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"The nature, vitality, and duration of the relationship, as well as the extent of nurturing and mentoring, are determined by mutual consent, with the boy's wishes taking precedence." Why, in a mutually consensual relationship, would either party's wishes take precedence over the other's? What would that even mean? | "The nature, vitality, and duration of the relationship, as well as the extent of nurturing and mentoring, are determined by mutual consent, with the boy's wishes taking precedence." Why, in a mutually consensual relationship, would either party's wishes take precedence over the other's? What would that even mean? | ||
Suppose, for example, a man says to a boy, "I want to have sex." If the boy says no, then the man's options are to either accept that and have a sexless relationship, or end the relationship. So it's not really a case of either's desires taking precedence over the other. There either is a [[wikipedia:coincidence of wants|coincidence of wants]] or there isn't. Neither is the other's master or slave. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC) | Suppose, for example, a man says to a boy, "I want to have sex." If the boy says no, then the man's options are to either accept that and have a sexless relationship, or end the relationship. So it's not really a case of either's desires taking precedence over the other. There either is a [[wikipedia:coincidence of wants|coincidence of wants]] or there isn't. Neither is the other's master or slave. | ||
Even feminists would never be so bold as to explicitly say that a woman's wishes should take precedence in a relationship, even though they think that men have the upper hand as far as social, economic, and political power and status are concerned, and their proposals tend to point in the direction of giving women's wishes precedence. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 22:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
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"The nature, vitality, and duration of the relationship, as well as the extent of nurturing and mentoring, are determined by mutual consent, with the boy's wishes taking precedence." Why, in a mutually consensual relationship, would either party's wishes take precedence over the other's? What would that even mean?
Suppose, for example, a man says to a boy, "I want to have sex." If the boy says no, then the man's options are to either accept that and have a sexless relationship, or end the relationship. So it's not really a case of either's desires taking precedence over the other. There either is a coincidence of wants or there isn't. Neither is the other's master or slave.
Even feminists would never be so bold as to explicitly say that a woman's wishes should take precedence in a relationship, even though they think that men have the upper hand as far as social, economic, and political power and status are concerned, and their proposals tend to point in the direction of giving women's wishes precedence. Lysander (talk) 22:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
