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    Alan Strieper
 
    Alfred Kinsey
 
    Allen Ginsberg
    Álvaro de Luna
    Alvin Malesky
    Andreas Embiricos
    Andrew Calimach
    André Gide
    Anita Bryant
    Asa Butterfield
    Baron Corvo
    Bernard Faucon
    Bill Andriette
    Bill Duckett
    Bill Thompson
    Bill Tilden
    Billy Byars, Jr.
    Billy Byars, Sr.
    Billy Elliot
    Billy Gilman
    Bruce Rind
    Bruce Wayne (Batman)
    Bryan Singer
    Casimir Dukahz
    Chandler Riggs
    Charles Warren Stoddard
    Chris Smith
    Chris Zoukis
    Clarence Osborne
    Clarence Tripp
    Cole and Dylan Sprouse
    D.H. Mader
    Dave Riegel
    David Finkelhor
    David Norris
    David Riegel
    David Thorstad
    Declan Galbraith
    Dr. Milton Diamond
    Dr. Theo Sandfort
    Dylan Thomas
    Edward Brongersma
    Edward Perry Warren
    Edwin Emmanuel Bradford
    Enid Bloch
    Federico García Lorca
    Francisco Giner de los Ríos
    Francisco giner de los rios
    Frank Torey
    Frederick Rolfe
    Frederick William Rolfe
    Friedrich Nietzsche
    Frits Bernard
    Gaston Goor
    Gerald Hannon
    Gerald P. Jones
    Gerhard Schmidt-Gaden
    Germaine Greer
    Gil Hardwick
    Guy Strait
    Gérard Marot
    Hajo Ortil
    Hakim Bey
    Haley Joel Osment
    Harmodius and Aristogeiton
    Heather Elizabeth Peterson
    Henry de Montherlant
    Holy Bible
    Holy Bible (book)
    How not to accidentally out yourself
    J.M. Barrie
    J. Edgar Hoover
    Jack-A-Roe
    Jackie Coogan
    James Cantor
    James Kent?
    James R. Kincaid
    Janssen-Verlag
    Jean-Pierre Negrepont
    Jim Peron
    Jock Sturges
    John Addington Symonds
    John D. Stamford
    John Gambril Nicholson
    John Henry Mackay
    John Mitzel
    John Stamford
    Joseph Doucé
    Joseph Geraci
    Judith Levine
    Judith Reisman
    Justin Berry
    Karel Egermeier
    Karol Szymanowski
    Kenneth Searight
    Larry King
    Lasse Nielsen
    Lawrence A. Stanley
    Lawrence Brose
    Lex Scantinia
    List of Pedologues transcripts
    List of anti-pedophile quotes
    List of boy movies
    List of boylove-related publications
    List of boylove-related publications (date)
    List of boylove-related search query results
    List of centuries
    List of decades
    List of historical anniversaries
    List of hoax pedophilia organisations
    List of millennia
    List of years
    Lord Alfred Douglas
    Marius Borg Høiby
    Mark Lester
    Mark Schieldrop: press hostility to Azov accuracy
    Mary Kay Letourneau
    Max More
    Michael F. Melsheimer
    Michael Jackson
    Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons
    Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons (book)
    Michael Melsheimer
    Michaelmelsheimer
    Mick Moran of Interpol and Pro-active Pedo Policing
    Mick Moran of Interpol and Pro-active Pedophile Policing
    Miguel de Unamuno
    Mike Echols
    Nathaniel Abraham
    Nidarosdomens guttekor
    Niklas Edlund
    Nolan Gould
    Normalization of pedophilia (dictionary)
    Oscar Wilde
    Penile plethysmograph
    Peter Glawson
    Phylogenesis of pedophilia
    Pierre Joubert
    Ralph Nicholas Chubb
    Religious Debate Chat
    Richard Stallman
    Richard Yuill
    Robert M. Wren
    Robin Sharpe
    Roderik Muit
    Roger Peyrefitte
    Sam Manzie
    Samuel Weaver
    Sebastian Edathy
    Sensitive Stephen
    Southeast Asia
    St. Mule
    State-rape - mortification of non-harming deviants by Kristofor
    State rape
    State rape (dictionary)
    Stephanie Dallam
    Susan Clancy
    Sverre Magnus
    Text of Canadian Immigration rejection to Mike Echols
    Text of the BoyChat Webmaster statement of 3 July 2001
    Text of the BoyWiki proposal
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto (Dutch)
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto (English)
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto (French)
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto (Romanian)
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto (Russian)
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto (Slovakian)
    Text of the Boylove Manifesto (Spanish)
    Text of the FSC statement of 27 April 2001
    The 'Butner Study' Redux
    The Age Taboo
    The Asbestos Diary
    The Boy: A Photographic Essay
    The Boy (disambiguation)
    The Boy with Green Hair (film)
    The Boys of St. Vincent
    The Boys of St. Vincent (Film)
    The Boys of St. Vincent (film)
    The Butcher Boy
    The Butcher Boy (Film)
    The Butcher Boy (film)
    The Church of Zeus and Ganymede
    The DSM: Psychiatry's Deadliest Scam (film)
    The Descent of Chester (by Ironclad)
    The Development of the Sexual Instinct
    The Exquisite Corpse of Ganymede
    The Exquisite Corpse of Ganymede by Andrew Calimach
    The Genesis Children
    The Genesis Children (Film)
    The Genesis Children (film)
    The Great Outage
    The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things
    The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things (Film)
    The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things (film)
    The Last of the Wine
    The Last of the Wine (Book)
    The Last of the Wine (book)
    The Leadership Council
    The Major Uranians
    The Mask Seller (Zacharie Astruc)
    The Medici Boy
    The Medici Boy (Book)
    The Medici Boy (book)
    The Oath of Spartacus (Louis-Ernest Barrias)
    The Persian Boy
    The Persian Boy (Book)
    The Persian Boy (book)
    The Red Balloon (Short film)
    The Red Balloon (film)
    The Returned (film)
    The Trauma Myth
    The Trauma Myth (Book)
    The Treehouse
    The Tribe
    The Tribe (TV series)
    The Walking Dead (TV series)
    The War Against "Child Molesters"
    The War Against "Child Molesters" (c. 1989) (pamphlet)
    The War Against "Child Molestors"
    The Way, Way Back
    The Way, Way Back (Film)
    The Way, Way Back (film)
    The boys of NAMBLA
    The heavenly Cupid. An anthology of Boy-Love (Edwin Lutyens)
    The pool with the cinderblock walls
    The poster known as
    The problem with BoyLovers and the BoyLove movement
    The thin wedge to immobilize citizens
    Theo Sandfort
    Therapy for pedophilia/pedophiles
    Thomas Mann
    Title 18 of the United States Code
    To Catch a Predator
    Tom O'Carroll
    Tom Reeves
    Tony Duvert
    Tor Erling Staff
    Trafficking of women and children (sexual slavery)
    Traumagenic dynamics
    Traumatic bonding
    Traumatic sexualization
    Trochus/Hoop
    Tölzer Knabenchor
    U.S. Sentencing Guidelines
    U.S. State Laws
    U.S. Supreme Court
    U.S. v. Knox
    UK
    UNODC
    UN Documents: Rights Of The Child
    United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit?
    United States Sentencing Guidelines
    Uranian poetry
    Uses of child pornography?
    Vereniging MARTIJN
    Vern Bullough
    Virtuous Pedophiles
    Voodoo Molestation and US Law
    Wallace Hamilton
    Wallace Hamilton Press
    Walt Whitman
    Walter Breen
    Wayne R. Dynes
    Wilfred Owen
    Wilhelm von Gloeden
    Will McBride
    William A. Percy
    William Armstrong Percy III
    William Percy
    Xavier Von Erck
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:to get [[William Percy|Percy, William A.]]
:to get [[William Percy|Percy, William A.]]
:and the original entry under "W" can stay there. (Redundancy is ''good'' -- you never know exactly what will be most "logical" thing to the user, so give him several options of finding materials.) [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
:and the original entry under "W" can stay there. (Redundancy is ''good'' -- you never know exactly what will be most "logical" thing to the user, so give him several options of finding materials.) [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 02:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Fixed some of the names -- still to do others [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 03:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Fixed the rest. Still to do:
*Incorporate these into the main list
*Add new entries
*TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE THE DISPLAY ''NOT'' VERTICAL, BUT INSTEAD, ''HORIZONTAL'' (if possible) [[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 04:22, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Done.
*I MAYBE SCREWED UP ON THE FOLLOWING - must go back and check them
*A. PercyçWilliam**çWilliam A. Percy
*, Janssen-Verlag|, Janssen-Verlag]]
*Jock Sturges|Peron, Jim
*Dr. Milton Diamond|Milton Diamond, Dr.
[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 05:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
== Automation ==
I could easily write an extension to generate this index through a [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Special pages|special page]]. There could be an option to filter it by [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Page_table#page_is_redirect|page_is_redirect]], [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Page_table#page_len|page_len]], etc. Alternatively, there should be a [[User:USER4Bot]] account set up with the bot flag, to update the index without appearing by default in RecentChanges. Let me know if you'd like any help developing some bot code. I usually use [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Chris G's botclasses|Chris G's botclasses]], even though no one has been maintaining them lately, and the file upload function is broken if I recall correctly (not that it matters, since BoyWiki doesn't accept uploads from non-sysops anyway). Thanks, [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 19:47, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
== @Etenne: Regarding manually adding newer articles to our BoyWiki index ==
Most of the newer articles added recently to BoyWiki by one editor are extremely prejudicial to BoyLovers and the BoyLove "cause".
I hesitate to add them to our new index, as they seem so inappropriate to inclusion on BoyWiki. In fact, I suspect that many of them may even eventually be deleted.
Etenne -- should I go ahead and add them anyway?
*[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 15:21, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
:You could test the waters by doing a few deletion nominations and seeing how they go, before you put in the work of changing the index. In the meantime, you don't really need anyone's permission to edit a page in your own userspace as you see fit. [[User:Lysander|Lysander]] ([[User talk:Lysander|talk]]) 16:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
== You know there is another way of doing this which will update automatically  ==
I'd have to take some time to look into it to see how it's done --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 16:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Special_page#Page_listings
----
{{Special:AllPages/A_B_C}}
:Hmm... I ''think'' that ''that'' is the format I am looking for. The problem is that some of those entries are "junk" (the years and months entries, for example). But there may be a way to remove manually just those.
:I ''like'' the format - horizontal, ''not'' vertical. Please research this more! Maybe ''that'' will mean we can easily have a really useful page after all (and that I have just wasted four days of my life)!
:Oh, BTW - ''four'' columns (or maybe five?) would be much much better ;-)
*[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
:: Unfortunately right now, I am still not at all well. I thought I was getting better but I have had a bad couple of days now. Meaning, I am just not up to doing this right now. For all I know, it could be very simple (to do or to learn) but I just can't seem to be able to bring myself to be able to focus on such a task. --[[User:Etenne|Etenne]] ([[User talk:Etenne|talk]]) 17:15, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
*------------
<blockquote>
Hmm... I still see a problem... If that listing could be exported, then edited, then displayed, if would be useful.
For example: A visitor knows that Adam (somebody) would be nice to read about. Now, was it Adam BEST, or Adam MEST, or Adam ????.
To have to go to each "letter" and search is kind of dumb. "Ah," you say, "He can just search for "Adam" on the page!". Well, what if he's wrong about the name? The ''real'' name he wants is Ardam. He won't ''find'' it.
If you look at the page I have been creating, all the names are listed twice - once, by ''first'' name, and once by ''last'' name. An article titled, "The Red Hen" would be under "The" as ''well'' as under "Red Hen". This is a (more) professional way to index things. The truth is, the "The" should not be listed at all -- the only entry should be "Red Hen, The". But trying to get the wiki software to be so intelligent (and given the other "exceptions to the rule") the only ''real'' solution is manually editing the file. The problem as ''this'' point is that there are so many damned "redirects" which show up as "article titles", there are so many (so-called) "articles" which are irrelevant (years, months, etc.) and so many articles were incorrectly named to begin with. All these things I am fixing in my "index".
I'll stop now... my fingers hurt from typing so much...
**[[User:User4|User4]] ([[User talk:User4|talk]]) 17:45, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
</blockquote>

Latest revision as of 17:45, 28 March 2015

First - there is an error message age the top of my current screen:

Creating User talk:USER4/DRAFT/Main Index of all BoyWiki pages (must be manually updated when necessary)

User account "USER4" is not registered. Please check if you want to create/edit this page.

Seems a problem with the case of the title of this page.

Second - how about if this is manually edited, and then given a link on the main page. I'm sure it would be appreciated by visitors to have an index of all BW pages! User4 (talk) 17:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

OK - thanks Etenne, for fixing the error.
Now -- A question: Who in their right mind could deny that this page would be very useful for visitors to BoyWiki?!?!?
Who every said I was in my right mind? I will go punch them in the nose! Yes, you are doing a good job on this page and when you are finished (ready), I am sure I will be able to find a place to put it:) --Etenne (talk) 21:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I have an idea of how to use it already by making it a template.--Etenne (talk) 21:16, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

BTW - here is a list of (mostly names) that are alphabetized wrong, or should have a cross-reference under a different letter:


For example, "Therapy for pedophilia/pedophiles" should have TWO entries - one under "T" (as it is now) and the other under "P" as in:

  • "Pedophiles, therapy for"

... and then put the original link, like this: [[Therapy for pedophilia/pedophiles|Pedophiles, therapy for]]

User4 (talk) 00:12, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

For names, something similar should be done:

Under the "P" classification:
  • [[William Percy|Percy, William A.]]
to get Percy, William A.
and the original entry under "W" can stay there. (Redundancy is good -- you never know exactly what will be most "logical" thing to the user, so give him several options of finding materials.) User4 (talk) 02:03, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Fixed some of the names -- still to do others User4 (talk) 03:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Fixed the rest. Still to do:

  • Incorporate these into the main list
  • Add new entries
  • TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE THE DISPLAY NOT VERTICAL, BUT INSTEAD, HORIZONTAL (if possible) User4 (talk) 04:22, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Done.

  • I MAYBE SCREWED UP ON THE FOLLOWING - must go back and check them
  • A. PercyçWilliam**çWilliam A. Percy
  • , Janssen-Verlag|, Janssen-Verlag]]
  • Jock Sturges|Peron, Jim
  • Dr. Milton Diamond|Milton Diamond, Dr.

User4 (talk) 05:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Automation

I could easily write an extension to generate this index through a special page. There could be an option to filter it by page_is_redirect, page_len, etc. Alternatively, there should be a User:USER4Bot account set up with the bot flag, to update the index without appearing by default in RecentChanges. Let me know if you'd like any help developing some bot code. I usually use Chris G's botclasses, even though no one has been maintaining them lately, and the file upload function is broken if I recall correctly (not that it matters, since BoyWiki doesn't accept uploads from non-sysops anyway). Thanks, Lysander (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

@Etenne: Regarding manually adding newer articles to our BoyWiki index

Most of the newer articles added recently to BoyWiki by one editor are extremely prejudicial to BoyLovers and the BoyLove "cause".

I hesitate to add them to our new index, as they seem so inappropriate to inclusion on BoyWiki. In fact, I suspect that many of them may even eventually be deleted.

Etenne -- should I go ahead and add them anyway?

You could test the waters by doing a few deletion nominations and seeing how they go, before you put in the work of changing the index. In the meantime, you don't really need anyone's permission to edit a page in your own userspace as you see fit. Lysander (talk) 16:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

You know there is another way of doing this which will update automatically

I'd have to take some time to look into it to see how it's done --Etenne (talk) 16:42, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Special_page#Page_listings

Hmm... I think that that is the format I am looking for. The problem is that some of those entries are "junk" (the years and months entries, for example). But there may be a way to remove manually just those.
I like the format - horizontal, not vertical. Please research this more! Maybe that will mean we can easily have a really useful page after all (and that I have just wasted four days of my life)!
Oh, BTW - four columns (or maybe five?) would be much much better ;-)
Unfortunately right now, I am still not at all well. I thought I was getting better but I have had a bad couple of days now. Meaning, I am just not up to doing this right now. For all I know, it could be very simple (to do or to learn) but I just can't seem to be able to bring myself to be able to focus on such a task. --Etenne (talk) 17:15, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
  • ------------

Hmm... I still see a problem... If that listing could be exported, then edited, then displayed, if would be useful.

For example: A visitor knows that Adam (somebody) would be nice to read about. Now, was it Adam BEST, or Adam MEST, or Adam ????.

To have to go to each "letter" and search is kind of dumb. "Ah," you say, "He can just search for "Adam" on the page!". Well, what if he's wrong about the name? The real name he wants is Ardam. He won't find it.

If you look at the page I have been creating, all the names are listed twice - once, by first name, and once by last name. An article titled, "The Red Hen" would be under "The" as well as under "Red Hen". This is a (more) professional way to index things. The truth is, the "The" should not be listed at all -- the only entry should be "Red Hen, The". But trying to get the wiki software to be so intelligent (and given the other "exceptions to the rule") the only real solution is manually editing the file. The problem as this point is that there are so many damned "redirects" which show up as "article titles", there are so many (so-called) "articles" which are irrelevant (years, months, etc.) and so many articles were incorrectly named to begin with. All these things I am fixing in my "index".

I'll stop now... my fingers hurt from typing so much...

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