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Lysander: ::::::::::Those types of tasks are good to work on during periods of depression when motivation is lacking to do much of anything else. Unfortunately, sometimes depression also kills the will to do wiki maintenance. ~~~~

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::::::::::Those types of tasks are good to work on during periods of depression when motivation is lacking to do much of anything else. Unfortunately, sometimes depression also kills the will to do wiki maintenance. ~~~~

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	::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to it (e.g. with categories such as "Boylovers") rather than cutting out levels. Then it wouldn't be necessary to use as much creativity, imagination, and individual judgment. What do you think? [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 20:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to it (e.g. with categories such as "Boylovers") rather than cutting out levels. Then it wouldn't be necessary to use as much creativity, imagination, and individual judgment. What do you think? [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 20:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
	:::::::::Right now my opinion is whatever works best for you and the pages or areas you are working on just so long as I don't have to do it all:) I know that categorizing is not the most interesting part of wiki-ing and it's tedious work but it needs to be done. BTW, when you add a category try to remember to add the category header <nowiki>{{CH}}</nowiki> it's not a big deal, but still it is less work for me latter :) --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)		:::::::::Right now my opinion is whatever works best for you and the pages or areas you are working on just so long as I don't have to do it all:) I know that categorizing is not the most interesting part of wiki-ing and it's tedious work but it needs to be done. BTW, when you add a category try to remember to add the category header <nowiki>{{CH}}</nowiki> it's not a big deal, but still it is less work for me latter :) --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
			::::::::::Those types of tasks are good to work on during periods of depression when motivation is lacking to do much of anything else. Unfortunately, sometimes depression also kills the will to do wiki maintenance. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 22:27, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Etenne: /* Essays in mainspace */

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	::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to it (e.g. with categories such as "Boylovers") rather than cutting out levels. Then it wouldn't be necessary to use as much creativity, imagination, and individual judgment. What do you think? [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 20:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to it (e.g. with categories such as "Boylovers") rather than cutting out levels. Then it wouldn't be necessary to use as much creativity, imagination, and individual judgment. What do you think? [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 20:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
			:::::::::Right now my opinion is whatever works best for you and the pages or areas you are working on just so long as I don't have to do it all:) I know that categorizing is not the most interesting part of wiki-ing and it's tedious work but it needs to be done. BTW, when you add a category try to remember to add the category header <nowiki>{{CH}}</nowiki> it's not a big deal, but still it is less work for me latter :) --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Lysander: ::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to

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::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to

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	::::::: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Main_topic_classifications Some of this could be used for Category:Encyclopedia --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Main_topic_classifications Some of this could be used for Category:Encyclopedia --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
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			::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to it (e.g. with categories such as "Boylovers") rather than cutting out levels. Then it wouldn't be necessary to use as much creativity, imagination, and individual judgment. What do you think? [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 20:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Etenne: /* Essays in mainspace */

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	:::::::Yes, and in some instances that will work and in some it will not so we just have to do the best we can and perhaps even use a bit of creativity and imagination at times. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		:::::::Yes, and in some instances that will work and in some it will not so we just have to do the best we can and perhaps even use a bit of creativity and imagination at times. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
			::::::: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Main_topic_classifications Some of this could be used for Category:Encyclopedia --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
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Etenne: /* Agora/18 April 2015 */

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	::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. We don't have to agree with someone's ideology to use their unrelated technology (including categorization schemes). [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. We don't have to agree with someone's ideology to use their unrelated technology (including categorization schemes). [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

			:::::::Yes, and in some instances that will work and in some it will not so we just have to do the best we can and perhaps even use a bit of creativity and imagination at times. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:33, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
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Lysander at 21:27, 20 April 2015

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	::::::That's a good point, about the specific categories; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias isn't an issue, we can use their categorization scheme for guidance, unless there's some other reason for reinventing the wheel. (If the wheel's design sucks, that can be a good reason to reinvent it.)		::::::That's a good point, about the specific categories; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias isn't an issue, we can use their categorization scheme for guidance, unless there's some other reason for reinventing the wheel. (If the wheel's design sucks, that can be a good reason to reinvent it.)

	::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. We don't have to agree with someone's ideology to use their unrelated technology (including categorization schemes). [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
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Etenne: /* Essays in mainspace */

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	::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
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Lysander: /* Essays in mainspace */

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	::::::That's a good point, about the specific categories; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias isn't an issue, we can use their categorization scheme for guidance, unless there's some other reason for reinventing the wheel. (If the wheel's design sucks, that can be a good reason to reinvent it.)		::::::That's a good point, about the specific categories; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias isn't an issue, we can use their categorization scheme for guidance, unless there's some other reason for reinventing the wheel. (If the wheel's design sucks, that can be a good reason to reinvent it.)

	::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." ~~Remember Turing?~~ Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Lysander: /* Essays in mainspace */

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	::::::That's a good point, about the specific categories; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias isn't an issue, we can use their categorization scheme for guidance, unless there's some other reason for reinventing the wheel. (If the wheel's design sucks, that can be a good reason to reinvent it.)		::::::That's a good point, about the specific categories; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias isn't an issue, we can use their categorization scheme for guidance, unless there's some other reason for reinventing the wheel. (If the wheel's design sucks, that can be a good reason to reinvent it.)

	::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Remember Turing? Even the country that persecuted ~~him~~ didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Remember Turing? Even the country that persecuted Alan Turing didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Lysander: :::::That's a good point; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias i

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:::::That's a good point; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias i

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	::::I understand what you are saying and in the case of general categories (second level and even third level) they work fine however the more specific categories do not. We may find one "Category:17th-century Polish painters" who is a BL or BL related but I do not think we will ever have enough to justify and to populate having that category --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		::::I understand what you are saying and in the case of general categories (second level and even third level) they work fine however the more specific categories do not. We may find one "Category:17th-century Polish painters" who is a BL or BL related but I do not think we will ever have enough to justify and to populate having that category --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
	:::::Plus I have to admit that to me that is sort of the equivalent of going to the Ku Klux Klan wiki to get the categories for the Black history wiki. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)		:::::Plus I have to admit that to me that is sort of the equivalent of going to the Ku Klux Klan wiki to get the categories for the Black history wiki. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
			::::::That's a good point, about the specific categories; in such instances, we could travel up the hierarchy and use, instead, Category:Polish people and Category:Painters. Wikipedia would probably have Category:Polish boylovers if it weren't for their bias. In cases where their bias isn't an issue, we can use their categorization scheme for guidance, unless there's some other reason for reinventing the wheel. (If the wheel's design sucks, that can be a good reason to reinvent it.)

			::::::With regard to going to the KKK wiki for the categories, I'm reminded of how Ludwig von Mises pointed out, "The technology of Soviet Russia utilizes without scruple all the results of bourgeois physics, chemistry, and biology just as if they were valid for all classes. The Nazi engineers and physicians did not disdain to utilize the theories, discoveries, and inventions of people of 'inferior' races and nations." Remember Turing? Even the country that persecuted him didn't mind using his ideas. Similarly, those who hate the Nazis still use the results of [[wikipedia:Nazi human experimentation\|Nazi human experimentation]] that was conducted on unwilling Jews. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 21:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

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	::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to it (e.g. with categories such as "Boylovers") rather than cutting out levels. Then it wouldn't be necessary to use as much creativity, imagination, and individual judgment. What do you think? [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 20:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)		::::::::I was changing around the categories a bit to mimic Wikipedia's scheme, but it's a tough decision how tall to make the hierarchy sometimes. The simplest way would be to mimic Wikipedia's structure as faithfully as possible, and then add breadth to it (e.g. with categories such as "Boylovers") rather than cutting out levels. Then it wouldn't be necessary to use as much creativity, imagination, and individual judgment. What do you think? [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 20:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
	:::::::::Right now my opinion is whatever works best for you and the pages or areas you are working on just so long as I don't have to do it all:) I know that categorizing is not the most interesting part of wiki-ing and it's tedious work but it needs to be done. BTW, when you add a category try to remember to add the category header <nowiki>{{CH}}</nowiki> it's not a big deal, but still it is less work for me latter :) --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)		:::::::::Right now my opinion is whatever works best for you and the pages or areas you are working on just so long as I don't have to do it all:) I know that categorizing is not the most interesting part of wiki-ing and it's tedious work but it needs to be done. BTW, when you add a category try to remember to add the category header <nowiki>{{CH}}</nowiki> it's not a big deal, but still it is less work for me latter :) --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 21:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
			::::::::::Those types of tasks are good to work on during periods of depression when motivation is lacking to do much of anything else. Unfortunately, sometimes depression also kills the will to do wiki maintenance. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 22:27, 24 April 2015 (UTC)