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:I'm really not on the same page as you, although I am very sympathetic towards both your industriousness and idealism. I am sympathetic to this cause/movement in much the same way that I am to nationalists/Nazis. Meaning, I agree that you are both being victimized and that your opponents are irrational and/or vicious. However, my diagnosis goes a lot deeper than yours, and I'm ready to elaborate on this assertion to anyone who's interested in it. As you may have surmised from several of my posts at BoyChat, I am convinced that we are on the threshold of transitioning out of the current paradigm across the board. I can see this quite clearly, and I am on the vanguard of this imminent event. You are attempting to revision and reform the incumbent paradigm. I see no point in doing that, for the reason I just stated.<br><br>
:I'm really not on the same page as you, although I am very sympathetic towards both your industriousness and idealism. I am sympathetic to this cause/movement in much the same way that I am to nationalists/Nazis. Meaning, I agree that you are both being victimized and that your opponents are irrational and/or vicious. However, my diagnosis goes a lot deeper than yours, and I'm ready to elaborate on this assertion to anyone who's interested in it. As you may have surmised from several of my posts at BoyChat, I am convinced that we are on the threshold of transitioning out of the current paradigm across the board. I can see this quite clearly, and I am on the vanguard of this imminent event. You are attempting to revision and reform the incumbent paradigm. I see no point in doing that, for the reason I just stated.<br><br>
:Thus, my interest is completely absent when it comes to law issues, or advocacy, or resistance. I am interested in apprehending deeper perspectives, both from the protagonist as well as the antagonist camps. I am interesting in the deep triggers where psychology becomes blurred with and becomes overtaken by ontology. I already comprehend much of the overall dynamics that are in play in the world at this time. I'll volunteer one of the core ones as being the conflict between the genders. The "handling" of male homosexuality through social engineering and the blatant suppression of child sexuality and intergenerational sexual relations are the most critical corollaries of this conflict, the war on masculinity similarly. I don't see any sign of an awareness of these connections among the communities touching on the present one. That's detrimental in my opinion. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
:Thus, my interest is completely absent when it comes to law issues, or advocacy, or resistance. I am interested in apprehending deeper perspectives, both from the protagonist as well as the antagonist camps. I am interesting in the deep triggers where psychology becomes blurred with and becomes overtaken by ontology. I already comprehend much of the overall dynamics that are in play in the world at this time. I'll volunteer one of the core ones as being the conflict between the genders. The "handling" of male homosexuality through social engineering and the blatant suppression of child sexuality and intergenerational sexual relations are the most critical corollaries of this conflict, the war on masculinity similarly. I don't see any sign of an awareness of these connections among the communities touching on the present one. That's detrimental in my opinion. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 17:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
::You lost me. Are there some BoyChat posts you'd like to direct my attention to? Yes, I'd be interested in hearing you elaborate. Thanks.
::You lost me. Are there some BoyChat posts you'd like to direct my attention to? Yes, I'd be interested in hearing you elaborate. Thanks.<br><br>
 
::By the way, incarcerated girllover Vlad Draconis PenDragon (aka Matthew Mercer-Kinser) has a question: "I think I see what he's saying. But is he suggesting that we sit back and wait for the paradigms to shift? Or does he have some kind of an idea about how we can inspire the change, or hurry it along?" [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
::By the way, incarcerated girllover Vlad Draconis PenDragon (aka Matthew Mercer-Kinser) has a question: "I think I see what he's saying. But is he suggesting that we sit back and wait for the paradigms to shift? Or does he have some kind of an idea about how we can inspire the change, or hurry it along?" [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 00:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
:::The first I posted on this was [http://boychat.org/messages/1459103.htm this thread]. Then also see [http://boychat.org/messages/1459117.htm this] and [http://boychat.org/messages/1459178.htm this], as well as [http://boychat.org/messages/1459122.htm this] from a subsequent thread.<p>
:::As for the Mercer-Kinser quote, I'm a bit confused. Who's he referring to?
:::I'll be happy to elaborate when you've read the post/comments I've linked to and clarified about the Mercer-Kinser quote. __[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 18:34, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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Welcome to BoyWiki! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Etenne (talk) 12:13, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!! I'm excited :-) __meco (talk) 12:23, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
It is not a good idea to list you real name on your user page. I understand that you are open regarding your sexuality but it is just asking for trouble. --Etenne (talk) 12:54, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
I appreciate your advice, however, this is not something I would reconsider. __meco (talk) 14:09, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Glad to see you here. I too am on that short list of WMF-banned users, as Leucosticte. Lysander (talk) 03:04, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
A mark of honor, to be sure! I was banned on the Norwegian Wikipedia already in 2007 for not toeing the party line, although the accusations were completely trumped up. Then after more than 50,000 edits I got banned of en-Wiki in 2013 for allegedly being a self-admitted pedophile, and of course earlier this year from Commons and shortly thereafter project-wide in an irrational storm of hysteria with no substantial basis. Anyway, I get the impression that you are taking on the Wikimedia community. I don't bother about that. __meco (talk) 12:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't really take them on. I just make it clear where I stand, and that their efforts to get rid of me will only work temporarily. Aside from that, I just do a lot of ban evasion, and I don't let it deter me when they catch me and delete or revert everything.

By the way, I proposed the creation of an RSOL wiki, and a Reform Sex Offender Laws leader tells me, "Nathan, if that wiki is your passion, then by all means go for it! Set it up, complete a few posts, and perhaps share a list of others you would like to write or invite others to write. I can take that to our Communications team (and possibly our Board) and get their input on whether it would be okay to brand as an RSOL enterprise. Even if it should stay on your own server, it could still be something we can link to from our site, though, and we could encourage folks to add to it should they be so inclined. Keep me posted on progress!" Would you be interested in participating in such a project, and if so, in what capacity? At the beginning, we're going to need a lot of content creation, but of course wikignoming is always helpful, and you could be a sysop as well.

What I have in mind is that this wiki could cover a lot of the law- and politics-related content that some people have complained has come to dominate BoyWiki and BoyChat too much. We do have to avoid explicitly advocating for repeal/reform of the age of consent on an RSOL wiki, but we can make a lot of the same arguments about adult-child sex not being harmful to children, as long as we put those arguments in the context of saying that the sentences don't need to be as harsh as they currently are. Note that RSOL doesn't go so far as to support the existence of an age of consent either; they're officially neutral on the subject, and I'd say they want to stay that way. They need to avoid advocating age of consent abolition in order to avoid getting viewed as the new NAMBLA; but on the other hand, I'm sure they have a lot of members (including me) who want the age of consent repealed. Some examples of articles that this wiki could have:

These are all articles that got deleted from Wikipedia. At this point, so many pedos and pedo sympathizers have been banned from Wikipedia that we need to have our own separate wiki just to cover topics that Wikipedia would've considered notable, if the articles hadn't been written by us. (Any article written by a pedo or pedo-sympathizer is automatically considered a "POV fork," "poorly written," etc.)

Feel free to edit ChildWiki too, particularly if you want to contribute content that's too edgy for BoyWiki... Lysander (talk) 03:54, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear Nathan!

I'm really not on the same page as you, although I am very sympathetic towards both your industriousness and idealism. I am sympathetic to this cause/movement in much the same way that I am to nationalists/Nazis. Meaning, I agree that you are both being victimized and that your opponents are irrational and/or vicious. However, my diagnosis goes a lot deeper than yours, and I'm ready to elaborate on this assertion to anyone who's interested in it. As you may have surmised from several of my posts at BoyChat, I am convinced that we are on the threshold of transitioning out of the current paradigm across the board. I can see this quite clearly, and I am on the vanguard of this imminent event. You are attempting to revision and reform the incumbent paradigm. I see no point in doing that, for the reason I just stated.

Thus, my interest is completely absent when it comes to law issues, or advocacy, or resistance. I am interested in apprehending deeper perspectives, both from the protagonist as well as the antagonist camps. I am interesting in the deep triggers where psychology becomes blurred with and becomes overtaken by ontology. I already comprehend much of the overall dynamics that are in play in the world at this time. I'll volunteer one of the core ones as being the conflict between the genders. The "handling" of male homosexuality through social engineering and the blatant suppression of child sexuality and intergenerational sexual relations are the most critical corollaries of this conflict, the war on masculinity similarly. I don't see any sign of an awareness of these connections among the communities touching on the present one. That's detrimental in my opinion. __meco (talk) 17:48, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
You lost me. Are there some BoyChat posts you'd like to direct my attention to? Yes, I'd be interested in hearing you elaborate. Thanks.

By the way, incarcerated girllover Vlad Draconis PenDragon (aka Matthew Mercer-Kinser) has a question: "I think I see what he's saying. But is he suggesting that we sit back and wait for the paradigms to shift? Or does he have some kind of an idea about how we can inspire the change, or hurry it along?" Lysander (talk) 00:33, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
The first I posted on this was this thread. Then also see this and this, as well as this from a subsequent thread.

As for the Mercer-Kinser quote, I'm a bit confused. Who's he referring to?
I'll be happy to elaborate when you've read the post/comments I've linked to and clarified about the Mercer-Kinser quote. __meco (talk) 18:34, 7 November 2015 (UTC)