Historical boylove relationships in ancient Greece - Revision history

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	*W. A. Percy III. Pederasty and Pedagogy in Archaic Greece, University of Illinois Press, 1996. ISBN 0-252-02209-2		*W. A. Percy III. Pederasty and Pedagogy in Archaic Greece, University of Illinois Press, 1996. ISBN 0-252-02209-2

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	*Ariaeus and Menon the Thessalian		*Ariaeus and Menon the Thessalian
	:*Menon, a commander of Greek mercenaries in Cyrus the Younger's army who had received his commission on account of his youthful beauty, took Ariaeus, a Persian, as his lover. The matter was badly seen, as it was deemed especially base to submit sexually to a barbarian.<ref>Xenophon, Anabasis; 2.6.29 </ref><ref>Robin Lane Fox, The Long March: Xenophon and the Ten Thousand p.198 </ref>		:*Menon, a commander of Greek mercenaries in Cyrus the Younger's army who had received his commission on account of his youthful beauty, took Ariaeus, a Persian, as his lover. The matter was badly seen, as it was deemed especially base to submit sexually to a barbarian.<ref>Xenophon, Anabasis; 2.6.29 </ref><ref>Robin Lane Fox, The Long March: Xenophon and the Ten Thousand p.198 </ref>
	*Artaxerxes II of Persia and Tiridates		*Artaxerxes II of [[Persian Empire\|Persia]] and Tiridates
	:*The Persian king, distraught at the death of his beloved eunuch, found consolation in placing the dead youth's cloak over the shoulders of Aspasia, his Greek hetaira.<ref>Aelian, Var. Hist. 12.1 </ref>		:*The Persian king, distraught at the death of his beloved eunuch, found consolation in placing the dead youth's cloak over the shoulders of Aspasia, his Greek hetaira.<ref>Aelian, Var. Hist. 12.1 </ref>
	*Archelaus I of Macedon and Craterus (or Crateuas)		*Archelaus I of Macedon and Craterus (or Crateuas)

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	In classical antiquity there were many known pederastic relationships between adult men and adolescent boys. In some of these cases both members became well-known historical figures, while in others, only one of the two may have.		In classical antiquity there were many known pederastic relationships between adult men and adolescent boys. In some of these cases both members became well-known historical figures, while in others, only one of the two may have.

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	:*The Carthaginian Hasdrubal was noted for his beauty, first becoming the catamite of Hamilcar, and later his son-in-law.<ref>Livy's History of Rome: Book 21.2 </ref>		:*The Carthaginian Hasdrubal was noted for his beauty, first becoming the catamite of Hamilcar, and later his son-in-law.<ref>Livy's History of Rome: Book 21.2 </ref>
	*Xenares and Cleomenes III		*Xenares and Cleomenes III
	:*Xenares inspired the future king before 235 BCE.<ref>John Addington Symonds, A Problem in Greek Ethics, X p.14 </ref>		:*Xenares inspired the future king before 235 BCE.<ref>John Addington Symonds, [[A Problem in Greek Ethics]], X p.14 </ref>
	*Cleomenes III and Panteus.		*Cleomenes III and Panteus.
	:*According to Plutarch, Panteus was "the most beautiful and valorous youth of Sparta." Later he joined his inspirer in death - when Cleomenes took his own life upon being exiled to Egypt, Panteus, seeing that he could still knit his brows, "...kissed him and raised him. Holding the body next to him, he plunged his sword into his own breast." <ref> John Addington Symonds, op.cit. X p.14 </ref>		:*According to Plutarch, Panteus was "the most beautiful and valorous youth of Sparta." Later he joined his inspirer in death - when Cleomenes took his own life upon being exiled to Egypt, Panteus, seeing that he could still knit his brows, "...kissed him and raised him. Holding the body next to him, he plunged his sword into his own breast." <ref> John Addington Symonds, op.cit. X p.14 </ref>

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	In classical antiquity there were many known pederastic relationships between adult men and adolescent boys. In some of these cases both members became well-known historical figures, while in others, only one of the two may have.		In classical antiquity there were many known pederastic relationships between adult men and adolescent boys. In some of these cases both members became well-known historical figures, while in others, only one of the two may have.

	Though all such relationships were by definition homoerotic in nature, the individuals involved did not identify themselves as homosexuals, but rather as ordinary men having ordinary desires. The nature of the relationships ~~have~~ ranged from overtly sexual to what is now referred to as platonic, in accordance with ancient ethical and philosophical standards.<ref>Hubbard, Thomas K. "Introduction" to Homosexuality in Greece and Rome: A Sourcebook of Basic Documents. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2003. pg. 9.</ref>		Though all such relationships were by definition homoerotic in nature, the individuals involved did not identify themselves as homosexuals, but rather as ordinary men having ordinary desires. The nature of the relationships ranged from overtly sexual to what is now referred to as platonic, in accordance with ancient ethical and philosophical standards.<ref>Hubbard, Thomas K. "Introduction" to Homosexuality in Greece and Rome: A Sourcebook of Basic Documents. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2003. pg. 9.</ref>

	In the following list the couples are listed in chronological order, and the name of the older partner precedes that of the younger. Though many more men are known to have engaged in such relationships, only those instances in which the name of the younger partner is known are included. In keeping with ancient traditions which promoted chaste pederastic relationships (See: [[Greek love]]) included below are also relationships in which there is evidence of an erotic component even in the absence of actual sexual relations.		In the following list the couples are listed in chronological order, and the name of the older partner precedes that of the younger. Though many more men are known to have engaged in such relationships, only those instances in which the name of the younger partner is known are included. In keeping with ancient traditions which promoted chaste pederastic relationships (See: [[Greek love]]) included below are also relationships in which there is evidence of an erotic component even in the absence of actual sexual relations.

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	*Empedocles and Pausanias		*Empedocles and Pausanias
	:*Pausanias was both friend and student of the philosopher.<ref>Diogenes Laertius, Lives of the Philosophers Life of Empedocles</ref>		:*Pausanias was both friend and student of the philosopher.<ref>Diogenes Laertius, Lives of the Philosophers Life of Empedocles</ref>
	*Socrates and Alcibiades		*[[Alcibiades\|Socrates and Alcibiades]]
	:*Each is said to have saved the life of the other in battle, and the relationship, which took place around 435-430 was said to have been chaste.<ref>Robert J. Littman, "The Loves of Alcibiades" in Transactions and Proceedings of the American Philological Association, Vol. 101, 1970 (1970), pp. 263-276 "Socrates' and Alcibiades' relationship is very much connected to the role of pederasty in education in classical Greece..."</ref>		:*Each is said to have saved the life of the other in battle, and the relationship, which took place around 435-430 was said to have been chaste.<ref>Robert J. Littman, "The Loves of Alcibiades" in Transactions and Proceedings of the American Philological Association, Vol. 101, 1970 (1970), pp. 263-276 "Socrates' and Alcibiades' relationship is very much connected to the role of pederasty in education in classical Greece..."</ref>
	*Critias and Euthydemos		*Critias and Euthydemos

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	*Anacreon and Critias		*Anacreon and Critias
	:*Hipparchus invited Anacreon to Athens after the death of Polycrates. There Anacreon took an eromenos, in whose house he lived, and who, in a reversal of the usual roles, wrote love poetry to his erastes. It is not certain which Critias this is, though it has been proposed that it is the same as the eponymous archon.<ref>Louis Crompton, Homosexuality and Civilization; p.22</ref><ref>Debra NailsThe People of Plato: A Prosopography of Plato and Other Socratics p.107</ref>		:*Hipparchus invited Anacreon to Athens after the death of Polycrates. There Anacreon took an eromenos, in whose house he lived, and who, in a reversal of the usual roles, wrote love poetry to his erastes. It is not certain which Critias this is, though it has been proposed that it is the same as the eponymous archon.<ref>Louis Crompton, Homosexuality and Civilization; p.22</ref><ref>Debra NailsThe People of Plato: A Prosopography of Plato and Other Socratics p.107</ref>
	*Aristogeiton and Harmodius		*[[Harmodius and Aristogeiton\|Aristogeiton and Harmodius]]
	:*Heroic couple, later lionized by the Athenian democrats, whose 514 BCE plot to assassinate Hippias in was credited with the overthrow of tyranny in Athens.<ref>Richard Hunter, Ed. Plato's Symposium (Oxford Approaches to Classical Literature) p.52</ref>		:*Heroic couple, later lionized by the Athenian democrats, whose 514 BCE plot to assassinate Hippias in was credited with the overthrow of tyranny in Athens.<ref>Richard Hunter, Ed. Plato's Symposium (Oxford Approaches to Classical Literature) p.52</ref>

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	==References==		==References==
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	==See also==		==See also==

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	==References==		==References==
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	==See also==		==See also==
	*[[Greek love]]		*[[Greek love]]

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	*Darius III of Persia and [[Bagoas (courtier)\|Bagoas]]		*Darius III of Persia and [[Bagoas (courtier)\|Bagoas]]
	:*Bagoas was the favorite of Darius, who was said to have been "intimate" with him.<ref>Curtius, Historiae Alexandri Magni, vi. 5; x. 1 </ref>		:*Bagoas was the favorite of Darius, who was said to have been "intimate" with him.<ref>Curtius, Historiae Alexandri Magni, vi. 5; x. 1 </ref>
	*Alexander the Great and Bagoas.		*Alexander the Great and [[Bagoas (courtier)\|Bagoas]].
	:*The two met in 330 BCE after the death of Bagoas' previous patron, Darius III.		:*The two met in 330 BCE after the death of Bagoas' previous patron, Darius III.
	*Dimnus and Nichomachus		*Dimnus and Nichomachus