Talk:Argumentation:Child pornography - Revision history

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	:::On Wikipedia, there's no choice but to [[wikipedia:Project:Beef up that first revision\|beef up that first revision]] because otherwise they'll speedily delete pages (usually based on some expansive interpretation of the speedy deletion criteria). Here, you mostly express concerns and say "maybe I'll delete that later". In practice, I think if a page gets a lot of views, it will also tend to get a lot of edits if it's in need of improvement, so the problem fixes itself. It tends to be the better-written pages that people link to a lot and that therefore get a higher pagerank on Google. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 17:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)		:::On Wikipedia, there's no choice but to [[wikipedia:Project:Beef up that first revision\|beef up that first revision]] because otherwise they'll speedily delete pages (usually based on some expansive interpretation of the speedy deletion criteria). Here, you mostly express concerns and say "maybe I'll delete that later". In practice, I think if a page gets a lot of views, it will also tend to get a lot of edits if it's in need of improvement, so the problem fixes itself. It tends to be the better-written pages that people link to a lot and that therefore get a higher pagerank on Google. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 17:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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			#Patent nonsense--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 14:23, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Lysander at 17:51, 5 December 2015

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	:::It depends on whether the pages actually are going to grow or whether they'll stay stubs forever. It's the old [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eventualism eventualism] vs. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Immediatism immediatism] debate. Or the [[wikipedia:Project:Don't demolish the house while it's still being built\|Don't demolish the house while it's still being built]] vs. [[wikipedia:Project:An unfinished house is a real problem\|An unfinished house is a real problem]] debate. (By the way, the fable the latter uses as an illustration is retarded. "gelatin mixed with kindergarten paste"? What the fuck?		:::It depends on whether the pages actually are going to grow or whether they'll stay stubs forever. It's the old [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eventualism eventualism] vs. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Immediatism immediatism] debate. Or the [[wikipedia:Project:Don't demolish the house while it's still being built\|Don't demolish the house while it's still being built]] vs. [[wikipedia:Project:An unfinished house is a real problem\|An unfinished house is a real problem]] debate. (By the way, the fable the latter uses as an illustration is retarded. "gelatin mixed with kindergarten paste"? What the fuck?
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	:::On Wikipedia, there's no choice but to [[wikipedia:Project:Beef up that first revision\|beef up that first revision]] because otherwise they'll speedily delete pages (usually based on some expansive interpretation of the speedy deletion criteria). Here, you mostly express concerns and say "maybe I'll delete that later". In practice, I think if a page gets a lot of views, it will also tend to get a lot of edits if it's in need of improvement, so the problem fixes itself. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 17:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)		:::On Wikipedia, there's no choice but to [[wikipedia:Project:Beef up that first revision\|beef up that first revision]] because otherwise they'll speedily delete pages (usually based on some expansive interpretation of the speedy deletion criteria). Here, you mostly express concerns and say "maybe I'll delete that later". In practice, I think if a page gets a lot of views, it will also tend to get a lot of edits if it's in need of improvement, so the problem fixes itself. It tends to be the better-written pages that people link to a lot and that therefore get a higher pagerank on Google. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 17:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Lysander at 17:48, 5 December 2015

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	::Yeah, if I understand you correctly that's cool. My thought was more along the lines that people doing searches on search engines would not be likely to find that information if it is not better connected to the main topic. People are unlikely to hit those pages based on how they are named. The title names are too obscure. Also, a thing to keep in mind (for all of us including me) is if there is really enough info on each of these sub-topics to justify them having there own page or could they be incorporated into the main page as a sub-topic or even as a reference. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:09, 5 December 2015 (UTC)		::Yeah, if I understand you correctly that's cool. My thought was more along the lines that people doing searches on search engines would not be likely to find that information if it is not better connected to the main topic. People are unlikely to hit those pages based on how they are named. The title names are too obscure. Also, a thing to keep in mind (for all of us including me) is if there is really enough info on each of these sub-topics to justify them having there own page or could they be incorporated into the main page as a sub-topic or even as a reference. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:09, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
			:::It depends on whether the pages actually are going to grow or whether they'll stay stubs forever. It's the old [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eventualism eventualism] vs. [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Immediatism immediatism] debate. Or the [[wikipedia:Project:Don't demolish the house while it's still being built\|Don't demolish the house while it's still being built]] vs. [[wikipedia:Project:An unfinished house is a real problem\|An unfinished house is a real problem]] debate. (By the way, the fable the latter uses as an illustration is retarded. "gelatin mixed with kindergarten paste"? What the fuck?
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			:::On Wikipedia, there's no choice but to [[wikipedia:Project:Beef up that first revision\|beef up that first revision]] because otherwise they'll speedily delete pages (usually based on some expansive interpretation of the speedy deletion criteria). Here, you mostly express concerns and say "maybe I'll delete that later". In practice, I think if a page gets a lot of views, it will also tend to get a lot of edits if it's in need of improvement, so the problem fixes itself. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 17:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Etenne at 13:09, 5 December 2015

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	Well, I had in mind that "argumentation" pages would present information in more of a FAQ-style format. Kind of like how portals present the same info our articles do, except in a different format. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 15:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)		:Well, I had in mind that "argumentation" pages would present information in more of a FAQ-style format. Kind of like how portals present the same info our articles do, except in a different format. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 15:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

			::Yeah, if I understand you correctly that's cool. My thought was more along the lines that people doing searches on search engines would not be likely to find that information if it is not better connected to the main topic. People are unlikely to hit those pages based on how they are named. The title names are too obscure. Also, a thing to keep in mind (for all of us including me) is if there is really enough info on each of these sub-topics to justify them having there own page or could they be incorporated into the main page as a sub-topic or even as a reference. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:09, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Etenne at 02:51, 5 December 2015

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	*[[Child pornography production as a motive for child abuse]]		*[[Child pornography production as a motive for child abuse]]
	*[[Child themed pornography]]		*[[Child themed pornography]]
	~~{{unsigned~~\|Etenne}}		--[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 02:51, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

	Well, I had in mind that "argumentation" pages would present information in more of a FAQ-style format. Kind of like how portals present the same info our articles do, except in a different format. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 15:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)		Well, I had in mind that "argumentation" pages would present information in more of a FAQ-style format. Kind of like how portals present the same info our articles do, except in a different format. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 15:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Lysander at 15:16, 4 December 2015

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			Well, I had in mind that "argumentation" pages would present information in more of a FAQ-style format. Kind of like how portals present the same info our articles do, except in a different format. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 15:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Etenne at 10:46, 4 December 2015

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	It seems that this page and all of these pages listed below are subtopics and should be combined into one main entry on Child pornography.		It seems that this page and all of these pages listed below are subtopics and should be combined into one main entry on [[Child pornography]].

	*[[Child pornography as a wedge issue for attacking other freedoms]]		*[[Child pornography as a wedge issue for attacking other freedoms]]

Etenne at 10:45, 4 December 2015

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	It seems that this page and all of these pages listed below are subtopics and should be combined into one main entry.		It seems that this page and all of these pages listed below are subtopics and should be combined into one main entry on Child pornography.

	*[[Child pornography as a wedge issue for attacking other freedoms]]		*[[Child pornography as a wedge issue for attacking other freedoms]]

Etenne: Created page with "It seems that this page and all of these pages listed below are subtopics and should be combined into one main entry. *Child pornography as a wedge issue for attacking othe..."

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Created page with "It seems that this page and all of these pages listed below are subtopics and should be combined into one main entry. *Child pornography as a wedge issue for attacking othe..."

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It seems that this page and all of these pages listed below are subtopics and should be combined into one main entry.

*[[Child pornography as a wedge issue for attacking other freedoms]]
*[[Child pornography distribution as a motive for child pornography production]]
*[[Child pornography production as a motive for child abuse]]
*[[Child themed pornography]]

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	Well, I had in mind that "argumentation" pages would present information in more of a FAQ-style format. Kind of like how portals present the same info our articles do, except in a different format. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 15:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)		:Well, I had in mind that "argumentation" pages would present information in more of a FAQ-style format. Kind of like how portals present the same info our articles do, except in a different format. [[User:Lysander\|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander\|talk]]) 15:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

			::Yeah, if I understand you correctly that's cool. My thought was more along the lines that people doing searches on search engines would not be likely to find that information if it is not better connected to the main topic. People are unlikely to hit those pages based on how they are named. The title names are too obscure. Also, a thing to keep in mind (for all of us including me) is if there is really enough info on each of these sub-topics to justify them having there own page or could they be incorporated into the main page as a sub-topic or even as a reference. --[[User:Etenne\|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne\|talk]]) 13:09, 5 December 2015 (UTC)