BoyWiki:Agora/18 April 2015

Agora/18 April 2015

Essays in mainspace

Do you want to include essays in mainspace, or should we create a separate namespace for them? If they are going to be put in mainspace, should they be formatted differently than other articles, so that it's immediately evident that they're essays, or does the byline adequately signal that? Lysander (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Essays should go in Category:Life. Plus to be frank, I find it really annoying when people refuse to take the time to categorize their entries properly (or expect me to do it) or following our category layout. I mean there are only three main categories, and they give explanations on what is suppose to go into each section. Category Encyclopedia is a mess and I am not going to clean it up. I will keep categories Entertainment and Life organized but it is up to you guys who are working primary in category encyclopedia to fix it. --Etenne (talk) 13:06, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

WTF? BoyWiki has no "category layout"!

Essays should go where people can find them easily if they are interested in reading them. In fact, everything should be easy to find for anyone interested. Burying an article within one single category because it is the "correct" category, and a category that people would not normally expect that article to be found in, is an excellent way to make the articles just disappear from the reader's view.

With your way of "categorizing" (in quotes because you do not seem to understand the real reasoning and method behind categorization) you have succeeded in burying most articles on BoyWiki so they cannot be easily, if at all, found by visitors.

Why would you want to do that? Why would you not want people to be able to easily find things that interest them? Why do you seem to think that there is only "one correct category" for each article?

BoyWiki is the only wiki in the world that categorizes articles in the way that you do. Doesn't that make you think that BoyWiki perhaps is doing something wrong? Or do you think that every other wiki in the world is wrong in the way they categorize things?

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Floor_500 that is their main category which is different from ours (which is basicly Category:index which is different others

• http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Browse Walking dead wiki starts at Browse
• http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Browse Game of Thrones wiki starts at Browse also.. They all look different to me. I could add some graphics if you think it would make it less confusing?--Etenne (talk) 16:35, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

BoyWiki should allow those who understand how and why things are professionally categorized in the ways that they are to set up a "categorization layout". Of the editors who are now active, which one appears to have the most skills necessary to do that the best? You? Wanker? Lysander? Who?

• User4 (talk) 09:13, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

The reality is that, if people don't categorize their own pages or incorrectly categorize them (esp in category encyclopedia) they end up going where I think they should go after giving it 2 seconds thought because I don't have the time to read every entry and decide what categories it belongs in and perhaps even which categories should be created. So pretty much I dump them where I approximately think they should go and maybe if I have the time later, I go back and organize. That might seem a bad way to go about it and it is... but if the authors doesn't care enough to categorize it correctly (according to the instructions that I have already given), why should I? --Etenne (talk) 13:48, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

• Also, you need to Keep in mind that BoyWiki was started long before I got here and the current category plan was laid out by the original BoyWiki Keeper and Curators... I am simply following their plan as to what they intended. When I started working on BoyWiki there were 4 top level Categories (Encyclopedia Entertainment, Life, with Category BoyWiki being the administrative category) There were no indices or portals and none of the templates were categorized and the main page had not been updated since May 20, 2009‎ (I started in Sept 2012). My overall assessment is that we are making good progress but that we can still do a better job putting entries in to categories as we go. Plus some of the current categories are now big enough to be broken up into subcategories. At some point when I have time, I plan to re-categorize Category:Dictionary alphabetically. I simply can't do everything so when you are working on a page or add a page, you need to spend a little more time thinking about where (on BoyWiki) it should go (keeping in mind that were are not a general encyclopedia like Wikipedia) and if there are other similar entries on this subject that could justify the creation of a new subcategory. --Etenne (talk) 14:12, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, or we need more wikignomes, or to organize the work better. If someone knows they're adding a page to a broader category than it should be in, they could add a template noting that later recategorization is needed. Lysander (talk) 16:30, 19 April 2015 (UTC)