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Hi. Good article! You may wish to incorporate information from related articles at BoyWiki which may be discovered through this search: https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=*encryption&go=Go
Hi. Good article! You may wish to incorporate information from related articles at BoyWiki which may be discovered through this search: https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=*encryption&go=Go


Perhaps you could also include a discussion of 4th-amendment guaranties against self-incrimination?
Perhaps you could also include a discussion of 5th-amendment guaranties against self-incrimination?


Have you checked newgon wiki for related articles yet? There is an archived copy of it at web.archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20111108195112/http://newgon.com/wiki/ but the search function does not work
Have you checked newgon wiki for related articles yet? There is an archived copy of it at web.archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20111108195112/http://newgon.com/wiki/ but the search function does not work
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== reply to [[User4]] ==
== reply to [[User4]] ==


Hey [https://www.boywiki.org/en/User:User4 User4] thanks for the suggestions. I was wondering, do you know how to change the way the references look on the page? I would like them to be in columns and appear under the heading References. As of now they are situated right after https://www.boywiki.org/en/Encryption#United_States and it doesn't look clean like that.
Again thanks for all your help. [[User:Thomasmann|Thomasmann]] ([[User talk:Thomasmann|talk]]) 00:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC) (edited to add signature)
: I had the same problem with an article from Wikipedia.  I believe the references problem is because you are using Wikipedia format for citations: e.g. "#cite_note-5".
: By manually changing each citation to <nowiki><ref>PUT_YOUR_REFERENCE_HERE</ref></nowiki> the references will appear in the <nowiki>{{reflist}}</nowiki> section under <nowiki>==References==</nowiki> (NOTE: I added <nowiki>{{reflist}}</nowiki> in your article.) About columns, you have to ask Etenne. OK? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 20:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
:: Ok thank you, but before when i added <nowiki>{{reflist}}</nowiki> it was doing really strange things like making the references section appear 3 times. I'll get it eventually I guess. Thanks for your help.
::: The "#cite_note-5" references screw the page up (if I remember correctly from fixing an article of my own) and they ''all'' must be removed. If you copy the contents of the page and paste into a straight-text editor (like Notepad under the Windows operating system) you may find it easier to use a search/replace function to help in fixing them. (NOTE: using one additional colon at the beginning of your response indents the response. I added one to your response above. For example, this response to you has 3 colons. Also, if you copy this <nowiki> ~~~~ </nowiki> and paste it to the end of your response, your user name and the date/time will appear after your response [you will be "signing" your response].) [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 21:14, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


:::: I have now made a few small changes to the coding, and I think the problem is now fixed. I removed the junk with <nowiki> {{cite... </nowiki> and added the missing <nowiki> </ref></nowiki> to the last of the references. I made a "junktest" version, with changes, here: https://www.boywiki.org/en/User4/junkencryptiontest
:::: Does it look better now? [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 21:37, 30 April 2016 (UTC)


Hey [https://www.boywiki.org/en/User:User4 User4] thanks for the suggestions. I was wondering, do you know how to change the way the references look on the page? I would like them to be in columns and appear under the heading References. As of now they are situated right after https://www.boywiki.org/en/Encryption#United_States and it doesn't look clean like that.  
:::::[[User:User4|User4]], Are you saying we should get rid of all the parts about key disclosure law in various countries? I don't know if I'd agree. For example in countries where one must disclose their key or face indefinite detention, it'd probably be advisable to come up with some other sort of solution; '''such as just not saving any BL related things.''' I'm not speaking of child porn. Perhaps in some country a guy could be forced to reveal his key to a drive that was full of non-nude pictures of boys. Maybe he could be put in prison for that thought crime. If I lived in a country like that, I would want to know about it. But maybe, getting rid of that part isn't what you meant? I'm not sure.


Again thanks for all your help.
:::::One thing I was thinking, there are about 5 privacy and security tutorials on this wiki. Some of them are better than others. A lot of them have some sort of little snippet on encryption. I'm wondering if we should '''combine all the security tutorials into one page''' while continue to improve this main encryption page. I'm not sure how [[Etenne]] feel's about combining and merging pages. I'm sure he doesn't want to annoy anyone. It does seem better if there was just one security tutorial that was well written and comprehensive. Another example is the page [[Steganography]]. That should probably just be a subcategory in the main encryption page. Most of them mention [[Tor]] but we could even expand the [[Tor]] page with a tutorial on how to set up your own hidden service or how to set up an "anonymizing middelbox", etc. [[User:Thomasmann|Thomasmann]] ([[User talk:Thomasmann|talk]]) 00:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 00:52, 5 May 2016

Hi. Good article! You may wish to incorporate information from related articles at BoyWiki which may be discovered through this search: https://www.boywiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=*encryption&go=Go

Perhaps you could also include a discussion of 5th-amendment guaranties against self-incrimination?

Have you checked newgon wiki for related articles yet? There is an archived copy of it at web.archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20111108195112/http://newgon.com/wiki/ but the search function does not work

Newgon apparently has been reinstated as newgon.net, and there is a search function to discover information.

The relevant article may be this one: https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Guide_to_Computer_Security

NOTE: The security certificate has lapsed at newgon.net, so there is some question as to whether the site can be trusted, and the possibility exists that javascript exploits may be present on the site which could expose the IP address of the person accessing the site (it is unlikely, but it is a possibility). I personally do not access newgon.net because I will not take such risks, even if they are small--but you may feel differently. User4 (talk) 19:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

reply to User4

Hey User4 thanks for the suggestions. I was wondering, do you know how to change the way the references look on the page? I would like them to be in columns and appear under the heading References. As of now they are situated right after https://www.boywiki.org/en/Encryption#United_States and it doesn't look clean like that.

Again thanks for all your help. Thomasmann (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC) (edited to add signature)


I had the same problem with an article from Wikipedia. I believe the references problem is because you are using Wikipedia format for citations: e.g. "#cite_note-5".
By manually changing each citation to <ref>PUT_YOUR_REFERENCE_HERE</ref> the references will appear in the {{reflist}} section under ==References== (NOTE: I added {{reflist}} in your article.) About columns, you have to ask Etenne. OK? User4 (talk) 20:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Ok thank you, but before when i added {{reflist}} it was doing really strange things like making the references section appear 3 times. I'll get it eventually I guess. Thanks for your help.
The "#cite_note-5" references screw the page up (if I remember correctly from fixing an article of my own) and they all must be removed. If you copy the contents of the page and paste into a straight-text editor (like Notepad under the Windows operating system) you may find it easier to use a search/replace function to help in fixing them. (NOTE: using one additional colon at the beginning of your response indents the response. I added one to your response above. For example, this response to you has 3 colons. Also, if you copy this ~~~~ and paste it to the end of your response, your user name and the date/time will appear after your response [you will be "signing" your response].) User4 (talk) 21:14, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
I have now made a few small changes to the coding, and I think the problem is now fixed. I removed the junk with {{cite... and added the missing </ref> to the last of the references. I made a "junktest" version, with changes, here: https://www.boywiki.org/en/User4/junkencryptiontest
Does it look better now? User4 (talk) 21:37, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
User4, Are you saying we should get rid of all the parts about key disclosure law in various countries? I don't know if I'd agree. For example in countries where one must disclose their key or face indefinite detention, it'd probably be advisable to come up with some other sort of solution; such as just not saving any BL related things. I'm not speaking of child porn. Perhaps in some country a guy could be forced to reveal his key to a drive that was full of non-nude pictures of boys. Maybe he could be put in prison for that thought crime. If I lived in a country like that, I would want to know about it. But maybe, getting rid of that part isn't what you meant? I'm not sure.
One thing I was thinking, there are about 5 privacy and security tutorials on this wiki. Some of them are better than others. A lot of them have some sort of little snippet on encryption. I'm wondering if we should combine all the security tutorials into one page while continue to improve this main encryption page. I'm not sure how Etenne feel's about combining and merging pages. I'm sure he doesn't want to annoy anyone. It does seem better if there was just one security tutorial that was well written and comprehensive. Another example is the page Steganography. That should probably just be a subcategory in the main encryption page. Most of them mention Tor but we could even expand the Tor page with a tutorial on how to set up your own hidden service or how to set up an "anonymizing middelbox", etc. Thomasmann (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC)