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[[File:Pindar statue.jpg|thumb|center|Pindar (c. 522–443 BC). Roman copy after an original Greek bust of the 5th century BC. Naples, Museo Archeologico Nazionale.]]
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From <i>Homosexuality in [[Ancient Greece|Greece]] and [[Ancient Rome|Rome]]: A Sourcebook of Basic Documents</i>, edited by Thomas K. Hubbard (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2003). Line numbers and footnote omitted.
From <i>[[Homosexuality]] in [[Ancient Greece|Greece]] and [[Ancient Rome|Rome]]: A Sourcebook of Basic Documents</i>, edited by Thomas K. Hubbard (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2003). Footnote omitted.


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<center><b>1.85</b> Pindar, fragment 123 Snell–Maehler</center>
<center><b>1.85</b> Pindar, fragment 123 Snell–Maehler</center>


<i>This short [[skolion]] (a drinking song for performance at [[Symposium|symposia]]) praises the beauty of the boy Theoxenus. Some critics have supposed it to be Pindar’s personal declaration of love, but it was more likely commissioned by the boy’s lover and the first-person voice is meant to express the erotic attraction of any man who likes boys. Pindar’s lyric poems are built out of metrically equivalent stanzas (“strophe” and “antistrophe”) followed by a stanza in a different meter (the “epode”).</i>
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<i>This short [[skolion]] (a drinking song for performance at [[Symposium|symposia]]) praises the beauty of the boy Theoxenus. Some critics have supposed it to be Pindar’s personal declaration of love, but it was more likely commissioned by the boy’s [[Erastes|lover]] and the first-person voice is meant to express the [[Pederasty in ancient Greece|erotic attraction of any man who likes boys]]. Pindar’s lyric poems are built out of metrically equivalent stanzas (“strophe” and “antistrophe”) followed by a stanza in a different meter (the “epode”).</i>
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<i>[strophe]</i> One must pluck loves, my heart, in due season and at the<br>
<i>[strophe]</i> One must pluck loves, my heart, in due season and at the proper age.<br>
proper age.<br>
Ah! But any man who catches with his glance<br>
Ah! But any man who catches with his glance<br>
The bright rays flashing from Theoxenus’ eyes<br>
The bright rays flashing from Theoxenus’ eyes<br>
And is not tossed on the waves of desire,<br>
And is not tossed on the waves of desire,<br>
Has a black heart of adamant or iron<br>
Has a black heart of adamant or iron <small>5</small><br>
<i>[antistrophe]</i> Forged in a cold flame, and dishonored by Aphrodite of<br>
<i>[antistrophe]</i> Forged in a cold flame, and dishonored by Aphrodite of the arching brow<br>
the arching brow<br>
Either toils compulsively for money<br>
Either toils compulsively for money<br>
Or, as a slave, is towed down a path utterly cold<br>
Or, as a slave, is towed down a path utterly cold<br>
By a woman’s boldness.<br>
By a woman’s boldness.<br>
But I, by the will of the Love Goddess, melt<br>
But I, by the will of the Love Goddess, melt <small>10</small><br>
<i>[epode]</i> Like the wax of holy bees stung by the sun’s heat,<br>
<i>[epode]</i> Like the wax of holy bees stung by the sun’s heat,<br>
Whenever I look upon the fresh-limbed youth of boys.<br>
Whenever I look upon the fresh-limbed youth of boys.<br>
And surely even on the isle of Tenedos<br>
And surely even on the isle of Tenedos<br>
Seduction and Grace dwell<br>
Seduction and Grace dwell<br>
In the son of Hagesilas.  
In the son of Hagesilas. <small>15</small>
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[[File:Youths Watch, Crown, And Kiss Boy Athletes.png|thumb|center|Youths Watch, Crown, And Kiss Boy Athletes. Attic red-figure amphora by the Dikaios Painter, c. 510 BCE. Paris, Musée du Louvre, G 45.]]
[[File:Youths Watch, Crown, And Kiss Boy Athletes.png|thumb|center|Youths Watch, Crown, And Kiss Boy Athletes. Attic red-figure amphora by the Dikaios Painter, c. 510 BCE. Paris, Musée du Louvre, G 45.]]


==External Links==
==See also==
*[https://www.laits.utexas.edu/ancienthomosexuality/readindex.php?view=11 1.85-1.87 Pindar (Homosexuality in Greece and Rome - UT College of Liberal Arts)]
*[[Adult friend (dictionary)]]
*[[Age of attraction (dictionary)]]
*[[Athenian pederasty]]
*[[Boylove]]
*[[Cretan pederasty]]
*[[Ephebophilia]]
*[[Eromenos]]
*[[Greek love]]
*[[Historical boylove relationships in ancient Greece]]
*[[Loved boy (dictionary)]]
*[[Minor-attracted person (dictionary)]]
*[[Pedophilia]]
*[[Philosophy of ancient Greek pederasty]]
*[[Spartan pederasty]]
*[[Theban pederasty]]
*[[Young friend (dictionary)]]
 
==External links==
*[https://laits.utexas.edu/ancienthomosexuality/readindex.php?view=11 1.85-1.87 Pindar (Homosexuality in Greece and Rome - UT College of Liberal Arts)]
*[https://greek-love.com/antiquity/greek-practices/pursuit-and-flight-by-sir-kenneth-dover <i>PURSUIT AND FLIGHT</i> BY SIR KENNETH DOVER (Greek Love Through the Ages)]
*[https://greek-love.com/antiquity/greek-practices/greeks-pedicate-loved-boys-pederasty DID THE GREEKS PEDICATE THEIR LOVED BOYS? (Greek Love Through the Ages)]


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Revision as of 00:51, 3 June 2020

Pindar (c. 522–443 BC). Roman marble copy of the 2nd century AD after an original Greek bust of the 5th century BC. Naples, Museo Archeologico Nazionale.


From Homosexuality in Greece and Rome: A Sourcebook of Basic Documents, edited by Thomas K. Hubbard (Berkeley: University of California Press, 2003). Footnote omitted.

1.85 Pindar, fragment 123 Snell–Maehler

This short skolion (a drinking song for performance at symposia) praises the beauty of the boy Theoxenus. Some critics have supposed it to be Pindar’s personal declaration of love, but it was more likely commissioned by the boy’s lover and the first-person voice is meant to express the erotic attraction of any man who likes boys. Pindar’s lyric poems are built out of metrically equivalent stanzas (“strophe” and “antistrophe”) followed by a stanza in a different meter (the “epode”).

[strophe] One must pluck loves, my heart, in due season and at the proper age.
Ah! But any man who catches with his glance
The bright rays flashing from Theoxenus’ eyes
And is not tossed on the waves of desire,
Has a black heart of adamant or iron 5
[antistrophe] Forged in a cold flame, and dishonored by Aphrodite of the arching brow
Either toils compulsively for money
Or, as a slave, is towed down a path utterly cold
By a woman’s boldness.
But I, by the will of the Love Goddess, melt 10
[epode] Like the wax of holy bees stung by the sun’s heat,
Whenever I look upon the fresh-limbed youth of boys.
And surely even on the isle of Tenedos
Seduction and Grace dwell
In the son of Hagesilas. 15


Youths Watch, Crown, And Kiss Boy Athletes. Attic red-figure amphora by the Dikaios Painter, c. 510 BCE. Paris, Musée du Louvre, G 45.

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