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	A [https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt7779s1q0/dsc/?query=guyon;dsc.position=2501#hitNum1 Subject file on the Rene Guyon Society] is in the ONE National Gay & Lesbian Archives, USC Libraries, University of Southern California. The file is not online and the catalog gives no description of its size.		A [https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/kt7779s1q0/dsc/?query=guyon;dsc.position=2501#hitNum1 Subject file on the Rene Guyon Society] is in the ONE National Gay & Lesbian Archives, USC Libraries, University of Southern California. The file is not online and the catalog gives no description of its size.
	== References ==		== References ==
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			==See also==
			*[https://www.voxclamantis.nl/1files-sub/denialsexfreedom.htm Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom Rene Guyon's 1951 manifesto]

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	A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization appeared in the Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1965, and articles in the early 70s substantiate a membership of about a dozen, while the organizer claimed 5,000 supporters. The Rene Guyon Society filed amicus briefs in several court cases, including that of Sirhan Sirhan, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>		A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref>"Due to its inflammatory slogan 'Sex Before Eight, or Else It's Too Late' the Rene Guyon Society of Beverly Hills, California, has become widely publicized in news articles about pedophiles," the committee noted in 1986.(ibid) The organization appeared in the Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1965, and articles in the early 70s substantiate a membership of about a dozen, while the organizer claimed 5,000 supporters. The Rene Guyon Society filed amicus briefs in several court cases, including that of Sirhan Sirhan, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>

	== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==		== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==

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	The ''Berkeley Barb'' has two articles devoted to the Gunyon Society in its August 20-26, 1971 issue. In the lower, Don Jackson writes about the Rene Gunyon Society's attempt to "to amend me Brown Bill (Assembly Bill 437) to completely repeal the laws against sodomy, oral copulation, copulation with minors and masturbation. All of these acts are felonies under present laws."<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFBJFGD19710820.1.4 Jackson, Don. "Child Sex Frustration Leads to H"] ''Berkeley Barb'', Volume 13, issue 6(314), August 20-26, 1971, p.4</ref> The article concludes with, "Another immediate impact of the reform bill would be collapse of the anti-sex industry, a major industry employing an estimated 100,000 people in California. The Rene Guyon Society is a sexual freedom group of 422 Los Angeles County families. It militates for equal rights for children," and gives the Alhambra address.(ibid)		The ''Berkeley Barb'' has two articles devoted to the Gunyon Society in its August 20-26, 1971 issue. In the lower, Don Jackson writes about the Rene Gunyon Society's attempt to "to amend me Brown Bill (Assembly Bill 437) to completely repeal the laws against sodomy, oral copulation, copulation with minors and masturbation. All of these acts are felonies under present laws."<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFBJFGD19710820.1.4 Jackson, Don. "Child Sex Frustration Leads to H"] ''Berkeley Barb'', Volume 13, issue 6(314), August 20-26, 1971, p.4</ref> The article concludes with, "Another immediate impact of the reform bill would be collapse of the anti-sex industry, a major industry employing an estimated 100,000 people in California. The Rene Guyon Society is a sexual freedom group of 422 Los Angeles County families. It militates for equal rights for children," and gives the Alhambra address.(ibid)

	The upper article on the page, "Guyon Society - Kids’ Sexlib", is illustrated with what looks like a page from a sketchbook, showing five children, and may not now be legal in all jurisdictions. A preschool girl hangs by her knees from playground equipment, her skirt falling down to show she's not wearing panties; two sketches show toddlers, a boy and a girl, both nude and masturbating; the last sketch shows a somewhat older boy and girl, clothed ~~and together~~, he's lying on his back and she's sitting on his face, which is covered by her skirt. A marginal sketch beside the byline ("Armando Coleslaw") shows a toddler on his feet, leaning forward on his head, he is nude and shown from the rear. The reporter says, "... we sent for The Rene Guyon Society’s literature. I wanted to give you more information from their literature and some of my comments." The literature includes a reprinted article, "Only 5 of 102 Pedophiles Who Received Treatment Convicted Again, Court Hears Also Children ‘Not Harmed’ by Pedophilia". The reporter mentions "A lengthy research paper: “Guyon: of Sex and Children” for some guy’s master's degree in sociology", but gives neither author nor university.<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFBJFGD19710820.1.4 Coleslaw, Armando. "Guyon Society - Kids’ Sexlib"] ''Berkeley Barb'', Volume 13, issue 6(314), August 20-26, 1971, p.4</ref>		The upper article on the page, "Guyon Society - Kids’ Sexlib", is illustrated with what looks like a page from a sketchbook, showing five children, and may not now be legal in all jurisdictions. A preschool girl hangs by her knees from playground equipment, her skirt falling down to show she's not wearing panties; two sketches show toddlers, a boy and a girl, both nude and masturbating; the last sketch shows a somewhat older boy and girl together, clothed, he is lying on his back in a meadow, and she's sitting on his face, which is covered by her skirt. A marginal sketch beside the byline ("Armando Coleslaw") shows a toddler on his feet, leaning forward on his head, he is nude and shown from the rear. The reporter says, "... we sent for The Rene Guyon Society’s literature. I wanted to give you more information from their literature and some of my comments." The literature includes a reprinted article, "Only 5 of 102 Pedophiles Who Received Treatment Convicted Again, Court Hears Also Children ‘Not Harmed’ by Pedophilia". The reporter mentions "A lengthy research paper: “Guyon: of Sex and Children” for some guy’s master's degree in sociology", but gives neither author nor university.<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFBJFGD19710820.1.4 Coleslaw, Armando. "Guyon Society - Kids’ Sexlib"] ''Berkeley Barb'', Volume 13, issue 6(314), August 20-26, 1971, p.4</ref>

	Mr. Coleslaw observes:<blockquote>Ideas later to be embraced by a conformistic society often start out in small, semi-secret groups. Nudity is another example. The latest thing is to go skinny-dipping at Wreck Beach, UBC, but how many know that nudist clubs have been fighting for the right to live their philosophy for decades.(ibid)</blockquote>		Mr. Coleslaw observes:<blockquote>Ideas later to be embraced by a conformistic society often start out in small, semi-secret groups. Nudity is another example. The latest thing is to go skinny-dipping at Wreck Beach, UBC, but how many know that nudist clubs have been fighting for the right to live their philosophy for decades.(ibid)</blockquote>
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	<blockquote>In all, three “swinging” families—friends of the Guyon Society - were interviewed by telephone. Two of the interviewees (husbands) described their experiences as families participating with other families in sexual recreation which involved the children as well as the adults. One man explained that he and his wife had been introduced to the idea of sharing sex with their children by another couple with whom they had been mate-exchanging for several months.(ibid)</blockquote>		<blockquote>In all, three “swinging” families—friends of the Guyon Society - were interviewed by telephone. Two of the interviewees (husbands) described their experiences as families participating with other families in sexual recreation which involved the children as well as the adults. One man explained that he and his wife had been introduced to the idea of sharing sex with their children by another couple with whom they had been mate-exchanging for several months.(ibid)</blockquote>

	The interviewees were described as "friends of" rather than "members of" the society. But counting them, and assuming the Rene Gunyon Society gives children full membership, one child per couple, plus Tim O'Hara, plus ~~three people~~ inside ~~and outside~~ the Santa Monica court in 1970 (who if convicted would likely be unavailable for interview in less than several years), that brings the presumed membership up to thirteen.(ibid) That upgrades the Society from a one-man operation, to a ~~swingers'~~ club with a newsletter.		The interviewees were described as "friends of" rather than "members of" the society. But counting them, and assuming the Rene Gunyon Society gives children full membership, one child per couple, plus Tim O'Hara, plus one person outside and two inside the Santa Monica court in 1970 (who if convicted would likely be unavailable for interview in less than several years), that brings the presumed membership up to thirteen.(ibid) That upgrades the Society from a one-man operation, to a wife-swapping club with a newsletter.

	== 1977 Congressional Investigations ==		== 1977 Congressional Investigations ==

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	A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization appeared in the Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1965, and articles in the early 70s substantiate a membership of ~~over~~ a dozen. The Rene Guyon Society filed amicus briefs in several court cases, including that of Sirhan Sirhan, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>		A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization appeared in the Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1965, and articles in the early 70s substantiate a membership of about a dozen, while the organizer claimed 5,000 supporters. The Rene Guyon Society filed amicus briefs in several court cases, including that of Sirhan Sirhan, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>

	== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==		== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==

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	A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization ~~attracted coverage~~ Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1965, and filed amicus briefs in several court cases, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>		A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization appeared in the Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1965, and articles in the early 70s substantiate a membership of over a dozen. The Rene Guyon Society filed amicus briefs in several court cases, including that of Sirhan Sirhan, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>

	== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==		== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==

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			The first published mention of the Rene Guyon Society is a classified ad in the ''Los Angeles Free Press'' on its last two editions of 1965 reads in its entirety, "The Rene Guyon Society 406 South Second Street Alhambra, California".<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BGJFHJH19651224.1.7 Classified ad]. ''Los Angeles Free Press'', Volume 2, Issue 52(75), 24 December 1965, p 7. ISSN 0024-6573</ref><ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BGJFHJH19651231.1.12 Classified ad]. ''Los Angeles Free Press'', Volume 2, 53(76), 31 December 1965, p 12. ISSN 0024-6573</ref> The Alhamabra address now holds the County of Los Angeles's "Discovery Time Children's Center". <ref>[https://childcare.lacounty.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/LACEmployeeCCDCenters11July18.pdf Discovery Time Children's Center] at 406 South Second Street Alhambra</ref> The ''East Village Other'', in a February 1967 article asks, "Is California setting the lead for the world in general, and for America in particular, in regard to the instituting of new sex mores?", and goes on to laud California climate as "... almost ideal for year-round sex. Rolling in the hay is usually a hell of a lot more fun than rolling in snowdrifts." The article names "the Rene Guyon Society" along with two other "libertarian organizations".<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFGHCGB19670215.1.9 Ellis, Albert. "San Francisco's 69’ers"]. ''The East Village Other'', Volume 2, issue 6, February 15 - March 1, 1967. p. 9</ref>

			The Rene Guyon Society reappeared in the ''Los Angeles Free Press'' a little over three years later, with an ''amicus curiae'' brief (which the court rejected) in the case of Sirhan Sirhan, arguing that his assassination of Robert F. Kennedy was due to psychiatric issues and that "...it felt the defendant Sirhan Bishar a Sirhan was a victim of sexual unwisdom. Ten requests [...] were listed, including a request that Sirhan be analyzed by Freudian psychiatrists or sexological psychologists that the Amicus would furnish; and that the defendant be made a ward of the Guyon Society for five years."<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BGJFHJH19690322.1.12 Russo, Julie. Guyon Society, Freud Defend Sirhan]. ''Los Angeles Free Press'', 244-Part Two, 22 March 1969, p. 12. ISSN 0024-6573</ref>

			In 1970, the society appears on page two of the ''Los Angeles Free Press'', (sandwiched between "M.D. on Manson's Sex Life" on the cover, and to the right, "Chicago Conspiracy trial: Bill Kunstler denounces Daley") as a photo and caption: "Mrs. Patti Brown, 19, of Santa Monica, a supporter of the Rene Guyon Society, stands silent vigil with a cross, protesting [...] [A]dults inside the Santa Monica Courthouse are being prosecuted for 'providing sexual relief' to two children. The Legal Committee of the Guyon Society is proffering amicus briefs in the cases regarding the oral copulation, masturbation and delinquency contributing charges." <ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BGJFHJH19700123.1.1 Photo and caption]. ''Los Angeles Free Press'', Vol 7 issue 288, January 23-29, 1970, p. 2. ISSN 0024-6573</ref> The photo shows that the Rene Guyon Society has at least one supporter other than its founder.

			The ''Berkeley Barb'' has two articles devoted to the Gunyon Society in its August 20-26, 1971 issue. In the lower, Don Jackson writes about the Rene Gunyon Society's attempt to "to amend me Brown Bill (Assembly Bill 437) to completely repeal the laws against sodomy, oral copulation, copulation with minors and masturbation. All of these acts are felonies under present laws."<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFBJFGD19710820.1.4 Jackson, Don. "Child Sex Frustration Leads to H"] ''Berkeley Barb'', Volume 13, issue 6(314), August 20-26, 1971, p.4</ref> The article concludes with, "Another immediate impact of the reform bill would be collapse of the anti-sex industry, a major industry employing an estimated 100,000 people in California. The Rene Guyon Society is a sexual freedom group of 422 Los Angeles County families. It militates for equal rights for children," and gives the Alhambra address.(ibid)

			The upper article on the page, "Guyon Society - Kids’ Sexlib", is illustrated with what looks like a page from a sketchbook, showing five children, and may not now be legal in all jurisdictions. A preschool girl hangs by her knees from playground equipment, her skirt falling down to show she's not wearing panties; two sketches show toddlers, a boy and a girl, both nude and masturbating; the last sketch shows a somewhat older boy and girl, clothed and together, he's lying on his back and she's sitting on his face, which is covered by her skirt. A marginal sketch beside the byline ("Armando Coleslaw") shows a toddler on his feet, leaning forward on his head, he is nude and shown from the rear. The reporter says, "... we sent for The Rene Guyon Society’s literature. I wanted to give you more information from their literature and some of my comments." The literature includes a reprinted article, "Only 5 of 102 Pedophiles Who Received Treatment Convicted Again, Court Hears Also Children ‘Not Harmed’ by Pedophilia". The reporter mentions "A lengthy research paper: “Guyon: of Sex and Children” for some guy’s master's degree in sociology", but gives neither author nor university.<ref>[https://voices.revealdigital.org/?a=d&d=BFBJFGD19710820.1.4 Coleslaw, Armando. "Guyon Society - Kids’ Sexlib"] ''Berkeley Barb'', Volume 13, issue 6(314), August 20-26, 1971, p.4</ref>

			Mr. Coleslaw observes:<blockquote>Ideas later to be embraced by a conformistic society often start out in small, semi-secret groups. Nudity is another example. The latest thing is to go skinny-dipping at Wreck Beach, UBC, but how many know that nudist clubs have been fighting for the right to live their philosophy for decades.(ibid)</blockquote>
			On the size of the society, Coleslaw says, "Organization and office-keeping of the Rene Guyon Society seems to be a one-man operation. This guy in Alhambra, California keeps the members’ names confidential, gathers and sends the literature and writes the bulletin."(bis) He actually interviewed three people:
			<blockquote>In all, three “swinging” families—friends of the Guyon Society - were interviewed by telephone. Two of the interviewees (husbands) described their experiences as families participating with other families in sexual recreation which involved the children as well as the adults. One man explained that he and his wife had been introduced to the idea of sharing sex with their children by another couple with whom they had been mate-exchanging for several months.(ibid)</blockquote>

			The interviewees were described as "friends of" rather than "members of" the society. But counting them, and assuming the Rene Gunyon Society gives children full membership, one child per couple, plus Tim O'Hara, plus three people inside and outside the Santa Monica court in 1970 (who if convicted would likely be unavailable for interview in less than several years), that brings the presumed membership up to thirteen.(ibid) That upgrades the Society from a one-man operation, to a swingers' club with a newsletter.

	== 1977 Congressional Investigations ==		== 1977 Congressional Investigations ==

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	A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization attracted coverage Los Angeles alternative press as early as ~~1969~~, and filed amicus briefs in several court cases, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>		A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization attracted coverage Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1965, and filed amicus briefs in several court cases, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>

	== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==		== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==

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	A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization ~~was based in~~ Los Angeles and the ~~local~~ police, ~~who~~ had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>		A Senate investigative committee determined that "... the Rene Guyon Society is widely known by most investigators as a one-man propaganda operation whose membership claims are not credible."<ref>[https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED275958.pdf#20 Child Pornography and Pedophilia]. Report Made by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Governmental Affairs. United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress, Second Session. Congress of the U.S., Washington, DC. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Oct 9, 1986, p. 16. (ERIC Number: ED275958)</ref> The organization attracted coverage Los Angeles alternative press as early as 1969, and filed amicus briefs in several court cases, before achieving national notoriety in Congressional hearings in 1977 during the [[great kiddie porn panic]]. The Los Angeles police, which had a dedicated child exploitation task force, concluded that it was "little more than one flamboyant pedophile" after placing that man under surveillance.(''ibid'', p.25) However, the organizer's exaggerated claims were widely repeated in the press for over a decade before the committee debunked them in 1986, but like much fake news, the claims had acquired a life of their own, especially the short, rhyming slogan. [[The Meese Report]] still cited the Rene Guyon Society as credible, the same year the Senate investigation dismissed it.<ref>[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015073491824&view=1up&seq=671 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography: final report]. United States. Attorney General's Commission on Pornography. (1986). Washington, D.C.: U.S. Dept. of Justice. p.663 ffn</ref>

	== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==		== Debunked by 1986 Senate Investigation ==
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	Despite that determination, an Internet search will find many discussions well into the 21st century treating the Rene Guyon society as more than one man, based on the expansive claims of Tim O'Hara during earlier Congressional investigations.		Despite that determination, an Internet search will find many discussions well into the 21st century treating the Rene Guyon society as more than one man, based on the expansive claims of Tim O'Hara during earlier Congressional investigations.

			== Alternative press coverage ==

	== 1977 Congressional Investigations ==		== 1977 Congressional Investigations ==

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	*[~~https://www.voxclamantis.nl/1files-sub/denialsexfreedom.htm~~ Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom Rene Guyon's 1951 manifesto]		*[[Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom\| Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom Rene Guyon's 1951 manifesto]]
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	*[https://www.voxclamantis.nl/1files-sub/denialsexfreedom.htm Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom Rene Guyon's 1951 manifesto]		*[https://www.voxclamantis.nl/1files-sub/denialsexfreedom.htm Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom Rene Guyon's 1951 manifesto]
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