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Personally I believe that the more simple things are the better, if you introduce modules they must be updated for ever, and that requires time, something we are short of due to few staff. Most hacked Wikis and websites happen because of outdated software, I would not add the module but of course this is not for me to decide, I will be happy with whatever BoyWiki does.
Personally I believe that the more simple things are the better, if you introduce modules they must be updated for ever, and that requires time and no delays updating, something we are short of due to few staff. Most hacked Wikis and websites happen because of outdated software, I would not add the module but of course this is not for me to decide, I will be happy with whatever BoyWiki does.


Possible solution, eliminate navigation boxes from the Wiki and include the data inside a table or similar instead.
Possible solution, eliminate navigation boxes from the Wiki and include the data inside a table or similar instead.


--[[User:Eskimo|Eskimo]] ([[User talk:Eskimo|talk]]) 02:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
--[[User:Eskimo|Eskimo]] ([[User talk:Eskimo|talk]]) 02:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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To all users

It would be a good idea to review this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view

In short, the neutrality of point of view leads to an objective, "scientific" discourse, whereas non-neutrality leads to one-sided views and propaganda.

An important point is perhaps to understand that specific sympathies are not incompatible with a neutral point of view: you can like a country, a person, an amorous preference, and nevertheless be able of an objective discourse about it.

Only objectivity is credible. That's why it is vital for BoyWiki. We don't "promote", we explain and illustrate. --Etenne (talk) 12:25, 4 March 2015 (UTC)




Please ask yourself before hitting the post button

  1. Dose this have a cultural or historical relavance to boylove?
  2. By posting this are you going to make Etenne lose sleep?

To all BoyWiki users:Naming

The convention for naming pages is that articles should be singular whereas categories should be plural.

  • Names of topics and topic categories should be singular, normally corresponding to the name of a BoyWiki. article. Examples: "Law" (which represents a body of knowledge), "France", "George W. Bush".
  • Names of set categories should be plural. Examples: "Writers", "Villages in Poland".

However, I am willing to hear counter arguments to this practice or suggestions before deciding what the policy should be --Etenne (talk) 13:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Just yesterday I noticed that Wikipedia has categories with a singular title, e.g. wikipedia:Category:Vagina. Also, there are some plural article titles, e.g.wikipedia:Jews. Lysander (talk) 15:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
You can't figure out what those two (obvious, at least, to me) errors are due to? Uh... You certainly make up in glibness what you lack in perspicacity. User4 (talk) 02:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Enlighten me. Lysander (talk) 03:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey! You didn't enlighten me about what those two errors are due to. Lysander (talk) 04:10, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


Welcome back

I was glad to read your message on BoyChat and to see you're back. Then I thought: is there any hope left that the French BoyWiki will survive? :-/

Bron disappeared, I don't know when, why nor where. So did the French tech Pinocchio, which is a great loss. Some rare contributors obstinately continued creating pages on the French wiki between 2015 and 2019. But now I think they are disheartened because of the recent and sudden software change, that ruined all the formatting we had made on a lot of pages (thanks to Pinocchio's coding extensions).

Now it seems that the Council's page doesn't work anymore -- or am I wrong?

If you can be of some help, I'd like to write more to you through a secure mailbox.

Caprineus (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

I categorized all the daily pages of the French Agora, from December 7, 2008 to July 9, 2014 (most of them were difficult to find before this categorization): Agora
Now everybody can see the really tough job that had been made by many contributors of the French BoyWiki, especially by the tech Pinocchio. It is not acceptable that such a job is destroyed after every update or server change, as exposed here: Modifications intempestives (written more than eight months ago – nobody even bothered to answer).
But do French-speaking writings matter?... :-/
Caprineus (talk) 13:55, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
"But do French-speaking writings matter?" Well, I suppose that depends on who you ask. I would hope they matter to other French-speaking people and writers. I still don't have e-mail yet. Yeah, the upgrades do mess things up a bit but there is no way around that.
Etenne
Thank you for answering.
The true problem is: when Wikipedia runs an update of MediaWiki, all features already installed are kept and perform correctly; but when BoyWiki is updated, almost all features created by a tech are suppressed. Why?
This is not "messing things up a bit", but destroying things a lot. :-( As I said before, when contributors see this, they are disheartened.
I hope you can contact somebody who steps in on this wrong update process. As for me, I know nobody, and can do nothing: my only competence is to write about cultural boy-love topics. If "there is no way around" to keep my job in a good state and appearance, well... I will finally recognize that I was wrong to spend so much time and energy for it. :-(((
Caprineus (talk) 22:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Etenne

Hello Etenne

I marked page https://www.boywiki.org/en/BBS for deletion, I copied and pasted the content it has into https://www.boywiki.org/en/Internet I am trying to keep things simple, it makes it easier to find the information. The content is not getting lost, it is simply incorporated into a different page as a section. BBS page is too small to have a dedicated page to something that no longer exists.

--Eskimo (talk) 01:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Addition Etenne

With my very limited knowledge of CSS I have been trying to troubleshoot the problem with Navbar and I noticed that BoyWiky Navbox templates page https://www.boywiki.org/en/Category:Navbox_templates mentions "BoyWiki does not support templates that require Scribunto" and Navbox is listed in Wikimedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Navbox/configuration as an Scribunto module, specifically, it says on top "You might want to create a documentation page for this Scribunto module.". I don´t know if I could be off the charts here or not, I have limited knowledge but one possible theory is that Navbox needs a module to work and this is not supported by Boywiki.

--Eskimo (talk) 02:10, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Addition 2

I have researched this a little further and found somebody in Reddit with exactly the same problem, 8 months old post, they uploaded screenshots and it looks the same, links below, the answer given was that they need to install a mediawiki extension called templatestyles.

I have come to the conclusion that in order for Navbar to work it needs not only Scribunto but also the extension Templatestyles, it needs both of them, as one of Reddit users mentions that he has Scribunto enabled.

https://www.reddit.com/r/mediawiki/comments/p5vpz1/navbox_bug_need_help/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mediawiki/comments/opklg5/templatestyles_appearing_at_the_top_of_every_page/

Personally I believe that the more simple things are the better, if you introduce modules they must be updated for ever, and that requires time and no delays updating, something we are short of due to few staff. Most hacked Wikis and websites happen because of outdated software, I would not add the module but of course this is not for me to decide, I will be happy with whatever BoyWiki does.

Possible solution, eliminate navigation boxes from the Wiki and include the data inside a table or similar instead.

--Eskimo (talk) 02:46, 6 April 2022 (UTC)