is believed to possess, contain, or cause [[spiritual]] or [[magical]] powers; an [[amulet]] or a [[talisman]]. {{defdate|from the early 17th c.}}
# Something [[sexual]] or [[nonsexual]], such as an object or a part of the body, which arouses [[sexual]] [[desire]] or is necessary for one to reach full sexual satisfaction. {{defdate|from the early 19th c.}}
#: ''I know a guy who has a foot '''fetish'''.''
# {{label|en|US}} An [[irrational]], or [[abnormal]] [[fixation]] or [[preoccupation]]. {{defdate|from the 19th c.}}

#* '''1933''': ''We have a feeling that it must be "honest" work, because it is hard and disagreeable, and we have made a sort of '''fetish''' of manual work.'' -- George Orwell, ''Down and Out in Paris and London'', Ch. XXII, pg. 117 (Harvest / Harcourt paperback edition).

==References==
*(to be added)

==See also==
*[[Psychiatry]]
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[Medicalization]]
*(more to be added)

==External links==
*Wikipedia, of course, follows "the party line" and (mistakenly) assumes that psychiatry is a "science," so beware as you read this article:
:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_fetishism

[[Category:Sexuality]]
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Sexual predator

2016-05-15T09:40:27Z

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A '''sexual predator''' is (allegedly) a person who "preys on" the weak and defenseless by sexually assaulting ("preying on") them.

It is a neologism created by those wishing to monsterize<ref>Hopefully this term will become popular and be included in a forthcoming edition of the Oxford English dictionary, due to its appearance at BoyWiki. I mean, if it is good enough for Albert Ellis, it should be good enough for me... </ref> others who have sexual interests different from their own, as well as those who do truly physically attack and rape others.

Being deemed a "sexual predator" qualifies otherwise harmless BoyLovers--those who have been (unjustly) imprisoned for engaging in sexual (and sometimes even ''non''-sexual) relationships with boys--to be commitment (for up to life) in mental institutions, by civil commitment procedures which do not allow the BoyLover the right to legal representation or the right to otherwise defend his interests. It is a grave violation of basic human rights.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that "civil commitment" of "sexual predators" who have finished serving a court-ordered term in prison is ''not'' a violation of U.S. citizen's constitutional rights: it is not "double jeopardy," "cruel and unusual punishment," nor does it violate the amendment prohibiting ex-post facto laws.

==Reference==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Sexually violent predator]]
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[List of deceptive and derogatory terminology directed at boylovers]]

[[Category:Law]]
[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Dictionary]]

Gonadarche

2016-05-15T09:39:57Z

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'''Gonadarche''' refers to the earliest [[gonad]]al changes of [[puberty]].<ref>{{cite book|title=Handbook of Psychology|first1=Irving B. |last1=Weiner|first2= Donald K.|last2= Freedheim|first3= John A.|last3= Schinka|first4= Wayne F.|last4= Velicer|first5=Richard M.|last5= Lerner|publisher=John Wiley and Sons|year= 2003|isbn=0-471-38405-4|pages=298}}</ref> In response to [[pituitary gland|pituitary]] [[gonadotropin]]s, the [[ovary|ovaries]] in girls and the [[testis|testes]] in boys begin to grow and increase the production of the [[sex steroid]]s, especially [[estradiol]] and [[testosterone]].

* In boys, testicular enlargement is the first physical sign of gonadarche, and usually of [[puberty]] as it is generally thought of to be.
* In girls, ovarian growth cannot be directly seen, so [[thelarche]] and growth acceleration are usually the first evidence of gonadarche.

Gonadarche should be contrasted with [[adrenarche]]. Gonadarche is the visible process of change that a young person's body exhibits when puberty has begun, while adrenarche is the actual beginning of puberty in young people.

==Importance to BoyLovers==
BoyLovers who are [[pederasts]] are usually attracted to boys who ''already'' exhibit some secondary sexual characteristics, e.g. the growth of some body hair, etc. while "true" BoyLovers are generally attracted only to boys who have begun adrenarche (boys around age 8 and above) but who do ''not'' strongly exhibit any secondary sexual characteristics (boys who are under the age of around 12 or 13 years old).

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
:[[Adrenarche]]
:[[Peripubescence]]

==External links==

[[Category:Sexuality]]

Sexual abuse narrative

2016-05-15T09:37:28Z

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Narratives are created by those wishing to stereotype certain situations and behaviors.

The child abuse narrative, along with the [[rape narrative]], are paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing, respectively, adult-child sexual activity and paternalistic attitudes towards incest in society.

The "rape narrative," "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are little spoken about in public, due to the histrionics of those opposed to rational thinking about incest and adult-child [[sexual activity]]. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications which are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".

The "child abuse narrative" (falsely) claims that:
*"[[child sexual abuse]]" is common (they confound sexual ''abuse'' with sexual ''experiences'')
*adult-child sexual activities are characterized by:
::violence (false -- most adult-child sexual relationships do ''not'' involve any violence)
::fear (false -- most children involved are ''not'' afraid when the sexual activity takes place)
::physical and psychological trauma (false, in the majority of cases. Only force and violence cause trauma).
::force (false -- pedophiles almost never use any kind of force against children)
::threats (false -- threats are almost never a part of intergenerational sexual activities. But the adult may warn the child that "telling" may create serious problems, which is true)

==See also==
*[[Pedophile]]
*[[Heterosexual narrative]]
*[[Homosexual narrative]]
*[[rape narrative]]
*[[incest narrative]]
*[[objectify]]
*[[Child_sexual_abuse|child sexual abuse]]
*[[Sociogenesis]]
*[[Iatrogenesis]]
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[Pseudoscience]]
*[[Sexophobe]]
*[[Antisexual]]
*[[Child_sexual_abuse|child sexual abuse]]

*[[Boys on their contacts with men: a study of sexually expressed friendships (book)]]
*[[CRIME WITHOUT VICTIMS A book about paedophilia]]
*[[The Moralist (book)]]
*[[The Trauma Myth (Book)]]
*[[Sex Panic and the Punitive State (book)]]
*[[Whores_of_the_Court_(Book)]]

==External links==
*Wikipedia would ''never'' allow direct discussion or questioning of the narratives mentioned above, but the following articles do provide a little information.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrative
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Manning#Archetypes_and_rape
*This paper addresses the "child abuse narrative" and how it affects attitudes towards touch in pedagogical relationships:
*https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OhvTPKzfpDcJ:https://www.esrc.ac.uk/my-esrc/grants/RES-000-22-0815/outputs/Download/b6a92aee-a5a4-44a8-a582-8f8319c43f23&hl=en-FR&gbv=1&&ct=clnk
*the above as .PDF:
*https://www.esrc.ac.uk/my-esrc/grants/RES-000-22-0815/outputs/Download/b6a92aee-a5a4-44a8-a582-8f8319c43f23
*This paper - "Postcolonial Affects: Victim Life Narratives and Human Rights in Contemporary India" discusses the construction of narratives:
*https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8ebmj5fX9msJ:http://postcolonial.org/index.php/pct/article/download/1078/1027&hl=en-FR&gbv=1&filter=0&&ct=clnk
*the above as .PDF:
*http://postcolonial.org/index.php/pct/article/download/1078/1027

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Sexually violent predator

2016-05-15T09:33:34Z

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The phrase '''Sexually violent predator''' has entered law, especially those laws concerning the committal to mental institutions of men who have already served their sentences for [[sex offense|sex crimes]].

A '''sexually violent predator''' is described as (usually) a male who:
*has engaged in sexual activity with a minor (therefore, he is a "predator" who "preys on innocent, helpless children")
*must be, by definition, violent, as minors are said to ''never ever'' willingly engage in sexual activity with an adult. It is taken for granted that the adult ''must'' have used ''violence'' to ''force'' the "child" into engaging in unwilling sexual activity.

According to the [[rape narrative]] put forth by [[antisexuals]], [[sexophobes]], and [[radical feminists]], an adult male can ''never'' peacefully, and without the use of any kind of force or coercion, enter into a relationship with a willing minor that includes a sexual component. For them, this is an impossible concept.

==See also==
*[[Sexual violence]]
*[[Sexual predator]]

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[[Category:Sexuality]]

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Sexophobes

2016-05-15T09:32:58Z

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Sexual predator

2016-05-15T09:29:54Z

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Sexual predator

2016-05-15T09:28:40Z

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A '''sexual predator''' is (allegedly) a person who "preys on" the weak and defenseless by sexually assaulting ("preying on") them.

It is a neologism created by those wishing to monsterize<ref>Hopefully this term will become popular and be included in a forthcoming edition of the Oxford English dictionary, due to its appearance at BoyWiki. I mean, if it is good enough for Albert Ellis, it should be good enough for me... </ref> others who have sexual interests different from their own, as well as those who do truly physically attack and rape others.

Being deemed a "sexual predator" qualifies otherwise harmless BoyLovers--those who have been (unjustly) imprisoned for engaging in sexual (and sometimes even ''non''-sexual) relationships with boys--to be commitment (for up to life) in mental institutions, by civil commitment procedures which do not allow the BoyLover the right to legal representation or the right to otherwise defend his interests. It is a grave violation of basic human rights.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that "civil commitment" of "sexual predators" who have finished serving a court-ordered term in prison is ''not'' a violation of U.S. citizen's constitutional rights: it is not "double jeopardy," "cruel and unusual punishment," nor does it violate the amendment prohibiting ex-post facto laws.

==Reference==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[List of deceptive and derogatory terminology directed at boylovers]]

[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Dictionary]]

Sexual predator

2016-05-15T09:28:08Z

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A '''sexual predator''' is (allegedly) a person who "preys on" the weak and defenseless by sexually assaulting ("preying on") them.

It is a neologism created by those wishing to monsterize<ref>Hopefully this term will become popular and be included in a forthcoming edition of the Oxford English dictionary, due to its appearance at BoyWiki. I mean, if it is good enough for Albert Ellis, it should be good enough for me... </ref> others who have sexual interests different from their own, as well as those who do truly physically attack and rape others.

Being deemed a "sexual predator" qualifies otherwise harmless BoyLovers--those who have been (unjustly) imprisoned for engaging in sexual (and sometimes even ''non''-sexual) relationships with boys--to be commitment (for up to life) in mental institutions, by civil commitment procedures which do not allow the BoyLover the right to legal representation or the right to otherwise defend his interests. It is a grave violation of basic human rights.

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that "civil commitment" of "sexual predators" who have finished serving a court-ordered term in prison is ''not'' a violation of U.S. citizen's constitutional rights: it is not "double jeopardy," "cruel and unusual punishment," nor does it violate the amendment prohibiting ex-post facto laws.

==Reference==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Sexual predator]]
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[List of deceptive and derogatory terminology directed at boylovers]]

[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Dictionary]]

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2016-05-15T09:16:45Z

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Sexually violent predator

2016-05-15T09:16:45Z

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A '''sexually violent predator''' is a male (usually) who:
*has engaged in sexual activity with a minor (therefore, he is a "predator" who "preys on innocent, helpless children")
*must be, by definition, violent, as minors are said to ''never ever'' willingly engage in sexual activity with an adult. It is taken for granted that the adult ''must'' have used ''violence'' to ''force'' the "child" into engaging in unwilling sexual activity.

A male ''never'' can peacefully, and without using any kind of coercion, enter into a relationship that includes a sexual element with a willing minor. This is an impossible concept.

Inappropriate child sexual activity

2016-05-15T09:09:45Z

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'''Inappropriate child sexual activity''' is a {{w|buzzword}} used by [[sexophobe]]s and [[antisexual]]s to damn any form of [[sexual activity|child sexual activity]].

The use of terms such as "appropriate" or "inappropriate" are ''{{w|morality |moral}} value judgments'', and ''not'' the result of empirical scientific research into [[sexual activity|child sexuality]].

Serious sexologists consider any form of sexual expression by humans to be a valid subject of study, ''without'' making value judgments based on whatever personal moral belief system the sexologist may ascribe to. Those who use the term "inappropriate" when describing human sexual behavior immediately disqualify themselves from being called "serious sexologists".

==See also==
[[List of deceptive and derogatory terminology directed at boylovers]] (which is as yet mostly a list of terms, each one needing to (eventually) be "explained" further in new articles).


[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Research]]
[[Category:Buzzwords]]

Inappropriate child sexual activity

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User4:

'''Inappropriate child sexual activity''' is a {{w|buzzword}} used by [[sexophobe]]s and [[antisexual]]s to damn any form of [[sexual activity|child sexual activity]].

The use of terms such as "appropriate" or "inappropriate" are ''{{w|morality |moral}} value judgments'', and ''not'' the result of empirical scientific research into [[sexual activity|child sexuality]].

Serious sexologists consider any form of sexual expression by humans to be a valid subject of study, ''without'' making value judgments based on whatever personal moral belief system the sexologist may ascribe to. Those who use the term "inappropriate" when describing human sexual behavior immediately disqualify themselves from being called "serious sexologists".


[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Research]]
[[Category:Buzzwords]]

Sexually explicit conduct (dictionary)

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º{{Info box/dictionary|name=Sexually explicit conduct
|pos= ''n''
|1= Actual or simulated [[Sexual intercourse (dictionary)|sexual intercourse]], including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or of the opposite sex. Included are bestiality, masturbation, sadistic or masochistic abuse, and the lascivious exhibition of the genitals or of the pubic area of any person. 18 USC
}}

As Enochian at BoyChat explains:

'''[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1338273.htm The Magic Transposition of Two Words''']
::Posted by '''Enochian''' ''on 2013-March-12 12:43:58, Tuesday''

::"Notice how the postal service has invented the term "Sexually Explicit Conduct," designed to sound like "Explicit Sexual Conduct," but which can refer to simple nudity.

::"Nudity, photographed so the genitals are clearly visible, is "explicit." The kind of explicitness is "sexual." So nudity is Sexually Explicit Conduct, as opposed to Explicit Sexual Conduct, which is sexual acts shown explicitly.

::"This subtle transposition is lost on the typical reporter, who sees "Sexually Explicit Conduct," and writes a story about "sex acts" and ruined children.

::"Another of society's many problem that could be avoided if people were just a little bit more intelligent."

: To sum up the above:
: "Sexually Explicit Conduct" can refer to ''simple nudity'' (without showing any actual ''sexual activity'', like intercourse, fellatio, etc.)
: "Explicit Sexual Conduct" is sexual acts shown explicitly (intercourse, fellatio, etc., ''clearly displayed'').

Note also that ''no distinction is made'' between who is the ''active'' partner and who is the ''passive'' partner in any sexual act, leading to "the perpetrator" always being assumed to have been guilty of ''actively penetrating'' the minor during any sexual acts. In the case of a ''BoyLover'' who has in fact fellated (given a blow-job to) a ''boy'', the public will assume that it was the ''boy'' who was ''forced'' to fellate ''the BoyLover'', which is ''false''! ("Statutory rape" almost always is described in the press simply as "rape")

==See also==
[[List of deceptive and derogatory terminology directed at boylovers]] (which is just a list of terms, some of which already include links to new articles).
*[[Sodomy]]
*[[Rape (dictionary)]]
*[[Rape rape vs. "rape" rape]]
*[[Draft/Misleading words and phrases relating to BoyLove, BoyLovers, pedophiles, pederasts, etc.|Misleading words and phrases relating to BoyLove, BoyLovers, pedophiles, pederasts, etc.]] NOTE: Currently a "draft" article. This link will work when the article is moved out of "draft" status: [[Misleading words and phrases relating to BoyLove, BoyLovers, pedophiles, pederasts, etc.]]
*[[Lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person]]
[[Category:Dictionary]]
[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Law]]

==External link==
* [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256 18 U.S. Code § 2256 - Definitions for chapter]

Sexually explicit conduct (dictionary)

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º{{Info box/dictionary|name=Sexually explicit conduct
|pos= ''n''
|1= Actual or simulated [[Sexual intercourse (dictionary)|sexual intercourse]], including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or of the opposite sex. Included are bestiality, masturbation, sadistic or masochistic abuse, and the lascivious exhibition of the genitals or of the pubic area of any person. 18 USC
}}

As Enochian at BoyChat explains:

'''[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1338273.htm The Magic Transposition of Two Words''']
::Posted by '''Enochian''' ''on 2013-March-12 12:43:58, Tuesday''

::"Notice how the postal service has invented the term "Sexually Explicit Conduct," designed to sound like "Explicit Sexual Conduct," but which can refer to simple nudity.

::"Nudity, photographed so the genitals are clearly visible, is "explicit." The kind of explicitness is "sexual." So nudity is Sexually Explicit Conduct, as opposed to Explicit Sexual Conduct, which is sexual acts shown explicitly.

::"This subtle transposition is lost on the typical reporter, who sees "Sexually Explicit Conduct," and writes a story about "sex acts" and ruined children.

::"Another of society's many problem that could be avoided if people were just a little bit more intelligent."

: To sum up the above:
: "Sexually Explicit Conduct" can refer to ''simple nudity'' (without showing any actual ''sexual activity'', like intercourse, fellatio, etc.)
: "Explicit Sexual Conduct" is sexual acts shown explicitly (intercourse, fellatio, etc., ''clearly displayed'').

Note also that ''no distinction is made'' between who is the ''active'' partner and who is the ''passive'' partner in any sexual act, leading to "the perpetrator" always being assumed to have been guilty of ''actively penetrating'' the minor during any sexual acts. In the case of a ''BoyLover'' who has in fact fellated (given a blow-job to) a ''boy'', the public will assume that it was the ''boy'' who was ''forced'' to fellate ''the BoyLover'', which is ''false''! ("Statutory rape" almost always is described in the press simply as "rape")

==See also==
*[[Sodomy]]
*[[Rape (dictionary)]]
*[[Rape rape vs. "rape" rape]]
*[[Draft/Misleading words and phrases relating to BoyLove, BoyLovers, pedophiles, pederasts, etc.|Misleading words and phrases relating to BoyLove, BoyLovers, pedophiles, pederasts, etc.]] NOTE: Currently a "draft" article. This link will work when the article is moved out of "draft" status: [[Misleading words and phrases relating to BoyLove, BoyLovers, pedophiles, pederasts, etc.]]
*[[Lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person]]
[[Category:Dictionary]]
[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Law]]

==External link==
* [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256 18 U.S. Code § 2256 - Definitions for chapter]

Sexually explicit conduct (dictionary)

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º{{Info box/dictionary|name=Sexually explicit conduct
|pos= ''n''
|1= Actual or simulated [[Sexual intercourse (dictionary)|sexual intercourse]], including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or of the opposite sex. Included are bestiality, masturbation, sadistic or masochistic abuse, and the lascivious exhibition of the genitals or of the pubic area of any person. 18 USC
}}

As Enochian at BoyChat explains:

'''[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1338273.htm The Magic Transposition of Two Words''']
::Posted by '''Enochian''' ''on 2013-March-12 12:43:58, Tuesday''

::"Notice how the postal service has invented the term "Sexually Explicit Conduct," designed to sound like "Explicit Sexual Conduct," but which can refer to simple nudity.

::"Nudity, photographed so the genitals are clearly visible, is "explicit." The kind of explicitness is "sexual." So nudity is Sexually Explicit Conduct, as opposed to Explicit Sexual Conduct, which is sexual acts shown explicitly.

::"This subtle transposition is lost on the typical reporter, who sees "Sexually Explicit Conduct," and writes a story about "sex acts" and ruined children.

::"Another of society's many problem that could be avoided if people were just a little bit more intelligent."

: To sum up the above:
: "Sexually Explicit Conduct" can refer to ''simple nudity'' (without showing any actual ''sexual activity'', like intercourse, fellatio, etc.)
: "Explicit Sexual Conduct" is sexual acts shown explicitly (intercourse, fellatio, etc., ''clearly displayed'').

Note also that ''no distinction is made'' between who is the ''active'' partner and who is the ''passive'' partner in any sexual act, leading to "the perpetrator" always being assumed to have been guilty of ''actively penetrating'' the minor during any sexual acts. In the case of a ''BoyLover'' who has in fact fellated (given a blow-job to) a ''boy'', the public will assume that it was the ''boy'' who was ''forced'' to fellate ''the BoyLover'', which is ''false''! ("Statutory rape" almost always is described in the press simply as "rape")

==See also==
*[[Sodomy]]
*[[Rape (dictionary)]]
*[[Rape rape vs. "rape" rape]]
*[[Misleading words and phrases relating to BoyLove, BoyLovers, pedophiles, pederasts, etc.]]
*[[Lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person]]
[[Category:Dictionary]]
[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Law]]

==External link==
* [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256 18 U.S. Code § 2256 - Definitions for chapter]

Sexually explicit conduct (dictionary)

2016-05-15T08:47:18Z

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º{{Info box/dictionary|name=Sexually explicit conduct
|pos= ''n''
|1= Actual or simulated [[Sexual intercourse (dictionary)|sexual intercourse]], including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or of the opposite sex. Included are bestiality, masturbation, sadistic or masochistic abuse, and the lascivious exhibition of the genitals or of the pubic area of any person. 18 USC
}}

As Enochian at BoyChat explains:

'''[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1338273.htm The Magic Transposition of Two Words''']
::Posted by '''Enochian''' ''on 2013-March-12 12:43:58, Tuesday''

::"Notice how the postal service has invented the term "Sexually Explicit Conduct," designed to sound like "Explicit Sexual Conduct," but which can refer to simple nudity.

::"Nudity, photographed so the genitals are clearly visible, is "explicit." The kind of explicitness is "sexual." So nudity is Sexually Explicit Conduct, as opposed to Explicit Sexual Conduct, which is sexual acts shown explicitly.

::"This subtle transposition is lost on the typical reporter, who sees "Sexually Explicit Conduct," and writes a story about "sex acts" and ruined children.

::"Another of society's many problem that could be avoided if people were just a little bit more intelligent."

: To sum up the above:
: "Sexually Explicit Conduct" can refer to ''simple nudity'' (without showing any actual ''sexual activity'', like intercourse, fellatio, etc.)
: "Explicit Sexual Conduct" is sexual acts shown explicitly (intercourse, fellatio, etc., ''clearly displayed'').

Note also that ''no distinction is made'' between who is the ''active'' partner and who is the ''passive'' partner in any sexual act, leading to "the perpetrator" always being assumed to have been guilty of ''actively penetrating'' the minor during any sexual acts. In the case of a ''BoyLover'' who has in fact fellated (given a blow-job to) a ''boy'', the public will assume that it was the ''boy'' who was ''forced'' to fellate ''the BoyLover'', which is ''false''! ("Statutory rape" almost always is described in the press simply as "rape")

==See also==
*[[Sodomy]]
*[[Lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person]]
[[Category:Dictionary]]
[[Category:Sexuality]]
[[Category:Law]]

==External link==
* [https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2256 18 U.S. Code § 2256 - Definitions for chapter]

Sexually explicit conduct

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Psychiatry

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'''Psychiatry''' is the branch of medicine concerned with the study and treatment of mental illness, emotional disturbance, and abnormal behavior. Psychiatrists are medical doctors, who are also qualified in the field of psychology, which is the claimed to be "the scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behavior in a given context." In fact, much of what are called "disorders," which [[mental health professionals]] claim to treat, have ''absolutely no basis in medical research'' based on the [[scientific method]].

The term "psychiatry" was first coined by the German physician Johann Christian Reil in 1808 and literally means the 'medical treatment of the soul' (psych- "soul" from Ancient Greek psykhē "soul"; -iatry "medical treatment" from Gk. iātrikos "medical" from iāsthai "to heal").

==Quote from Allen Francis, the lead editor of the [[DSM]]-IV==
:“[T]here is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bullshit. I mean, you just can’t define it.” <ref>http://www.wired.com/2010/12/ff_dsmv/</ref>

==Problems with definitions==

===What is "normal" and what is "''ab''normal"===
''Real doctors'' can tell you what is "normal" and what is "''ab''normal" about the human ''body''. Human bodies have been very carefully studied, and what is normal and ''ab''normal has been confirmed by following the {{w|scientific method}}.

But psychiatrists and psychologist define human thoughts (the "mind") and human behavior as being "normal" or "''ab''normal" ''not'' based on real science or on experimentation, but simply by ''definition''.

They ''define'' whatever behavior or thought processes they choose as being "normal" (based on their {{w|morality|moral judgements}}) and then condemn anyone whom they (falsely) call "''abnormal''" to being "treated" for an "illness" or a "disorder" that is ''not'' even proven to exist.

In other words, ''they themselves'' define large numbers of people as being in need of "treatment", people who can then only be treated (very profitably, we might add) by the psychiatrists and psychologists themselves!

===What is an "illness"?===
What is a physical illness? When a person is ''physically'' ill, he goes to a doctor. The doctor runs standardized medical tests to determine what the problem is. It may be an infection (which can usually be treated with antibiotics) or it may be an injury (which perhaps can be treated with surgery, or just left alone to cure itself) or it may be a "malfunction" of an organ, which, again, may or may not benefit from surgery or drug therapy.

All of the above involve standardized tests, which have been proven to work. They are based on tests which have been ''confirmed'' by many clinicians to be reliable tests. There is very little "guesswork" involved (usually). Either the doctor already knows how to treat the problem, or he just enters the symptoms into a computer program (if the illness is unusual), and the computer program suggests what the diagnosis probably is, and what treatment should be. It is all very scientific.

===What is a ''mental'' illness?===
A "mental illness" is a problem not with the ''body'' but with the ''mind''. Just what is "the mind"? Nobody really knows. Philosophers have been arguing about what "the mind" is for thousands of years.

How about according to the current state of knowledge? Can you perform an autopsy on "a mind" after a person's death? No. Can you use x-rays on "a mind"? No. Can "a mind" be measured in a laboratory, for example, to compare two person's "minds" and discover which person's "mind" is larger, smaller, lighter, heavier, etc? No.

Science does know that a "mind" is something that results from having a ''brain''. When a person dies, he no longer has "a mind". But weighing a person just before death and just after death discovers that there is no difference in weight! "A mind" doesn't weigh anything at all.

Doctors ''have'' figured out some things about the brain. If the brain is physically damaged, there are certain symptoms -- again, symptoms that are well-established, that have been carefully studied and confirmed by other medical doctors in carefully done clinical experiments. If one part of the brain is damaged, a person goes blind. If another part is damaged, the person becomes deaf. There is no question about these symptoms. They are facts.

But if "a mind" is ill, how can "the illness" be diagnosed? It cannot be diagnosed in the usual way that doctors diagnose illnesses. In fact, if one goes to ten different ''medical doctors'' with a certain ''physical complaint'', then almost always the diagnosis from the ten different medical doctors will be ''absolutely identical''. This is not surprising, because the medical doctors are basing their diagnosis on scientific experiments that have been confirmed and are not in any way in doubt.

On the ''other'' hand, if one goes to ten different ''psychiatrists'' with a "mental complaint" you are likely to get ten different diagnosis! This should seem very strange to a rational person. If the psychiatrists actually know what they are doing, and their "diagnosis" are based on confirmed medical science, then they all should come up with ''the same'' diagnosis almost all of the time!

But they ''don't''! So what, then, ''is'' a "mental illness"? A "mental illness" is what a small group of psychiatrists have ''voted to be "a mental illness.'' In fact, the number of so-called "mental illnesses" listed in the [[DSM]] (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual written by the American Psychiatric Association [which, by the way, contains ''no statistics''] have grown tremendously since the DSM-I was first published in 1952, described 11 categories of mental disorders, while the current DSM -- {{w|DSM-5}} -- now has 15 chapters and ''thousands and thousands'' of diagnosis for "mental disorders". In fact, just about ''everyone in the world'' has some kind of "mental disorder," according to the psychiatrists!

A regular medical doctor diagnoses things about the body that are "abnormal". This can be fairly easily done, because enough is known about "the normal" human body for him to do so. There are few if any differences between a "normal" body in one culture, and a "normal" body in another.

But when it comes to ''the mind'' we find that there is ''not'' much agreement about what is a "normal" mind and what is an "abnormal" mind. In fact, what can be "normal behavior" typical of a "normal mind" in ''one'' society can be ''abnormal'' behavior typical of an "abnormal mind" in another!

==Criticisms of Psychiatry==
The psychiatric profession purports to be the sole arbiter on the subject of mental health and and "diseases" of the mind. The facts, however, demonstrate otherwise<ref>"Eroding Justice: Psychiatry’s Corruption of Law", Report and recommendations on psychiatry subverting the courts and corrective services; Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, 2004</ref>:
*1. PSYCHIATRIC "DISORDERS" ARE NOT MEDICAL DISEASES.
:In medicine, strict criteria exist for calling a condition a disease: a predictable group of symptoms and the cause of the symptoms or an understanding of their physiology (function) must be proven and established. Chills and fever are symptoms. Malaria and typhoid are diseases. Diseases are proven to exist by objective evidence and physical tests. Yet, no mental "diseases" have ever been proven to medically exist.
*2. PSYCHIATRISTS DEAL EXCLUSIVELY WITH MENTAL "DISORDERS," NOT PROVEN DISEASES.
:While mainstream physical medicine treats diseases, psychiatry can only deal with "disorders." In the absence of a known cause or physiology, a group of symptoms seen in many different patients is called a ''disorder'' or ''syndrome''. Harvard Medical School's Joseph Glenmullen, M.D., says that in psychiatry, "all of its diagnoses are merely syndromes [or disorders], clusters of symptoms presumed to be related, not diseases." As Dr. Thomas Szasz, professor of psychiatry emeritus, observes, "There is no blood or other biological test to ascertain the presence or absence of a mental illness, as there is for most bodily diseases."
*3. PSYCHIATRY HAS NEVER ESTABLISHED THE CAUSE OF ANY "MENTAL DISORDERS."
:Leading psychiatric agencies such as the World Psychiatric Association and the U.S. National Institute of Mental Health admit that psychiatrists do not know the causes or cures for any mental disorder or what their "treatments" specifically do to the patient. They have only theories and conflicting opinions about their diagnoses and methods, and are lacking any scientific basis for these. As a past president of the World Psychiatric Association stated, "The time when psychiatrists considered that they could cure the mentally ill is gone. In the future, the mentally ill have to learn to live with their illness."
*4. THE THEORY THAT MENTAL DISORDERS DERIVE FROM A "CHEMICAL IMBALANCE" IN THE BRAIN IS UNPROVEN OPINION, NOT FACT
:One prevailing psychiatric theory (key to psychotropic drug sales) is that mental disorders result from a chemical imbalance in the brain. As with its other theories, there is no biological or other evidence to prove this. Representative of a large group of medical and biochemistry experts, Elliot Valenstein, Ph.D., author of ''Blaming the Brain'' says: "[T]here are no tests available for assessing the chemical status of a living person's brain.
*5. THE BRAIN IS NOT THE REAL CAUSE OF LIFE'S PROBLEMS.
:People do experience problems and upsets in life that may result in mental troubles, sometimes very serious. But to represent that these troubles are caused by incurable "brain diseases" that can only be alleviated with dangerous pills is dishonest, harmful and often deadly. Such drugs are often more potent than a narcotic and capable of driving one to violence or suicide. They mask the real cause of problems in life and debilitate the individual, so denying him or her the opportunity for real recovery and hope for the future.

==Psychiatry and pharmaceutical companies==
Psychiatrists, being medical doctors, can prescribe hundreds of different drugs which are claimed to "be effective" in "treating" "mental illnesses". Where in the past, a psychiatrist would have to spend an hour (really, just 50 minutes) with a "patient" to justify billing the patient, today a psychiatrist can write ''dozens'' of prescription in an hour, and charge the usual one-hour minimum fee for writing ''each prescription''. This provides a tremendous incentive to the psychiatrist to prescribe more medication. Also, this means that psychiatrists and the pharmaceutical companies have a potential "conflict of interest" (if their interests should be "at arms length" from each other).

===Efficacy of pharmaceutical drugs for treating "mental illnesses"===
The efficacy (effectiveness) of the various drugs prescribed by psychiatrists have been questioned.

*The studies of the pharmaceutical companies done on their drugs before being approved usually have not been open to peer review by other scientists.

*It is more common than not that a psychiatrist will prescribe a series of medications to a single patient, looking for "one that seems to work". This is a "hit-and-miss" method of treatment, one which is almost never used in standard medical treatment for physical illnesses.

*Oftentimes there are very serious side-effects to these drugs. Many suicides among young people (including children) have been attributed to "side-effects" of the drugs prescribed to them. Warnings have been placed on many drugs about these potentially lethal side-effects.

*Comparison studies have indicated that it may be the {{w|placebo}} effect which brings about any "cures".

*Because we are talking about the "state of a person's mind," when the patient reports positive benefits from the drug treatment, there is absolutely no way to objectively determine whether the "benefits" are real, or only imagined by the patient.

This above list is not complete, but it covers many of the main criticisms.

==Psychiatry and BoyLovers==

The American Psychiatric Association has decreed that:
:"children cannot consent to sexual activity with adults"
And condemns any such action by an adult:
*"An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act which never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior."

Psychiatrists, who are supposed to be ''medical doctors'' (''not'' criminologists or moralists) have passed sentence on BoyLovers, and have labeled them as being guilty of "criminal" as well as "immoral" acts! They (falsely) claim that intergenerational sexual activity can "never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior," despite the fact that ''throughout history'' such relationships ''have'' been considered "normal" and "socially acceptable" in many societies.
* American Psychological Association (June 9, 1999). "[http://web.archive.org/web/19991010055703/http://www.apa.org/releases/delay.html APA Letter to the Honorable Rep. DeLay (R-Tx)"]. Press release. Archived from the original on October 10, 1999.

It is ''the psychiatrists'' who have [[medicalization|medicalized]] the question of human sexual behavior. What previously had been ''ethical'' questions regarding "right" and "wrong" human sexual behavior, dealt with by ''religious teachings'', have now become ''medical problems'' dealt with by "doctors".

Psychiatrists often are involved in the trials of BoyLovers (by serving as "expert witnesses"), and in the decisions regarding "[[Civil Commitment]]" as "sexual predators" to confinement in mental hospitals ''after'' the prison sentence of the BoyLover has been been served. Until the BoyLover is no longer "a threat to society" he can be held prisoner in a mental hospital.

For many BoyLovers, this has meant a ''life sentence'' in a mental hospital.

==See also==
*[[Psychopathia Sexualis]], ''Psychopathia Sexualis: eine Klinisch-Forensische Studie'' (Sexual Psychopathy: A Clinical-Forensic Study) by 19th-century psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing - the "inventor" of most current "sexual disorders"
* The exact chapter from his above book, in which he creates "pedophilia" as a "psychological perversion":
:[[Psychopathia Sexualis Ch. V part 6]]
*[[The DSM: Psychiatry's Deadliest Scam (film)]]
*[[Psychiatry: An Industry of Death (film)]]
*[[The Drugging Of Our Children (film)]]
*[[Whores of the Court (book)]]
*[[Sex positive vs sex negative cultures]]
*[[Therapy for pedophilia/pedophiles]]
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[List of derogatory terminology directed at boylovers]]
*[[Iatrogenesis]]
*[[Pseudoscience]]
*[[Learned Helplessness]]
*[[American Psychiatric Association]]
*[[B4U-ACT]]
*[[Chemical castration]]
*[[mental health professional]]
*[[What if Astrologers took over the government?]] (Short essay)

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.wired.com/2010/12/ff_dsmv/ Inside the Battle to Define Mental Illness]
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20160310135341/http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/making-it-all/1042807 Making It All Up: The behavioral sciences scandal]
*{{w|Psychiatry}} at Wikipedia

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Psychiatry

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'''Psychiatry''' is the branch of medicine concerned with the study and treatment of mental illness, emotional disturbance, and abnormal behavior. Psychiatrists are medical doctors, who are also qualified in the field of psychology, which is the claimed to be "the scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behavior in a given context." In fact, much of what are called "disorders," which [[mental health professionals]] claim to treat, have ''absolutely no basis in medical research'' based on the [[scientific method]].

The term "psychiatry" was first coined by the German physician Johann Christian Reil in 1808 and literally means the 'medical treatment of the soul' (psych- "soul" from Ancient Greek psykhē "soul"; -iatry "medical treatment" from Gk. iātrikos "medical" from iāsthai "to heal").

==Quote from Allen Francis, the lead editor of the [[DSM]]-IV==
:“[T]here is no definition of a mental disorder. It’s bullshit. I mean, you just can’t define it.” <ref>http://www.wired.com/2010/12/ff_dsmv/</ref>

==Problems with definitions==

===What is "normal" and what is "''ab''normal"===
''Real doctors'' can tell you what is "normal" and what is "''ab''normal" about the human ''body''. Human bodies have been very carefully studied, and what is normal and ''ab''normal has been confirmed by following the {{w|scientific method}}.

But psychiatrists and psychologist define human thoughts (the "mind") and human behavior as being "normal" or "''ab''normal" ''not'' based on real science or on experimentation, but simply by ''definition''.

They ''define'' whatever behavior or thought processes they choose as being "normal" (based on their {{w|morality|moral judgements}}) and then condemn anyone whom they (falsely) call "''abnormal''" to being "treated" for an "illness" or a "disorder" that is ''not'' even proven to exist.

In other words, ''they themselves'' define large numbers of people as being in need of "treatment", people who can then only be treated (very profitably, we might add) by the psychiatrists and psychologists themselves!

===What is an "illness"?===
What is a physical illness? When a person is ''physically'' ill, he goes to a doctor. The doctor runs standardized medical tests to determine what the problem is. It may be an infection (which can usually be treated with antibiotics) or it may be an injury (which perhaps can be treated with surgery, or just left alone to cure itself) or it may be a "malfunction" of an organ, which, again, may or may not benefit from surgery or drug therapy.

All of the above involve standardized tests, which have been proven to work. They are based on tests which have been ''confirmed'' by many clinicians to be reliable tests. There is very little "guesswork" involved (usually). Either the doctor already knows how to treat the problem, or he just enters the symptoms into a computer program (if the illness is unusual), and the computer program suggests what the diagnosis probably is, and what treatment should be. It is all very scientific.

===What is a ''mental'' illness?===
A "mental illness" is a problem not with the ''body'' but with the ''mind''. Just what is "the mind"? Nobody really knows. Philosophers have been arguing about what "the mind" is for thousands of years.

How about according to the current state of knowledge? Can you perform an autopsy on "a mind" after a person's death? No. Can you use x-rays on "a mind"? No. Can "a mind" be measured in a laboratory, for example, to compare two person's "minds" and discover which person's "mind" is larger, smaller, lighter, heavier, etc? No.

Science does know that a "mind" is something that results from having a ''brain''. When a person dies, he no longer has "a mind". But weighing a person just before death and just after death discovers that there is no difference in weight! "A mind" doesn't weigh anything at all.

Doctors ''have'' figured out some things about the brain. If the brain is physically damaged, there are certain symptoms -- again, symptoms that are well-established, that have been carefully studied and confirmed by other medical doctors in carefully done clinical experiments. If one part of the brain is damaged, a person goes blind. If another part is damaged, the person becomes deaf. There is no question about these symptoms. They are facts.

But if "a mind" is ill, how can "the illness" be diagnosed? It cannot be diagnosed in the usual way that doctors diagnose illnesses. In fact, if one goes to ten different ''medical doctors'' with a certain ''physical complaint'', then almost always the diagnosis from the ten different medical doctors will be ''absolutely identical''. This is not surprising, because the medical doctors are basing their diagnosis on scientific experiments that have been confirmed and are not in any way in doubt.

On the ''other'' hand, if one goes to ten different ''psychiatrists'' with a "mental complaint" you are likely to get ten different diagnosis! This should seem very strange to a rational person. If the psychiatrists actually know what they are doing, and their "diagnosis" are based on confirmed medical science, then they all should come up with ''the same'' diagnosis almost all of the time!

But they ''don't''! So what, then, ''is'' a "mental illness"? A "mental illness" is what a small group of psychiatrists have ''voted to be "a mental illness.'' In fact, the number of so-called "mental illnesses" listed in the [[DSM]] (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual written by the American Psychiatric Association [which, by the way, contains ''no statistics''] have grown tremendously since the DSM-I was first published in 1952, described 11 categories of mental disorders, while the current DSM -- {{w|DSM-5}} -- now has 15 chapters and ''thousands and thousands'' of diagnosis for "mental disorders". In fact, just about ''everyone in the world'' has some kind of "mental disorder," according to the psychiatrists!

A regular medical doctor diagnoses things about the body that are "abnormal". This can be fairly easily done, because enough is known about "the normal" human body for him to do so. There are few if any differences between a "normal" body in one culture, and a "normal" body in another.

But when it comes to ''the mind'' we find that there is ''not'' much agreement about what is a "normal" mind and what is an "abnormal" mind. In fact, what can be "normal behavior" typical of a "normal mind" in ''one'' society can be ''abnormal'' behavior typical of an "abnormal mind" in another!

==Criticisms of Psychiatry==
The psychiatric profession purports to be the sole arbiter on the subject of mental health and and "diseases" of the mind. The facts, however, demonstrate otherwise<ref>"Eroding Justice: Psychiatry’s Corruption of Law", Report and recommendations on psychiatry subverting the courts and corrective services; Citizen's Commission on Human Rights, 2004</ref>:
*1. PSYCHIATRIC "DISORDERS" ARE NOT MEDICAL DISEASES.
:In medicine, strict criteria exist for calling a condition a disease: a predictable group of symptoms and the cause of the symptoms or an understanding of their physiology (function) must be proven and established. Chills and fever are symptoms. Malaria and typhoid are diseases. Diseases are proven to exist by objective evidence and physical tests. Yet, no mental "diseases" have ever been proven to medically exist.
*2. PSYCHIATRISTS DEAL EXCLUSIVELY WITH MENTAL "DISORDERS," NOT PROVEN DISEASES.
:While mainstream physical medicine treats diseases, psychiatry can only deal with "disorders." In the absence of a known cause or physiology, a group of symptoms seen in many different patients is called a ''disorder'' or ''syndrome''. Harvard Medical School's Joseph Glenmullen, M.D., says that in psychiatry, "all of its diagnoses are merely syndromes [or disorders], clusters of symptoms presumed to be related, not diseases." As Dr. Thomas Szasz, professor of psychiatry emeritus, observes, "There is no blood or other biological test to ascertain the presence or absence of a mental illness, as there is for most bodily diseases."
*3. PSYCHIATRY HAS NEVER ESTABLISHED THE CAUSE OF ANY "MENTAL DISORDERS."
:Leading psychiatric agencies such as the World Psychiatric Association and the U.S. National Institute of Mental Health admit that psychiatrists do not know the causes or cures for any mental disorder or what their "treatments" specifically do to the patient. They have only theories and conflicting opinions about their diagnoses and methods, and are lacking any scientific basis for these. As a past president of the World Psychiatric Association stated, "The time when psychiatrists considered that they could cure the mentally ill is gone. In the future, the mentally ill have to learn to live with their illness."
*4. THE THEORY THAT MENTAL DISORDERS DERIVE FROM A "CHEMICAL IMBALANCE" IN THE BRAIN IS UNPROVEN OPINION, NOT FACT
:One prevailing psychiatric theory (key to psychotropic drug sales) is that mental disorders result from a chemical imbalance in the brain. As with its other theories, there is no biological or other evidence to prove this. Representative of a large group of medical and biochemistry experts, Elliot Valenstein, Ph.D., author of ''Blaming the Brain'' says: "[T]here are no tests available for assessing the chemical status of a living person's brain.
*5. THE BRAIN IS NOT THE REAL CAUSE OF LIFE'S PROBLEMS.
:People do experience problems and upsets in life that may result in mental troubles, sometimes very serious. But to represent that these troubles are caused by incurable "brain diseases" that can only be alleviated with dangerous pills is dishonest, harmful and often deadly. Such drugs are often more potent than a narcotic and capable of driving one to violence or suicide. They mask the real cause of problems in life and debilitate the individual, so denying him or her the opportunity for real recovery and hope for the future.

==Psychiatry and pharmaceutical companies==
Psychiatrists, being medical doctors, can prescribe hundreds of different drugs which are claimed to "be effective" in "treating" "mental illnesses". Where in the past, a psychiatrist would have to spend an hour (really, just 50 minutes) with a "patient" to justify billing the patient, today a psychiatrist can write ''dozens'' of prescription in an hour, and charge the usual one-hour minimum fee for writing ''each prescription''. This provides a tremendous incentive to the psychiatrist to prescribe more medication. Also, this means that psychiatrists and the pharmaceutical companies have a potential "conflict of interest" (if their interests should be "at arms length" from each other).

===Efficacy of pharmaceutical drugs for treating "mental illnesses"===
The efficacy (effectiveness) of the various drugs prescribed by psychiatrists have been questioned.

*The studies of the pharmaceutical companies done on their drugs before being approved usually have not been open to peer review by other scientists.

*It is more common than not that a psychiatrist will prescribe a series of medications to a single patient, looking for "one that seems to work". This is a "hit-and-miss" method of treatment, one which is almost never used in standard medical treatment for physical illnesses.

*Oftentimes there are very serious side-effects to these drugs. Many suicides among young people (including children) have been attributed to "side-effects" of the drugs prescribed to them. Warnings have been placed on many drugs about these potentially lethal side-effects.

*Comparison studies have indicated that it may be the {{w|placebo}} effect which brings about any "cures".

*Because we are talking about the "state of a person's mind," when the patient reports positive benefits from the drug treatment, there is absolutely no way to objectively determine whether the "benefits" are real, or only imagined by the patient.

This above list is not complete, but it covers many of the main criticisms.

==Psychiatry and BoyLovers==

The American Psychiatric Association has decreed that:
:"children cannot consent to sexual activity with adults"
And condemns any such action by an adult:
*"An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act which never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior."

Psychiatrists, who are supposed to be ''medical doctors'' (''not'' criminologists or moralists) have passed sentence on BoyLovers, and have labeled them as being guilty of "criminal" as well as "immoral" acts! They (falsely) claim that intergenerational sexual activity can "never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior," despite the fact that ''throughout history'' such relationships ''have'' been considered "normal" and "socially acceptable" in many societies.
* American Psychological Association (June 9, 1999). "[http://web.archive.org/web/19991010055703/http://www.apa.org/releases/delay.html APA Letter to the Honorable Rep. DeLay (R-Tx)"]. Press release. Archived from the original on October 10, 1999.

It is ''the psychiatrists'' who have [[medicalization|medicalized]] the question of human sexual behavior. What previously had been ''ethical'' questions regarding "right" and "wrong" human sexual behavior, dealt with by ''religious teachings'', have now become ''medical problems'' dealt with by "doctors".

Psychiatrists often are involved in the trials of BoyLovers (by serving as "expert witnesses"), and in the decisions regarding "[[Civil Commitment]]" as "sexual predators" to confinement in mental hospitals ''after'' the prison sentence of the BoyLover has been been served. Until the BoyLover is no longer "a threat to society" he can be held prisoner in a mental hospital.

For many BoyLovers, this has meant a ''life sentence'' in a mental hospital.

==See also==
*[[Psychopathia Sexualis]], ''Psychopathia Sexualis: eine Klinisch-Forensische Studie'' (Sexual Psychopathy: A Clinical-Forensic Study) by 19th-century psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing - the "inventor" of most current "sexual disorders"
* The exact chapter from his above book, in which he creates "pedophilia" as a "psychological perversion":
:[[Psychopathia Sexualis Ch. V part 6]]
*[[The DSM: Psychiatry's Deadliest Scam (film)]]
*[[Psychiatry: An Industry of Death (film)]]
*[[The Drugging Of Our Children (film)]]
*[[Whores of the Court (book)]]
*[[Sex positive vs sex negative cultures]]
*[[Therapy for pedophilia/pedophiles]]
*[[Psychobabble]]
*[[List of derogatory terminology directed at boylovers]]
*[[Iatrogenesis]]
*[[Pseudoscience]]
*[[Learned Helplessness]]
*[[American Psychiatric Association]]
*[[B4U-ACT]]
*[[Chemical castration]]
*[[mental health professional]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.wired.com/2010/12/ff_dsmv/ Inside the Battle to Define Mental Illness]
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20160310135341/http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/making-it-all/1042807 Making It All Up: The behavioral sciences scandal]
*{{w|Psychiatry}} at Wikipedia

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A '''thoughtcrime''' is an occurrence or instance of controversial or socially unacceptable thoughts. The term is also used to describe some theological concepts such as disbelief or idolatry, <ref>Papers in Ethics and Social Philosophy: - Volume 3 - Page 107, David Lewis - 2000</ref> or a rejection of strong philosophical or social principles. <ref> Evidence, Policy and Practice: Critical Perspectives in Health and Social Care, Jon Glasby - 2011, p 22</ref>

The term was popularized in the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, wherein thoughtcrime is the criminal act of holding unspoken beliefs or doubts that oppose or question the ruling party. In the book, the government attempts to control not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects. To entertain unacceptable thoughts is known as crimethink in Newspeak, the ideologically purified dialect of the party. <ref> Orwell, George; Rovere, Richard Halworth (1984) [1956], The Orwell Reader: Fiction, Essays, and Reportage, San Diego: Harcourt, Brace, p. 409, ISBN 0-15-670176-6.</ref> "Crimestop" is a way to avoid crimethink by immediately purging dangerous thoughts from the mind.

==Summary==

Some modern publishers have described people who were being prosecuted and burned at the stake for heresy in various Abrahamic religions, as being victims of thoughtcrime laws. Such victims of thoughtcrime laws would sometimes be offered the chance to repent for their thoughtcrimes. <ref>Renaissance Self-Fashioning: From More to Shakespeare, Stephen Greenblatt - 2012</ref>

People were similarly executed, or imprisoned in concentration camps, for thoughtcrime during the 20th century in totalitarian regimes, such as Stalinist USSR, Maoist China, and Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge.

The word is also used in instances where people are prevented from voicing opinions which are politically incorrect or which others may potentially be offended by. This prevention may affect speech, writing, and other forms of expression. The punishment of apostasy in sharia law is sometimes interpreted as being the death penalty, which has been described as a thoughtcrime. <ref>Critique: Review of the Department of State's Country Reports on Human Rights Practices- Page 330, Lawyers Committee for Human Rights, 1992</ref>

==BoyLover "thought crimes"==
BoyLovers are being prosecuted for "thought crimes". A common argument for harsh punishment of [[child pornography]] offenders is that their thought patterns may put them at higher risk of having sex with children.

Psychological evaluations are already being used as evidence for determining what sentences should be imposed on boylovers in the criminal justice system, and whether people who have not been convicted of any crime against minors should be allowed to raise their own children (see ''[[Santosky v. Kramer]]'', allowing parental rights to be terminated if certain findings are made based on [[clear and convincing evidence]]). Advances in brain imaging and neuroscience may make it easier to identify a person's "dangerous" thoughtcrimes for forensic purposes.<ref>http://arstechnica.com/science/2011/02/thoughtcrime-the-ethics-of-neuroscience-and-criminality/</ref>

The [[Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders]] is essentially a statute book of forbidden thought patterns, promulgated by the quasi-legislative [[American Psychiatric Association]]. Having a mental disorder that poses a danger to oneself or others allows courts to take away the person's liberty without his having been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of having committed a crime, per ''[[Addington v. Texas]]''.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Thoughtcrime (dictionary)]]
*[[Psychiatry]]
*[[psychobabble]]
*[[When "making friends" becomes a "crime"!]]
*[[Child pornography]]

==External links==
*Read online/download "The Perverse Law of Child Pornography by Amy Adler at this link:
:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc18/view.php?id=9294&da=y

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'''Child pornography''' is any depiction (image or video) or written description (story, etc.) that involves a child and that violates legal prohibitions against child pornography. The definition is necessarily circular, since the numerous and varied laws that apply to this subject make a more concise definition virtually impossible to formulate. In addition, the definitions tend broaden over time rendering controversial any number of things that may have been legal previously.

"Child erotica" is a more neutral term for "child pornography". "Child erotica" may or may not include overt sexual activity, and may or may not be illegal, depending on how the law is applied in any particular jurisdiction.

== History ==

Before the mid 1970s, "child pornography" was available legally in most countries, including the [[United States]]. With the advent of [[child abuse]] legislation in the mid 1970s, however, anti-pornography advocates and other social and religious conservatives argued against child pornography since they claim that the production of child pornography may involve [[child sexual abuse]]. Even though scholars have challenged whether child pornography (in the broad sense) involves child sexual abuse (see Schuijer and Rossen 1992), whether child sexual abuse (again broadly defined) can lead to psychological trauma (see the [[Rind Report]] and [The Trauma Myth (book)]), and whether it can lead people to offend against children (see Howitt 1995), many people today are convinced that producing, distributing or possessing child pornography is even ''worse'' than child abuse. Even though all adult-child sex is declared, inaccurately, to be abusive and criminal, child pornography, their minds, is worse. It's child abuse made into a movie, for men to masturbate to. It confirms for doubting pedos that kids can really enjoy sex.

In the decision by the US Supreme Court on April 23, 2014, ''[[Voodoo Molestation and US Law|Doyle Randall Paroline v. United States, et al.]]'' <ref>[http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Paroline_v_United_States_No_128561_2014_BL_112162_US_Apr_23_2014_/1 DOYLE RANDALL PAROLINE, PETITIONER v. UNITED STATES, ET AL. ]</ref>, it was adjudicated that ''restitution'' can be awarded based not only on the manufacture, sale, or distribution of child pornography, but can be collected from all those who have been convicted of viewing the image, based on the magical belief <ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking</ref> that the act of viewing the image has essentially caused damage to the soul of the person depicted.

== Definition ==

This has led to broadening the definition of child pornography. In general child pornography is understood as pornography featuring children (i.e. images of children involved in sexual activity). Over the years the definition has become broader to the following ways:

*'''Age of the "child"'''. The child is not defined nowadays as a prepubescent person, but as a person under the [[age of consent]] (usually between 15 and 18), or more strictly under the age of 18, or more broadly, according to the council of the [[European Union]] decision ([http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/lex/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32004F0068:EN:HTML|E.U. Council Decision 2004/68/JHA]), "a person appearing to be a child" (which may be an adult over 18 who can pass as 16). {{uscsub|18|2256|1}} defines a minor as any person under the age of eighteen years, so it is possible for a person who takes sexually explicit photographs of his 17-year-old spouse to be convicted of child pornography production, even if there was no state law against such conduct. There have been cases in which naked "selfies" (pictures of oneself) have been deemed child pornography, in which case the child is both the injurer and the injured. [[Families Against Mandatory Minimums]] has expressed concerns over the [[mandatory minimum penalties]] established for these offenses, arguing that they sometimes result in absurd sentences, such as a 15-year sentence in a case involving a victim who consented and was of legal age to marry the offender.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.famm.org/federal/ChildPornographyOffenses.aspx|title=Child Pornography Offenses|author=Families Against Mandatory Minimums}}</ref>
*'''Nakedness of the "child"'''. According to ''[[United States v. Knox]]'' the "child" in question does not need to be nude as long as there is a "actual or simulated lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area." An image of a "child's" (broadly defined as above) crotch in underwear may fall under this definition.(see [[Azov Films Prosecutions]])
*'''Conduct of the "child"'''. In some countries, the portayal of naked children does not need to be sexual in order to be considered child pornography. Even though a three judge panel of the U.S. Third Circuit Court ruled on October 23, 2000 that [[naturism|naturist]] magazines depicting naked children in "a variety of outdoor activities, all of which are natural and expected for healthy and active children, teenagers, and adults" should not be considered obscene, American photo labs are arresting parents as child pornographers for taking pictures of their kids in the bath or photographers taking artistic pictures of naked children in [[naturism|naturist]] beaches (see [[Jock Sturges]]).

As of March 2014, a Danish proposal called for banning images that show young children who are obviously being posed in ways designed to be erotic: scantily clad, wearing adult makeup and pouting sexually, for example – even though they are not being abused and have their genitalia covered.<ref>http://cphpost.dk/news/politicians-disagree-on-child-pornography-laws.8847.html</ref>

== Dost Test==
The '''''Dost'' test''' is a six-factor guideline established in 1986 in the case ''United States v. Dost''. The case involved 22 nude or semi-nude photographs of females aged 10–14 years old. The undeveloped film containing the images was mailed to a photo processing company in Hollywood, California.

In order to better determine whether a visual depiction of a minor constitutes a "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area", the court developed six criteria. Not all of the criteria need to be met, nor are other criteria necessarily excluded in this test.<ref>url=http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9482047682589425170&hl=en&as_sdt=10000000000002&as_</ref><ref>http://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/adult</ref>

# Whether the focal point of the visual depiction is on the child's genitalia or pubic area.
# Whether the setting of the visual depiction is sexually suggestive, i.e., in a place or pose generally associated with sexual activity.
# Whether the child is depicted in an unnatural pose, or in inappropriate attire, considering the age of the child.
# Whether the child is fully or partially clothed, or nude.
# Whether the visual depiction suggests sexual coyness or a willingness to engage in sexual activity.
# Whether the visual depiction is intended or designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer.

Concerning the lascivious display of clothed genitalia, the U.S. Department of Justice described use of the Dost test in child pornography and 2257 documentation regulations in a 2008 rule, writing that the precedent ''United States v. Knox'', did not prohibit ordinary swim team or underwear model photographs, but "although the genitals were clothed in that case, they were covered by thin, opaque clothing with an obvious purpose to draw attention to them, were displayed by models who spread or extended their legs to make the pubic and genital region entirely visible to the viewer, and were displayed by models who danced or gyrated in a way indicative of adult sexual relations".<ref>http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/E8-29677.htm</ref>

Briefs submitted in late 2009 for [http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-district-court-of-appeal/1246396.html ''Brabson v. Florida''], a case in which girls were secretly videotaped during the "innocent conduct" of changing into swimwear, differ concerning the nature of "intent" in the Dost test. At issue is whether "Cases applying Dost hold that the focus in determining whether an image is lascivious should be on the objective criteria of the image's design, not the 'actual effect' of the images on a particular defendant".<ref>http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/clerk/briefs/2009/1-200/09-136_JurisIni.pdf </ref><ref>http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/clerk/briefs/2009/1-200/09-136_JurisAns.pdf</ref>

== Criticism of the Dost Test ==

The test was criticized by New York University School of Law professor Amy Adler as forcing members of the public to look at pictures of children as a pedophile would in order to determine whether they are considered inappropriate. "As everything becomes child pornography in the eyes of the law—clothed children, coy children, children in settings where children are found—perhaps children themselves become pornographic".<ref>http://www.law.nyu.edu/news/ADLER_SPECTACLES</ref>

The sixth criteria of the Dost Test," Whether the visual depiction is intended or designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer", seriously approaches thought crime. The case could, and has, been made that because a particular image elicited a sexual response in the viewer, it could therefore be seen as child pornography. This means that because someone gets turned on by an image that makes the image pornographic. It is a total legislation of thought crime against pedophiles and is entirely dangerous for society. If it turns you on it is lewd and therefore illegal. Schmitt v. State involved a father who was accused of taking nude photographs of his daughter while she was between the ages of eight and twelve years old. The court argued over whether or not the photographs were lewd. In distinguishing mere nudity from a lewd or lascivious display, the court considered the photographer's intent and actions.
{{quote|While it is conceivable that one might view the allegations in the present affidavit as depicting simple nudity, we believe the magistrate had a substantial basis for concluding otherwise. The affidavit's factual allegations indicated that Schmitt did not treat the nudity of himself, his daughter, and others in the offhand, natural manner that might be expected if the conduct were purely innocent-for example, if they were nudists. Rather, the affidavit shows he made nudity a central and almost obsessive object of his attention. Thus, the magistrate reasonably could have believed that Schmitt's conduct toward his daughter included the “lewdness” element required by the statute. '''While nudity alone would not have sufficed, this overall focus of Schmitt's conduct tended to show a lewd intent''' and thus created a substantial basis for believing that the search would fairly probably yield evidence of a violation.<ref>http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-district-court-of-appeal/1246396.html</ref>(emphisis added)}}

It is the '''intent''' of the photographer which is being used to say whether or not an image is child pornography. The photos themselves are not pornography unless the photographer intended them to be. That is thought crime. A heterosexual man may take pictures of a nude boy, and prove that he had no sexual intent, and that therefore the pictures are not child pornography. If the exact same pictures were taken by a boylover they could be deemed illegal because the boylover had "lewd intent". This makes the simple metaphysical act of being a pedophile illegal in and of itself, in certain instances. It is unabashed thought crime through and through.

==Term==
Sometimes objections are raised to the term "child pornography" on the grounds that it implies consensual activity.<ref>http://www.interpol.int/en/Media/Files/INTERPOL-Expertise/IGLC/Child-abuse-material-and-the-Internet</ref> Terms such as "child abuse material" or "child abuse imagery"<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10675738/Patrick-Rock-child-abuse-arrest-Can-we-all-stop-calling-child-abuse-child-porn.html</ref> are preferred instead. In cases involving children who create their own child pornography without adult involvement, the children are presumably abusing themselves, according to this view. Some children have been charged with producing and circulating child pornography for taking and circulating pictures of themselves.

== Simulated child pornography ==

As if these were not enough, child pornography law in the U.S. has established that simulated computer images, or drawings, or [[painting|paintings]] of children (naked or not) that are deemed "indecent" or "lascivious" are illegal as well, even though there should be no question of child sexual abuse since, by definition, the production of these images do not involve real children.

In particular, [[United Kingdom]] with an 1994 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act introduced the legal definition of an "indecent pseudo-photograph of a child", which is prohibited as if it were a true photograph. On October 1, 2002, the [[Netherlands]] introduced legislation (''Bulletin of Acts and Decrees'' 470) which deemed "virtual child pornography" as illegal. German law does not discriminate between actual or "realistic" sexual depictions of children, while [[Canada]] in October 2005, Canadian courts sentenced an Edmonton, Alberta man to one year of community service for importing [[Shotacon|manga depicting child sex]]. Nevertheless, the [[United States]] Supreme Court decided in 2002 that the previous American prohibition of simulated child pornography was unconstitutional (''Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition'').

==Allusion pornography==
As a response to the publication of the first edition of ''[[Destroyer Magazine]]'' the Swedish Ombudsman for Children, Lena Nyberg proposed in 2006 a change to Swedish law making "allusion" pornography (defined as images of males who have not completed puberty and merely ''appear'' to be under the age of 18) illegal.<ref>''Gay Man's Worst Friend - the Story of Destroyer Magazine'' Karl Andersson, (self-translated by the author from the Swedish) (2011), Entartetes Leben:Czech Republic, p. 20, [Translation of ''Bögarnas värsta vän – historien om tidningen Destroyer'', Karl Andersson (2010) ]</ref>

:A law to treat arbitrarily defined “young-looking” adults as legal children has been rejected so far even in porn-hysterical US. Such a law could send a Swedish gay man to prison for possessing, say, a photo of his formerly furry boyfriend’s now smooth-as-a-baby’s-bottom shaved crotch.<ref>''The Guide'', 2006, as quoted in ''Gay Man's Worst Friend''</ref>

For additional details, please read ''Gay Man's Worst Friend - the Story of Destroyer Magazine''.<ref>''Gay Man's Worst Friend - the Story of Destroyer Magazine'', ibid. </ref>

== Textual child pornography ==

In some countries textual material describing sexual activities involving children is legally classified as child pornography (e.g. in [[Canada]] and [[Norway]] since 2005) while in other countries, for example the [[United Kingdom]] it is not prohibited in itself, but is caught under general laws controlling indecency and [[obscenity]]. The rationale behind these laws is that textual depictions of sex with children promote child sexual abuse. In yet other countries, most significantly the [[United States]], it is legal; written child pornography is legally protected by the US Constitution as long as it is not judged obscene. As it very difficult to prove obcenity, it is effectively legal. As a result of its general legality in the [[United States]], written child pornography is easily available on the Internet. In some states, a person can be prosecuted for mere writings. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Dalton The State v. Dalton]is a legal case in the United States state of Ohio involving the prosecution of a man for recording fictional tales of alleged [[child pornography]] in a diary. He had no images, either drawn or photographed, just writings in a journal and it was deemed to be [[child pornography]]. Altogether the man spent over 10 years in prison for simple writings.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/14/us/child-pornography-writer-gets-10-year-prison-term.html/</ref>

In September 2006, Federal authorities prosecuted Karen Fletcher for transmitting obscene materials in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1462(a) and 2, after she posted various stories on the website describing the torture, sexual molestation, and murder of fictional children. The case was notable because the allegedly obscene materials were text only, and the government has never won a conviction based solely on text under current obscenity law. Fletcher pled guilty to six counts of distributing obscene materials online in August 2008. She was sentenced to a term of probation of 60 months, with 6 months of home detention, a fine of $1,000, and a special assessment of $600.<ref>http://www.dmlp.org/threats/united-states-v-fletcher</ref>

In addition, the [[New Zealand]] Court of Appeals ruled in ''Moonen v. Film and Literature Board of Review'' (1999) that erotica stories published by [[Acolyte Press]] should not be considered child pornography as they could not see how these stories explicity promote child sexual abuse.

Due to its widespread availability, countries in which it is prohibited have not always actively sought to enforce the legal prohibition against it. In general, people possessing or distributing this material are only charged if they come to the attention of law enforcement, most commonly while being investigated for other crimes (such as possession of visual child pornography, or child sexual abuse, see [[Robin Sharpe]])

The prohibition against written child pornography can extend even to materials produced by [[pedophilia|pedophiles]] for their own personal consumption and not revealed to anyone, such as diaries or journals in which they record their fantasies. Several individuals have been prosecuted for keeping such diaries (see [[Brongersma Foundation]]). Some have argued that this violates their right to freedom of thought.

==Enforcement and penalties==
The penalties for non-contact child pornography offenses are often greater than those for actually touching minors.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/05/us/life-sentence-for-possession-of-child-pornography-spurs-debate.html?_r=0|author=Goode, Erica|date=4 November 2011|publisher=New York Times|title=Life Sentence for Possession of Child Pornography Spurs Debate Over Severity}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nacdl.org/Champion.aspx?id=22897|date=October 2011|pages=12|title=A Quiet but Growing Judicial Rebellion Against Harsh Sentences For Child Pornography Offenses — Should the Laws Be Changed?|author=Specter, Arlen and Hoffa, Linda Dale|publisher=The Champion}}</ref> In the ''Pabon-Cruz'' case, Judge Gerald E. Lynch noted that if the defendant had been charged with having sex with a 12-year-old, he would have faced only about five years, rather than the ten years prescribed by federal law: "This leads me to the rather astonishing conclusion that Mr. Pabon-Cruz would have been better off molesting a child."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/13/nyregion/a-judge-s-struggle-to-avoid-imposing-a-penalty-he-hated.html?pagewanted=1|title=A Judge's Struggle To Avoid Imposing A Penalty He Hated|author=Weiser, Benjamin|date=13 January 2004|publisher=New York Times}}</ref> No reliable study has found that a possessor of child pornography is more likely to commit a contact offense.<ref>{{cite web|title=The Changing Landscape Of Sentencing Mitigation In Possession of Child Pornography Cases|url=http://www.nacdl.org/Champion.aspx?id=20607|date=May 2011|pages=32|author=Shein, Marcia G.|publisher=The Champion}}</ref> In fact, Melissa Hamilton notes:<ref name=Cardozo>{{cite journal|author=Hamilton, Melissa|volume=33|pages=1679|date=2011-2012|title=The Child Pornography Crusade and Its Net-Widening Effect|publisher=Cardozo Law Review}}</ref>
{{cquote|Despite the deontological presumptions underlying the child pornography crusade, researchers in the child sexual abuse arena contend that the evidence to date strongly and rather consistently shows that child pornography consumption does not itself represent a risk factor for contact sexual crimes. Instead, multiple studies show that child pornography offenders are at a much lower risk for contact sexual offending than previously known contact offenders. . . . Paraphilic interest does not motivate all child pornography offenders, but is one among many explanations for consumption. . . . Given that child pornography offenders tend to score low on antisocial tendencies, they are not likely to imitate the pornographic scenes with real children. Investigations of child pornography consumers have yielded several other, relatively nondeviant, motives that render these offenders at lower risk. Briefly, these motives include using the images as a substitute for contact offending, curiosity and accidental access, facilitating social relationships, and avoiding real life. . . . Further, child pornography offenders are better prospects for postconviction rehabilitation, with far better rates of compliance when treated and when supervised postrelease, compared to child molesters. This may be the case, in part, since child pornography offenders may have more incentives as they tend to be better educated, of higher intelligence, and more likely to be gainfully employed than other types of sexual offenders. In sum, child pornography offending as a signal crime used to invoke fear for the safety of children is a social construction that misses the mark.}}

The FBI has made more than 10,000 child pornography arrests since 1996, with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement reporting a similar number of arrests since its creation in 2003.<ref>{{cite web|title=Child porn prosecutions soaring in U.S.|url=http://www.denverpost.com/ci_17306656|author=Elias, Paul|date=6 February 2011|publisher=Associated Press}}</ref> The average sentence in 2007 was 91 months.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/22/nyregion/22judge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0|title=Defiant Judge Takes On Child Pornography Law|date=21 May 2010|author=Sulzberger, A.G.|publisher=New York Times}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nacdl.org/Champion.aspx?id=14684|date=December 2009|pages=12|author=Ian Friedman, Roger Pimentel|title=Sexual Offenders: How to Create a More Deliberative Sentencing Process|publisher=News and The Champion}}</ref>

The manufacture of such content carries a 15-year mandatory minimum sentence,<ref>{{uscsub|18|2251|e}}</ref> while pursuant to the [[PROTECT Act]], receipt or distribution of it is punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison for a first offender.<ref>{{uscsub|18|2252|b|1}}</ref><ref>{{cite court|url=http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-2nd-circuit/1059531.html|litigants=U.S. v. Jorge L. Pabon-Cruz|court=2nd Cir.}}</ref> The penalties have been substantially increased; in 1991, a first offender a with no criminal history who possessed violent child pornography images and movies and shared them with others would face a maximum of two years in prison in federal cases. Today, that same person could face more than 20 years.<ref>{{cite news|title=Making Punishments Fit the Most Offensive Crimes|author=Efrati, Amir|date=23 October 2008|url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122471925786760689.html|publisher=The Wall Street Journal}}</ref> One judge noted, "Our 'social revulsion' against these 'misfits' downloading these images is perhaps somewhat more rational than the thousands of witchcraft trials and burnings conducted in Europe and here from the Thirteenth to the Eighteenth Centuries, but it borders on the same thing."<ref>{{cite court|vol=551|reporter=F3d|opinion=516|date=9 January 2009|litigants=U.S. v. Paull|pinpoint=533|url=http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?page=12&xmldoc=In%20FCO%2020090109099.xml&docbase=CsLwAr3-2007-Curr&SizeDisp=7|court=6th Cir.}}</ref>

When the [[U.S. Sentencing Guidelines]] were first promulgated, simple possession of child pornography was not a federal crime, and the single relevant Guideline addressed "transporting, receiving, or trafficking" offenses, for which the base offense level was 13. Since then, pursuant to the PROTECT Act and other laws, possession has become an offense with a base offense level of 18, and the base offense level for trafficking and receipt offenses has been raised to 22.<ref>{{cite web|title=Lessons from Two Failures: Sentencing for Cocaine and Child Pornography Under the Federal Sentencing Guidelines in the United States|author=Steiker, Carol S.|date=2013|url=http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4345&context=lcp}}</ref> In a 2010 survey of federal judges by the [[U.S. Sentencing Commission]], about 70 percent said the proposed ranges of sentences for possession and receipt of child pornography were too high.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/29/debate-rages-over-severity-child-porn-sentences/#ixzz1z1JmMKjU|title=Debate rages over severity of child-porn sentences|publisher=Associated Press|date=29 April 2012}}</ref>

==Child pornography is a "cheap crime" to investigate and prosecute==
Child pornography is a cheap crime for police, prosecutors, and judges to deal with. It can be investigated from an officer's desk, and at whatever schedule that he (or occasionally "she") finds convenient. The evidence is easy to store; it could hardly be easier. The definition of the crime is clear-cut; what was going on in the perpetrator or alleged victims' minds, always hard to deal with, is irrelevant. Charges are rarely contested or go to trial. There is scarcely any other felony whose investigation is so labor-efficient for law enforcement. Favorable news stories practically produce themselves. Unsurprisingly, prosecutions have boomed since the Internet became mainstream, about 2000.

(A similarly labor-efficient "crime" investigation technique is setting up "[[sting]]s", in which a law enforcement officer or ally pretends to be a minor in Internet chat rooms, sets up a meeting for sexual contact, then arrests the adult (almost always male) when he shows up for the meeting.)

==Arguments for and against child pornography==

===Arguments against child pornography===
The [[Meese Commission]] wrote:<ref>http://obi-investigators.com/xuk/porn/meese/207-child-pornpgraphy.htm</ref>
{{quotation|The problems to which child pornography regulation is addressed are numerous, but four stand out most prominently.

The first problem is that of the permanent record of the sexual practices in which children may be induced to engage. To the extent that pictures exist of this inherently nonconsensual act, those pictures follow the child up to and through adulthood, and the consequent embarrassment and humiliation are harms caused by the pictures themselves, independent of the harms attendant to the circumstances in which the photographs were originally made.

Second, there is substantial evidence that photographs of children engaged in sexual activity are used as tools for further molestation of other children. Children are shown pictures of other children engaged in sexual activity, with the aim of persuading especially a quite young child that if it is in a picture, and if other children are doing it, then it must be all right for this child to do it.[74] As with the problem of the permanent record, we see here a danger that is the direct consequence of the photographs themselves, a danger that is distinct from the harms related to the original making of the picture.

Third, photographs of children engaged in sexual practices with adults often constitute an important form of evidence against those adults in prosecutions for child molestation. Given the inherent difficulties of using children as witnesses, making it possible for the photographs to be evidence of the offense, or making the photographs the offense itself, provides an additional weapon in the arsenal against sexual abuse of children.

Finally, an argument related to the last is the unquestioned special harm to the children involved in both the commercial and the noncommercial distribution of child pornography. Although harms to performers involved would not otherwise be taken to be a sufficient condition for restriction of the photographs rather than the underlying conduct, the situation with children is of a different order of magnitude. The harm is virtually unanimously considered to be extraordinarily serious, and the possibility of consent is something that the law has long considered, and properly so, to be an impossibility. As a result, forms of deterrence of the underlying conduct that might not otherwise be considered advisable may be considered so with respect to photographs of children. If the sale or distribution of such pictures is stringently sanctioned, and if those sanctions are equally stringently enforced, the market may decrease, and this may in turn decrease the incentive to produce those pictures.

As part of the previous justification, it ought to be obvious that virtually all child pornography is produced surreptitiously, and thus, even with vigorous enforcement efforts, enforcement will be difficult. Enforcement efforts against the more accessible product of the process rather than or in addition to the less accessible process itself may enable the realities of enforcement to track the magnitude of the problem.}}

===Arguments in favor of allowing child pornography===
It is sometimes argued that child pornography images validate and normalize the sexual exploitation of children. This may well be true. But the same could be said of explicit arguments in favor of exploitation of minors, which nevertheless enjoy [[First Amendment to the United States Constitution]] protection.<ref>{{cite journal|quote=If politicians and judges were worried that paedophiles might be so sexually aroused by such pictures as to attack other children, or have their inhibitions removed so that such attacks would be possible, there should have been consideration as to whether this would/might/was likely to happen. No such research was conducted prior to the legislation being passed. Furthermore, if such endangering of children is proven, it seems logical that stories, cartoons, sketches, paintings or other indecent representations of child sexual activities should also be tested as they might have similar effects and therefore need controlling. However, these items are only controlled if they are deemed obscene, a more stringent test, and only then if they are traded in some way; mere possession is legal.|author=Williams, Katherine S.|date=2004|title=Child Pornography Law: Does it Protect Children?|journal=Journal of Social Welfare and Family Law|volume=26|number=3|pages=245-261|doi=10.1080/01418030412331297065}}</ref> Also, there is evidence that pornography, including child pornography, can serve as a substitute for sexual violence.<ref>{{cite web|title=Outrage As Judge Tells The Truth About Child Pornography|url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/07/outrage-as-judge-tells-the-truth-about-child-pornography/|author=Worstall, Tim|date=7 July 2013|publisher=Forbes}}</ref>

Gordon Hawkins writes, "There are two contrasting definitions of [[victimless crime]], only one of which would include most instances of the involvement of children in pornography. The most common definition, derived from John Stuart Mill and according to which such crimes have no other victim than the perpetrator, who harms only himself (Mill, [1859] 1975:10-11), does not really apply in this context. Even if children consent to being used in, or exposed to, pornographic communication, their immaturity could nonetheless render them victims in Mill's sense. But another concept of victimless crime defines it as referring to 'crimes that lack victims, in the sense of complainants asking for the protection of the criminal law' (Morris and Hawkins, 1970:6). In light of this definition, all of the consumption of pornographic material by willing children, and a substantial amount of child participation in the production of pornography, would be victimless crime."<ref>{{cite book|title=Pornography in a Free Society|pages=191|chapter=Public policy after liberalization|author=Hawkins, Gordon and Zimring, Franklin E.|date=1988|publisher=Cambridge University Press}}</ref>

Lew Rockwell points out that if the state is unleashed to solve the problem of child exploitation, "The power will not be used to solve the problem, but rather to intimidate the population in ways that people will find difficult to object to":<ref>{{cite web|title=But What About the Children?|author=Rockwell, Llewellyn H.|date=30 April 2008|url=http://mises.org/daily/2967/}}</ref>
{{cquote|The goal of the state is to find some practice that is universally reviled and pose as the one and only way of expunging it from society. The best example today is child pornography, a grim and ghastly industry that every decent person would like to see eradicated from the earth. But in the name of doing so, the state invades everyone's privacy, controls speech, interferes with families, and otherwise uses the issue as a wedge to eliminate every freedom.}}

There are some concerns that Canadian child pornography law causes harm to society by suppressing thoughts and expression concerning child and youth sexuality that involved no harm in production, fall short of advocating harm and that have at best a tenuous connection to the commission of harmful acts.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Ryder, Bruce|title=The Harms of Child Pornography Law|date=2003|publisher=University of British Columbia Law Review|volume=36|pages=101|url=http://ssrn.com/abstract=1739873|archivedate=January 14, 2011 }}</ref> In the U.S., court rulings have required restrictions on free speech to have a direct connection with abuse of actual children, while the Canadian Supreme Court has allowed much broader possession offenses, including works of the imagination such as writing, to pass constitutional scrutiny.<ref>{{cite journal|title=Child Pornography in Canada and the United States: The Myth of Right Answers|journal=Dalhousie Law Journal|volume=29|issue=2|date=Fall 2006|pages=375-412|author=Johnson, Travis}}</ref> In the U.S. Supreme Court case of ''Osborne v. Ohio'', {{ussc|495|103|1990}}, the dissent by Justice Brennan argued:
{{cquote|The notion that possession of pornography may be penalized in order to facilitate a prohibition on its production, whatever the rights of possessors, is not unlike a proposal that newspaper subscribers be held criminally liable for receiving the newspaper if they are aware of the publisher's violations of child labor laws. . . In both cases, sanctions against possession might increase the effectiveness of concededly permissible regulations on the production process. But although the need to protect children from exploitation may be acute, it cannot override the right to receive the newspaper or to possess sexually explicit materials in the privacy of the home, especially when less restrictive alternatives exist to further the state interests asserted.}}

Howitt suggests that child pornography's use in grooming is rare.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Howitt, D.|date=1995|title=Pornography and the paedophile: is it criminogenic?|journal=British Journal of Medical Psychology|volume=68|number=15–27}}</ref>

According to Hamilton:<ref name=Cardozo/>
{{cquote|several concerns held by child pornography crusaders should be addressed. One is the argument that there is value to pursuing child pornography offenders generally, in order to reduce the production market. The market thesis, though, is more speculative and ideological than supported by experiential data. The global nongovernmental organization End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Trafficking of Children for Sexual Purposes (ECPAT) acknowledges that organized crime is rarely involved with child pornography. Furthermore, a United Nations report indicates skepticism that children are sexually abused for the sole purpose of making a marketable product. The argument is also troubling on several other-though somewhat contradictory-grounds. The illegality of the content may encourage consumption as many report that the unlawful nature of the content is what makes the material more sexually enticing. From an economic-theory perspective, just as the country witnessed with the war on drugs, the criminality itself could conceivably drive profits for those organizations that can charge for the material. In actuality, however, the Internet permits widespread trading and downloading of child pornography materials for free, thereby creating a disincentive to those who believe they can profit by creating new products.}}

According to Wolak, Finkelhor, and Mitchell:<ref>{{cite journal|journal=Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment|title=Child Pornography Possessors: Trends in Offender and Case Characteristics|author=Janis Wolak, David Finkelhor and Kimberly Mitchell|date=2011|volume=23|number=22|doi=10.1177/1079063210372143}}</ref>
{{cquote|One concern is that the accessibility of online CP has caused increases in child sexual abuse. Some research suggests that CP may trigger sexual abuse by activating and validating sexual urges in CP viewers that were previously suppressed or controlled (Beech et al., 2008; Quayle & Taylor, 2003; Wilson & Jones, 2008). There is no evidence of increasing abuse in the United States, however. In fact, rates of child sexual abuse have declined substantially since the mid-1990s, a time period that corresponds to the spread of CP online. Statistics from U.S. child protective service agencies show that from 1992 to 2007, child sexual abuse declined 53% (Jones & Finkelhor, 2009), including interfamilial abuse (Finkelhor & Jones, 2006). Evidence of this decline also comes from victim self-report surveys and U.S. criminal justice system data (Finkelhor & Jones, 2008; Finkelhor, Turner, Ormrod, & Hamby, 2010), as well as the child protective services data collection system. The fact that this trend is revealed in multiple sources tends to undermine arguments that it is because of reduced reporting or changes in investigatory or statistical procedures. Nonetheless, we cannot conclude for certain that the online circulation of CP is having no impact, despite these indicators. Even if child sexual abuse has not increased, more abusers may be recording and circulating images of the abuse they perpetrate, there could be increases or shifts in victim populations that might not be reflected in large aggregated data collection systems, and increases in abuse associated with CP consumption could be seen in the future. However, it is important to recognize that, to date, there has not been a spike in the rate of child sexual abuse that corresponds with the apparent expansion of online CP.}}

====Child pornography as a positive experience for the child====
Recent discourse on child pornography falsely portrays it, like child sex in general, as a disaster for the child. Children are (supposedly) "traumatized" because they cannot consent, and their parents cannot consent for them. Thus all child-adult sexual contact is called rape (actually, it is ''statutory rape'' which usually involves no real physical violence at all), and the child pornography is considered documentation "crime" and more or less permanently remains available on the Internet for all to see.

Unfortunately, there are small numbers of people who really do abuse children, and who even violenly rape them, without the child's consent or that of their parents. These are, and should be crimes, of course.

Yet there are many children seen in child pornography whose words, facial expressions, body language, and orgasms show that they thoroughly enjoy the sexual activity, sometimes enjoying it immensely. Why causing another human being intense enjoyment and pleasure, without any complaint from the alleged victim or his/her parents, is necessarily a crime is one of the contradictions of our sex-conflicted age.

Children, especially younger children, need protection from abusers and rapists. The logical people who should provide this protection are the child's parents. Here are some reasons why parents might even ''endorse'' their children's participation in child pornography:

* Many children are eager consumers of pornography of all sorts.
* Since smartphones such as the IPhone became available, each of which contains a still and video camera, some children - how many is unknown, but a variety of cases have appeared in newspapers - without any adult participation, knowledge, or guidance start taking and circulating among each other nude and pornographic pictures and videos of themselves.
* Making pornography brings the child, in some cases, into contact with sexually enlightened people, who can teach the child about sex.
* The sexual sophistication exhibited by just-turned-18 porn actors and actresses is documentation of "kinky" sex by minors.
* Making pornography can be very lucrative for the child. This may brighten the child's future, if the money is invested; if the family is suffering economic difficulty this income may alleviate it. Like a [[Thai]] child "prostitute," a child may be very happy to be able to help the family economically.
* Children enjoy the attention they get during the photographic session. They come to learn that they are perceived as "hot", and this is a source of pride, as is the fact that people will be watching and be stimulated by the child's sex scene(s) for many years. Some may become Internet "stars" and get fan mail.
* It's fun. Sex is fun. It's an adventure.

Of course, in some cases it is the parents ''themselves'' having loving sex with their own children that may be recorded, and referred to as "child pornography."

== Further reading ==

*Jan Schuijer and Benjamin Rossen, "[http://web.archive.org/web/20010806083348/http://ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume4/j4_2_1.htm The Trade in Child Pornography]," ''[http://web.archive.org/web/20010806075608/http://ipt-forensics.com/journal/index.htm Issues in Child Abuse Accusations]'' 4, no. 2 (1992). --Examines the origins of claims regarding child pornography.
*Anne Higonnet, "[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/higonnet_text.htm Conclusions based on observation]," ''Yale Journal of Criticism'' 9, no. 1 (1996): 1-18. --Examines some controversial pictures of naked boys.
*The Perverse Law of Child Pornography(2001)- Amy Adler(medium_resolution).pdf
:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc18/view.php?id=9294&da=y
::''Columbia Law Review'' 101, no. 2 (2001): 209-273. --Argues that child pornography law, intended to protect children from sexual exploitation, threatens to reinforce the very problem it attacks. (This is the original article, not a copy!)
*Chuck Kleinhans, "Virtual Child Porn: The Law and the Semiotics of the Image," ''Journal of Visual Culture'' 3, no. 1 (2004): 17-34 [http://vcu.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/3/1/17 Abstract]
*Andrew Sorfleet and Chris Bearchell, "[http://www.walnet.org/csis/news/toronto_94/parallel-9406.html The sex police in a moral panic: how the 'youth porn' law is being used to censor artists and persecute youth sexuality]," ''Parallelogramme'' 20, no. 1 (1994). --The Law in Canada.
*D. Howitt, "Pornography and the paedophile: Is it criminogenic?" ''British Journal of Medical Psychology'' 68 (1995): 15-27.
*D.D. Knudsen, "Child sexual abuse and pornography: Is there a relationship?" ''Journal of Family Violence'' 3 (1988): 253-267.
*B. Kutchinsky, "The effect of easy availability of pornography on the incidence of sex crimes: The Danish experience," ''Journal of Social Issues'' 29 (1973): 163-181. --Based on the Danish experience, concludes that concurrent with the increasing availability of pornography, there was a significant decrease in the number of sex offenses registered by the police.
*[[Dave Riegel|David L. Riegel]], "Effects on Boy-Attracted Pedosexual Males of viewing Boy Erotica" ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'' 33, no. 4 (2004): 321-323.
*[[Dave Riegel|David L. Riegel]], ''Beyond Hysteria: Boy Erotica on the Internet'' (Philadelphia: SafeHaven Foundation Press, 2004) [http://www.ejhs.org/volume8/book35.htm Review]
*Rod Liddle. "[http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/story/0,7369,874336,00.html Should it really be a crime to look at child pornography?]" ''The Guardian''. January 14, 2003.

==References==
{{reflist}}
==See also==
*[[Azov Films]]
*[[ Azov Films Prosecutions]]
*[[ Azov Films Prosecutions - Canada‎]]
*[[Spading Up Hate: Joanna Beaven-Desjardins’ Big Lie]]
*[[ChildPorn.info]]
*[[List of works that were legal when created and later banned as child pornography]]

==See also==
*[[The_Pederast_(magazine_article) by Parker Rossman]]

== External links ==
*"The Perverse Law of Child Pornography" by Amy Adler (available to read/download at this link)
:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc18/view.php?id=9294&da=y

*[http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/ Dr. Milton Diamond of The Pacific Center for Sex and Society ]-- Dr. Diamond has investigated Pornography, as it relates Rape and Sex Crimes and his research demonstrates that countries where child pornography was legal showed a significant decrease in the incidence of child sex abuse.

*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080129233731/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978 Indecent Acts: child pornography in the UK] --An excellent site that "presents a discussion of the English laws that apply to 'child pornography' and their current application"

*'Everything is Now "Potential" Child Porn' by Dr. Marty Klein; Sexual Intelligence; 24 June 2011
:http://www.sexualintelligence.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/everything-is-now-%E2%80%9Cpotential%E2%80%9D-child-porn/

*[[Wikipedia: Child pornography]]

[[Category:Child pornography]]

Talk:Central America

2016-05-15T08:18:20Z

User4:

:illicit
::n adjective forbidden by law, rules, or custom.

The article states:
*The increased level of international awareness about the prevalence of child sex tourism in Southeast Asia has forced the ''illicit'' industry to relocate to Central American countries. (emphasis added)

Presenting "sex tourism" as a "monolithic entity" is anti-ism at its finest.

Many BoyLovers have lived in Central America and South America, and found the boys in various countries to be very forthcoming, eager, and willing to provide rewarding relationships. Why is none of this in the article? Why is this article here at all, given what little it contains--and that little being so highly biased?

The EOH has information on Central and South America. Why is none of that included here?

Any BoyLover bothering to click his way through the maze that BoyWiki calls an "index," only to reach ''this'' article, will be left scratching his head and wondering, "What the hell is happening at BoyWiki?" [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 08:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Central America

2016-05-15T08:16:26Z

User4: Created page with ":illicit ::n adjective forbidden by law, rules, or custom. The article states: *The increased level of international awareness about the prevalence of child sex tourism in..."

:illicit
::n adjective forbidden by law, rules, or custom.

The article states:
*The increased level of international awareness about the prevalence of child sex tourism in Southeast Asia has forced the ''illicit'' industry to relocate to Central American countries. (emphasis added)

Presenting "sex tourism" as a "monolithic entity" is anti-ism at its finest.

Many BoyLovers have lived in South America, and found the boys in various countries to be very forthcoming, eager, and willing to provide rewarding relationships. Why is none of this in the article? Why is this article here at all, given what little it contains--and that little being so highly biased?

The EOH has information on South America. Why is none of that included here?

Any BoyLover bothering to click his way through the maze that BoyWiki calls an "index," only to reach ''this'' article, will be left scratching his head and wondering, "What the hell is happening at BoyWiki?" [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 08:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Psychobabble

2016-05-15T07:59:37Z

User4: /* See also */

From Wikipedia:
<blockquote>Psychobabble (a neologism [newly created word] portmanteau of "psychology" or "psychoanalysis" and "babble") is a form of speech or writing that uses psychological jargon, buzzwords, and esoteric language to create an impression of truth or plausibility. The term implies that the speaker or writer lacks the experience and understanding necessary for the proper use of psychological terms. Additionally, it may imply that the content of speech deviates markedly from common sense and good judgement.

Some {{w|buzzwords}} that are commonly heard in psychobabble have come into widespread use in business management, motivational seminars, self-help, folk psychology, and popular psychology.

Frequent use of psychobabble can associate a clinical, psychological word with meaningless, or less meaningful, buzzword definitions. Laypersons often use such words when they describe life problems as clinical maladies even though the clinical terms are not meaningful or appropriate.

Most professions develop a unique vocabulary which, with frequent use, may become commonplace buzzwords. Professional psychologists may reject the "psychobabble" label when it is applied to their own special terminology.

The allusions to psychobabble imply that some psychological concepts lack precision and have become meaningless or pseudoscientific. Science demands the testing of ideas in experiments whose results are repeatable. In this context and since the scientific method is generally replaced by inductive reasoning in psychology, it does not qualify as a science....

*Psychobabble was defined by the writer who coined the word, R.D. Rosen, as:
:a set of repetitive verbal formalities that kills off the very spontaneity, candour, and understanding it pretends to promote. It’s an idiom that reduces psychological insight to a collection of standardized observations that provides a frozen lexicon to deal with an infinite variety of problems.
</blockquote>(Continue reading the above in the article {{w|Psychobabble}} at Wikipedia.)

In other words, so-called "mental health professionals" just make up words for things, whenever they like, and give those words meanings which may have nothing to do with reality. Then they use those words (and associated concepts) to (supposedly) "treat" (supposedly) "sick" people, while charging very high fees, and enriching themselves at the same time.

==Psychobabble as applied to BoyLovers==
BoyLovers have been a favorite target of so-called "mental health professionals" since {{w|Richard_von_Krafft-Ebing|German psychiatrist von Krafft-Ebing}} first introduced and [[medicalization|medicalized]] the concept of [[pedophilia]] in the early 1900s, and also first made [[homosexuality]] into a "medical problem" rather than just a problem of what may or not be acceptable {{w|morals|morality}}.

Some of the terms used when referring to and treating BoyLovers for their (supposed) {{w|Deviance_(sociology)|deviance}} are:
*pedophilia is a [[paraphilia]], a "misdirection" of the natural sexual impulse
*[[pedophilia|Pedophiles]] exhibit "deviant behavior"
*[[pedophilia]] is a "[[Psychiatry|mental disorder]]" and requires treatment
*pedophiles are "in [[denial]]" about themselves and the effects of their activities
*the necessity of [[reconceptualization|reconceptualizing]] the (supposed) "harms" that they (supposedly) cause to their young friends


==See also==
*[[Manufacturing Victims: What the Psychology Industry Is Doing to People (book)‎‎]]
*[[Pseudoscience]]
*[[The DSM: Psychiatry's Deadliest Scam (film)]]
*[[Psychiatry: An Industry of Death (film)]]
*[[Whores of the Court (book)]]
*[[Sociogenesis]]
*[[Iatrogenesis]]
*[[Medicalization]]
*[[Psychopathia Sexualis Ch. V part 6]] by 19th-century psychiatrist Richard von Krafft-Ebing

==External links==
*{{w|Psychobabble|Wikipedia article on Psychobabble}}
*Other Wikipedia articles cited above:
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morals
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deviance_(sociology)
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Krafft-Ebing
:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzwords
*Biased Terminology Effects and Biased Information Processing in Research on Adult-Nonadult Sexual Interactions: An Empirical Investigation, Bruce Rind, Robert Bauserman
:https://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/rind_biased.htm

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Child pornography

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'''Child pornography''' is any depiction (image or video) or written description (story, etc.) that involves a child and that violates legal prohibitions against child pornography. The definition is necessarily circular, since the numerous and varied laws that apply to this subject make a more concise definition virtually impossible to formulate. In addition, the definitions tend broaden over time rendering controversial any number of things that may have been legal previously.

"Child erotica" is a more neutral term for "child pornography". "Child erotica" may or may not include overt sexual activity, and may or may not be illegal, depending on how the law is applied in any particular jurisdiction.

== History ==

Before the mid 1970s, "child pornography" was available legally in most countries, including the [[United States]]. With the advent of [[child abuse]] legislation in the mid 1970s, however, anti-pornography advocates and other social and religious conservatives argued against child pornography since they claim that the production of child pornography may involve [[child sexual abuse]]. Even though scholars have challenged whether child pornography (in the broad sense) involves child sexual abuse (see Schuijer and Rossen 1992), whether child sexual abuse (again broadly defined) can lead to psychological trauma (see the [[Rind Report]] and [The Trauma Myth (book)]), and whether it can lead people to offend against children (see Howitt 1995), many people today are convinced that producing, distributing or possessing child pornography is even ''worse'' than child abuse. Even though all adult-child sex is declared, inaccurately, to be abusive and criminal, child pornography, their minds, is worse. It's child abuse made into a movie, for men to masturbate to. It confirms for doubting pedos that kids can really enjoy sex.

In the decision by the US Supreme Court on April 23, 2014, ''[[Voodoo Molestation and US Law|Doyle Randall Paroline v. United States, et al.]]'' <ref>[http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Paroline_v_United_States_No_128561_2014_BL_112162_US_Apr_23_2014_/1 DOYLE RANDALL PAROLINE, PETITIONER v. UNITED STATES, ET AL. ]</ref>, it was adjudicated that ''restitution'' can be awarded based not only on the manufacture, sale, or distribution of child pornography, but can be collected from all those who have been convicted of viewing the image, based on the magical belief <ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking</ref> that the act of viewing the image has essentially caused damage to the soul of the person depicted.

== Definition ==

This has led to broadening the definition of child pornography. In general child pornography is understood as pornography featuring children (i.e. images of children involved in sexual activity). Over the years the definition has become broader to the following ways:

*'''Age of the "child"'''. The child is not defined nowadays as a prepubescent person, but as a person under the [[age of consent]] (usually between 15 and 18), or more strictly under the age of 18, or more broadly, according to the council of the [[European Union]] decision ([http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/lex/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32004F0068:EN:HTML|E.U. Council Decision 2004/68/JHA]), "a person appearing to be a child" (which may be an adult over 18 who can pass as 16). {{uscsub|18|2256|1}} defines a minor as any person under the age of eighteen years, so it is possible for a person who takes sexually explicit photographs of his 17-year-old spouse to be convicted of child pornography production, even if there was no state law against such conduct. There have been cases in which naked "selfies" (pictures of oneself) have been deemed child pornography, in which case the child is both the injurer and the injured. [[Families Against Mandatory Minimums]] has expressed concerns over the [[mandatory minimum penalties]] established for these offenses, arguing that they sometimes result in absurd sentences, such as a 15-year sentence in a case involving a victim who consented and was of legal age to marry the offender.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.famm.org/federal/ChildPornographyOffenses.aspx|title=Child Pornography Offenses|author=Families Against Mandatory Minimums}}</ref>
*'''Nakedness of the "child"'''. According to ''[[United States v. Knox]]'' the "child" in question does not need to be nude as long as there is a "actual or simulated lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area." An image of a "child's" (broadly defined as above) crotch in underwear may fall under this definition.(see [[Azov Films Prosecutions]])
*'''Conduct of the "child"'''. In some countries, the portayal of naked children does not need to be sexual in order to be considered child pornography. Even though a three judge panel of the U.S. Third Circuit Court ruled on October 23, 2000 that [[naturism|naturist]] magazines depicting naked children in "a variety of outdoor activities, all of which are natural and expected for healthy and active children, teenagers, and adults" should not be considered obscene, American photo labs are arresting parents as child pornographers for taking pictures of their kids in the bath or photographers taking artistic pictures of naked children in [[naturism|naturist]] beaches (see [[Jock Sturges]]).

As of March 2014, a Danish proposal called for banning images that show young children who are obviously being posed in ways designed to be erotic: scantily clad, wearing adult makeup and pouting sexually, for example – even though they are not being abused and have their genitalia covered.<ref>http://cphpost.dk/news/politicians-disagree-on-child-pornography-laws.8847.html</ref>

== Dost Test==
The '''''Dost'' test''' is a six-factor guideline established in 1986 in the case ''United States v. Dost''. The case involved 22 nude or semi-nude photographs of females aged 10–14 years old. The undeveloped film containing the images was mailed to a photo processing company in Hollywood, California.

In order to better determine whether a visual depiction of a minor constitutes a "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area", the court developed six criteria. Not all of the criteria need to be met, nor are other criteria necessarily excluded in this test.<ref>url=http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9482047682589425170&hl=en&as_sdt=10000000000002&as_</ref><ref>http://www.eff.org/issues/bloggers/legal/adult</ref>

# Whether the focal point of the visual depiction is on the child's genitalia or pubic area.
# Whether the setting of the visual depiction is sexually suggestive, i.e., in a place or pose generally associated with sexual activity.
# Whether the child is depicted in an unnatural pose, or in inappropriate attire, considering the age of the child.
# Whether the child is fully or partially clothed, or nude.
# Whether the visual depiction suggests sexual coyness or a willingness to engage in sexual activity.
# Whether the visual depiction is intended or designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer.

Concerning the lascivious display of clothed genitalia, the U.S. Department of Justice described use of the Dost test in child pornography and 2257 documentation regulations in a 2008 rule, writing that the precedent ''United States v. Knox'', did not prohibit ordinary swim team or underwear model photographs, but "although the genitals were clothed in that case, they were covered by thin, opaque clothing with an obvious purpose to draw attention to them, were displayed by models who spread or extended their legs to make the pubic and genital region entirely visible to the viewer, and were displayed by models who danced or gyrated in a way indicative of adult sexual relations".<ref>http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/E8-29677.htm</ref>

Briefs submitted in late 2009 for [http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-district-court-of-appeal/1246396.html ''Brabson v. Florida''], a case in which girls were secretly videotaped during the "innocent conduct" of changing into swimwear, differ concerning the nature of "intent" in the Dost test. At issue is whether "Cases applying Dost hold that the focus in determining whether an image is lascivious should be on the objective criteria of the image's design, not the 'actual effect' of the images on a particular defendant".<ref>http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/clerk/briefs/2009/1-200/09-136_JurisIni.pdf </ref><ref>http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/clerk/briefs/2009/1-200/09-136_JurisAns.pdf</ref>

== Criticism of the Dost Test ==

The test was criticized by New York University School of Law professor Amy Adler as forcing members of the public to look at pictures of children as a pedophile would in order to determine whether they are considered inappropriate. "As everything becomes child pornography in the eyes of the law—clothed children, coy children, children in settings where children are found—perhaps children themselves become pornographic".<ref>http://www.law.nyu.edu/news/ADLER_SPECTACLES</ref>

The sixth criteria of the Dost Test," Whether the visual depiction is intended or designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer", seriously approaches thought crime. The case could, and has, been made that because a particular image elicited a sexual response in the viewer, it could therefore be seen as child pornography. This means that because someone gets turned on by an image that makes the image pornographic. It is a total legislation of thought crime against pedophiles and is entirely dangerous for society. If it turns you on it is lewd and therefore illegal. Schmitt v. State involved a father who was accused of taking nude photographs of his daughter while she was between the ages of eight and twelve years old. The court argued over whether or not the photographs were lewd. In distinguishing mere nudity from a lewd or lascivious display, the court considered the photographer's intent and actions.
{{quote|While it is conceivable that one might view the allegations in the present affidavit as depicting simple nudity, we believe the magistrate had a substantial basis for concluding otherwise. The affidavit's factual allegations indicated that Schmitt did not treat the nudity of himself, his daughter, and others in the offhand, natural manner that might be expected if the conduct were purely innocent-for example, if they were nudists. Rather, the affidavit shows he made nudity a central and almost obsessive object of his attention. Thus, the magistrate reasonably could have believed that Schmitt's conduct toward his daughter included the “lewdness” element required by the statute. '''While nudity alone would not have sufficed, this overall focus of Schmitt's conduct tended to show a lewd intent''' and thus created a substantial basis for believing that the search would fairly probably yield evidence of a violation.<ref>http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-district-court-of-appeal/1246396.html</ref>(emphisis added)}}

It is the '''intent''' of the photographer which is being used to say whether or not an image is child pornography. The photos themselves are not pornography unless the photographer intended them to be. That is thought crime. A heterosexual man may take pictures of a nude boy, and prove that he had no sexual intent, and that therefore the pictures are not child pornography. If the exact same pictures were taken by a boylover they could be deemed illegal because the boylover had "lewd intent". This makes the simple metaphysical act of being a pedophile illegal in and of itself, in certain instances. It is unabashed thought crime through and through.

==Term==
Sometimes objections are raised to the term "child pornography" on the grounds that it implies consensual activity.<ref>http://www.interpol.int/en/Media/Files/INTERPOL-Expertise/IGLC/Child-abuse-material-and-the-Internet</ref> Terms such as "child abuse material" or "child abuse imagery"<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10675738/Patrick-Rock-child-abuse-arrest-Can-we-all-stop-calling-child-abuse-child-porn.html</ref> are preferred instead. In cases involving children who create their own child pornography without adult involvement, the children are presumably abusing themselves, according to this view. Some children have been charged with producing and circulating child pornography for taking and circulating pictures of themselves.

== Simulated child pornography ==

As if these were not enough, child pornography law in the U.S. has established that simulated computer images, or drawings, or [[painting|paintings]] of children (naked or not) that are deemed "indecent" or "lascivious" are illegal as well, even though there should be no question of child sexual abuse since, by definition, the production of these images do not involve real children.

In particular, [[United Kingdom]] with an 1994 Criminal Justice and Public Order Act introduced the legal definition of an "indecent pseudo-photograph of a child", which is prohibited as if it were a true photograph. On October 1, 2002, the [[Netherlands]] introduced legislation (''Bulletin of Acts and Decrees'' 470) which deemed "virtual child pornography" as illegal. German law does not discriminate between actual or "realistic" sexual depictions of children, while [[Canada]] in October 2005, Canadian courts sentenced an Edmonton, Alberta man to one year of community service for importing [[Shotacon|manga depicting child sex]]. Nevertheless, the [[United States]] Supreme Court decided in 2002 that the previous American prohibition of simulated child pornography was unconstitutional (''Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition'').

==Allusion pornography==
As a response to the publication of the first edition of ''[[Destroyer Magazine]]'' the Swedish Ombudsman for Children, Lena Nyberg proposed in 2006 a change to Swedish law making "allusion" pornography (defined as images of males who have not completed puberty and merely ''appear'' to be under the age of 18) illegal.<ref>''Gay Man's Worst Friend - the Story of Destroyer Magazine'' Karl Andersson, (self-translated by the author from the Swedish) (2011), Entartetes Leben:Czech Republic, p. 20, [Translation of ''Bögarnas värsta vän – historien om tidningen Destroyer'', Karl Andersson (2010) ]</ref>

:A law to treat arbitrarily defined “young-looking” adults as legal children has been rejected so far even in porn-hysterical US. Such a law could send a Swedish gay man to prison for possessing, say, a photo of his formerly furry boyfriend’s now smooth-as-a-baby’s-bottom shaved crotch.<ref>''The Guide'', 2006, as quoted in ''Gay Man's Worst Friend''</ref>

For additional details, please read ''Gay Man's Worst Friend - the Story of Destroyer Magazine''.<ref>''Gay Man's Worst Friend - the Story of Destroyer Magazine'', ibid. </ref>

== Textual child pornography ==

In some countries textual material describing sexual activities involving children is legally classified as child pornography (e.g. in [[Canada]] and [[Norway]] since 2005) while in other countries, for example the [[United Kingdom]] it is not prohibited in itself, but is caught under general laws controlling indecency and [[obscenity]]. The rationale behind these laws is that textual depictions of sex with children promote child sexual abuse. In yet other countries, most significantly the [[United States]], it is legal; written child pornography is legally protected by the US Constitution as long as it is not judged obscene. As it very difficult to prove obcenity, it is effectively legal. As a result of its general legality in the [[United States]], written child pornography is easily available on the Internet. In some states, a person can be prosecuted for mere writings. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Dalton The State v. Dalton]is a legal case in the United States state of Ohio involving the prosecution of a man for recording fictional tales of alleged [[child pornography]] in a diary. He had no images, either drawn or photographed, just writings in a journal and it was deemed to be [[child pornography]]. Altogether the man spent over 10 years in prison for simple writings.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/14/us/child-pornography-writer-gets-10-year-prison-term.html/</ref>

In September 2006, Federal authorities prosecuted Karen Fletcher for transmitting obscene materials in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1462(a) and 2, after she posted various stories on the website describing the torture, sexual molestation, and murder of fictional children. The case was notable because the allegedly obscene materials were text only, and the government has never won a conviction based solely on text under current obscenity law. Fletcher pled guilty to six counts of distributing obscene materials online in August 2008. She was sentenced to a term of probation of 60 months, with 6 months of home detention, a fine of $1,000, and a special assessment of $600.<ref>http://www.dmlp.org/threats/united-states-v-fletcher</ref>

In addition, the [[New Zealand]] Court of Appeals ruled in ''Moonen v. Film and Literature Board of Review'' (1999) that erotica stories published by [[Acolyte Press]] should not be considered child pornography as they could not see how these stories explicity promote child sexual abuse.

Due to its widespread availability, countries in which it is prohibited have not always actively sought to enforce the legal prohibition against it. In general, people possessing or distributing this material are only charged if they come to the attention of law enforcement, most commonly while being investigated for other crimes (such as possession of visual child pornography, or child sexual abuse, see [[Robin Sharpe]])

The prohibition against written child pornography can extend even to materials produced by [[pedophilia|pedophiles]] for their own personal consumption and not revealed to anyone, such as diaries or journals in which they record their fantasies. Several individuals have been prosecuted for keeping such diaries (see [[Brongersma Foundation]]). Some have argued that this violates their right to freedom of thought.

==Enforcement and penalties==
The penalties for non-contact child pornography offenses are often greater than those for actually touching minors.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/05/us/life-sentence-for-possession-of-child-pornography-spurs-debate.html?_r=0|author=Goode, Erica|date=4 November 2011|publisher=New York Times|title=Life Sentence for Possession of Child Pornography Spurs Debate Over Severity}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nacdl.org/Champion.aspx?id=22897|date=October 2011|pages=12|title=A Quiet but Growing Judicial Rebellion Against Harsh Sentences For Child Pornography Offenses — Should the Laws Be Changed?|author=Specter, Arlen and Hoffa, Linda Dale|publisher=The Champion}}</ref> In the ''Pabon-Cruz'' case, Judge Gerald E. Lynch noted that if the defendant had been charged with having sex with a 12-year-old, he would have faced only about five years, rather than the ten years prescribed by federal law: "This leads me to the rather astonishing conclusion that Mr. Pabon-Cruz would have been better off molesting a child."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/13/nyregion/a-judge-s-struggle-to-avoid-imposing-a-penalty-he-hated.html?pagewanted=1|title=A Judge's Struggle To Avoid Imposing A Penalty He Hated|author=Weiser, Benjamin|date=13 January 2004|publisher=New York Times}}</ref> No reliable study has found that a possessor of child pornography is more likely to commit a contact offense.<ref>{{cite web|title=The Changing Landscape Of Sentencing Mitigation In Possession of Child Pornography Cases|url=http://www.nacdl.org/Champion.aspx?id=20607|date=May 2011|pages=32|author=Shein, Marcia G.|publisher=The Champion}}</ref> In fact, Melissa Hamilton notes:<ref name=Cardozo>{{cite journal|author=Hamilton, Melissa|volume=33|pages=1679|date=2011-2012|title=The Child Pornography Crusade and Its Net-Widening Effect|publisher=Cardozo Law Review}}</ref>
{{cquote|Despite the deontological presumptions underlying the child pornography crusade, researchers in the child sexual abuse arena contend that the evidence to date strongly and rather consistently shows that child pornography consumption does not itself represent a risk factor for contact sexual crimes. Instead, multiple studies show that child pornography offenders are at a much lower risk for contact sexual offending than previously known contact offenders. . . . Paraphilic interest does not motivate all child pornography offenders, but is one among many explanations for consumption. . . . Given that child pornography offenders tend to score low on antisocial tendencies, they are not likely to imitate the pornographic scenes with real children. Investigations of child pornography consumers have yielded several other, relatively nondeviant, motives that render these offenders at lower risk. Briefly, these motives include using the images as a substitute for contact offending, curiosity and accidental access, facilitating social relationships, and avoiding real life. . . . Further, child pornography offenders are better prospects for postconviction rehabilitation, with far better rates of compliance when treated and when supervised postrelease, compared to child molesters. This may be the case, in part, since child pornography offenders may have more incentives as they tend to be better educated, of higher intelligence, and more likely to be gainfully employed than other types of sexual offenders. In sum, child pornography offending as a signal crime used to invoke fear for the safety of children is a social construction that misses the mark.}}

The FBI has made more than 10,000 child pornography arrests since 1996, with the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement reporting a similar number of arrests since its creation in 2003.<ref>{{cite web|title=Child porn prosecutions soaring in U.S.|url=http://www.denverpost.com/ci_17306656|author=Elias, Paul|date=6 February 2011|publisher=Associated Press}}</ref> The average sentence in 2007 was 91 months.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/22/nyregion/22judge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0|title=Defiant Judge Takes On Child Pornography Law|date=21 May 2010|author=Sulzberger, A.G.|publisher=New York Times}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.nacdl.org/Champion.aspx?id=14684|date=December 2009|pages=12|author=Ian Friedman, Roger Pimentel|title=Sexual Offenders: How to Create a More Deliberative Sentencing Process|publisher=News and The Champion}}</ref>

The manufacture of such content carries a 15-year mandatory minimum sentence,<ref>{{uscsub|18|2251|e}}</ref> while pursuant to the [[PROTECT Act]], receipt or distribution of it is punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison for a first offender.<ref>{{uscsub|18|2252|b|1}}</ref><ref>{{cite court|url=http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-2nd-circuit/1059531.html|litigants=U.S. v. Jorge L. Pabon-Cruz|court=2nd Cir.}}</ref> The penalties have been substantially increased; in 1991, a first offender a with no criminal history who possessed violent child pornography images and movies and shared them with others would face a maximum of two years in prison in federal cases. Today, that same person could face more than 20 years.<ref>{{cite news|title=Making Punishments Fit the Most Offensive Crimes|author=Efrati, Amir|date=23 October 2008|url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122471925786760689.html|publisher=The Wall Street Journal}}</ref> One judge noted, "Our 'social revulsion' against these 'misfits' downloading these images is perhaps somewhat more rational than the thousands of witchcraft trials and burnings conducted in Europe and here from the Thirteenth to the Eighteenth Centuries, but it borders on the same thing."<ref>{{cite court|vol=551|reporter=F3d|opinion=516|date=9 January 2009|litigants=U.S. v. Paull|pinpoint=533|url=http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?page=12&xmldoc=In%20FCO%2020090109099.xml&docbase=CsLwAr3-2007-Curr&SizeDisp=7|court=6th Cir.}}</ref>

When the [[U.S. Sentencing Guidelines]] were first promulgated, simple possession of child pornography was not a federal crime, and the single relevant Guideline addressed "transporting, receiving, or trafficking" offenses, for which the base offense level was 13. Since then, pursuant to the PROTECT Act and other laws, possession has become an offense with a base offense level of 18, and the base offense level for trafficking and receipt offenses has been raised to 22.<ref>{{cite web|title=Lessons from Two Failures: Sentencing for Cocaine and Child Pornography Under the Federal Sentencing Guidelines in the United States|author=Steiker, Carol S.|date=2013|url=http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4345&context=lcp}}</ref> In a 2010 survey of federal judges by the [[U.S. Sentencing Commission]], about 70 percent said the proposed ranges of sentences for possession and receipt of child pornography were too high.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/29/debate-rages-over-severity-child-porn-sentences/#ixzz1z1JmMKjU|title=Debate rages over severity of child-porn sentences|publisher=Associated Press|date=29 April 2012}}</ref>

==Child pornography is a "cheap crime" to investigate and prosecute==
Child pornography is a cheap crime for police, prosecutors, and judges to deal with. It can be investigated from an officer's desk, and at whatever schedule that he (or occasionally "she") finds convenient. The evidence is easy to store; it could hardly be easier. The definition of the crime is clear-cut; what was going on in the perpetrator or alleged victims' minds, always hard to deal with, is irrelevant. Charges are rarely contested or go to trial. There is scarcely any other felony whose investigation is so labor-efficient for law enforcement. Favorable news stories practically produce themselves. Unsurprisingly, prosecutions have boomed since the Internet became mainstream, about 2000.

(A similarly labor-efficient "crime" investigation technique is setting up "[[sting]]s", in which a law enforcement officer or ally pretends to be a minor in Internet chat rooms, sets up a meeting for sexual contact, then arrests the adult (almost always male) when he shows up for the meeting.)

==Arguments for and against child pornography==

===Arguments against child pornography===
The [[Meese Commission]] wrote:<ref>http://obi-investigators.com/xuk/porn/meese/207-child-pornpgraphy.htm</ref>
{{quotation|The problems to which child pornography regulation is addressed are numerous, but four stand out most prominently.

The first problem is that of the permanent record of the sexual practices in which children may be induced to engage. To the extent that pictures exist of this inherently nonconsensual act, those pictures follow the child up to and through adulthood, and the consequent embarrassment and humiliation are harms caused by the pictures themselves, independent of the harms attendant to the circumstances in which the photographs were originally made.

Second, there is substantial evidence that photographs of children engaged in sexual activity are used as tools for further molestation of other children. Children are shown pictures of other children engaged in sexual activity, with the aim of persuading especially a quite young child that if it is in a picture, and if other children are doing it, then it must be all right for this child to do it.[74] As with the problem of the permanent record, we see here a danger that is the direct consequence of the photographs themselves, a danger that is distinct from the harms related to the original making of the picture.

Third, photographs of children engaged in sexual practices with adults often constitute an important form of evidence against those adults in prosecutions for child molestation. Given the inherent difficulties of using children as witnesses, making it possible for the photographs to be evidence of the offense, or making the photographs the offense itself, provides an additional weapon in the arsenal against sexual abuse of children.

Finally, an argument related to the last is the unquestioned special harm to the children involved in both the commercial and the noncommercial distribution of child pornography. Although harms to performers involved would not otherwise be taken to be a sufficient condition for restriction of the photographs rather than the underlying conduct, the situation with children is of a different order of magnitude. The harm is virtually unanimously considered to be extraordinarily serious, and the possibility of consent is something that the law has long considered, and properly so, to be an impossibility. As a result, forms of deterrence of the underlying conduct that might not otherwise be considered advisable may be considered so with respect to photographs of children. If the sale or distribution of such pictures is stringently sanctioned, and if those sanctions are equally stringently enforced, the market may decrease, and this may in turn decrease the incentive to produce those pictures.

As part of the previous justification, it ought to be obvious that virtually all child pornography is produced surreptitiously, and thus, even with vigorous enforcement efforts, enforcement will be difficult. Enforcement efforts against the more accessible product of the process rather than or in addition to the less accessible process itself may enable the realities of enforcement to track the magnitude of the problem.}}

===Arguments in favor of allowing child pornography===
It is sometimes argued that child pornography images validate and normalize the sexual exploitation of children. This may well be true. But the same could be said of explicit arguments in favor of exploitation of minors, which nevertheless enjoy [[First Amendment to the United States Constitution]] protection.<ref>{{cite journal|quote=If politicians and judges were worried that paedophiles might be so sexually aroused by such pictures as to attack other children, or have their inhibitions removed so that such attacks would be possible, there should have been consideration as to whether this would/might/was likely to happen. No such research was conducted prior to the legislation being passed. Furthermore, if such endangering of children is proven, it seems logical that stories, cartoons, sketches, paintings or other indecent representations of child sexual activities should also be tested as they might have similar effects and therefore need controlling. However, these items are only controlled if they are deemed obscene, a more stringent test, and only then if they are traded in some way; mere possession is legal.|author=Williams, Katherine S.|date=2004|title=Child Pornography Law: Does it Protect Children?|journal=Journal of Social Welfare and Family Law|volume=26|number=3|pages=245-261|doi=10.1080/01418030412331297065}}</ref> Also, there is evidence that pornography, including child pornography, can serve as a substitute for sexual violence.<ref>{{cite web|title=Outrage As Judge Tells The Truth About Child Pornography|url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/07/outrage-as-judge-tells-the-truth-about-child-pornography/|author=Worstall, Tim|date=7 July 2013|publisher=Forbes}}</ref>

Gordon Hawkins writes, "There are two contrasting definitions of [[victimless crime]], only one of which would include most instances of the involvement of children in pornography. The most common definition, derived from John Stuart Mill and according to which such crimes have no other victim than the perpetrator, who harms only himself (Mill, [1859] 1975:10-11), does not really apply in this context. Even if children consent to being used in, or exposed to, pornographic communication, their immaturity could nonetheless render them victims in Mill's sense. But another concept of victimless crime defines it as referring to 'crimes that lack victims, in the sense of complainants asking for the protection of the criminal law' (Morris and Hawkins, 1970:6). In light of this definition, all of the consumption of pornographic material by willing children, and a substantial amount of child participation in the production of pornography, would be victimless crime."<ref>{{cite book|title=Pornography in a Free Society|pages=191|chapter=Public policy after liberalization|author=Hawkins, Gordon and Zimring, Franklin E.|date=1988|publisher=Cambridge University Press}}</ref>

Lew Rockwell points out that if the state is unleashed to solve the problem of child exploitation, "The power will not be used to solve the problem, but rather to intimidate the population in ways that people will find difficult to object to":<ref>{{cite web|title=But What About the Children?|author=Rockwell, Llewellyn H.|date=30 April 2008|url=http://mises.org/daily/2967/}}</ref>
{{cquote|The goal of the state is to find some practice that is universally reviled and pose as the one and only way of expunging it from society. The best example today is child pornography, a grim and ghastly industry that every decent person would like to see eradicated from the earth. But in the name of doing so, the state invades everyone's privacy, controls speech, interferes with families, and otherwise uses the issue as a wedge to eliminate every freedom.}}

There are some concerns that Canadian child pornography law causes harm to society by suppressing thoughts and expression concerning child and youth sexuality that involved no harm in production, fall short of advocating harm and that have at best a tenuous connection to the commission of harmful acts.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Ryder, Bruce|title=The Harms of Child Pornography Law|date=2003|publisher=University of British Columbia Law Review|volume=36|pages=101|url=http://ssrn.com/abstract=1739873|archivedate=January 14, 2011 }}</ref> In the U.S., court rulings have required restrictions on free speech to have a direct connection with abuse of actual children, while the Canadian Supreme Court has allowed much broader possession offenses, including works of the imagination such as writing, to pass constitutional scrutiny.<ref>{{cite journal|title=Child Pornography in Canada and the United States: The Myth of Right Answers|journal=Dalhousie Law Journal|volume=29|issue=2|date=Fall 2006|pages=375-412|author=Johnson, Travis}}</ref> In the U.S. Supreme Court case of ''Osborne v. Ohio'', {{ussc|495|103|1990}}, the dissent by Justice Brennan argued:
{{cquote|The notion that possession of pornography may be penalized in order to facilitate a prohibition on its production, whatever the rights of possessors, is not unlike a proposal that newspaper subscribers be held criminally liable for receiving the newspaper if they are aware of the publisher's violations of child labor laws. . . In both cases, sanctions against possession might increase the effectiveness of concededly permissible regulations on the production process. But although the need to protect children from exploitation may be acute, it cannot override the right to receive the newspaper or to possess sexually explicit materials in the privacy of the home, especially when less restrictive alternatives exist to further the state interests asserted.}}

Howitt suggests that child pornography's use in grooming is rare.<ref>{{cite journal|author=Howitt, D.|date=1995|title=Pornography and the paedophile: is it criminogenic?|journal=British Journal of Medical Psychology|volume=68|number=15–27}}</ref>

According to Hamilton:<ref name=Cardozo/>
{{cquote|several concerns held by child pornography crusaders should be addressed. One is the argument that there is value to pursuing child pornography offenders generally, in order to reduce the production market. The market thesis, though, is more speculative and ideological than supported by experiential data. The global nongovernmental organization End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Trafficking of Children for Sexual Purposes (ECPAT) acknowledges that organized crime is rarely involved with child pornography. Furthermore, a United Nations report indicates skepticism that children are sexually abused for the sole purpose of making a marketable product. The argument is also troubling on several other-though somewhat contradictory-grounds. The illegality of the content may encourage consumption as many report that the unlawful nature of the content is what makes the material more sexually enticing. From an economic-theory perspective, just as the country witnessed with the war on drugs, the criminality itself could conceivably drive profits for those organizations that can charge for the material. In actuality, however, the Internet permits widespread trading and downloading of child pornography materials for free, thereby creating a disincentive to those who believe they can profit by creating new products.}}

According to Wolak, Finkelhor, and Mitchell:<ref>{{cite journal|journal=Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment|title=Child Pornography Possessors: Trends in Offender and Case Characteristics|author=Janis Wolak, David Finkelhor and Kimberly Mitchell|date=2011|volume=23|number=22|doi=10.1177/1079063210372143}}</ref>
{{cquote|One concern is that the accessibility of online CP has caused increases in child sexual abuse. Some research suggests that CP may trigger sexual abuse by activating and validating sexual urges in CP viewers that were previously suppressed or controlled (Beech et al., 2008; Quayle & Taylor, 2003; Wilson & Jones, 2008). There is no evidence of increasing abuse in the United States, however. In fact, rates of child sexual abuse have declined substantially since the mid-1990s, a time period that corresponds to the spread of CP online. Statistics from U.S. child protective service agencies show that from 1992 to 2007, child sexual abuse declined 53% (Jones & Finkelhor, 2009), including interfamilial abuse (Finkelhor & Jones, 2006). Evidence of this decline also comes from victim self-report surveys and U.S. criminal justice system data (Finkelhor & Jones, 2008; Finkelhor, Turner, Ormrod, & Hamby, 2010), as well as the child protective services data collection system. The fact that this trend is revealed in multiple sources tends to undermine arguments that it is because of reduced reporting or changes in investigatory or statistical procedures. Nonetheless, we cannot conclude for certain that the online circulation of CP is having no impact, despite these indicators. Even if child sexual abuse has not increased, more abusers may be recording and circulating images of the abuse they perpetrate, there could be increases or shifts in victim populations that might not be reflected in large aggregated data collection systems, and increases in abuse associated with CP consumption could be seen in the future. However, it is important to recognize that, to date, there has not been a spike in the rate of child sexual abuse that corresponds with the apparent expansion of online CP.}}

====Child pornography as a positive experience for the child====
Recent discourse on child pornography falsely portrays it, like child sex in general, as a disaster for the child. Children are (supposedly) "traumatized" because they cannot consent, and their parents cannot consent for them. Thus all child-adult sexual contact is called rape (actually, it is ''statutory rape'' which usually involves no real physical violence at all), and the child pornography is considered documentation "crime" and more or less permanently remains available on the Internet for all to see.

Unfortunately, there are small numbers of people who really do abuse children, and who even violenly rape them, without the child's consent or that of their parents. These are, and should be crimes, of course.

Yet there are many children seen in child pornography whose words, facial expressions, body language, and orgasms show that they thoroughly enjoy the sexual activity, sometimes enjoying it immensely. Why causing another human being intense enjoyment and pleasure, without any complaint from the alleged victim or his/her parents, is necessarily a crime is one of the contradictions of our sex-conflicted age.

Children, especially younger children, need protection from abusers and rapists. The logical people who should provide this protection are the child's parents. Here are some reasons why parents might even ''endorse'' their children's participation in child pornography:

* Many children are eager consumers of pornography of all sorts.
* Since smartphones such as the IPhone became available, each of which contains a still and video camera, some children - how many is unknown, but a variety of cases have appeared in newspapers - without any adult participation, knowledge, or guidance start taking and circulating among each other nude and pornographic pictures and videos of themselves.
* Making pornography brings the child, in some cases, into contact with sexually enlightened people, who can teach the child about sex.
* The sexual sophistication exhibited by just-turned-18 porn actors and actresses is documentation of "kinky" sex by minors.
* Making pornography can be very lucrative for the child. This may brighten the child's future, if the money is invested; if the family is suffering economic difficulty this income may alleviate it. Like a [[Thai]] child "prostitute," a child may be very happy to be able to help the family economically.
* Children enjoy the attention they get during the photographic session. They come to learn that they are perceived as "hot", and this is a source of pride, as is the fact that people will be watching and be stimulated by the child's sex scene(s) for many years. Some may become Internet "stars" and get fan mail.
* It's fun. Sex is fun. It's an adventure.

Of course, in some cases it is the parents ''themselves'' having loving sex with their own children that may be recorded, and referred to as "child pornography."

== Further reading ==

*Jan Schuijer and Benjamin Rossen, "[http://web.archive.org/web/20010806083348/http://ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume4/j4_2_1.htm The Trade in Child Pornography]," ''[http://web.archive.org/web/20010806075608/http://ipt-forensics.com/journal/index.htm Issues in Child Abuse Accusations]'' 4, no. 2 (1992). --Examines the origins of claims regarding child pornography.
*Anne Higonnet, "[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/higonnet_text.htm Conclusions based on observation]," ''Yale Journal of Criticism'' 9, no. 1 (1996): 1-18. --Examines some controversial pictures of naked boys.
*The Perverse Law of Child Pornography(2001)- Amy Adler(medium_resolution).pdf
:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc18/view.php?id=9294&da=y
::''Columbia Law Review'' 101, no. 2 (2001): 209-273. --Argues that child pornography law, intended to protect children from sexual exploitation, threatens to reinforce the very problem it attacks. (This is the original article, not a copy!)
*Chuck Kleinhans, "Virtual Child Porn: The Law and the Semiotics of the Image," ''Journal of Visual Culture'' 3, no. 1 (2004): 17-34 [http://vcu.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/3/1/17 Abstract]
*Andrew Sorfleet and Chris Bearchell, "[http://www.walnet.org/csis/news/toronto_94/parallel-9406.html The sex police in a moral panic: how the 'youth porn' law is being used to censor artists and persecute youth sexuality]," ''Parallelogramme'' 20, no. 1 (1994). --The Law in Canada.
*D. Howitt, "Pornography and the paedophile: Is it criminogenic?" ''British Journal of Medical Psychology'' 68 (1995): 15-27.
*D.D. Knudsen, "Child sexual abuse and pornography: Is there a relationship?" ''Journal of Family Violence'' 3 (1988): 253-267.
*B. Kutchinsky, "The effect of easy availability of pornography on the incidence of sex crimes: The Danish experience," ''Journal of Social Issues'' 29 (1973): 163-181. --Based on the Danish experience, concludes that concurrent with the increasing availability of pornography, there was a significant decrease in the number of sex offenses registered by the police.
*[[Dave Riegel|David L. Riegel]], "Effects on Boy-Attracted Pedosexual Males of viewing Boy Erotica" ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'' 33, no. 4 (2004): 321-323.
*[[Dave Riegel|David L. Riegel]], ''Beyond Hysteria: Boy Erotica on the Internet'' (Philadelphia: SafeHaven Foundation Press, 2004) [http://www.ejhs.org/volume8/book35.htm Review]
*Rod Liddle. "[http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/story/0,7369,874336,00.html Should it really be a crime to look at child pornography?]" ''The Guardian''. January 14, 2003.

==References==
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==See also==
*[[Azov Films]]
*[[ Azov Films Prosecutions]]
*[[ Azov Films Prosecutions - Canada‎]]
*[[Spading Up Hate: Joanna Beaven-Desjardins’ Big Lie]]
*[[ChildPorn.info]]
*[[List of works that were legal when created and later banned as child pornography]]

==See also==
*[[The_Pederast_(magazine_article) by Parker Rossman]]

== External links ==

*[http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/ Dr. Milton Diamond of The Pacific Center for Sex and Society ]-- Dr. Diamond has investigated Pornography, as it relates Rape and Sex Crimes and his research demonstrates that countries where child pornography was legal showed a significant decrease in the incidence of child sex abuse.

*[http://web.archive.org/web/20080129233731/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978 Indecent Acts: child pornography in the UK] --An excellent site that "presents a discussion of the English laws that apply to 'child pornography' and their current application"

*'Everything is Now "Potential" Child Porn' by Dr. Marty Klein; Sexual Intelligence; 24 June 2011
:http://www.sexualintelligence.wordpress.com/2011/06/24/everything-is-now-%E2%80%9Cpotential%E2%80%9D-child-porn/

*[[Wikipedia: Child pornography]]

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