Talk:Antisexuals - Revision history

User4 at 19:06, 5 March 2015

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	:::: Well fair use of media not licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License itself was not allowed when BoyWiki was originally set up in 2004. We have relaxed those restrictions somewhat since 2004 and now allow for other documentation licenses. The guidelines are not nearly as rigid as they were back then.--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		:::: Well fair use of media not licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License itself was not allowed when BoyWiki was originally set up in 2004. We have relaxed those restrictions somewhat since 2004 and now allow for other documentation licenses. The guidelines are not nearly as rigid as they were back then.--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

			:::: Hmm... a small difference. The policy is ''still' (IMHO) overly restrictive. I can explain further, but it would be better to do so off-site. [[User:User4\|User4]] ([[User talk:User4\|talk]]) 19:06, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Etenne at 18:01, 5 March 2015

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	The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
	:The situation is getting worse. More and more of these subpoenas and search warrants are being issued. It's probably best to not have a host at all, if it can be avoided, but to have one's own server, and have it set up with some kind of security that can survive the government's computer forensics. [[User:Leucosticte\|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte\|talk]]) 15:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		:The situation is getting worse. More and more of these subpoenas and search warrants are being issued. It's probably best to not have a host at all, if it can be avoided, but to have one's own server, and have it set up with some kind of security that can survive the government's computer forensics. [[User:Leucosticte\|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte\|talk]]) 15:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

			:::You have to keep in mind too that unlike you and your wikis, I don't own BoyWiki. BoyWiki is independently operated by the Wiki council as part of Free Spirits. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 18:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

	::Plus if this continues to be an issue, we could be forced to go back to the original set up were anything that is not licensed under the [[BoyWiki (en):Text of the GNU Free Documentation License\|GNU Free Documentation License]] including those that are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (Wikipedia) and the like, as well as "fair use" of "'''some'''" media would be be disallowed. I think it is better this way don't you? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::Plus if this continues to be an issue, we could be forced to go back to the original set up were anything that is not licensed under the [[BoyWiki (en):Text of the GNU Free Documentation License\|GNU Free Documentation License]] including those that are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (Wikipedia) and the like, as well as "fair use" of "'''some'''" media would be be disallowed. I think it is better this way don't you? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Etenne at 17:57, 5 March 2015

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	::: After reading "the new policy" I don't see a difference between what you call "the original set up" and what are proposed in the new [[BoyWiki:Fair_use_policy]] article. What is the difference? What would/will be allowed under the "new" policy that was not part of the "old policy"? [[User:User4\|User4]] ([[User talk:User4\|talk]]) 17:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::: After reading "the new policy" I don't see a difference between what you call "the original set up" and what are proposed in the new [[BoyWiki:Fair_use_policy]] article. What is the difference? What would/will be allowed under the "new" policy that was not part of the "old policy"? [[User:User4\|User4]] ([[User talk:User4\|talk]]) 17:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

			:::: Well fair use of media not licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License itself was not allowed when BoyWiki was originally set up in 2004. We have relaxed those restrictions somewhat since 2004 and now allow for other documentation licenses. The guidelines are not nearly as rigid as they were back then.--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 17:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

User4 at 17:45, 5 March 2015

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 There are also some antisexuals who are opposed to ''all'' sex, including that between spouses. See http://www.asexuality.org/wiki/index.php?title=Antisexual [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 12:19, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
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 :::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...
-:::: RE: Providing file names: Uh, the file names for the books I mentioned didn't just come right off the top of my head (I wish I ''were'' that smart!) but came only after an extensive search of my one-terabyte external hard drive. What I mean is, if you give feedback when I give info like this, I'll continue to do so. But if you're not interested (which is not a problem for me) ''please'' tell me so I don't waste my time, OK? It's just that most of the sources I mentioned above are relevant to the current contributions you're making here on legal issues.
+:: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.
-:::: BTW - My computer screwed up, and I couldn't use it for over 12 hours, so I didn't immediately follow up on (at least one of) your comments. I'll get back to you on your feminism comments sometime soon.
+The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
-:::: [NOTE TO SELF: Do ''not'' have over 100 tabs open in Firefox while the OCR software is loaded and proofing a scanned book and while several other books are being edited in OOO writer and while around 20 instances of Notepad are active, along with several other editors with varying capabilities, and while Acrobat reader has half a dozen ''other'' books loaded in memory, not to mention a few other things. It tends to screw up the computer...] [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 13:44, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
+::: After reading "the new policy" I don't see a difference between what you call "the original set up" and what are proposed in the new [[BoyWiki:Fair_use_policy]] article. What is the difference? What would/will be allowed under the "new" policy that was not part of the "old policy"? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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	:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...		:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...
	::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
			::::::The situation is getting worse. More and more of these subpoenas and search warrants are being issued. It's probably best to not have a host at all, if it can be avoided, but to have one's own server, and have it set up with some kind of security that can survive the government's computer forensics. [[User:Leucosticte\|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte\|talk]]) 15:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
	::Plus if this continues to be an issue, we could be forced to go back to the original set up were anything that is not licensed under the [[BoyWiki (en):Text of the GNU Free Documentation License\|GNU Free Documentation License]] including those that are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (Wikipedia) and the like, as well as "fair use" of "'''some'''" media would be be disallowed. I think it is better this way don't you? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::Plus if this continues to be an issue, we could be forced to go back to the original set up were anything that is not licensed under the [[BoyWiki (en):Text of the GNU Free Documentation License\|GNU Free Documentation License]] including those that are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (Wikipedia) and the like, as well as "fair use" of "'''some'''" media would be be disallowed. I think it is better this way don't you? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
	:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.		:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.
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	:::: [NOTE TO SELF: Do ''not'' have over 100 tabs open in Firefox while the OCR software is loaded and proofing a scanned book and while several other books are being edited in OOO writer and while around 20 instances of Notepad are active, along with several other editors with varying capabilities, and while Acrobat reader has half a dozen ''other'' books loaded in memory, not to mention a few other things. It tends to screw up the computer...] [[User:User4\|User4]] ([[User talk:User4\|talk]]) 13:44, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		:::: [NOTE TO SELF: Do ''not'' have over 100 tabs open in Firefox while the OCR software is loaded and proofing a scanned book and while several other books are being edited in OOO writer and while around 20 instances of Notepad are active, along with several other editors with varying capabilities, and while Acrobat reader has half a dozen ''other'' books loaded in memory, not to mention a few other things. It tends to screw up the computer...] [[User:User4\|User4]] ([[User talk:User4\|talk]]) 13:44, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
			:::::How many minutes did you make it before disregarding that note to self again? [[User:Leucosticte\|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte\|talk]]) 15:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Etenne at 14:40, 5 March 2015

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	:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...		:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...
	::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
	::Plus if this continues to be an issue, we could be forced to go back to the original set up were anything that is not licensed under the [[BoyWiki (en):Text of the GNU Free Documentation License\|GNU Free Documentation License]] including those that are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (Wikipedia) and the like, as well as "fair use" of media would be be disallowed. I think it is better this way don't you? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::Plus if this continues to be an issue, we could be forced to go back to the original set up were anything that is not licensed under the [[BoyWiki (en):Text of the GNU Free Documentation License\|GNU Free Documentation License]] including those that are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (Wikipedia) and the like, as well as "fair use" of "'''some'''" media would be be disallowed. I think it is better this way don't you? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
	:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.		:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.

Etenne at 14:17, 5 March 2015

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	:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...		:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...
	::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
			::Plus if this continues to be an issue, we could be forced to go back to the original set up were anything that is not licensed under the [[BoyWiki (en):Text of the GNU Free Documentation License\|GNU Free Documentation License]] including those that are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (Wikipedia) and the like, as well as "fair use" of media would be be disallowed. I think it is better this way don't you? --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
	:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.		:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.

Etenne at 13:58, 5 March 2015

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	:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...		:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...
	::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful even if everything is 100 percent aboveboard not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful, even though everything is 100 percent aboveboard, not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

	:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.		:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.

Etenne at 13:57, 5 March 2015

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	:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...		:::: RE: Torrents. Yes - the super-rich (and yet still money-hungry) interests in the music and film distribution industries have made '''''such a big stink''''' about downloading, downloaders, etc. (which includes a great deal of ''mis''information, as well) that people have developed a knee-jerk reaction when they hear the word "torrent". Our wikimaster seems to be suffering from that, as well. Gee, kind a reminds me of how John. Q. Public reacts to the words "pedophile" and "sex offender". Funny, that...
			::::: The wiki Council and the curators have to ensure that we do not give law enforcement cause to get a warrant to seize our server or harass our host. We have to be extra, extra careful even if everything is 100 percent aboveboard not to even present the possibility of impropriety. So yes, we are going to err on the safe side. I am sorry but that is simply the reality of the world we live in. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

	:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.		:::: RE: The religious group: Yes, I ''was'' thinking of the Shakers, but I wasn't absolutely certain (for fault of googling) so I didn't put the name.

User4 at 13:46, 5 March 2015

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	:::: BTW - My computer screwed up, and I couldn't use it for over 12 hours, so I didn't immediately follow up on (at least one of) your comments. I'll get back to you on your feminism comments sometime soon.		:::: BTW - My computer screwed up, and I couldn't use it for over 12 hours, so I didn't immediately follow up on (at least one of) your comments. I'll get back to you on your feminism comments sometime soon.

	:::: [NOTE TO SELF: Do ''not'' have over 100 tabs open in Firefox while the OCR software is loaded and proofing a scanned book and while several other books are being edited in OOO writer and while around 20 instances of Notepad are active, along with several other editors with varying capabilities, and while Acrobat reader has half a dozen ''other'' books loaded in memory, not to mention ~~and~~ a few other things. It tends to screw up the computer...] [[User:User4\|User4]] ([[User talk:User4\|talk]]) 13:44, 5 March 2015 (UTC)		:::: [NOTE TO SELF: Do ''not'' have over 100 tabs open in Firefox while the OCR software is loaded and proofing a scanned book and while several other books are being edited in OOO writer and while around 20 instances of Notepad are active, along with several other editors with varying capabilities, and while Acrobat reader has half a dozen ''other'' books loaded in memory, not to mention a few other things. It tends to screw up the computer...] [[User:User4\|User4]] ([[User talk:User4\|talk]]) 13:44, 5 March 2015 (UTC)