Talk:Sexually explicit - Revision history

https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ASexually_explicit Talk:Sexually explicit - Revision history 2026-05-04T14:22:07Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33762&oldid=prev User4 at 17:55, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T17:55:27Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:55, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l25">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Well that is one way to go but it is my opinion that 80 percent of the readers will one be lost and therefore disengage after the first sentence.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Well that is one way to go but it is my opinion that 80 percent of the readers will one be lost and therefore disengage after the first sentence.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::Could that be because 80% of BoyLovers have been thoroughly (and very successfully!) '''''brainwashed''''' by those espousing the [[Pedophile narrative|pedophile narrative]]? And that, though there is the risk of alienating those BoyLovers by challenging their preconceptions (read: their indoctrination with the myths about BoyLove) that doing so is ''essential'' for their achieving "liberation" from their oppressive Masters (read:those in control of the child-abuse industry)? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::Could that be because 80% of BoyLovers have been thoroughly (and very successfully!) '''''brainwashed''''' by those espousing the [[Pedophile narrative|pedophile narrative]]? And that, though there is the risk of alienating those BoyLovers by challenging their preconceptions (read: their indoctrination with the myths about BoyLove) that doing so is ''essential'' for their achieving "liberation" from their oppressive Masters (read:those in control of the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Child abuse industry|</ins>child-abuse industry)<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

User4 https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33761&oldid=prev User4 at 17:54, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T17:54:20Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:54, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l25">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Well that is one way to go but it is my opinion that 80 percent of the readers will one be lost and therefore disengage after the first sentence.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Well that is one way to go but it is my opinion that 80 percent of the readers will one be lost and therefore disengage after the first sentence.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::Could that be because 80% of BoyLovers have been thoroughly (and very successfully!) '''''brainwashed''''' by those espousing the [[pedophile narrative]]? And that, though there is the risk of alienating those BoyLovers by challenging their preconceptions (read: their indoctrination with the myths about BoyLove) that doing so is ''essential'' for their achieving "liberation" from their oppressive Masters (read:those in control of the child-abuse industry)? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::::Could that be because 80% of BoyLovers have been thoroughly (and very successfully!) '''''brainwashed''''' by those espousing the [[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pedophile narrative|</ins>pedophile narrative]]? And that, though there is the risk of alienating those BoyLovers by challenging their preconceptions (read: their indoctrination with the myths about BoyLove) that doing so is ''essential'' for their achieving "liberation" from their oppressive Masters (read:those in control of the child-abuse industry)? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

User4 https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33758&oldid=prev User4 at 17:49, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T17:49:34Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:49, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l24">Line 24:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::OT: It's time for lunch. I've got to go shopping. Be back later. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::OT: It's time for lunch. I've got to go shopping. Be back later. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Well that is one way to go but it is my opinion that 80 percent of the readers will one be lost and therefore disengage after the first sentence.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::::Well that is one way to go but it is my opinion that 80 percent of the readers will one be lost and therefore disengage after the first sentence.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::::Could that be because 80% of BoyLovers have been thoroughly (and very successfully!) '''''brainwashed''''' by those espousing the [[pedophile narrative]]? And that, though there is the risk of alienating those BoyLovers by challenging their preconceptions (read: their indoctrination with the myths about BoyLove) that doing so is ''essential'' for their achieving "liberation" from their oppressive Masters (read:those in control of the child-abuse industry)? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:49, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

User4 https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33756&oldid=prev Etenne at 17:34, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T17:34:10Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:34, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l23">Line 23:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 23:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::OT: It's time for lunch. I've got to go shopping. Be back later. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::OT: It's time for lunch. I've got to go shopping. Be back later. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::::Well that is one way to go but it is my opinion that 80 percent of the readers will one be lost and therefore disengage after the first sentence.--[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:34, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Etenne https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33755&oldid=prev User4 at 17:15, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T17:15:35Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:15, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Actually, I'd phrase that a little differently. I would say that, based on what has already been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'', that intergenerational (or age-disparate) relationships--though they may ''sometimes'' be abusive--''generally speaking'', ''most'' of the time, ''usually do not'' involve any ''real'' "abuse". Of course, I would be using the "classical" definition of "abuse" (the historical one) rather than the "modern" definition (which is so broad as to essentially be meaningless). [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Actually, I'd phrase that a little differently. I would say that, based on what has already been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'', that intergenerational (or age-disparate) relationships--though they may ''sometimes'' be abusive--''generally speaking'', ''most'' of the time, ''usually do not'' involve any ''real'' "abuse". Of course, I would be using the "classical" definition of "abuse" (the historical one) rather than the "modern" definition (which is so broad as to essentially be meaningless). [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::OT: It's time for lunch. I've got to go shopping. Be back later. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:15, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

User4 https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33754&oldid=prev User4 at 17:11, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T17:11:15Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:11, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::That which has been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'' DOES NOT support the hypothesis that astrology (and other pseudosciences) are genuine phenomenon. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::That which has been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'' DOES NOT support the hypothesis that astrology (and other pseudosciences) are genuine phenomenon. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Another way of looking at is that our interpretation of the facts better represents the reality then theirs. Facts are indisputable, however how you describe those facts are not. For example, someone might describe a 12 and 14 YO boy engaged in a sexual relationship as the 14 yo abusing the 12 yo.. where you might describe them as two boys in love... they only "fact" here is the boys have a relationship. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Another way of looking at is that our interpretation of the facts better represents the reality then theirs. Facts are indisputable, however how you describe those facts are not. For example, someone might describe a 12 and 14 YO boy engaged in a sexual relationship as the 14 yo abusing the 12 yo.. where you might describe them as two boys in love... they only "fact" here is the boys have a relationship. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Actually, I'd phrase that a little differently. I would say that, based on what has already been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'', that intergenerational (or age-disparate) relationships--though they may ''sometimes'' be abusive--''generally speaking'', ''most'' of the time, ''usually do not'' involve any ''real'' "abuse". Of course, I would be using the "classical" definition of "abuse" (the historical one) rather than the "modern" definition (which is so broad as to essentially be meaningless). [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

User4 https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33753&oldid=prev Etenne at 17:03, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T17:03:27Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:03, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::That which has been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'' DOES NOT support the hypothesis that astrology (and other pseudosciences) are genuine phenomenon. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::That which has been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'' DOES NOT support the hypothesis that astrology (and other pseudosciences) are genuine phenomenon. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Another way of looking at is that our interpretation of the facts better represents the reality then theirs. Facts are indisputable, however how you describe those facts are not. For example, someone might describe a 12 and 14 YO boy engaged in a sexual relationship as the 14 yo abusing the 12 yo.. where you might describe them as two boys in love... they only "fact" here is the boys have a relationship. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 17:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Etenne https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33752&oldid=prev User4 at 16:52, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T16:52:31Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:52, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't the above be a huge ''disservice'' to the public by ''furthering the myths'' of the (in fact, false) efficacy of astrology and tea-leaf reading? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't the above be a huge ''disservice'' to the public by ''furthering the myths'' of the (in fact, false) efficacy of astrology and tea-leaf reading? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: No because you could find an authoritative reference to support that position. that it is not simply '''your''' opinion but it is supported by the facts. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 16:22, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: No because you could find an authoritative reference to support that position. that it is not simply '''your''' opinion but it is supported by the facts. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 16:22, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::You can find "an authoritative reference" to support ''anything at all''. "The facts" are those things which may be ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods''.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::That which has been ''empirically established'' using ''valid scientific methods'' DOES NOT support the hypothesis that astrology (and other pseudosciences) are genuine phenomenon. [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

User4 https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33744&oldid=prev Etenne at 16:22, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T16:22:17Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:22, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't the above be a huge ''disservice'' to the public by ''furthering the myths'' of the (in fact, false) efficacy of astrology and tea-leaf reading? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't the above be a huge ''disservice'' to the public by ''furthering the myths'' of the (in fact, false) efficacy of astrology and tea-leaf reading? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::: No because you could find an authoritative reference to support that position. that it is not simply '''your''' opinion but it is supported by the facts. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 16:22, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Etenne https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Talk:Sexually_explicit&diff=33743&oldid=prev User4 at 16:19, 7 April 2016 2016-04-07T16:19:47Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:19, 7 April 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I am not sure what you are asking. I looked at it and I was still not able to see a formatting problem. However my comment is that this is not a definition as much as it is an explanation and it is not written in a way that is anything close resembling a neutral POV. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 16:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: I am not sure what you are asking. I looked at it and I was still not able to see a formatting problem. However my comment is that this is not a definition as much as it is an explanation and it is not written in a way that is anything close resembling a neutral POV. --[[Etenne]] [[File:BLSmileyface.png|50 px|link=Etenne]] 16:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't a (so-called) "neutral" POV in an article about the (pseudoscience) of astrology require that astrology ''not'' be referred to as a pseudoscience? </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The "bolding" thing disappeared. Strange. Must be a software bug.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::As for a "neutral POV", </ins>Wouldn't a (so-called) "neutral" POV in an article about the (pseudoscience) of astrology require that astrology ''not'' be referred to as a pseudoscience? </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't a (so-called) "neutral" POV in an article about the (pseudoscience) of divining through reading tea leaves require that divining through reading tea leaves ''not'' be referred to as a pseudoscience?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't a (so-called) "neutral" POV in an article about the (pseudoscience) of divining through reading tea leaves require that divining through reading tea leaves ''not'' be referred to as a pseudoscience?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't the above be a huge ''disservice'' to the public by ''furthering the myths'' of the (in fact, false) efficacy of astrology and tea-leaf reading? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Wouldn't the above be a huge ''disservice'' to the public by ''furthering the myths'' of the (in fact, false) efficacy of astrology and tea-leaf reading? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 16:17, 7 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

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