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		<title>Etenne: /* Agora/7 November 2015 */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Agora/7 November 2015&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::It&amp;#039;s stupid to worry about security risks from extensions that are deployed on major WMF projects like Wikipedia. If there were a way to exploit it, it would&amp;#039;ve been exploited by now. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::It&amp;#039;s stupid to worry about security risks from extensions that are deployed on major WMF projects like Wikipedia. If there were a way to exploit it, it would&amp;#039;ve been exploited by now. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::::::Yes, that&amp;#039;s reasonable! Then you know your argument with the Counsil, Etenne! It seems sound enough! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:25, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::::::Yes, that&amp;#039;s reasonable! Then you know your argument with the Counsil, Etenne! It seems sound enough! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:25, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::::Yeah, we have already had that discussion. In any event, my next goal is to get video. I want to be able to archive the [[IBLD]] Videos and [[A Decent Life: The Dissenting Narrative of Tom O&#039;Carroll]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::::Yeah, we have already had that discussion. In any event, my next goal is to get video. I want to be able to archive the [[IBLD]] Videos and [[A Decent Life: The Dissenting Narrative of Tom O&#039;Carroll]]. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;--[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 13:41, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Etenne: /* Email notification */</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-11T13:39:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Email notification&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::It&amp;#039;s stupid to worry about security risks from extensions that are deployed on major WMF projects like Wikipedia. If there were a way to exploit it, it would&amp;#039;ve been exploited by now. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::It&amp;#039;s stupid to worry about security risks from extensions that are deployed on major WMF projects like Wikipedia. If there were a way to exploit it, it would&amp;#039;ve been exploited by now. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::::::Yes, that&amp;#039;s reasonable! Then you know your argument with the Counsil, Etenne! It seems sound enough! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:25, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::::::Yes, that&amp;#039;s reasonable! Then you know your argument with the Counsil, Etenne! It seems sound enough! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:25, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::::::Yeah, we have already had that discussion. In any event, my next goal is to get video. I want to be able to archive the [[IBLD]] Videos and [[A Decent Life: The Dissenting Narrative of Tom O&#039;Carroll]].&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Meco: /* Email notification */ very good</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-11T13:25:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Email notification: &lt;/span&gt; very good&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l19&quot;&gt;Line 19:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&amp;#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to choose your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&amp;#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to choose your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::I appreciate your reply. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::I appreciate your reply. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::::&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::::It&#039;s stupid to worry about security risks from extensions that are deployed on major WMF projects like Wikipedia. If there were a way to exploit it, it would&#039;ve been exploited by now. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::::::::Yes, that&#039;s reasonable! Then you know your argument with the Counsil, Etenne! It seems sound enough! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 13:25, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Agora archive]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Agora archive]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::::It&#039;s stupid to worry about security risks from extensions that are deployed on major WMF projects like Wikipedia. If there were a way to exploit it, it would&#039;ve been exploited by now. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-added&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Lysander at 01:22, 11 November 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-11T01:22:34Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 01:22, 11 November 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l20&quot;&gt;Line 20:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 20:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::I appreciate your reply. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::I appreciate your reply. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Agora archive]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category:Agora archive]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::::It&#039;s stupid to worry about security risks from extensions that are deployed on major WMF projects like Wikipedia. If there were a way to exploit it, it would&#039;ve been exploited by now. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 01:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Lysander</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyWiki:Agora/7_November_2015&amp;diff=28734&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Etenne: /* Agora/7 November 2015 */</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-10T19:44:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Agora/7 November 2015&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:44, 10 November 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l19&quot;&gt;Line 19:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 19:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&amp;#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to choose your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&amp;#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to choose your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::I appreciate your reply. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::::I appreciate your reply. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Category:Agora archive]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Etenne</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyWiki:Agora/7_November_2015&amp;diff=28717&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Meco: /* Email notification */ reply appreciated</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-10T17:03:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Email notification: &lt;/span&gt; reply appreciated&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:03, 10 November 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l18&quot;&gt;Line 18:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 18:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::Etenne you write: &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen.&amp;quot; I haven&amp;#039;t been around for long so I don&amp;#039;t know what this means. My first guess is that there are no tech persons around. Please elaborate! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::Etenne you write: &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen.&amp;quot; I haven&amp;#039;t been around for long so I don&amp;#039;t know what this means. My first guess is that there are no tech persons around. Please elaborate! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&amp;#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to choose your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&amp;#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to choose your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::::I appreciate your reply. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Meco</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyWiki:Agora/7_November_2015&amp;diff=28712&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Etenne: /* Agora/7 November 2015 */</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-10T15:31:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Agora/7 November 2015&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:31, 10 November 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l17&quot;&gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::Etenne you write: &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen.&amp;quot; I haven&amp;#039;t been around for long so I don&amp;#039;t know what this means. My first guess is that there are no tech persons around. Please elaborate! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::Etenne you write: &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen.&amp;quot; I haven&amp;#039;t been around for long so I don&amp;#039;t know what this means. My first guess is that there are no tech persons around. Please elaborate! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;chose &lt;/del&gt;your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;choose &lt;/ins&gt;your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Etenne</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Etenne: /* Email notification */</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-10T15:29:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Email notification&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122;&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:29, 10 November 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l17&quot;&gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 17:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::Etenne you write: &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen.&amp;quot; I haven&amp;#039;t been around for long so I don&amp;#039;t know what this means. My first guess is that there are no tech persons around. Please elaborate! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::Etenne you write: &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen.&amp;quot; I haven&amp;#039;t been around for long so I don&amp;#039;t know what this means. My first guess is that there are no tech persons around. Please elaborate! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::: I have often described Free Spirits as the Great Boylove Bureaucracy. It took the BoyWiki counsel several years of begging just to get them to consider upgrading the software from MediaWiki 1.3.9 to the current version of MediaWik 1.24.1. You have to understand that the Free Spirits technical staff are all volunteers, all of whom have different skill levels, interests, and proficients. There are only two tech. people who know how to work on the software (both of whom are currently away) All the other tech. people are working on other major projects and are too busy to even try to learn how to manage working on the wiki software. There is also that I would have to convince them that 1. It is necessary and 2. It is not a security risk. If I could convince them of that, they might do it, when they get around to it. And even beyond all of that and at this current time, there are technical reasons (this I don&#039;t want to go into) why changes to FS email are all on hold for the time being. Some times you have to chose your battles and for me, this is a function I am not willing to go to war for with the powers-that-be. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 15:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Etenne</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=BoyWiki:Agora/7_November_2015&amp;diff=28708&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Meco: /* Email notification */ tech persons</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-10T15:01:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Email notification: &lt;/span&gt; tech persons&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:01, 10 November 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l15&quot;&gt;Line 15:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 15:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen. I have a question though, what do you use as a mail.server for ChildWiki? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 21:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen. I have a question though, what do you use as a mail.server for ChildWiki? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 21:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::I don&amp;#039;t use any special mail server; I just use what Dreamhost provides. I think they do set [http://wiki.dreamhost.com/SMTP_quota a quota] on outgoing emails though. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:08, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::::I don&amp;#039;t use any special mail server; I just use what Dreamhost provides. I think they do set [http://wiki.dreamhost.com/SMTP_quota a quota] on outgoing emails though. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:08, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::Etenne you write: &quot;&#039;&#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&#039;&#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen.&quot; I haven&#039;t been around for long so I don&#039;t know what this means. My first guess is that there are no tech persons around. Please elaborate! __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 15:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Meco</name></author>
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		<title>Lysander at 22:08, 7 November 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-11-07T22:08:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:08, 7 November 2015&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l14&quot;&gt;Line 14:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::The newer versions of MediaWiki are set up by default to allow these notifications. See [[mediawikiwiki:MediaWiki_1.23#Notifications]] and [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Configuration_settings#Email_notification_.28Enotif.29_settings]]. [[Special:Version]] says that BoyWiki uses MediaWiki 1.24, so we should have that capability, if the tech person will switch it on. I agree that email notifications are more convenient than checking watchlists on several different wikis. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 21:07, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::The newer versions of MediaWiki are set up by default to allow these notifications. See [[mediawikiwiki:MediaWiki_1.23#Notifications]] and [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Configuration_settings#Email_notification_.28Enotif.29_settings]]. [[Special:Version]] says that BoyWiki uses MediaWiki 1.24, so we should have that capability, if the tech person will switch it on. I agree that email notifications are more convenient than checking watchlists on several different wikis. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 21:07, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen. I have a question though, what do you use as a mail.server for ChildWiki? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 21:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::::&amp;#039;&amp;#039;if the tech person will switch it on.&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You have been around here long enough to know that that is not going to happen. I have a question though, what do you use as a mail.server for ChildWiki? --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 21:29, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::::I don&#039;t use any special mail server; I just use what Dreamhost provides. I think they do set [http://wiki.dreamhost.com/SMTP_quota a quota] on outgoing emails though. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:08, 7 November 2015 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Lysander</name></author>
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