Incest narrative - Revision history

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Relationship to other narratives

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	==Relationship to other narratives==		==Relationship to other narratives==
	The incest narrative, along with the [[rape narrative]], and the [[child abuse narrative]], are paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing adult-child sexual activity and (alleged) paternalistic attitudes towards incest in society.		The incest narrative, along with the [[rape narrative]], the [[BoyLover child-abuse narrative]], and the [[child abuse narrative]], are paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing adult-child sexual activity and (alleged) paternalistic attitudes towards incest in society.

	==Public discourse==		==Public discourse==

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The harms created by the incest narrative

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	Cases which come to the attention of the legal authorities ''do tend to be cases where the father/stepfather has used coercion.'' From these cases, it is (mistakenly) extrapolated that ''all'' cases of father/stepfather must involve coercion.		Cases which come to the attention of the legal authorities ''do tend to be cases where the father/stepfather has used coercion.'' From these cases, it is (mistakenly) extrapolated that ''all'' cases of father/stepfather must involve coercion.

	As incestuous activity is usually hidden, the actual percentage of cases which ''do ~~not~~'' involve coercion is unknown. It may be that most cases of incestuous activity ''do not'' involve coercion.		As incestuous activity is usually hidden, the actual percentage of cases which ''do'' involve coercion is unknown. It may be that most cases of incestuous activity ''do not'' involve coercion.

	Very often the daughter:		Very often the daughter:

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The paradigm

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	==The paradigm==		==The paradigm==
	The basics of the narrative are (note: very often these are ''false'' assumptions):		The basics of the narrative are (note: very often these are ''false'' assumptions):
	*the father/stepfather coerces the daughter into having sex with him.		*the father/stepfather always coerces the daughter into having sex with him.
	:*and the daughter:		:*and the daughter:
	::: is always unwilling		::: is always unwilling

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Public discourse

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	==Public discourse==		==Public discourse==
	The "rape narrative," "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are rarely rationally discussed in public, due to any attempts to do so being drowned out by the histrionics of those opposed to rational ~~thinking about~~ incest and adult-child sexual ~~activity~~. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications, but these publications are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".		The "rape narrative," "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are rarely rationally discussed in public, due to any attempts to do so being drowned out by the histrionics of those opposed to rational discussion of incest and adult-child sexual activities. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications, but these publications are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".

	==The harms created by the incest narrative==		==The harms created by the incest narrative==

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	==The paradigm==		==The paradigm==
	The basics of the narrative are (note: ~~usually~~ these are ''false'' assumptions):		The basics of the narrative are (note: very often these are ''false'' assumptions):
	*the father/stepfather coerces the daughter into having sex with him.		*the father/stepfather coerces the daughter into having sex with him.
	:*and the daughter:		:*and the daughter:
	::: is always unwilling		::: is always unwilling
	::: is always afraid		::: is always afraid
			::: is always vaginally or anally penetrated by the father/stepfather
	::: is always cowed into silence by threats		::: is always cowed into silence by threats
	::: is always filled with feelings of guilt and shame		::: is always filled with feelings of guilt and shame
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	==The harms created by the incest narrative==		==The harms created by the incest narrative==
	The father/stepfather ''does not always coerce his daughter into having sex with him.'' Sometimes the daughter's curiosity about sex leads her to behave seductively towards the father/stepfather, and sometimes the father/stepfather will respond to this, and engage in sexual activity with ~~the~~ daughter.		The father/stepfather ''does not always coerce his daughter into having sex with him.'' Sometimes the daughter's curiosity about sex leads her to behave seductively towards the father/stepfather, and sometimes the father/stepfather will respond to this, and engage in sexual activity with his daughter.

	Cases which come to the attention of the legal authorities ''do tend to be cases where the father/stepfather has used coercion.'' From these cases, it is (mistakenly) extrapolated that ''all'' cases of father/stepfather must involve coercion.		Cases which come to the attention of the legal authorities ''do tend to be cases where the father/stepfather has used coercion.'' From these cases, it is (mistakenly) extrapolated that ''all'' cases of father/stepfather must involve coercion.
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	If the girl ''has'' been coerced, threatened, etc. the therapist insists that the girl must "relive the experience" in order to "heal". The result of this, of course, is to reinforce any bad memories in the girl, and to increase the guilt, pain, and suffering of the girl.		If the girl ''has'' been coerced, threatened, etc. the therapist insists that the girl must "relive the experience" in order to "heal". The result of this, of course, is to reinforce any bad memories in the girl, and to increase the guilt, pain, and suffering of the girl.

			==Police interrogations of the (supposed) "victim"==
			Law enforcement officials are trained to believe in the "incest narrative," and will interrogate a (supposed) "victim" until the victim will make statements which support all of the elements of the "incest narrative". After many hours/days/weeks of badgering by police investigators, most girls will eventually collapse and give in to the intense pressure they are exposed to. The girls will affirm all the of allegations the investigators insist (falsely) to be true.

			These statements will then be used in court to convict the (alleged) "perpetrator," as well as by the media to add flames to the [[moral panic]] in society involving fears of (supposed) [[child sexual abuse]]. Politicians will then use these statements to justify more draconian laws against child sexual abuse and to garner voter support for their political ambitions.

	==Emotional incest==		==Emotional incest==

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 The '''incest narrative''' is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created by certain feminists to describe--from their point of view--(usually) father (or sometimes stepfather)/daughter sexual relationships.
 The basics of the narrative are (note: usually these are ''false'' assumptions):
 *the father/stepfather coerces the daughter into having sex with him.
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 ::: must relive the experience in "therapy" in order to "heal"
 The incest narrative, along with the [[rape narrative]], and the [[child abuse narrative]], are paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing adult-child sexual activity and (alleged) paternalistic attitudes towards incest in society.
 The "rape narrative," "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are rarely rationally discussed in public, due to any attempts to do so being drowned out by the histrionics of those opposed to rational thinking about incest and adult-child sexual activity. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications, but these publications are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".
 ==See also==

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	The incest narrative, along with the [[rape narrative]], and the [[child abuse narrative]], are paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing adult-child sexual activity and paternalistic attitudes towards incest in society.		The incest narrative, along with the [[rape narrative]], and the [[child abuse narrative]], are paradigms created by certain groups interested in demonizing adult-child sexual activity and (alleged) paternalistic attitudes towards incest in society.

	The "rape narrative," "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are rarely rationally discussed in public, due to any attempts to do so being drowned out by the histrionics of those opposed to rational thinking about incest and adult-child sexual activity. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications, but these publications are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".		The "rape narrative," "incest narrative," and the "child abuse narrative" are rarely rationally discussed in public, due to any attempts to do so being drowned out by the histrionics of those opposed to rational thinking about incest and adult-child sexual activity. These topics are occasionally addressed in academic publications, but these publications are not easily available to the "unwashed masses".

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	The '''incest narrative''' is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created by certain feminists to describe--from their point of view--(usually) father (or stepfather)/daughter sexual relationships.		The '''incest narrative''' is a stereotypical narrative (or story) which has been created by certain feminists to describe--from their point of view--(usually) father (or sometimes stepfather)/daughter sexual relationships.

	The basics of the narrative are (note: usually these are ''false'' assumptions):		The basics of the narrative are (note: usually these are ''false'' assumptions):

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	*[[rape narrative]]		*[[rape narrative]]
	*[[child abuse narrative]]		*[[child abuse narrative]]
			*[[BoyLover child-abuse narrative]]
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	[[Category:Psychology]]		[[Category:Psychology]]
	[[Category:Sexuality]]		[[Category:Sexuality]]

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	[[Category:Sexuality]]		[[Category:Sexuality]]