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	As of March 2014, a Danish proposal called for banning images that show young children who are obviously being posed in ways designed to be erotic: scantily clad, wearing adult makeup and pouting sexually, for example – even though they are not being abused and have their genitalia covered.<ref>http://cphpost.dk/news/politicians-disagree-on-child-pornography-laws.8847.html</ref>		As of March 2014, a Danish proposal called for banning images that show young children who are obviously being posed in ways designed to be erotic: scantily clad, wearing adult makeup and pouting sexually, for example – even though they are not being abused and have their genitalia covered.<ref>http://cphpost.dk/news/politicians-disagree-on-child-pornography-laws.8847.html</ref>

			== Legality of child pornography ==
			According to Wikipedia, as of May 2025, Child pornography is illegal in 187 countries worldwide. This article may or may not be accurate given the nature of Wikipedia. There is information available with a country by country breakdown. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_child_pornography Wikipedia's Legality of child pornography].

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Arguments in favor of allowing child pornography

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	According to Hamilton:<ref name=Cardozo/>		According to Hamilton:<ref name=Cardozo/>
	{{cquote\|several concerns held by child pornography crusaders should be addressed. One is the argument that there is value to pursuing child pornography offenders generally, in order to reduce the production market. The market thesis, though, is more speculative and ideological than supported by experiential data. The global nongovernmental organization End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Trafficking of Children for Sexual Purposes (ECPAT) acknowledges that organized crime is rarely involved with child pornography. Furthermore, a United Nations report indicates skepticism that children are sexually abused for the sole purpose of making a marketable product. The argument is also troubling on several other-though somewhat contradictory-grounds. The illegality of the content may encourage consumption as many report that the unlawful nature of the content is what makes the material more sexually enticing. From an economic-theory perspective, just as the country witnessed with the war on drugs, the criminality itself could conceivably drive profits for those organizations that can charge for the material. In actuality, however, the Internet permits widespread trading and downloading of child pornography materials for free, thereby creating a disincentive to those who believe they can profit by creating new products.}}		{{cquote\|several concerns held by child pornography crusaders should be addressed. One is the argument that there is value to pursuing child pornography offenders generally, in order to reduce the production market. The [[market thesis]], though, is more speculative and ideological than supported by experiential data. The global nongovernmental organization End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Trafficking of Children for Sexual Purposes (ECPAT) acknowledges that organized crime is rarely involved with child pornography. Furthermore, a United Nations report indicates skepticism that children are sexually abused for the sole purpose of making a marketable product. The argument is also troubling on several other-though somewhat contradictory-grounds. The illegality of the content may encourage consumption as many report that the unlawful nature of the content is what makes the material more sexually enticing. From an economic-theory perspective, just as the country witnessed with the war on drugs, the criminality itself could conceivably drive profits for those organizations that can charge for the material. In actuality, however, the Internet permits widespread trading and downloading of child pornography materials for free, thereby creating a disincentive to those who believe they can profit by creating new products.}}

	According to Wolak, Finkelhor, and Mitchell:<ref>{{cite journal\|journal=Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment\|title=Child Pornography Possessors: Trends in Offender and Case Characteristics\|author=Janis Wolak, David Finkelhor and Kimberly Mitchell\|date=2011\|volume=23\|number=22\|doi=10.1177/1079063210372143}}</ref>		According to Wolak, Finkelhor, and Mitchell:<ref>{{cite journal\|journal=Sexual Abuse: A Journal of Research and Treatment\|title=Child Pornography Possessors: Trends in Offender and Case Characteristics\|author=Janis Wolak, David Finkelhor and Kimberly Mitchell\|date=2011\|volume=23\|number=22\|doi=10.1177/1079063210372143}}</ref>

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Textual child pornography

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	== Textual child pornography ==		== Textual child pornography ==

	In some countries textual material describing sexual activities involving children is legally classified as child pornography (e.g. in [[Canada]] and [[Norway]] since 2005) while in other countries, for example the [[United Kingdom]] it is not prohibited in itself, but is ~~caught~~ under general laws controlling indecency and [[obscenity]]. The rationale behind these laws is that textual depictions of sex with children promote child sexual abuse. In yet other countries, most significantly the [[United States]], it is legal; written child pornography is legally protected by the US Constitution as long as it is not judged obscene. As it very difficult to prove obcenity, it is effectively legal. As a result of its general legality in the [[United States]], written child pornography is easily available on the Internet. In some states, a person can be prosecuted for mere writings. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Dalton The State v. Dalton]is a legal case in the United States state of Ohio involving the prosecution of a man for recording fictional tales of alleged [[child pornography]] in a diary. He had no images, either drawn or photographed, just writings in a journal and it was deemed to be [[child pornography]]. Altogether the man spent over 10 years in prison for simple writings.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/14/us/child-pornography-writer-gets-10-year-prison-term.html/</ref>		In some countries textual material describing sexual activities involving children is legally classified as child pornography (e.g. in [[Canada]] and [[Norway]] since 2005) while in other countries, for example the [[United Kingdom]], it is not prohibited in itself, but is covered under general laws controlling indecency and [[obscenity]]. The rationale behind these laws is that textual depictions of sex with children promote child sexual abuse. In yet other countries, most significantly the [[United States]], it is legal; written child pornography is legally protected by the US Constitution as long as it is not judged obscene. As it very difficult to prove obcenity, it is effectively legal. As a result of its general legality in the [[United States]], written child pornography is easily available on the Internet. In some states, a person can be prosecuted for mere writings. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_v._Dalton The State v. Dalton] is a legal case in the United States state of Ohio involving the prosecution of a man for recording fictional tales of alleged [[child pornography]] in a diary. He had no images, either drawn or photographed, just writings in a journal and it was deemed to be [[child pornography]]. Altogether the man spent over 10 years in prison for simple writings.<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/14/us/child-pornography-writer-gets-10-year-prison-term.html/</ref>


	In September 2006, Federal authorities prosecuted Karen Fletcher for transmitting obscene materials in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1462(a) and 2, after she posted various stories on the website describing the torture, sexual molestation, and murder of fictional children. The case was notable because the allegedly obscene materials were text only, and the government has never won a conviction based solely on text under current obscenity law. Fletcher pled guilty to six counts of distributing obscene materials online in August 2008. She was sentenced to a term of probation of 60 months, with 6 months of home detention, a fine of $1,000, and a special assessment of $600.<ref>http://www.dmlp.org/threats/united-states-v-fletcher</ref>		In September 2006, Federal authorities prosecuted Karen Fletcher for transmitting obscene materials in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1462(a) and 2, after she posted various stories on the website describing the torture, sexual molestation, and murder of fictional children. The case was notable because the allegedly obscene materials were text only, and the government has never won a conviction based solely on text under current obscenity law. Fletcher pled guilty to six counts of distributing obscene materials online in August 2008. She was sentenced to a term of probation of 60 months, with 6 months of home detention, a fine of $1,000, and a special assessment of $600.<ref>http://www.dmlp.org/threats/united-states-v-fletcher</ref>

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	'''Child pornography''' is any depiction (image or video) or written description (story, etc.) that involves a child and that violates legal prohibitions against child pornography. The definition is necessarily circular, since the numerous and varied laws that apply to this subject make a more concise definition virtually impossible to formulate. In addition, the definitions tend broaden over time rendering controversial any number of things that may have been legal previously.		'''Child pornography''' is any depiction (image or video) or written description (story, etc.) that involves a child and that violates legal prohibitions against child pornography. The definition is necessarily circular, since the numerous and varied laws that apply to this subject make a more concise definition virtually impossible to formulate. In addition, the definitions tend broaden over time, rendering controversial any number of things that may have been legal previously.

	"Child erotica" is a more neutral term for "child pornography". "Child erotica" may or may not include overt sexual activity, and may or may not be illegal, depending on how the law is applied in any particular jurisdiction.		"Child erotica" is a more neutral term for "child pornography". "Child erotica" may or may not include overt sexual activity, and may or may not be illegal, depending on how the law is applied in any particular jurisdiction.

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	== External links ==		== External links ==
	*"The Perverse Law of Child Pornography" by Amy Adler ~~(available to read/download at this link)~~		*"The Perverse Law of Child Pornography" by Amy Adler
	:~~http~~://~~www~~.~~keepandshare~~.~~com~~/~~doc18~~/~~view~~.~~php?id=9294&da=y~~		:https://cyber.harvard.edu/ilaw/Speech/Adler_full.html

	*[http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/ Dr. Milton Diamond of The Pacific Center for Sex and Society ]-- Dr. Diamond has investigated Pornography, as it relates Rape and Sex Crimes and his research demonstrates that countries where child pornography was legal showed a significant decrease in the incidence of child sex abuse.		*[http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/ Dr. Milton Diamond of The Pacific Center for Sex and Society ]-- Dr. Diamond has investigated Pornography, as it relates Rape and Sex Crimes and his research demonstrates that countries where child pornography was legal showed a significant decrease in the incidence of child sex abuse.

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Child pornography as a positive experience for the child

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	====Child pornography as a positive experience for the child====		====Child pornography as a positive experience for the child====
	Recent discourse on child pornography falsely portrays it, like child sex in general, as a disaster for the child. Children are (supposedly) "traumatized" because they cannot consent, and their parents cannot consent for them. Thus all child-adult sexual contact is ~~called~~ rape (actually, it is ''statutory rape'' which usually involves no real physical violence at all), and the child pornography is considered documentation "crime" and more or less permanently remains available on the Internet for all to see.		Recent discourse on child pornography, except for [[Judith Levine]], falsely portrays it, like child sex in general, as a disaster for the child. Children are (supposedly) "traumatized" because they cannot consent, and their parents cannot consent for them. Thus all child-adult sexual contact is by definition the crime of rape (actually, it is ''statutory rape'' which usually involves no real physical violence at all), and the child pornography is considered documentation of "crime" and more or less permanently remains available on the Internet for all to see.

	Unfortunately, there are small numbers of people who really do abuse children, and who even ~~violenly~~ rape them, without the child's consent or that of their parents. These are, and should be crimes, of course.		Unfortunately, there are small numbers of people who really do abuse children, and who even violently rape them, without the child's consent or that of their parents. These are, and should be crimes, of course.

	Yet there are many children seen in child pornography whose words, facial expressions, body language, and orgasms show that they thoroughly enjoy the sexual activity, sometimes enjoying it immensely. Why causing another human being intense enjoyment and pleasure, without any complaint from the alleged victim or his/her parents, is necessarily a crime is one of the contradictions of our sex-conflicted age.		Yet there are many children seen in child pornography whose words, facial expressions, body language, and orgasms show that they thoroughly enjoy the sexual activity, sometimes enjoying it immensely. Why causing another human being intense enjoyment and pleasure, without any complaint from the alleged victim or his/her parents, is necessarily a crime is one of the contradictions of our sex-conflicted age.
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	* Making pornography can be very lucrative for the child. This may brighten the child's future, if the money is invested; if the family is suffering economic difficulty this income may alleviate it. Like a [[Thai]] child "prostitute," a child may be very happy to be able to help the family economically.		* Making pornography can be very lucrative for the child. This may brighten the child's future, if the money is invested; if the family is suffering economic difficulty this income may alleviate it. Like a [[Thai]] child "prostitute," a child may be very happy to be able to help the family economically.
	* Children enjoy the attention they get during the photographic session. They come to learn that they are perceived as "hot", and this is a source of pride, as is the fact that people will be watching and be stimulated by the child's sex scene(s) for many years. Some may become Internet "stars" and get fan mail.		* Children enjoy the attention they get during the photographic session. They come to learn that they are perceived as "hot", and this is a source of pride, as is the fact that people will be watching and be stimulated by the child's sex scene(s) for many years. Some may become Internet "stars" and get fan mail.
	* It's fun. Sex is fun. It's an adventure. As the Lone Ranger said, "Hi-yo Silver." (Silver was his ~~hose~~.)		* It's fun. Sex is fun. It's an adventure. As the Lone Ranger said, "Hi-yo Silver." (Silver was his horse.)

	Of course, in some cases it is the parents ''themselves'' having loving sex with their own children that may be recorded, and referred to as "child pornography."		Of course, in some cases it is the parents ''themselves'' having loving sex with their own children that may be recorded, and referred to as "child pornography."

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Child pornography as a positive experience for the child: a rhetorical touch

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	* Making pornography can be very lucrative for the child. This may brighten the child's future, if the money is invested; if the family is suffering economic difficulty this income may alleviate it. Like a [[Thai]] child "prostitute," a child may be very happy to be able to help the family economically.		* Making pornography can be very lucrative for the child. This may brighten the child's future, if the money is invested; if the family is suffering economic difficulty this income may alleviate it. Like a [[Thai]] child "prostitute," a child may be very happy to be able to help the family economically.
	* Children enjoy the attention they get during the photographic session. They come to learn that they are perceived as "hot", and this is a source of pride, as is the fact that people will be watching and be stimulated by the child's sex scene(s) for many years. Some may become Internet "stars" and get fan mail.		* Children enjoy the attention they get during the photographic session. They come to learn that they are perceived as "hot", and this is a source of pride, as is the fact that people will be watching and be stimulated by the child's sex scene(s) for many years. Some may become Internet "stars" and get fan mail.
	* It's fun. Sex is fun. It's an adventure.		* It's fun. Sex is fun. It's an adventure. As the Lone Ranger said, "Hi-yo Silver." (Silver was his hose.)

	Of course, in some cases it is the parents ''themselves'' having loving sex with their own children that may be recorded, and referred to as "child pornography."		Of course, in some cases it is the parents ''themselves'' having loving sex with their own children that may be recorded, and referred to as "child pornography."

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History

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	Before the mid 1970s, "child pornography" was available legally in most countries, including the [[United States]]. With the advent of [[child abuse]] legislation in the mid 1970s, however, anti-pornography advocates and other social and religious conservatives argued against child pornography since they claim that the production of child pornography may involve [[child sexual abuse]]. Even though scholars have challenged whether child pornography (in the broad sense) involves child sexual abuse (see Schuijer and Rossen 1992), whether child sexual abuse (again broadly defined) can lead to psychological trauma (see the [[Rind Report]] and [The Trauma Myth (book)]), and whether it can lead people to offend against children (see Howitt 1995), many people today are convinced that producing, distributing or possessing child pornography is even ''worse'' than child abuse. Even though all adult-child sex is declared, inaccurately, to be abusive and criminal, child pornography, their minds, is worse. It's child abuse made into a movie, for men to masturbate to. It confirms for doubting pedos that kids can really enjoy sex.		Before the mid 1970s, "child pornography" was available legally in most countries, including the [[United States]]. With the advent of [[child abuse]] legislation in the mid 1970s, however, anti-pornography advocates and other social and religious conservatives argued against child pornography since they claim that the production of child pornography may involve [[child sexual abuse]]. Even though scholars have challenged whether child pornography (in the broad sense) involves child sexual abuse (see Schuijer and Rossen 1992), whether child sexual abuse (again broadly defined) can lead to psychological trauma (see the [[Rind Report]] and [The Trauma Myth (book)]), and whether it can lead people to offend against children (see Howitt 1995), many people today are convinced that producing, distributing or possessing child pornography is even ''worse'' than child abuse. Even though all adult-child sex is declared, inaccurately, to be abusive and criminal, child pornography, their minds, is worse. It's child abuse made into a movie, for men to masturbate to. It confirms for doubting pedos that kids can really enjoy sex.

	In the decision by the US Supreme Court on April 23, 2014, ''[[Voodoo Molestation and US Law\|Doyle Randall Paroline v. United States, et al.]]'' <ref>[http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Paroline_v_United_States_No_128561_2014_BL_112162_US_Apr_23_2014_/1 DOYLE RANDALL PAROLINE, PETITIONER v. UNITED STATES, ET AL. ]</ref>, it was adjudicated that ''restitution'' can be awarded based not only on the manufacture, sale, or distribution of child pornography, but can be collected from all those who have been convicted of viewing the image, based on the magical belief <ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking</ref> that the act of viewing the image has ~~essentially~~ caused damage to the soul of the person depicted.		In the decision by the US Supreme Court on April 23, 2014, ''[[Voodoo Molestation and US Law\|Doyle Randall Paroline v. United States, et al.]]'' <ref>[http://www2.bloomberglaw.com/public/desktop/document/Paroline_v_United_States_No_128561_2014_BL_112162_US_Apr_23_2014_/1 DOYLE RANDALL PAROLINE, PETITIONER v. UNITED STATES, ET AL. ]</ref>, it was adjudicated that ''restitution'' can be awarded based not only on the manufacture, sale, or distribution of child pornography, but can be collected from all those who have been convicted of viewing the image, based on the magical belief <ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_thinking</ref> that the act of viewing the image has essentiall caused psychological damage to the soul of the person depicted. Aside from pne well-publicised case,

	== Definition ==		== Definition ==

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External links

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	== External links ==		== External links ==
			*"The Perverse Law of Child Pornography" by Amy Adler (available to read/download at this link)
			:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc18/view.php?id=9294&da=y

	*[http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/ Dr. Milton Diamond of The Pacific Center for Sex and Society ]-- Dr. Diamond has investigated Pornography, as it relates Rape and Sex Crimes and his research demonstrates that countries where child pornography was legal showed a significant decrease in the incidence of child sex abuse.		*[http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/ Dr. Milton Diamond of The Pacific Center for Sex and Society ]-- Dr. Diamond has investigated Pornography, as it relates Rape and Sex Crimes and his research demonstrates that countries where child pornography was legal showed a significant decrease in the incidence of child sex abuse.

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	==See also==		==See also==
	*[[The_Pederast_(magazine_article) by Parker Rossman]]

	== External links ==		== External links ==