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User4: /* BoyChat post about The Trauma Myth by Susan Clancy */

2016-03-26T05:28:13Z

BoyChat post about The Trauma Myth by Susan Clancy

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	Consensual, non-violent/not overtly coercive sexual activity involving adults and minors, contrary to popular belief, does NOT normally cause trauma to young people - even when engaged it at a very early age. Susan Clancy demonstrates this through her research, but fails to reach this (obvious) conclusion in her text.		Consensual, non-violent/not overtly coercive sexual activity involving adults and minors, contrary to popular belief, does NOT normally cause trauma to young people - even when engaged it at a very early age. Susan Clancy demonstrates this through her research, but fails to reach this (obvious) conclusion in her text.

	Susan Clancy, in a nutshell, describes her theories on why sexual abuse is not seen as such by victims until the therapist has "reconceptualized" fully for the victim how the victims truly were abused and how their trust had been violated, even though the victims originally deny having felt that they had actually been abused.		Susan Clancy, in a nutshell, describes her theories on why sexual abuse is not seen as such by victims until the therapist has [[Reconceptualization\|"reconceptualized"]] fully for the victim how the victims truly were abused and how their trust had been violated, even though the victims originally deny having felt that they had actually been abused.

	The Trauma Of Child Sexual Abuse? Sorry Folks, But It Is A ''Myth!''		The Trauma Of Child Sexual Abuse? Sorry Folks, But It Is A ''Myth!''

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	When "victims" of "sexual abuse" are originally "abused" (in non-violent cases) they feel neutral or positive about the events. They feel no guilt or shame - they are unaware that they have been "abused". When do they actually find out that they <em>have</em> been abused?		When "victims" of "sexual abuse" are originally "abused" (in non-violent cases) they feel neutral or positive about the events. They feel no guilt or shame - they are unaware that they have been "abused". When do they actually find out that they <em>have</em> been abused?

	When the events are "reconceptualized" within the minds of the "victims", with the help of the "therapist". Only <em>then</em> do they feel the shame and guilt, followed by anger at the so-called "perpetrator" that the therapist feels they <em>should</em> feel.		When the events are [[Reconceptualization\|"reconceptualized"]] within the minds of the "victims", with the help of the "therapist". Only <em>then</em> do they feel the shame and guilt, followed by anger at the so-called "perpetrator" that the therapist feels they <em>should</em> feel.

	It seems that Susan Clancy is unfamiliar with the concept of <em>[[Iatrogenesis\|disorders of iatrogenic origin]]</em>. She treated so-called "victims" of so-called "sexual abuse" (by her own definition, of course).		It seems that Susan Clancy is unfamiliar with the concept of <em>[[Iatrogenesis\|disorders of iatrogenic origin]]</em>. She treated so-called "victims" of so-called "sexual abuse" (by her own definition, of course).

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Ray Harris

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	===Ray Harris===		===Ray Harris===
	Ray notes that many victims are not ~~heared~~ <EM>because</EM> their story does not fit with the generally accepted <STRONG>trauma model</STRONG> of, among others, David Finkelhor. He notes that Clancy indeed does listen to the victims, but that she also gives a <EM>moral judgement</EM>. "Always, always listen to the victim. If they tell you they thought it was wrong, but liked it and went along with it, then accept what they say and validate their experience. Whatever you do, don’t become morally outraged on their behalf because then they might to begin to doubt themselves and enter the spiral of negative thoughts that are the real cause of stress. [...] Dare I suggest that more harm, more trauma has been caused by the self-appointed moral protectors than by the the actual abuse itself."		Ray notes that many victims are not heard <EM>because</EM> their story does not fit with the generally accepted <STRONG>trauma model</STRONG> of, among others, David Finkelhor. He notes that Clancy indeed does listen to the victims, but that she also gives a <EM>moral judgement</EM>. "Always, always listen to the victim. If they tell you they thought it was wrong, but liked it and went along with it, then accept what they say and validate their experience. Whatever you do, don’t become morally outraged on their behalf because then they might to begin to doubt themselves and enter the spiral of negative thoughts that are the real cause of stress. [...] Dare I suggest that more harm, more trauma has been caused by the self-appointed moral protectors than by the the actual abuse itself."

	Link to continue reading: http://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/trauma-myth-susan-clancy-book-review-ray-harris The Trauma Myth by Susan Clancy (book review and commentary by Ray Harris)]		Link to continue reading: http://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/trauma-myth-susan-clancy-book-review-ray-harris The Trauma Myth by Susan Clancy (book review and commentary by Ray Harris)]

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	:Drawing on the latest research on memory and traumatic experience, Susan Clancy, an expert in experimental psychopathology, demonstrates that children describe abuse and molestation encounters in ways that don't fit the conventional trauma model. In fact, the most common feeling reported is not fear but confusion.		:Drawing on the latest research on memory and traumatic experience, Susan Clancy, an expert in experimental psychopathology, demonstrates that children describe abuse and molestation encounters in ways that don't fit the conventional trauma model. In fact, the most common feeling reported is not fear but confusion.

	:Clancy calls for an honest look at [[sexual abuse]] and its aftermath, and argues that the reactions of society and the healing professions-however well meaning-actually shackle the victims of abuse in chains of guilt, secrecy, and shame. Pathbreaking and controversial, The Trauma Myth radically reshapes our understanding of sexual abuse and its consequences.		:Clancy calls for an honest look at [[sexual abuse]] and its aftermath, and argues that the reactions of society and the healing professions-however well meaning-actually shackle the victims of abuse in chains of guilt, [[secrecy]], and shame. Pathbreaking and controversial, The Trauma Myth radically reshapes our understanding of sexual abuse and its consequences.
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User4: Susan Clancy's admission about feminists having lied about child sexual abuse

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Susan Clancy's admission about feminists having lied about child sexual abuse

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	Link to continue reading:[http://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/trauma-myth-understanding-true-dynamic The Trauma Myth: Understanding the True Dynamics of Sexual Abuse, Jun 03 2010]		Link to continue reading:[http://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/trauma-myth-understanding-true-dynamic The Trauma Myth: Understanding the True Dynamics of Sexual Abuse, Jun 03 2010]

			==Susan Clancy's admission about feminists having lied about child sexual abuse==
			Susan Clancy has stated the following in an interview on the progressive news site Salon.com:

			:"'In the 1950s and 1960s, psychiatrists were very open and honest about sexual abuse, but there was also that tendency to think it was the child's fault. Feminists were naturally infuriated, because it's not the children's fault! But the way they got attention to it was to portray the sexual abuse in a way that would shock people. They did that by comparing it to a rape. Before that, the reaction from the medical and psych communities was, 'This is not something we really care about.' It wasn't until feminists and child-protection advocates misportrayed it that we were able to arouse massive medical and scientific attention to the topic.'
			:Source:http://www.salon.com/books/int/2010/01/18/trauma_myth_interview/index.html

	==The Trauma Myth - Susan Clancy - The Book==		==The Trauma Myth - Susan Clancy - The Book==

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	'''Susan Clancy''' is author of ''The Trauma Myth: The Truth About the Sexual Abuse of Children -- and Its Aftermath'', a book that argues that sexually abused children usually experience confusion rather than fear.		'''Susan Clancy''' is author of ''The Trauma Myth: The Truth About the Sexual Abuse of Children -- and Its Aftermath'', a book that argues that sexually abused children usually experience confusion rather than fear.

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2015-03-27T20:13:23Z

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