Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song (film) - Revision history

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	An IMDB review describes the sex scene:		An IMDB review describes the sex scene:
	<blockquote>In the opening scene a 13 year old boy, played by Peebles' son Mario, makes love with a hooker. This scene runs 3½ minutes. The boy is shown nude primarily from the rear, much of this time on top of the woman. Split-second views of male frontal nudity occurs a couple of times. The hooker is shown fully nude, front and back, but her pubic hair is visible only briefly.</blockquote>		<blockquote>In the opening scene a 13 year old boy, played by Peebles' son Mario, makes love with a hooker. This scene runs 3½ minutes. The boy is shown nude primarily from the rear, much of this time on top of the woman. Split-second views of male frontal nudity occurs a couple of times. The hooker is shown fully nude, front and back, but her pubic hair is visible only briefly.</blockquote>
			The younger Sweetback character is described in the online Criterion Collection notes as "Mario Van Peebles ... Sweetback, age ten".<ref name=criterion /> Current obscenity law can criminalize visual representations that "appear to depict minors", lending importance to the character's age, and not only the actor's.<ref>U.S Department of Justice, "Citizen's Guide To U.S. Federal Law On Obscenity"</ref>

	Mario had previous acting credits, including the soap opera 'One Life to Live', and while he did no acting for a decade after 'Sweet Sweetback', he did get a BA in Economics from Colombia in 1978, and went on to forty years of uninterrupted work in Hollywood.<ref>[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005522/ IMDB page for Mario Van Peebles]</ref>		Mario Van Peebles had previous acting credits, including the soap opera 'One Life to Live', and while he did no acting for a decade after 'Sweet Sweetback', he did get a BA in Economics from Colombia in 1978, and went on to forty years of uninterrupted work in Hollywood.<ref>[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005522/ IMDB page for Mario Van Peebles]</ref>

	The scene appears in a number of lists of controversial sex scenes, reviewers variously giving Mario's age as 11, 13, or 14 ~~- as~~ the scene was filmed in 1970 and the younger Peebles was born in January, 1957, the calendar favors 13. One review puts the actress as in her 40s. Mario is sometimes described as being "practically forced" to perform the role. Mario has stated that the scene was not real but simulated. (needs source).		The scene appears in a number of lists of controversial sex scenes, reviewers variously giving Mario's age as 11, 13, or 14. As the scene was filmed in 1970 and the younger Peebles was born in January, 1957, the calendar favors 13. One review puts the actress who shared the scene as in her 40s. Mario is sometimes described as being "practically forced" to perform the role. Mario has stated that the scene was not real but simulated. (needs source).

	== Actor's docudrama and homage ==		== Actor's docudrama and homage ==

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	With full nudity and simulated sex by a minor boy, ''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song'' was treated more leniently than the nearly contemporaneous ''The Genesis Children'', which had only simple nudity, and which shared at least one production person, and likely a similar budget. ''Sweetback'' had its initial "X" rating reduced to an "R" three years after release. ''Sweetback'' appears in a 2019 reference book published by the Museum of Modern Art to commemorate key works of art in its collection. <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Sweetback%27s_Baadasssss_Song Wikipedia]		With full nudity and simulated sex by a minor boy, ''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song'' was treated more leniently than the nearly contemporaneous ''The Genesis Children'', which had only simple nudity, and which shared at least one production person, and likely a similar budget. ''Sweetback'' had its initial "X" rating reduced to an "R" three years after release. ''Sweetback'' appears in a 2019 reference book published by the Museum of Modern Art to commemorate key works of art in its collection. <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Sweetback%27s_Baadasssss_Song Wikipedia]
	</ref>		</ref> It is also included in The Criterion Collection of "important classic and contemporary films."<ref name=criterion>[https://www.criterion.com/films/32000-sweet-sweetback-s-baadasssss-song The Criterion Collection] listing "Sweet Sweetback's Badass Song". The film is offered as part of a Melvin Van Peebles: Essential Films Blu-ray Box Set, or on streaming video. </ref> ''The Genesis Children'' DVD and VHS appeared as two of the top ten best-selling films at [[Insider_Video_Club\|Insider Video Club]], raided by the Postal Inspection Service.
	''The Genesis Children'' DVD and VHS appeared as two of the top ten best-selling films at [[Insider_Video_Club\|Insider Video Club]], raided by the Postal Inspection Service.

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	The film was a success financially, as one of the highest-grossing independent films of all time; politically, as Huey P. Newton devoted an entire issue of 'The Black Panther' to the film; culturally, as its success paved the way for the 1970s Blaxploitation genre; and artistically, as it has entered museum collections, and been restored and shown at festivals.		The film was a success financially, as one of the highest-grossing independent films of all time; politically, as Huey P. Newton devoted an entire issue of 'The Black Panther' to the film; culturally, as its success paved the way for the 1970s Blaxploitation genre; and artistically, as it has entered museum collections, and been restored and shown at festivals.

	The ''New York Times'' "New Movies in Town" column on May 2, 1971, which also mentioned [[Johnny Minotaur]], summarized the film as<blockquote>SWEET SWEETBACK'S BAADASSSSS SONG is film maker Melvin Van Peebles' “third and worst feature,” says Roger Greenspan. “Sweet Sweetback (played almost without dialogue by Van Peebles himself) performs in a black Southern California brothel until he is routinely picked up by the police one night and, driven by what they do to one of his brothers, he assaults a couple of cops and runs away. The subject, then, is Sweetback's flight to the border, and his adventures during flight; and at one level of artiness or another, it is almost all predictable formula material.”<ref>''New York Times'', May 2, 1971, Section D, Page 9</ref></blockquote>		The ''New York Times'' "New Movies in Town" column on May 2, 1971, which also mentioned [[Johnny Minotaur]], summarized the film as<blockquote>SWEET SWEETBACK'S BAADASSSSS SONG is film maker Melvin Van Peebles' “third and worst feature,” says Roger Greenspan. “Sweet Sweetback (played almost without dialogue by Van Peebles himself) performs in a black Southern California brothel until he is routinely picked up by the police one night and, driven by what they do to one of his brothers, he assaults a couple of cops and runs away. The subject, then, is Sweetback's flight to the border, and his adventures during flight; and at one level of artiness or another, it is almost all predictable formula material.”<ref>The New Movies in Town, ''New York Times'', May 2, 1971, Section D, Page 9</ref></blockquote>

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	Marvin Van Peebles is credited as editor, with Jeremy Hoeneck as assistant editor. Hoeneck would go on to edit ''The Genesis Children'' and three other films, however he has no editing credits after 1974 except for a 1978 film where he is also director and producer, but IMDB list 253 credits in sound through 2018.		Marvin Van Peebles is credited as editor, with Jeremy Hoeneck as assistant editor. Hoeneck would go on to edit ''The Genesis Children'' and three other films, however he has no editing credits after 1974 except for a 1978 film where he is also director and producer, but IMDB list 253 credits in sound through 2018.
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	== Success ==		== Success ==
	The film was a success financially, as one of the highest-grossing independent films of all time; politically, as Huey P. Newton devoted an entire issue of 'The Black Panther' to the film; culturally, as its success paved the way for the 1970s Blaxploitation genre; and artistically, as it has entered museum collections, and been restored and shown at festivals.		The film was a success financially, as one of the highest-grossing independent films of all time; politically, as Huey P. Newton devoted an entire issue of 'The Black Panther' to the film; culturally, as its success paved the way for the 1970s Blaxploitation genre; and artistically, as it has entered museum collections, and been restored and shown at festivals.

			The ''New York Times'' "New Movies in Town" column on May 2, 1971, which also mentioned [[Johnny Minotaur]], summarized the film as<blockquote>SWEET SWEETBACK'S BAADASSSSS SONG is film maker Melvin Van Peebles' “third and worst feature,” says Roger Greenspan. “Sweet Sweetback (played almost without dialogue by Van Peebles himself) performs in a black Southern California brothel until he is routinely picked up by the police one night and, driven by what they do to one of his brothers, he assaults a couple of cops and runs away. The subject, then, is Sweetback's flight to the border, and his adventures during flight; and at one level of artiness or another, it is almost all predictable formula material.”<ref>''New York Times'', May 2, 1971, Section D, Page 9</ref></blockquote>

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	Marvin Van Peebles is credited as editor, with Jeremy Hoeneck as assistant editor. Hoeneck would go on to edit ''The Genesis Children'' and three other films, however he has no editing credits after 1974 except for a 1978 film where he is also director and producer, but IMDB list 253 credits in sound through 2018.		Marvin Van Peebles is credited as editor, with Jeremy Hoeneck as assistant editor. Hoeneck would go on to edit ''The Genesis Children'' and three other films, however he has no editing credits after 1974 except for a 1978 film where he is also director and producer, but IMDB list 253 credits in sound through 2018.
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	With '''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song''' (1971) director Melvin Van Peebles created the "Blaxploitation" genre. The low budget was eked out by Van Peebles writing, co-producing, scoring, editing, directing and starring in the film, including performing his own stunts and sex scenes, some of which were not simulated. Van Peebles' then thirteen-year-old son Mario plays the young version of his father, including full nudity and simulated sex. Assistant editor Jeremy Hoeneck would go on to edit the 1972 ''[[The_Genesis_Children_(film)\|The Genesis Children]]''. The film was shot over 19 days, with Van Peebles presenting it as a Negro porn flick to evade union regulations. The director financed the film with his own money and a $50,000 loan from Bill Cosby, and the film went on to gross over $15 million.		With '''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song''' (1971) director Melvin Van Peebles(Aug. 21, 1932 - Sep. 21, 2021) created the "Blaxploitation" genre. The low budget was eked out by Van Peebles writing, co-producing, scoring, editing, directing and starring in the film, including performing his own stunts and sex scenes, some of which were not simulated. Van Peebles' then thirteen-year-old son Mario plays the young version of his father, including full nudity and simulated sex. Assistant editor Jeremy Hoeneck would go on to edit the 1972 ''[[The_Genesis_Children_(film)\|The Genesis Children]]''. The film was shot over 19 days, with Van Peebles presenting it as a Negro porn flick to evade union regulations. The director financed the film with his own money and a $50,000 loan from Bill Cosby, and the film went on to gross over $15 million.

	With full nudity and simulated sex by a minor boy, ''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song'' was treated more leniently than the nearly contemporaneous ''The Genesis Children'', which had only simple nudity, and which shared at least one production person, and likely a similar budget. ''Sweetback'' had its initial "X" rating reduced to an "R" three years after release. ''Sweetback'' appears in a 2019 reference book published by the Museum of Modern Art to commemorate key works of art in its collection. <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Sweetback%27s_Baadasssss_Song Wikipedia]		With full nudity and simulated sex by a minor boy, ''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song'' was treated more leniently than the nearly contemporaneous ''The Genesis Children'', which had only simple nudity, and which shared at least one production person, and likely a similar budget. ''Sweetback'' had its initial "X" rating reduced to an "R" three years after release. ''Sweetback'' appears in a 2019 reference book published by the Museum of Modern Art to commemorate key works of art in its collection. <ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Sweetback%27s_Baadasssss_Song Wikipedia]

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	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
	Without a doubt, the key Van Peebles film is his corrosive 1971 tour de force, “Sweet Sweetback’s Baadasssss Song” (screening Saturday at 7 p.m.). So abstract is “Sweet Sweetback” that all you can say for sure of the plot is that it’s about a pimp (Van Peebles) on the lam after being involved in the killing of a brutal cop. As the picture progresses, you worry less and less about keeping track of the story line (an impossible task anyway) because its incoherence, intended or otherwise, becomes so expressive of Sweetback’s predicament and induces identification with him.<ref~~>[https:~~/~~/www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-09-11-ca-320-story.html "American Cinematheque Sets Melvin Van Peebles Tribute"], ''LA Times'', Sept 11, 1992</ref~~></blockquote>		Without a doubt, the key Van Peebles film is his corrosive 1971 tour de force, “Sweet Sweetback’s Baadasssss Song” (screening Saturday at 7 p.m.). So abstract is “Sweet Sweetback” that all you can say for sure of the plot is that it’s about a pimp (Van Peebles) on the lam after being involved in the killing of a brutal cop. As the picture progresses, you worry less and less about keeping track of the story line (an impossible task anyway) because its incoherence, intended or otherwise, becomes so expressive of Sweetback’s predicament and induces identification with him.<ref name=retrospective /></blockquote>

	Marvin Van Peebles is credited as editor, with Jeremy Hoeneck as assistant editor. Hoeneck would go on to edit ''The Genesis Children'' and three other films, however he has no editing credits after 1974 except for a 1978 film where he is also director and producer, but IMDB list 253 credits in sound through 2018.		Marvin Van Peebles is credited as editor, with Jeremy Hoeneck as assistant editor. Hoeneck would go on to edit ''The Genesis Children'' and three other films, however he has no editing credits after 1974 except for a 1978 film where he is also director and producer, but IMDB list 253 credits in sound through 2018.

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	''Baadasssss!'' is an adult's perspective on his father's groundbreaking work - and on his own participation at the age of thirteen in an adult/minor sex scene in front of the cameras.		''Baadasssss!'' is an adult's perspective on his father's groundbreaking work - and on his own participation at the age of thirteen in an adult/minor sex scene in front of the cameras.

	Melvin Van Peebles cast his son in another film, the 1989 “Identity Crisis,” in which his Mario plays a rap singer who assumes the body of a middle-aged gay fashion designer.<ref>[https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-09-11-ca-320-story.html ~~L.A. Times review of a 1992~~ Melvin Van Peebles ~~retrospective~~.]</ref>		Melvin Van Peebles cast his son in another film, the 1989 “Identity Crisis,” in which his Mario plays a rap singer who assumes the body of a middle-aged gay fashion designer.<ref name=retrospective>[https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-09-11-ca-320-story.html "American Cinematheque Sets Melvin Van Peebles Tribute"], Kevin, Thomas. ''LA Times'', Sept 11, 1992</ref></blockquote>

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