BoyWiki:Requests for page protection/unprotection/edit of protected page - Revision history

Etenne at 13:30, 1 April 2016

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	=Current requests=		=Current requests=
	~~==File:BLogo 930x818.png==~~
	~~Request that local description page for [[:File:BLogo 930x818.png]] be unprotected. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 18:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)~~

	~~:As far as I can tell it is not protected. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	::I receive this error message: "Permission error - You do not have permission to create pages, for the following reason: This page has been protected from editing because it is included in the following page, which is protected with the "cascading" option turned on: " __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
	~~:::Can you explain to me what is your reason for wanting this? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 19:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	~~::::In order to add the local page to [[:Category:BoyWiki-en images]]. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 19:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	~~::::: See I am not understanding what the purpose of doing that is? It seems redundant.--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:45, 23 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	::::::I want to start out with simply adding all image files to this category. Then, eventually create more specific categories for different types of images. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 14:23, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::: Why not do that on Media wiki. If you want to categorize, I can give you access. However, we want to add to, not recreate. I assume as a European, you can speak more then one language and can understand the French and German a bit. Also, you have to be able to take advice from the French curator as he his the person who is primary on that part of BoyWiki. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::Doing the categorizing simply on Media wiki is not a good solution. Then those categories would be sequestered from the category structure of BoyWiki/en. Category surfing also would miss these categories in that case. Besides, I don't want to be the only person who was expected (or allowed) to edit the media pages. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 15:26, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	:::::::::I am still not seeing the benefit of doing this (other then wasting disk space which is not unlimited). How does this improve the content of BoyWiki?--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 15:33, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::::Arguments about limited disk space when it comes to text files are usually considered to have become obsolete by the early 1990s. Unless the hard disks available to BoyWiki are in the <100MB range this should not be an issue. Please elaborate on your reasoning if you do find hard disk usage to be a real issue. Being able to categorize media files has the same advantages as being able to categorize other information content. It makes it feasible and convenient to browse a category structure looking for specific information and surf to related content. Without categorizing our media content users will find this quite impracticable when it comes to media files. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 16:13, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::::: OK, I will run this past the [[BoyWiki Council]] and see if they agree. This is not a question I know anything about. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::::::Exactly what are you contemplating running past the Council? It's not as if I'm not already categorizing image files. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 16:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	~~{{Quotation\|Categorizing media files locally Posted by Etenne on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 17:22:55~~

	~~One of the en.boywiki users created these pages on en boywiki~~

	~~https://www.boywiki.org/en/File:Nambla2.png~~

	~~https://www.boywiki.org/en/File:NAMBLA_LOGO.jpg~~

	~~He wants to add more. The discussion is found here:~~

	~~https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Requests_for_page_protection/unprotection#Current_requests~~

	~~Is this something that I should be allowing or not?~~

	~~}}--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 16:51, 24 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	:I caanot help thinking that you haven't grasped the issue at hand. I am not asking for permission to categorize media files. There is obviously no prohibition against that, and I'm consequently not asking you to lift any such. The issue is that the file in question is protected because it comes under the general protection of content that is featured on the Main page. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 17:10, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::Yes but as you are the first person to ever do this, I am not sure if it isn't just a glitch in the system that we did not anticipate. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	:::It's a security feature that makes sense since vandalizing stuff that's displayed on the Main page has more serious consequences than vandalizing anything else. However, with the size of this wiki and the option for anons to edit disabled, having this level of edit protection is mostly unnecessary and makes for cumbersome processes, in my opinion. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 17:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


	~~===Response from the BoyWiki Council===~~
	~~"It is true that it seems redundant. And I do not see the interest to local categories on commons images.~~

	But insofar as it is a link to media images which takes up little space and not a copy of images, and that these pseudo-pages belonging to the "File" namespace and do not clutter main namespace, they do not bother us too much."

	:So it is OK but I still wish you would spend more time adding content but that is your choice. I will try to unblock that image when I find the time. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

	~~::This image is unblocked I believe [[File:BLogo.png\|20 px]] --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	:::OK, I've categorized it. It's not in use anywhere though, but now at least it will be visible through the category page. Now, the image I originally requested still needs to be categorized. Rather than unprotecting it, perhaps you could simply add <code><nowiki>[[Category:BoyWiki-en images]]</nowiki></code> to the local description page? __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 15:15, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

	~~==Request edit to protected page==~~
	~~I would like Category:Inactive BoyWiki editors to be added to edit-protected user page [[User:Keeper]]. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 19:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)~~

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Meco: /* Template:Citation needed */ hampering business

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Template:Citation needed: hampering business

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	::Unfortunately there is only one mid-range permission I can upgrade you to and that is "Uploader" all others require consent from Bron and the BoyWiki council and [[BoyWiki:Keeper of the Wiki\|Bron]] is currently on holiday. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 18:13, 25 November 2015 (UTC)		::Unfortunately there is only one mid-range permission I can upgrade you to and that is "Uploader" all others require consent from Bron and the BoyWiki council and [[BoyWiki:Keeper of the Wiki\|Bron]] is currently on holiday. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 18:13, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
			:::In any case, we need to sort out the protection policy on this wiki. It isn't very well thought through, I can tell. And that hampers business. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 15:16, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
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Meco: /* Response from the BoyWiki Council */ and the other one

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Response from the BoyWiki Council: and the other one

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	::This image is unblocked I believe [[File:BLogo.png\|20 px]] --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)		::This image is unblocked I believe [[File:BLogo.png\|20 px]] --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
			:::OK, I've categorized it. It's not in use anywhere though, but now at least it will be visible through the category page. Now, the image I originally requested still needs to be categorized. Rather than unprotecting it, perhaps you could simply add <code><nowiki>[[Category:BoyWiki-en images]]</nowiki></code> to the local description page? __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 15:15, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

	==Request edit to protected page==		==Request edit to protected page==

Etenne: /* File:BLogo 930x818.png */

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File:BLogo 930x818.png

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	:So it is OK but I still wish you would spend more time adding content but that is your choice. I will try to unblock that image when I find the time. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)		:So it is OK but I still wish you would spend more time adding content but that is your choice. I will try to unblock that image when I find the time. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

			::This image is unblocked I believe [[File:BLogo.png\|20 px]] --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

	==Request edit to protected page==		==Request edit to protected page==

Meco: same

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same

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	==Instructions==		==Instructions==
	===Users===		===Users===
	If you would like to request a page to be protected or unprotected, please follow the following steps:		If you would like to request a page to be protected or unprotected or an edit to be made of a protected page, please follow the following steps:

	(1) If you are requesting unprotection, You need to explain why you need the page unprotected (Example: fix error in template).		(1) If you are requesting unprotection, You need to explain why you need the page unprotected (Example: fix error in template).

Meco: sp

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Meco: Meco moved page BoyWiki:Requests for page protection/unprotection to BoyWiki:Requests for page protection/unprotection/edit of protected page: reflecting amendment to this effect

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Meco moved page BoyWiki:Requests for page protection/unprotection to BoyWiki:Requests for page protection/unprotection/edit of protected page: reflecting amendment to this effect

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Meco: amending page header to reflect previous edit

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amending page header to reflect previous edit

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Meco: /* Users */ edit be made to an edit-protected page without changing its protection status

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Users: edit be made to an edit-protected page without changing its protection status

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	(2) If you are requesting protection, write the type of request with a brief reason for your request below your header.		(2) If you are requesting protection, write the type of request with a brief reason for your request below your header.

	(3) your signature(<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).		(3) If you simply request a minor edit to be made to an edit-protected page without changing its protection status, state clearly what edit is to be made and the reason for it (if that isn't self-evident).

			(4) your signature(<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).

	===Curator===		===Curator===

Meco: /* Current requests */ Request edit to protected page

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Current requests: Request edit to protected page

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	:So it is OK but I still wish you would spend more time adding content but that is your choice. I will try to unblock that image when I find the time. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)		:So it is OK but I still wish you would spend more time adding content but that is your choice. I will try to unblock that image when I find the time. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

			==Request edit to protected page==
			I would like Category:Inactive BoyWiki editors to be added to edit-protected user page [[User:Keeper]]. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 19:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

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	=Current requests=		=Current requests=
	~~==File:BLogo 930x818.png==~~
	~~Request that local description page for [[:File:BLogo 930x818.png]] be unprotected. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 18:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)~~

	~~:As far as I can tell it is not protected. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:23, 22 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	::I receive this error message: "Permission error - You do not have permission to create pages, for the following reason: This page has been protected from editing because it is included in the following page, which is protected with the "cascading" option turned on: " __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 18:02, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
	~~:::Can you explain to me what is your reason for wanting this? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 19:28, 23 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	~~::::In order to add the local page to [[:Category:BoyWiki-en images]]. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 19:57, 23 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	~~::::: See I am not understanding what the purpose of doing that is? It seems redundant.--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:45, 23 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	::::::I want to start out with simply adding all image files to this category. Then, eventually create more specific categories for different types of images. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 14:23, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::: Why not do that on Media wiki. If you want to categorize, I can give you access. However, we want to add to, not recreate. I assume as a European, you can speak more then one language and can understand the French and German a bit. Also, you have to be able to take advice from the French curator as he his the person who is primary on that part of BoyWiki. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::Doing the categorizing simply on Media wiki is not a good solution. Then those categories would be sequestered from the category structure of BoyWiki/en. Category surfing also would miss these categories in that case. Besides, I don't want to be the only person who was expected (or allowed) to edit the media pages. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 15:26, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	:::::::::I am still not seeing the benefit of doing this (other then wasting disk space which is not unlimited). How does this improve the content of BoyWiki?--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 15:33, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::::Arguments about limited disk space when it comes to text files are usually considered to have become obsolete by the early 1990s. Unless the hard disks available to BoyWiki are in the <100MB range this should not be an issue. Please elaborate on your reasoning if you do find hard disk usage to be a real issue. Being able to categorize media files has the same advantages as being able to categorize other information content. It makes it feasible and convenient to browse a category structure looking for specific information and surf to related content. Without categorizing our media content users will find this quite impracticable when it comes to media files. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 16:13, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::::: OK, I will run this past the [[BoyWiki Council]] and see if they agree. This is not a question I know anything about. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::::::::::::Exactly what are you contemplating running past the Council? It's not as if I'm not already categorizing image files. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 16:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	~~{{Quotation\|Categorizing media files locally Posted by Etenne on Tuesday, November 24, 2015 17:22:55~~

	~~One of the en.boywiki users created these pages on en boywiki~~

	~~https://www.boywiki.org/en/File:Nambla2.png~~

	~~https://www.boywiki.org/en/File:NAMBLA_LOGO.jpg~~

	~~He wants to add more. The discussion is found here:~~

	~~https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:Requests_for_page_protection/unprotection#Current_requests~~

	~~Is this something that I should be allowing or not?~~

	~~}}--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 16:51, 24 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	:I caanot help thinking that you haven't grasped the issue at hand. I am not asking for permission to categorize media files. There is obviously no prohibition against that, and I'm consequently not asking you to lift any such. The issue is that the file in question is protected because it comes under the general protection of content that is featured on the Main page. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 17:10, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	::Yes but as you are the first person to ever do this, I am not sure if it isn't just a glitch in the system that we did not anticipate. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
	:::It's a security feature that makes sense since vandalizing stuff that's displayed on the Main page has more serious consequences than vandalizing anything else. However, with the size of this wiki and the option for anons to edit disabled, having this level of edit protection is mostly unnecessary and makes for cumbersome processes, in my opinion. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 17:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)


	~~===Response from the BoyWiki Council===~~
	~~"It is true that it seems redundant. And I do not see the interest to local categories on commons images.~~

	But insofar as it is a link to media images which takes up little space and not a copy of images, and that these pseudo-pages belonging to the "File" namespace and do not clutter main namespace, they do not bother us too much."

	:So it is OK but I still wish you would spend more time adding content but that is your choice. I will try to unblock that image when I find the time. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 20:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

	~~::This image is unblocked I believe [[File:BLogo.png\|20 px]] --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:03, 28 November 2015 (UTC)~~
	:::OK, I've categorized it. It's not in use anywhere though, but now at least it will be visible through the category page. Now, the image I originally requested still needs to be categorized. Rather than unprotecting it, perhaps you could simply add <code><nowiki>[[Category:BoyWiki-en images]]</nowiki></code> to the local description page? __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 15:15, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

	~~==Request edit to protected page==~~
	~~I would like Category:Inactive BoyWiki editors to be added to edit-protected user page [[User:Keeper]]. __[[User:Meco\|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco\|talk]]) 19:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)~~

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