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		<title>User4: NO LONGER NEEDED</title>
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		<updated>2016-04-12T18:17:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;NO LONGER NEEDED&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>User4 at 18:12, 12 April 2016</title>
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		<updated>2016-04-12T18:12:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>User4: Created page with &quot; Children (minors under the &quot;legal age&quot; of consent) cannot give &#039;&#039;informed consent&#039;&#039; to engage in sexual activity with an adult until they understand &#039;&#039;the complete consequenc...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2016-04-12T17:19:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot; Children (minors under the &amp;quot;legal age&amp;quot; of consent) cannot give &amp;#039;&amp;#039;informed consent&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to engage in sexual activity with an adult until they understand &amp;#039;&amp;#039;the complete consequenc...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Children (minors under the &amp;quot;legal age&amp;quot; of consent) cannot give &amp;#039;&amp;#039;informed consent&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to engage in sexual activity with an adult until they understand &amp;#039;&amp;#039;the complete consequences&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Below is an outline of a situation which would require advisories necessary so that a child &amp;#039;&amp;#039;can&amp;#039;&amp;#039; give &amp;#039;&amp;#039;fully informed&amp;#039;&amp;#039; consent. It is given as a dialogue between an adult male BoyLover, and an eleven-year-old boy who is his &amp;quot;young friend&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Well, Billy, wrestling on the floor with our shirts off was really fun, wasn&amp;#039;t it!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Sure was!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Heh, I&amp;#039;ve got an idea. How about trying &amp;#039;&amp;#039;something else&amp;#039;&amp;#039; that is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;really fun&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, too?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Sure. What are ya thinking of?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Well, it involves &amp;#039;&amp;#039;another&amp;#039;&amp;#039; kind of touching. It&amp;#039;s where you lie down, and I touch you in some special ways. Want to try it?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It won&amp;#039;t hurt, will it?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;No--of course not! I wouldn&amp;#039;t do anything that would hurt you!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Then, OK--let&amp;#039;s do it!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Fine. But there are a few things I have to advise you (that means tell you) of, first, before you say &amp;quot;Yes&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;OK--shoot!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Well, I am going to begin by touching your arms, your shoulders, and your chest.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If you do not object, I will then touch your stomach&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you still do not object, then I will touch you a bit lower&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if I touch you a bit lower, and you still do not object, I will touch your genitals (that means your dick and balls)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if I touch your dick, you will almost definitely get an erection (that means your dick will get hard)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if your dick gets hard when I touch it, then you will have very strong pleasurable feelings&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you still do not object, and I continue to touch your dick, you may then have an orgasm (that means you&amp;#039;ll have a really really really strong and pleasurable feeling, maybe one you have never had before, but that I promise you, you will really really enjoy it!)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you do have an orgasm, you may question your sexual identity&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you do question your sexual identity, you may require reassurance from me (or others) that you &amp;#039;&amp;#039;will not&amp;#039;&amp;#039; become homosexual from being touched and then orgasming that way&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If your mother finds out that I touched your dick, she may become angry and not allow you to see me any more&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;she may make a report to the police that I touched your dick&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if she makes a report to the police, the police will become angry, and will want to talk to you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if the police want to talk to you, you can agree to talk to them, or not agree to talk to them&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you agree to talk to them, then anything you tell them about me touching your dick will make them ask &amp;#039;&amp;#039;ever more&amp;#039;&amp;#039; questions&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;the police will then say that I am a &amp;quot;monster&amp;quot; and that I have to be stopped from ever touching another boy the way I touched you, and that they need your help to stop me from doing it again&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;the police will threaten you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;the police will say they&amp;#039;ll tell your parents that you are homosexual (they&amp;#039;ll do that, anyway, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;even if you do&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;quot;talk&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;after the police tell your parents, they will be even more angry at you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;they may kick you out of your house, and never want to see you ever again&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;the police will say they&amp;#039;ll tell all your friends that you are homosexual (they&amp;#039;ll do that, anyway, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;even if you do&amp;#039;&amp;#039; &amp;quot;talk&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;after the police tell all your friends at school, all your friends will tease you, and bully you, and call you &amp;quot;gay,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;pervert,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;homo,&amp;quot; and they won&amp;#039;t ever talk to you or play with you ever again&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;the police will tell you that if you don&amp;#039;t tell them what they want to know, that&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;they will keep you in a room and keep talking to you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;that you can&amp;#039;t have anything to eat until you &amp;quot;talk&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;that you can&amp;#039;t use the toilet until you &amp;quot;talk&amp;quot; (you may even have to wet your pants, which is embarrassing)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;you won&amp;#039;t be able to go home until you &amp;#039;&amp;#039;do&amp;#039;&amp;#039; tell them what they want&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you do talk to them then this will mean that you can never see me again (except maybe once in court)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I will be arrested and put in prison for many years&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;you will be put in &amp;quot;treatment,&amp;quot; and forced to see a psychologist once or twice a week for months or maybe for years&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;the therapist will tell you that you were hurt by my touching you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you say that you &amp;#039;&amp;#039;were not&amp;#039;&amp;#039; hurt by my touching you, she will think you are lying.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if she thinks you are lying, then she will put more pressure on you to make you believe that I hurt you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;she will tell you that I am a &amp;quot;monster&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;she will say that I have to be stopped from ever touching another boy the way I touched you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;she will make you feel &amp;quot;dirty&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;abnormal&amp;quot; because I touched you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;she&amp;#039;ll tell you that it is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;really really bad&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to let someone older than you touch you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you argue with her, she will put &amp;#039;&amp;#039;more&amp;#039;&amp;#039; pressure on you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;she will tell you that &amp;quot;until you understand you cannot be healed&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you argue with her that I didn&amp;#039;t hurt you, she will put even &amp;#039;&amp;#039;more&amp;#039;&amp;#039; pressure on you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;until you agree with what the therapist says, you will be forced to continue seeing the therapist until you &amp;#039;&amp;#039;do&amp;#039;&amp;#039; agree with everything the therapist tells you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;when you finally agree (which you will &amp;#039;&amp;#039;have&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to, if you want the therapy to stop)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;you will then begin to believe that I am a &amp;quot;monster&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;you will then hate me&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;you will then regret having ever met me&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;you will then worry even more that you might now be a &amp;quot;homosexual&amp;quot; because you liked it when I touched you&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if you tell the therapist you&amp;#039;re worried about becoming homosexual, then you will have to have &amp;#039;&amp;#039;even more&amp;#039;&amp;#039; therapy&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;this will be a new and different form of therapy, and may continue for a long long time&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;if the police want to talk to you, and you &amp;#039;&amp;#039;do not&amp;#039;&amp;#039; agree to talk to them &amp;#039;&amp;#039;nothing bad&amp;#039;&amp;#039; will happen.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If your mother never finds out that I touched your dick, she won&amp;#039;t become angry and you can still come to visit me&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If &amp;#039;&amp;#039;no one ever finds out&amp;#039;&amp;#039; that I touched your dick, then it will just stay our secret, and--if you want--then I&amp;#039;ll do it again. If you &amp;#039;&amp;#039;don&amp;#039;t&amp;#039;&amp;#039; want me to touch your dick, then I won&amp;#039;t do it again.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;OK. Now that you know what &amp;#039;&amp;#039;might&amp;#039;&amp;#039; happen, do you &amp;#039;&amp;#039;still&amp;#039;&amp;#039; want to try that &amp;#039;&amp;#039;something else&amp;#039;&amp;#039; that I said is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;really fun&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, too?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Uh... hmm... it looks like none of that bad stuff could ever happen as long as I &amp;#039;&amp;#039;never&amp;#039;&amp;#039; tell anyone that you touched me, right?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Yes, that&amp;#039;s right. None of that bad stuff would ever happen to you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Then, OK--let&amp;#039;s do it! You&amp;#039;re my best friend, and I&amp;#039;ll keep my mouth shut about you forever and ever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Well, if that&amp;#039;s what you really want, then I guess we can try it, right?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Right!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Age of consent]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Informed consent]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Informed consent - realistic examples for today&amp;#039;s society]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Sexuality]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Law]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Essays]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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