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	*from 'Accepting Diversity', an editorial in the Hartford, Connecticut gay magazine, Metroline, 26 July 1991		*from 'Accepting Diversity', an editorial in the Hartford, Connecticut gay magazine, Metroline, 26 July 1991

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	“Paedophiles are told they are the seducers and rapists of children; they know their experiences are often loving and tender ones. They are told that children are pure and innocent, devoid of sexuality; they know both from their own experiences of childhood and from the children they meet that this is not the case.”		“Paedophiles are told they are the seducers and rapists of children; they know their experiences are often loving and tender ones. They are told that children are pure and innocent, devoid of sexuality; they know both from their own experiences of childhood and from the children they meet that this is not the case.”

	“The isolation, secrecy, guilt and anguish of many pedophiles are not intrinsic to the phenomenon but are derived from the extreme social pressure placed on minorities.”		“The isolation, [[secrecy]], guilt and anguish of many pedophiles are not intrinsic to the phenomenon but are derived from the extreme social pressure placed on minorities.”

	“Many adult pedophiles say that boys actively seek out sex partners …’childhood’ itself is not a biological given but an historically produced social object.”		“Many adult pedophiles say that boys actively seek out sex partners …’childhood’ itself is not a biological given but an historically produced social object.”

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	*Dr. Preben Hertoft, eminent Copenhagen sexologist, 'Introduction', ''[[Crime Without Victims]]'', Amsterdam: Global Academic Publishers, 1993.		*Dr. Preben Hertoft, eminent Copenhagen sexologist, 'Introduction', ''[[Crime Without Victims]]'', Amsterdam: Global Academic Publishers, 1993.

			===Philip Tromovitch===

			“Pedophilic interest is natural and normal for males. At least a sizeable minority of normal males would like to have sex with children…Normal males are aroused by children.”

			*Philip Tromovitch, mathematician, Doshisha University, Science and Engineering Research Institute, Kyoto City, Japan at the July 4-5, 2013, conference about sexuality held at the University of Cambridge.

			===Kenneth Plummer===
			“Paedophiles are told they are the seducers and rapists of children; they know their experiences are often loving and tender ones. They are told that children are pure and innocent, devoid of sexuality; they know both from their own experiences of childhood and from the children they meet that this is not the case.”

			“The isolation, secrecy, guilt and anguish of many pedophiles are not intrinsic to the phenomenon but are derived from the extreme social pressure placed on minorities.”

			“Many adult pedophiles say that boys actively seek out sex partners …’childhood’ itself is not a biological given but an historically produced social object.”

			*Professor Ken Plummer, Scholar/Activist, Emeritus Professor, University of Essex, at the July 4-5, 2013 conference about sexuality held at the University of Cambridge

	==Journalist Perspectives==		==Journalist Perspectives==

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	These days, you rarely if ever hear anyone speak positively about intergenerational sexual activity or relationships. If someone does, he or she will immediately be viciously attacked and shouted down by the supporters of the "child abuse narrative". In the case of a professional who speaks out, most likely he or she will lose their employment, their academic status, and any credibility they may have had.		These days, you rarely if ever hear anyone speak positively about intergenerational sexual activity or relationships. If someone does, he or she will immediately be viciously attacked and shouted down by the supporters of the "[[child abuse narrative]]". In the case of a professional who speaks out, most likely he or she will lose their employment, their academic status, and any credibility they may have had.

	But in the past it ''was'' possible to speak out, and many did. Here is a selection of quotes from notable people in the past:		But in the past it ''was'' possible to speak out, and many did. Here is a selection of quotes from notable people in the past:

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			These days, you rarely if ever hear anyone speak positively about intergenerational sexual activity or relationships. If someone does, he or she will immediately be viciously attacked and shouted down by the supporters of the "child abuse narrative". In the case of a professional who speaks out, most likely he or she will lose their employment, their academic status, and any credibility they may have had.

			But in the past it ''was'' possible to speak out, and many did. Here is a selection of quotes from notable people in the past:

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	The recent career of boy-love in the public mind should serve as an alert that the self-interests of the feminist and gay movements are linked to simple justice for stigmatized sexual minorities. ... We must not reject all sexual contact between adults and young people as inherently oppressive."		The recent career of boy-love in the public mind should serve as an alert that the self-interests of the feminist and gay movements are linked to simple justice for stigmatized sexual minorities. ... We must not reject all sexual contact between adults and young people as inherently oppressive."

	*Gayle Rubin, lesbian feminist, in Leaping Lesbian, February, 1978.		*[[Gayle Rubin]], lesbian feminist, in Leaping Lesbian, February, 1978.

	===Camille Paglia===		===Camille Paglia===
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	"It is quite difficult to lay down barriers [particularly since] it could be that the child, with his own sexuality, may have desired the adult."		"It is quite difficult to lay down barriers [particularly since] it could be that the child, with his own sexuality, may have desired the adult."

	*Michel Foucault, philosopher, speaking against "age-of-consent" laws, See: James Miller, The Passion of Michel Foucault (New York: Simon & Shuster, 1992).		*[[Michel Foucault]], philosopher, speaking against "age-of-consent" laws, See: James Miller, The Passion of Michel Foucault (New York: Simon & Shuster, 1992).

	===John Preston===		===John Preston===
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	Wilde: 'The Love that dare not speak its name' in this century is such a great affection of an elder for a younger man as there was between David and Jonathan, such as Plato made the very basis of his philosophy, and such as you find in the sonnets of Michelangelo and Shakespeare. It is that deep, spiritual affection that is as pure as it is perfect. It dictates and pervades great works of art like those of Shakespeare and Michelangelo, and those two letters of mine, such as they are. It is in this century misunderstood, so much misunderstood that it may be described as the "Love that dare not speak its name, " and on account of it I am placed where I am now. It is beautiful, it is fine, it is the noblest form of affection. There is nothing unnatural about it. It is intellectual, and it repeatedly exists between an elder and a younger man, when the elder man has intellect, and the younger man has all the joy, hope and glamour of life before him. That it should be so, the world does not understand. The world mocks at it and sometimes puts one in the pillory for it.		Wilde: 'The Love that dare not speak its name' in this century is such a great affection of an elder for a younger man as there was between David and Jonathan, such as Plato made the very basis of his philosophy, and such as you find in the sonnets of Michelangelo and Shakespeare. It is that deep, spiritual affection that is as pure as it is perfect. It dictates and pervades great works of art like those of Shakespeare and Michelangelo, and those two letters of mine, such as they are. It is in this century misunderstood, so much misunderstood that it may be described as the "Love that dare not speak its name, " and on account of it I am placed where I am now. It is beautiful, it is fine, it is the noblest form of affection. There is nothing unnatural about it. It is intellectual, and it repeatedly exists between an elder and a younger man, when the elder man has intellect, and the younger man has all the joy, hope and glamour of life before him. That it should be so, the world does not understand. The world mocks at it and sometimes puts one in the pillory for it.

	[Wilde's speech caused a loud burst of applause to erupt from the gallery of the courtroom]		Wilde's speech caused a loud burst of applause to erupt from the gallery of the courtroom]

			[[Oscar Wilde]]

	===Michael Kearns===		===Michael Kearns===
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	"NAMBLA Walks With Me."		"NAMBLA Walks With Me."
	*Harry Hay, Radical Faerie & activist, L.A. Gay Pride Parade, 1986		*[[Harry Hay]], Radical Faerie & activist, L.A. Gay Pride Parade, 1986

	==Academic Perspectives==		==Academic Perspectives==
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	"If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual, then I would not call it pathological in any way."		"If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual, then I would not call it pathological in any way."

	*John Money, Professor Emeritus of Medical Psychology, Johns Hopkins University, in an interview in Paidika, Spring, 1991.		*[[John Money]], Professor Emeritus of Medical Psychology, Johns Hopkins University, in an interview in Paidika, Spring, 1991.

			==Richard Green==
	"Membership in the... North American Man/Boy Love Association is not		"Membership in the... North American Man/Boy Love Association is not
	required in order to question whether every instance of intergenerational		required in order to question whether every instance of intergenerational
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	"It is ordinarily said that criminal law is designed to protect property and to protect persons, and if society's only interest in controlling sex behavior were to protect persons, then the criminal codes concerned with assault and battery should provide adequate protection. The fact that there is a body of sex laws which is apart from the laws protecting persons is evidence of their distinct function, namely that of protecting custom."		"It is ordinarily said that criminal law is designed to protect property and to protect persons, and if society's only interest in controlling sex behavior were to protect persons, then the criminal codes concerned with assault and battery should provide adequate protection. The fact that there is a body of sex laws which is apart from the laws protecting persons is evidence of their distinct function, namely that of protecting custom."

	*Alfred Kinsey, W Pomeroy and C Martin, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, (Philadelphia, W B Saunders, 1948). 1999 was the 50th anniversary of the publication of Kinsey's first volume in 1948.		*[[Alfred Kinsey]], W Pomeroy and C Martin, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, (Philadelphia, W B Saunders, 1948). 1999 was the 50th anniversary of the publication of Kinsey's first volume in 1948.

	"When children are constantly warned by parents and teachers against contacts with adults, and when they receive no explanation of the exact nature of the contacts, they are ready to become hysterical as soon as any older person approaches, or stops and speaks to them in the street, or fondles them, or proposes to do something for them, even though the adult may have had no sexual objective in mind. Some of the more experienced students of juvenile problems have come to believe that the emotional reactions of the parents, police officers, and other adults who discover that the child has had such a contact, may disturb the child more seriously than the sexual contacts themselves. The current hysteria over sex offenders may very well have serious effects on the ability of many of these children to work out sexual adjustments some years later..."		"When children are constantly warned by parents and teachers against contacts with adults, and when they receive no explanation of the exact nature of the contacts, they are ready to become hysterical as soon as any older person approaches, or stops and speaks to them in the street, or fondles them, or proposes to do something for them, even though the adult may have had no sexual objective in mind. Some of the more experienced students of juvenile problems have come to believe that the emotional reactions of the parents, police officers, and other adults who discover that the child has had such a contact, may disturb the child more seriously than the sexual contacts themselves. The current hysteria over sex offenders may very well have serious effects on the ability of many of these children to work out sexual adjustments some years later..."
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	"It is possible that the [boy-lover's] marginal position alerts him not only to self-interest but the pains suffered by all the outcast. This is not a necessary consequence of [loving boys], of course, any more than virtue is of poverty. Still, that passion for helping the child is so strong in relations [between men and boys] that even the police acknowledge it."		"It is possible that the [boy-lover's] marginal position alerts him not only to self-interest but the pains suffered by all the outcast. This is not a necessary consequence of [loving boys], of course, any more than virtue is of poverty. Still, that passion for helping the child is so strong in relations [between men and boys] that even the police acknowledge it."

	*James Kincaid, professor of English, University of Southern California in Child Loving (New York: Routledge, 1992)		*[[James Kincaid]], professor of English, University of Southern California in Child Loving (New York: Routledge, 1992)

	===Colin Spencer===		===Colin Spencer===
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	"...in cases of mutual consent and mutual sexual attraction, sexual activity itself [between men and boys] seems to produce no damaging effects. It is to be hoped that this may put parents' minds at rest and help them to avoid being unnecessarily upset and anxious."		"...in cases of mutual consent and mutual sexual attraction, sexual activity itself [between men and boys] seems to produce no damaging effects. It is to be hoped that this may put parents' minds at rest and help them to avoid being unnecessarily upset and anxious."

	*Dr. Preben Hertoft, eminent Copenhagen sexologist, 'Introduction', Crime Without Victims, Amsterdam: Global Academic Publishers, 1993.		*Dr. Preben Hertoft, eminent Copenhagen sexologist, 'Introduction', ''[[Crime Without Victims]]'', Amsterdam: Global Academic Publishers, 1993.

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	BOSTON, 31 Dec -- Four years ago this month, after two dozen men were indicted for sex crimes in the nearby town of Revere, a conference was held downtown at the Community Church of Boston. About 30 men [and boys] stayed on to talk of the difficult issue discussed at the conference, and they decided to form an organization to promote understanding of their kind of love and to seek a change in the law. Thus, in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, where many of the laws on sexual conduct date from the Puritan period, was born the most provocative name of any homosexual organization in the United States: the North American Man-Boy Love Association, dedicated to the proposition that state laws establishing a sexual age of consent should be repealed. ...		BOSTON, 31 Dec -- Four years ago this month, after two dozen men were indicted for sex crimes in the nearby town of Revere, a conference was held downtown at the Community Church of Boston. About 30 men [and boys] stayed on to talk of the difficult issue discussed at the conference, and they decided to form an organization to promote understanding of their kind of love and to seek a change in the law. Thus, in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, where many of the laws on sexual conduct date from the Puritan period, was born the most provocative name of any homosexual organization in the United States: the North American Man-Boy Love Association, dedicated to the proposition that state laws establishing a sexual age of consent should be repealed. ...

	*''Dudley Clendinen'', The New York Times, 1 January 1983 (page 1) <strong>Metroline</strong>		*''Dudley Clendinen'', The New York Times, 1 January 1983 (page 1) <strong>Metroline</strong>

	===Metroline===		===Metroline===

	"Our foes waved NAMBLA Bulletins at the state capitol for years protesting the gay rights bill. But NAMBLA has made very strong statements and distinctions against child abuse. How many of its opponents have really listened to what the organization actually supports?"		"Our foes waved NAMBLA Bulletins at the state capitol for years protesting the gay rights bill. But NAMBLA has made very strong statements and distinctions against child abuse. How many of its opponents have really listened to what the organization actually supports?"

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	"These days, especially in America, boy-love is not only scandalous and criminal, but somehow in bad taste. On the evening news, one sees handcuffed teachers, priests and Boy Scout leaders hustled into police vans. Therapists call them maladjusted, emotionally immature. But beauty has its own laws, inconsistent with Christian morality. As a woman, I feel free to protest that men today are pilloried for something that was rational and honorable in Greece at the height of its civilization."		"These days, especially in America, boy-love is not only scandalous and criminal, but somehow in bad taste. On the evening news, one sees handcuffed teachers, priests and Boy Scout leaders hustled into police vans. Therapists call them maladjusted, emotionally immature. But beauty has its own laws, inconsistent with Christian morality. As a woman, I feel free to protest that men today are pilloried for something that was rational and honorable in Greece at the height of its civilization."

	*Camille Paglia, activist and author, in Sexual Personae (New York, Vintage Books, 1991).		*[[Camille Paglia]], activist and author, in Sexual Personae (New York, Vintage Books, 1991).

	===Pat Califia===		===Pat Califia===

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	"Boy-lovers and the lesbians who have young lovers are the only people offering a hand to help young women and men cross the difficult terrain between straight society and the gay community. They are not child molesters. The child abusers are priests, teachers, therapists, cops and parents who force their stale morality onto the young people in their custody. Instead of condemning pedophiles for their involvement with lesbian and gay youth, we should be supporting them."		"Boy-lovers and the lesbians who have young lovers are the only people offering a hand to help young women and men cross the difficult terrain between straight society and the gay community. They are not child molesters. The child abusers are priests, teachers, therapists, cops and parents who force their stale morality onto the young people in their custody. Instead of condemning pedophiles for their involvement with lesbian and gay youth, we should be supporting them."

	*Pat Califia, lesbian author and activist, in The Advocate, October 1980.		*[[Pat Califia]], lesbian author and activist, in The Advocate, October 1980.

	===Jane Rule===		===Jane Rule===

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	I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too -- everybody does, who has a little humanity."		I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too -- everybody does, who has a little humanity."

	*Allen Ginsberg, poet		*[[Allen Ginsberg]], poet

	"If you just take a walk through the Vatican, you could say everybody loves the slightly erotic emanation of nude prepubescent bodies."		"If you just take a walk through the Vatican, you could say everybody loves the slightly erotic emanation of nude prepubescent bodies."