Talk:BoyLovers vs. "Normals" - A comprehensive list of the differences between the two

The claims in this article are 100% accurate. Citations are needed, which may be found by accessing articles found at ipce.info, at newgon wiki, as well as in other sources. As BoyWiki is a cooperative effort, surely other editors will soon be able to invest the time needed to do the research and then to add the necessary citations. Interested editors could begin here: https://web.archive.org/web/20111108195112/http://newgon.com/wiki/Research:_Psychopathy_and_abnormal_Psychology User4 (talk) 19:19, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

The fact that you felt the need to add this disclaimer indicates to me that you knew I would have a problem with it when you posted it. The way it is now is simply propaganda editorial --Etenne 22:40, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, but I fail to see how a true statement, but one without supporting "references," becomes "propoganda", while a true statement with (seemingly appropriate) "references" suddenly becomes something other than "propoganda". Perhaps you could explain this paradox to me? (Some day I'm going to take the hour or two necessary to carefully explain to you how the "reference" game works--and how it is often abused. You don't seem at all familiar with it.) User4 (talk) 01:51, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Take a look at this:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reference_work

Note that at the very first "reference" you find the remarks "[not in citation given][unreliable source?]"

"Ah!," Etenne says, but the statement made has a reference!"

Yes. And the references is absolute crap. You really need to study up a little more on "the reference game." NOTE: I say "the reference game" where by "reference" I mean "citation". User4 (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

"The Ombudsman: Verification of Citations: Fawlty Towers of Knowledge?" will begin to give you some idea of the problems found in citations:

• http://pubsonline.informs.org/doi/pdf/10.1287/inte.1070.0317

I have several books somewhere which give many more reasons that citations are not to be depended on. I have those books. Somewhere, buried deep in my library... User4 (talk) 03:18, 2 May 2016 (UTC)