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		<title>Lysander at 00:06, 3 April 2015</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The framework within with adult-child sex could take place need not be one in which children have freedom of choice, though. Already, children lack freedom of choice with regard to what chores they&amp;#039;ll be forced to do, or what time they&amp;#039;ll go to bed. Their parents or guardians are given the responsibility of making those decisions for them. Why would it be such a radical proposal to also have parents of guardians make sexual decisions for the children under their care?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The framework within with adult-child sex could take place need not be one in which children have freedom of choice, though. Already, children lack freedom of choice with regard to what chores they&amp;#039;ll be forced to do, or what time they&amp;#039;ll go to bed. Their parents or guardians are given the responsibility of making those decisions for them. Why would it be such a radical proposal to also have parents of guardians make sexual decisions for the children under their care?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Parents are even allowed to make decisions for their children that some might regard as permanently harmful, such as [[circumcision]] or [[spanking]]. They can choose their children&#039;s education, subject to a few regulations established by the state. They can choose what church, if any, their child goes to. They can choose what filters will be placed on their child&#039;s Internet browser, or ban their child from the Internet altogether. They can search their child&#039;s room and person at any time. They can forbid their child from associating with whatever other people they consider a bad influence on their child. Etc., etc. So what is the big deal about also choosing with whom their child shall have sex?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Parents are even allowed to make decisions for their children that some might regard as permanently harmful, such as [[circumcision]] or [[spanking]]. They can choose their children&#039;s education, subject to a few regulations established by the state. They can choose what church, if any, their child goes to. They can choose what filters will be placed on their child&#039;s Internet browser, or ban their child from the Internet altogether. They can search their child&#039;s room and person at any time. They can forbid their child from associating with whatever other people they consider a bad influence on their child&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. They can tell their child &quot;give me a hug&quot; or &quot;give me a kiss&quot; and basically demand affection&lt;/ins&gt;. Etc., etc. So what is the big deal about also choosing with whom their child shall have sex&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, especially once this has become socially accepted and normalized&lt;/ins&gt;?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Lysander at 00:05, 3 April 2015</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{cquote|Youth rights and participation must be an integral part of our eventual activism (without a broader movement to fall back on, we are doomed), and we must seek to challenge pre-existing belief systems and power structures as well as taking advantage of them! And whilst labelling may be of use at a personal, and consensual group level, attempts to label a whole movement with terms such as &amp;quot;sex offender&amp;quot; (implying only legal persecution) or &amp;quot;child love&amp;quot; (implying only pedophilia/older partner status, and most problematically, exclusive adulthood) need to be dismissed at this early, formative stage. It doesn&amp;#039;t take long to find individuals working for our cause who conform to no such label. Political libertarians and dissidents of various forms. Adults who as youngsters, experienced a physical relationship in terms that our culture does not allow them to express! Lets encourage such people, because without them, we are weaker and far easier to dismiss!}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{cquote|Youth rights and participation must be an integral part of our eventual activism (without a broader movement to fall back on, we are doomed), and we must seek to challenge pre-existing belief systems and power structures as well as taking advantage of them! And whilst labelling may be of use at a personal, and consensual group level, attempts to label a whole movement with terms such as &amp;quot;sex offender&amp;quot; (implying only legal persecution) or &amp;quot;child love&amp;quot; (implying only pedophilia/older partner status, and most problematically, exclusive adulthood) need to be dismissed at this early, formative stage. It doesn&amp;#039;t take long to find individuals working for our cause who conform to no such label. Political libertarians and dissidents of various forms. Adults who as youngsters, experienced a physical relationship in terms that our culture does not allow them to express! Lets encourage such people, because without them, we are weaker and far easier to dismiss!}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Lysander: Created page with &quot;{{cquote|Youth rights and participation must be an integral part of our eventual activism (without a broader movement to fall back on, we are doomed), and we must seek to chal...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{cquote|Youth rights and participation must be an integral part of our eventual activism (without a broader movement to fall back on, we are doomed), and we must seek to chal...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{cquote|Youth rights and participation must be an integral part of our eventual activism (without a broader movement to fall back on, we are doomed), and we must seek to challenge pre-existing belief systems and power structures as well as taking advantage of them! And whilst labelling may be of use at a personal, and consensual group level, attempts to label a whole movement with terms such as &amp;quot;sex offender&amp;quot; (implying only legal persecution) or &amp;quot;child love&amp;quot; (implying only pedophilia/older partner status, and most problematically, exclusive adulthood) need to be dismissed at this early, formative stage. It doesn&amp;#039;t take long to find individuals working for our cause who conform to no such label. Political libertarians and dissidents of various forms. Adults who as youngsters, experienced a physical relationship in terms that our culture does not allow them to express! Lets encourage such people, because without them, we are weaker and far easier to dismiss!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we really need to be part of a larger youth rights movement, in order to succeed? Children currently have very few rights, but they are allowed to have sex with each other. Why would it be a big deal to expand that autonomy to allow them to have sex with adults as well?&lt;br /&gt;
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The framework within with adult-child sex could take place need not be one in which children have freedom of choice, though. Already, children lack freedom of choice with regard to what chores they&amp;#039;ll be forced to do, or what time they&amp;#039;ll go to bed. Their parents or guardians are given the responsibility of making those decisions for them. Why would it be such a radical proposal to also have parents of guardians make sexual decisions for the children under their care?&lt;br /&gt;
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Parents are even allowed to make decisions for their children that some might regard as permanently harmful, such as [[circumcision]] or [[spanking]]. They can choose their children&amp;#039;s education, subject to a few regulations established by the state. They can choose what church, if any, their child goes to. They can choose what filters will be placed on their child&amp;#039;s Internet browser, or ban their child from the Internet altogether. They can search their child&amp;#039;s room and person at any time. They can forbid their child from associating with whatever other people they consider a bad influence on their child. Etc., etc. So what is the big deal about also choosing with whom their child shall have sex?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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