BoyLover child-abuse narrative - Revision history

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	*successful because the BoyLover (as an adult) exercises total power and control over their "young friend" due to the age difference		*successful because the BoyLover (as an adult) exercises total power and control over their "young friend" due to the age difference

	The above are all myths created by the [[Child abuse industry\|child-abuse industry]] to demonize BoyLovers and ensure that the economic benefits, for the psych-industry, for the [[Prison-industrial complex\|prison-industrial complex,]] and for those with political ambitions, of defining BoyLovers as "monsters" will be immense and not be interrupted.		The above are all myths created by the [[Child abuse industry\|child-abuse industry]] to demonize BoyLovers and ensure that the economic benefits, for the [[psych industry]], for the [[Prison-industrial complex\|prison-industrial complex,]] and for those with political ambitions, of defining BoyLovers as "monsters" will be immense and not be interrupted.

	==The paradigm==		==The paradigm==
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	The '''BoyLover''' child-abuse narrative, like the [[incest narrative]] and the [[child abuse narrative]], is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created and [[Framing (dictionary)‎\|framed]] by certain radical feminists to demonize--from their point of view--BoyLover/loved boy sexual relationships.		The '''BoyLover''' child-abuse narrative, like the [[incest narrative]] and the [[child abuse narrative]], is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created and [[Framing (dictionary)‎\|framed]] by certain radical feminists to demonize--from their point of view--BoyLover/loved boy sexual relationships.

	~~<BEGIN-- MATERIAL MOVING HERE FROM ARTICLE TO BE DELETED:>~~		The narrative is a skewed (and false) [[Child abuse narrative\|narrative]] which always describes the relationships of BoyLovers with their "young friends" as always being:

	The ~~"Pedophile~~ narrative" is a skewed (and false) [[Child abuse narrative\|narrative]] which always describes the relationships of BoyLovers with their "young friends" as always being:
	*abusive		*abusive
	*involving force and coercion		*involving force and coercion
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	*successful because the BoyLover (as an adult) exercises total power and control over their "young friend" due to the age difference		*successful because the BoyLover (as an adult) exercises total power and control over their "young friend" due to the age difference

	~~<END OF MOVED SECTION>~~		The above are all myths created by the [[Child abuse industry\|child-abuse industry]] to demonize BoyLovers and ensure that the economic benefits, for the psych-industry, for the [[Prison-industrial complex\|prison-industrial complex,]] and for those with political ambitions, of defining BoyLovers as "monsters" will be immense and not be interrupted.

	The above are all myths created by the [[Child abuse industry\|child-abuse industry]] to demonize BoyLovers and ensure that the economic benefits, for the psych-industry, for the [[Prison-industrial complex\|prison-industrial complex,]] and for those with political ambitions, of defining BoyLovers as "monsters" will be immense and not be interrupted.
	==The paradigm==		==The paradigm==
	The basics of the narrative are (note: almost always these are ''false'' assumptions):		The basics of the narrative are (note: almost always these are ''false'' assumptions):

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 The '''BoyLover''' child-abuse narrative, like the [[incest narrative]] and the [[child abuse narrative]], is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created and [[Framing (dictionary)‎|framed]] by certain radical feminists to demonize--from their point of view--BoyLover/loved boy sexual relationships.
 ==The paradigm==
 The basics of the narrative are (note: almost always these are ''false'' assumptions):

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External links

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	**Social Response to Age-Gap Sex Involving Minors: Empirical, Historical, Cross-Cultural, and Cross-Species Considerations Presented at the “Good sex, bad sex: Sex law, crime and ethics” conference in Budapest, Hungary, May 4 to 6, 2009 Bruce Rind, Ph.D. NOTE: .PDF file, will either open in your browser or offer downloading:		**Social Response to Age-Gap Sex Involving Minors: Empirical, Historical, Cross-Cultural, and Cross-Species Considerations Presented at the “Good sex, bad sex: Sex law, crime and ethics” conference in Budapest, Hungary, May 4 to 6, 2009 Bruce Rind, Ph.D. NOTE: .PDF file, will either open in your browser or offer downloading:
	:https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/sociual_response_to_age-gap_sex_involving_minors.pdf		:https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/sociual_response_to_age-gap_sex_involving_minors.pdf

			*Chapter 1 of ''Censoring Sex Research: The Debate over Male Intergenerational Relations'', Pederasty: An Integration of Empirical, Historical, Sociological, Cross-Cultural, Cross-Species, and Evolutionary Perspectives, by Bruce L. Rind (2013) NOTE: This file is about 17 Mb in size:
			:https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/chapter_one-rind_-_of_censoring_sex_research.pdf

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The harms created by the BoyLover child-abuse narrative narrative

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	The boy will be said to be "in [[denial]], and "therapy" sessions will continue until the boy (at least, superficially) accepts the claims of the therapist, and agrees with the assertions of the therapist--the claims and assertions of the (supposed) harms listed above.		The boy will be said to be "in [[denial]], and "therapy" sessions will continue until the boy (at least, superficially) accepts the claims of the therapist, and agrees with the assertions of the therapist--the claims and assertions of the (supposed) harms listed above.

			The boy will probably also become extremely confused. The boy knows that the BoyLover had been very kind to him, had treated him well, and had respected his needs--in other words, the BoyLover had ''not'' in fact "abused" the boy. But now the boy is subjected to the "reconceptualization" of the relationship by the therapist. This puts a great strain on the boy as he tries to reconcile in his mind what the ''therapist'' claims to be true with what the ''boy knows'' is true (the boy, after all, was ''there'' with the BoyLover, while the therapist was ''not'').

	It is curious that, while the therapist holds true that the boy ''will not be believed'' should he [[Disclosure (dictionary)\|disclose]] the relationship, at the same time, the therapist ''will not believe the boy if the boy insists that the relationship was unforced, that he was not threatened'', etc. etc.		It is curious that, while the therapist holds true that the boy ''will not be believed'' should he [[Disclosure (dictionary)\|disclose]] the relationship, at the same time, the therapist ''will not believe the boy if the boy insists that the relationship was unforced, that he was not threatened'', etc. etc.

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	The '''BoyLover''' child-abuse narrative, like the [[incest narrative]] and the [[child abuse narrative]], is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created by certain radical feminists to demonize--from their point of view--BoyLover/loved boy sexual relationships.		The '''BoyLover''' child-abuse narrative, like the [[incest narrative]] and the [[child abuse narrative]], is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created and [[Framing (dictionary)‎\|framed]] by certain radical feminists to demonize--from their point of view--BoyLover/loved boy sexual relationships.

	==The paradigm==		==The paradigm==

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The paradigm

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	The basics of the narrative are (note: almost always these are ''false'' assumptions):		The basics of the narrative are (note: almost always these are ''false'' assumptions):
	*the BoyLover always coerces the boy into having sex with him,		*the BoyLover always coerces the boy into having sex with him,
	*the Boylover [[objectify\|objectifys]] the boy, treating the boy simply as an object, ~~and~~		*the Boylover [[objectify\|objectifys]] the boy, treating the boy simply as an object,
	*the Boylover uses the boy for his only selfish sexual gratification,		*the Boylover uses the boy for his only selfish sexual gratification,
	*the BoyLover (dishonestly) seduces the boy with gifts and attention,		*the BoyLover (dishonestly) seduces the boy with gifts and attention,

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	==See also==		==See also==
			*[[Pedophile]]
			*[[Heterosexual narrative]]
			*[[Homosexual narrative]]
	*[[rape narrative]]		*[[rape narrative]]
	*[[child abuse narrative]]		*[[child abuse narrative]]
	*[[incest narrative]]		*[[incest narrative]]
	*[[objectify]]		*[[objectify]]

	[[Category:Law]]		[[Category:Law]]
	[[Category:Psychology]]		[[Category:Psychology]]

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	[[Category:Psychology]]		[[Category:Psychology]]
	[[Category:Sexuality]]		[[Category:Sexuality]]

			==External links==
			:(incomplete listing)
			**Social Response to Age-Gap Sex Involving Minors: Empirical, Historical, Cross-Cultural, and Cross-Species Considerations Presented at the “Good sex, bad sex: Sex law, crime and ethics” conference in Budapest, Hungary, May 4 to 6, 2009 Bruce Rind, Ph.D. NOTE: .PDF file, will either open in your browser or offer downloading:
			:https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/sociual_response_to_age-gap_sex_involving_minors.pdf

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	==Relationship to other narratives==		==Relationship to other narratives==
	The BoyLover child-abuse narrative, along with the [[incest narrative]], the [[rape narrative]], and the [[child abuse narrative]], are all paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing adult-child sexual activity and (alleged) paternalistic attitudes within society.		The BoyLover child-abuse narrative, along with the [[incest narrative]], the [[rape narrative]], and the [[child abuse narrative]], are all paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing adult-child sexual activity and (alleged) [[paternalistic]] attitudes within society.

	==Public discourse==		==Public discourse==
	The BoyLover child-abuse narrative, the "rape narrative," the "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are rarely rationally discussed in public, due to any attempts to do so being drowned out by the histrionics of those opposed to rational discussion of adult-child sexual activities. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications, but these publications are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".		The BoyLover child-abuse narrative, the "rape narrative," the "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are rarely rationally discussed in public, due to any attempts to do so being drowned out by the histrionics of those opposed to rational discussion of adult-child sexual activities. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications, but these publications are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".

	==The harms created by the BoyLover child-abuse ~~narrative~~ narrative==		==The harms created by the BoyLover child-abuse narrative==
	The BoyLover ''almost never coerces the boy into having sex.'' Very often the boy's curiosity about sex leads him to behave seductively towards the BoyLover, and often the BoyLover will respond to this, and engage in sexual activity with the boy.		The BoyLover ''almost never coerces the boy into having sex.'' Very often the boy's curiosity about sex leads him to behave seductively towards the BoyLover, and often the BoyLover will respond to this, and engage in sexual activity with the boy.

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	Cases which come to the attention of the legal authorities ''are sometimes'' cases where the BoyLover has used coercion. From these cases, it is (mistakenly) extrapolated that ''all'' cases of BoyLovers being sexually involved with boys ''must'' involve coercion.		Cases which come to the attention of the legal authorities ''are sometimes'' cases where the BoyLover has used coercion. From these cases, it is (mistakenly) extrapolated that ''all'' cases of BoyLovers being sexually involved with boys ''must'' involve coercion.

	As BoyLover activity is usually hidden, the actual percentage of cases which ''do'' involve coercion is unknown. As only a small percentage of BoyLovers are actually prosecuted, and it is estimated that a large percentage of boys are involved sexually at some point with a BoyLover, it is very likely that most cases of BoyLover/young boy sexual activity ''do not'' involve any coercion at all.		As BoyLover activity is usually hidden, the actual percentage of cases which ''do'' involve coercion is unknown. As only a small percentage of BoyLovers are actually discovered and prosecuted, and as it is estimated that a large percentage of boys are involved sexually at some point with a BoyLover, then it is very likely that most cases of BoyLover/young boy sexual activity ''do not'' involve any coercion at all.

	Usually the boy:		Usually the boy:
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	The boy will be said to be "in [[denial]], and "therapy" sessions will continue until the boy (at least, superficially) accepts the claims of the therapist, and agrees with the assertions of the therapist--the claims and assertions of the (supposed) harms listed above.		The boy will be said to be "in [[denial]], and "therapy" sessions will continue until the boy (at least, superficially) accepts the claims of the therapist, and agrees with the assertions of the therapist--the claims and assertions of the (supposed) harms listed above.

	The boy will probably also become extremely confused. The boy knows that the BoyLover had been very kind to him, had treated him well, and had respected his needs--in other words, the BoyLover had ''not'' in fact "abused" the boy. But now the boy is subjected to the "reconceptualization" of the relationship by the therapist. This puts a great strain on the boy as he tries to reconcile in his mind what the ''therapist'' claims to be true with what the ''boy knows'' is true (the boy, after all, was ''there'' with the BoyLover, while the therapist was ''not'').		The boy will probably also become extremely confused. The boy knows that the BoyLover had been very kind to him, had treated him well, and had respected his needs--in other words, the BoyLover had ''not'' in fact "abused" the boy. But now the boy is subjected to the "[[reconceptualization]]" of the relationship by the therapist. This puts a great strain on the boy as he tries to reconcile in his mind what the ''therapist'' (often falsely) claims to be ''true'' with what the ''boy knows'' is true (the boy, after all, was ''there'' with the BoyLover, while the therapist was ''not'').

	It is curious that, while the therapist ~~holds true~~ that ~~the boy~~ ''will not be believed'' should he [[Disclosure (dictionary)\|disclose]] the relationship, at the same time, the therapist ''will not believe the boy if the boy insists that the relationship was unforced, that he was not threatened'', etc. etc.		It is curious that, while the therapist claims that boys ''will not be believed'' should they [[Disclosure (dictionary)\|disclose]] the relationship, at the same time, the therapist ''will not believe the boy if the boy insists that the relationship was unforced, that he was not threatened'', etc. etc.

	In the rare event that the boy ''has'' been coerced, threatened, etc., the therapist insists that the boy must "relive the experience" in order to "heal". The result of this, of course, is to reinforce all of the boy's bad memories, and to increase the guilt, pain, and suffering of the boy.		In the rare event that the boy ''has'' been coerced, threatened, etc., the therapist insists that the boy must "relive the experience" in order to "heal". The result of this, of course, is to reinforce all of the boy's bad memories, and to increase the guilt, pain, and suffering of the boy.